What Can You Learn from Sadness

Transcriber: Emanuele Carlini
Reviewer: David DeRuwe

A few years ago, I was lying
on the floor of my shower crying,

My chest ached.

I felt like I couldn’t breathe.

I was glued to the floor.

To be honest, I knew this moment
would happen eventually.

I knew this feeling would come back.

You see, once a month, my sadness
would come in and knock on my door.

Usually, I could tell it,

“Not now, I’m busy,”
or “Could we like reschedule?”

(Laughter)

But this time, my attempts were futile,
for this sadness felt different.

It demanded to be felt.

It felt like as if a man
was putting me down

and asking me, “Tintin,
what are you doing with your life?”

But what if I told you that this
was a pivotal moment in my life?

That … the sadness that I had to feel
was necessary for me to make some changes,

just as it is necessary
for you to feel it so you can too.

I wouldn’t have believed you, believe me.

But before we begin, what is sadness?

Now, according to “EC
Psychology and Psychiatry,”

sadness is a basic and natural emotion,

one that actually is for interactional
and adaptive purposes.

We usually feel it when
we’ve been hurt or something is wrong.

We usually associate it
with tears, frowning, and even fatigue.

We can also realize
that it can be a wake-up call

to really look at how
we’re living our lives

What would happen
if we were open to our sadness,

just as we are about happiness?

What if I told you that listening to it
could actually have its benefits?

What if instead of pushing it away,

we took the time to hear
what it had to say?

You see, listening
to sadness is a process.

It looks very different for everyone.

Some people know how to intuitively do it,

but for me, I had to go to therapy
to learn how to do it.

But how do you listen to it?

My therapist told me,
“Well, let’s figure it out.”

She showed me that, actually,
I had to first close my eyes

and then locate where I felt
any heaviness in my body.

For me, it was usually
in my chest or my abdomen.

And my chest just felt
like someone was sitting on me

and my abdomen felt the same way it does
when I eat too much cheese.

(Laughter)

Then, I would breathe into it

and see what my sadness would reveal.

At this time, my sadness

knew that I needed to have
a conversation with it.

It knew I needed to look at my life:
How I was living it? Who was I with?

because I needed to look upon me
to change how I was feeling.

You see, for many years of my life

I thought you could only be [one of two]
things, either an artist or a doctor.

Never both.

That decision, of becoming a doctor -

I don’t know if it was the amount of years

I had to study to become one

or because of the amount of hours
I needed to dedicate to be one,

I had left a part of me
that gave me happiness,

that gave me wonder.

This revelation, this introspection

was necessary for me to be who I am today.

For just like happiness,
there are benefits to being sad.

There are a lot of studies done
by the psychologist Joseph Forgas,

especially one called
“Don’t Worry, Be Sad!”

that he talks about how sadness
actually can motivate us,

can change the way we perceive things,

and can actually make us be more grateful
for what we already have.

And another study,
done by Indiana University,

on how American football players cried,

saw that those who were more open
to sadness and more open to cry

actually had higher levels of self-esteem
than those who did not.

All in all, we have to, though,
by knowing the sadness,

this temporary sadness is necessary
and can it have its benefits.

We must make this distinction
that it is temporary.

So what happens
when it becomes dysfunctional?

What if it becomes persistent?

It becomes depression.

Depression can look
very different for everyone.

It can change your eating habits;
it can change your sleeping habits.

It can make you want to isolate yourself;

It can make you not find your wonder.

But I ask you,

what would happen if you had
a positive interaction with your sadness?

If you were as open to it
than you were by your happiness?

If you took the time to listen to it?

I realized I didn’t just need it
to be a doctor - I could be both.

I could create mental health awareness

in a way a larger population
could understand.

I could use art as a medium
to talk about these abstract concepts

that on paper are very
difficult to talk about.

I created with photography a mental health
exhibition, with a few of my friends,

and talked about different
mental health disorders,

such as depression,
anxiety, schizophrenia,

and people said anonymously their stories.

The space was created
so we could talk openly

without the stigma about what we all face
in some way, shape, or form,

either healthy or unhealthy.

Through writing,

I was able to find an illustrator
and create a children’s book

because if we have PE,
I think we should also have ME,

a mental education.

We should be able to have
that conversation with our children

about what mental health is,

and if a kid feels like the characters
in the book, they could say:

“Hey, I feel just like them,”

and maybe that could open up a dialogue
you could have never done on your own.

My sadness made me realize
I could be both a doctor and an artist,

that it didn’t matter that
my path looked different,

that it didn’t matter that it wasn’t
the cookie-cutter way to get there,

that I could still have an amazing life
and a life filled with wonder.

Sadness made me realize I wanted to keep
developing myself in this profession,

in a different way.

My son has made me realize that,

by recognizing it and having
a healthier relationship to it,

I could actually be more
empathetic about your pain.

Because by taking care of mine,
I could better take care of yours.

If I could talk to myself that day,

I would tell myself that sadness
is not a scary friend, but a teacher.

What would happen if sadness
knocked on your door?

Would you answer it?

Would you listen?

What would you change?

Now, my teacher is not that scary anymore.

And now when he comes,

he grabs my hand,

I look at him and I ask him:

“What are you going to teach me now?”

Thank you.

(Applause)

抄写员:Emanuele Carlini
审稿人:David DeRuwe

几年前,我躺在
淋浴间的地板上哭泣,

胸口疼痛。

我觉得我无法呼吸。

我被粘在地板上。

老实说,我知道这一刻
最终会发生。

我知道这种感觉会回来。

你看,一个月一次,我的悲伤
会进来敲我的门。

通常,我可以告诉它,

“现在不行,我很忙”
或“我们可以重新安排时间吗?”

(笑声)

但这一次,我的尝试是徒劳的,
因为这种悲伤感觉不同。

它要求被感觉到。

感觉就像一个男人
在贬低我

并问我:“丁丁
,你的生活在做什么?”

但是,如果我告诉你这
是我生命中的关键时刻呢?

那……我必须感受到的悲伤
对我做出一些改变

是必要的,就像你有
必要感受到它一样,你也可以。

我不会相信你,相信我。

但在我们开始之前,什么是悲伤?

现在,根据“EC
心理学和精神病学”,

悲伤是一种基本的自然情绪

,实际上是为了互动
和适应目的。


我们受到伤害或出现问题时,我们通常会感觉到它。

我们通常将它
与眼泪、皱眉甚至疲劳联系在一起。

我们还可以意识到
,真正审视我们的生活可能是一个警钟,

如果我们对悲伤敞开心扉,

就像我们对幸福一样,会发生什么?

如果我告诉你听
它实际上可以有它的好处呢?

如果我们不把它推开,

而是花时间听听
它要说什么,该怎么办?

你看,
听悲伤是一个过程。

每个人看起来都非常不同。

有些人知道如何直观地做到这一点,

但对我来说,我必须去接受治疗
才能学习如何做到这一点。

但是你怎么听呢?

我的治疗师告诉我,
“好吧,让我们弄清楚。”

她告诉我,实际上,
我必须先闭上眼睛

,然后找到
我感觉到身体沉重的地方。

对我来说,它通常
在我的胸部或腹部。

我的胸部感觉
就像有人坐在我身上

,我的腹部感觉就像
我吃太多奶酪时一样。

(笑声)

然后,我会呼吸到它

,看看我的悲伤会揭示什么。

这时,我的悲伤

知道我
需要和它谈谈。

它知道我需要审视我的生活:
我是如何生活的? 我和谁在一起?

因为我需要看着我
来改变我的感受。

你看,在我生命的许多年里,我一直

认为你只能是 [其中之一
],要么是艺术家,要么是医生。

从不两者兼而有之。

成为一名医生的决定——

我不知道是因为

我必须学习多少年才能成为一名医生,

还是因为
我需要投入多少时间才能成为一名医生,

我留下了一部分
给了我幸福

,给了我奇迹。

这种启示,这种内省

对于我成为今天的我来说是必要的。

因为就像幸福一样,
悲伤也有好处。

心理学家约瑟夫·福加斯(Joseph Forgas)做过很多研究,

尤其是一项名为
“别担心,要伤心!”的研究。

他谈到悲伤
实际上可以激励我们,

可以改变我们看待事物的方式,

并且实际上可以让我们
对我们已经拥有的东西更加感激。

印第安纳大学进行的另一项

关于美式足球运动员如何哭泣的研究

发现,那些更
容易承受悲伤和更容易哭泣的人

实际上
比那些没有的人具有更高的自尊水平。

总而言之,我们必须,虽然,
通过了解悲伤,

这种暂时的悲伤是必要的
,它可以有它的好处。

我们必须
区分它是暂时的。

那么
当它变得功能失调时会发生什么?

如果它变得持久怎么办?

它变成了抑郁症。

每个人的抑郁症看起来都非常不同。

它可以改变你的饮食习惯;
它可以改变你的睡眠习惯。

它会让你想孤立自己;

它可以让你找不到你的奇迹。

但我问你,

如果你
与悲伤有积极的互动会发生什么?

如果你对它敞开心扉,而
不是对你的幸福敞开心扉?

如果你花时间听它?

我意识到我不只是需要
它成为一名医生——我可以两者兼而有之。

我可以

以更广泛的人群可以理解的方式建立心理健康意识

我可以用艺术作为一种媒介
来谈论

这些在纸上
很难谈论的抽象概念。

我用摄影创作了一个心理健康
展览,和几个朋友一起

讨论了不同的
心理健康障碍,

比如抑郁症、
焦虑症、精神分裂症

,人们匿名讲述了他们的故事。

这个空间的创建是为了
让我们可以

公开谈论我们所有人
以某种方式、形状或形式所面临的问题,

无论是健康的还是不健康的。

通过写作,

我找到了一位插画师,
并创作了一本儿童读物,

因为如果我们有体育课,
我想我们也应该有 ME,

一种心理教育。

我们应该能够
与我们的孩子

就什么是心理健康进行对话

,如果一个孩子感觉像
书中的角色,他们可以说:

“嘿,我感觉就像他们一样”

,也许这可以打开一个 对话
你永远无法独自完成。

我的悲伤让我意识到
我既可以成为一名医生也可以成为一名艺术家,

我的道路看起来不同

并不重要,这
不是一成不变的到达那里的方式并不重要

,我可以 仍然拥有惊人
的生活和充满奇迹的生活。

悲伤让我意识到我想以不同的方式继续
在这个职业中发展自己

我的儿子让我意识到,

通过认识它并与之
建立更健康的关系,

我实际上可以
对你的痛苦更感同身受。

因为照顾好我的,
我才能更好地照顾你的。

如果那天我能对自己说话,

我会告诉自己,悲伤
不是可怕的朋友,而是老师。

如果悲伤敲门,会发生什么

你会回答吗?

你会听吗?

你会改变什么?

现在,我的老师不再那么可怕了。

现在他来了,

他抓住我的手,

我看着他,问他:

“你现在要教我什么?”

谢谢你。

(掌声)