How one tweet can ruin your life Jon Ronson

In the early days of Twitter,
it was like a place of radical de-shaming.

People would admit
shameful secrets about themselves,

and other people would say,
“Oh my God, I’m exactly the same.”

Voiceless people realized
that they had a voice,

and it was powerful and eloquent.

If a newspaper ran some racist
or homophobic column,

we realized we could do
something about it.

We could get them.

We could hit them with a weapon
that we understood but they didn’t –

a social media shaming.

Advertisers would withdraw
their advertising.

When powerful people
misused their privilege,

we were going to get them.

This was like the
democratization of justice.

Hierarchies were being leveled out.

We were going to do things better.

Soon after that, a disgraced
pop science writer called Jonah Lehrer –

he’d been caught plagiarizing
and faking quotes,

and he was drenched in shame
and regret, he told me.

And he had the opportunity

to publicly apologize
at a foundation lunch.

This was going to be the most
important speech of his life.

Maybe it would win him some salvation.

He knew before he arrived

that the foundation was going to be
live-streaming his event,

but what he didn’t know
until he turned up,

was that they’d erected a giant screen
Twitter feed right next to his head.

(Laughter)

Another one in a monitor screen
in his eye line.

I don’t think the foundation did this
because they were monstrous.

I think they were clueless:
I think this was a unique moment

when the beautiful naivety of Twitter

was hitting the increasingly
horrific reality.

And here were some of the Tweets
that were cascading into his eye line,

as he was trying to apologize:

“Jonah Lehrer, boring us
into forgiving him.”

(Laughter)

And, “Jonah Lehrer has not proven
that he is capable of feeling shame.”

That one must have been written
by the best psychiatrist ever,

to know that about such
a tiny figure behind a lectern.

And, “Jonah Lehrer is just
a frigging sociopath.”

That last word is a very human thing
to do, to dehumanize the people we hurt.

It’s because we want to destroy people
but not feel bad about it.

Imagine if this was an actual court,

and the accused was in the dark,
begging for another chance,

and the jury was yelling out,

“Bored! Sociopath!”

(Laughter)

You know, when we watch
courtroom dramas, we tend to identify

with the kindhearted defense attorney,

but give us the power,
and we become like hanging judges.

Power shifts fast.

We were getting Jonah because he was
perceived to have misused his privilege,

but Jonah was on the floor then,
and we were still kicking,

and congratulating ourselves
for punching up.

And it began to feel weird and empty
when there wasn’t a powerful person

who had misused their privilege
that we could get.

A day without a shaming
began to feel like a day

picking fingernails and treading water.

Let me tell you a story.

It’s about a woman called Justine Sacco.

She was a PR woman from New York
with 170 Twitter followers,

and she’d Tweet little
acerbic jokes to them,

like this one on a plane
from New York to London:

[Weird German Dude: You’re in first class.
It’s 2014. Get some deodorant."

-Inner monologue as inhale BO.
Thank god for pharmaceuticals.]

So Justine chuckled to herself,
and pressed send, and got no replies,

and felt that sad feeling that we all feel

when the Internet doesn’t
congratulate us for being funny.

(Laughter)

Black silence when the Internet
doesn’t talk back.

And then she got to Heathrow,
and she had a little time to spare

before her final leg, so she thought up
another funny little acerbic joke:

[Going to Africa. Hope I don’t get AIDS.
Just kidding. I’m white!]

And she chuckled to herself, pressed send,
got on the plane, got no replies,

turned off her phone, fell asleep,

woke up 11 hours later,

turned on her phone while the plane
was taxiing on the runway,

and straightaway there was
a message from somebody

that she hadn’t spoken
to since high school,

that said, “I am so sorry
to see what’s happening to you.”

And then another message
from a best friend,

“You need to call me right now.

You are the worldwide number one
trending topic on Twitter.”

(Laughter)

What had happened is that one
of her 170 followers had sent the Tweet

to a Gawker journalist, and he
retweeted it to his 15,000 followers:

[And now, a funny holiday joke
from IAC’s PR boss]

And then it was like a bolt of lightning.

A few weeks later, I talked
to the Gawker journalist.

I emailed him and asked him how it felt,
and he said, “It felt delicious.”

And then he said,
“But I’m sure she’s fine.”

But she wasn’t fine,
because while she slept,

Twitter took control of her life
and dismantled it piece by piece.

First there were the philanthropists:

[If @JustineSacco’s unfortunate
words … bother you,

join me in supporting
@CARE’s work in Africa.]

[In light of … disgusting,
racist tweet, I’m donating to @care today]

Then came the beyond horrified:

[… no words for that horribly disgusting
racist as fuck tweet from Justine Sacco.

I am beyond horrified.]

Was anybody on Twitter
that night? A few of you.

Did Justine’s joke overwhelm
your Twitter feed the way it did mine?

It did mine, and I thought
what everybody thought that night,

which was, “Wow, somebody’s screwed!

Somebody’s life is about to get terrible!”

And I sat up in my bed,

and I put the pillow behind my head,

and then I thought, I’m not entirely sure
that joke was intended to be racist.

Maybe instead of gleefully
flaunting her privilege,

she was mocking the gleeful
flaunting of privilege.

There’s a comedy tradition of this,

like South Park or Colbert
or Randy Newman.

Maybe Justine Sacco’s crime was not being
as good at it as Randy Newman.

In fact, when I met Justine
a couple of weeks later in a bar,

she was just crushed,

and I asked her to explain the joke,

and she said, “Living in America
puts us in a bit of a bubble

when it comes to what is going on
in the Third World.

I was making of fun of that bubble.”

You know, another woman on Twitter that
night, a New Statesman writer Helen Lewis,

she reviewed my book on public shaming
and wrote that she Tweeted that night,

“I’m not sure that her joke
was intended to be racist,”

and she said straightaway she got
a fury of Tweets saying,

“Well, you’re just
a privileged bitch, too.”

And so to her shame, she wrote,

she shut up and watched
as Justine’s life got torn apart.

It started to get darker:

[Everyone go report
this cunt @JustineSacco]

Then came the calls for her to be fired.

[Good luck with the job hunt
in the new year. #GettingFired]

Thousands of people around the world

decided it was their duty
to get her fired.

[@JustineSacco last tweet
of your career. #SorryNotSorry

Corporations got involved,
hoping to sell their products

on the back of Justine’s annihilation:

[Next time you plan to tweet something
stupid before you take off,

make sure you are getting
on a @Gogo flight!]

(Laughter)

A lot of companies were making
good money that night.

You know, Justine’s name was normally
Googled 40 times a month.

That month, between December the 20th
and the end of December,

her name was Googled 1,220,000 times.

And one Internet economist told me
that that meant that Google made

somewhere between 120,000 dollars
and 468,000 dollars

from Justine’s annihilation, whereas
those of us doing the actual shaming –

we got nothing.

(Laughter)

We were like unpaid
shaming interns for Google.

(Laughter)

And then came the trolls:

[I’m actually kind of hoping
Justine Sacco gets aids? lol]

Somebody else on that wrote,

“Somebody HIV-positive should rape
this bitch and then we’ll find out

if her skin color protects her from AIDS.”

And that person got a free pass.

Nobody went after that person.

We were all so excited
about destroying Justine,

and our shaming brains
are so simple-minded,

that we couldn’t also handle
destroying somebody

who was inappropriately
destroying Justine.

Justine was really uniting
a lot of disparate groups that night,

from philanthropists to “rape the bitch.”

[@JustineSacco I hope you get fired!
You demented bitch…

Just let the world know you’re planning
to ride bare back while in Africa.]

Women always have it worse than men.

When a man gets shamed, it’s,
“I’m going to get you fired.”

When a woman gets shamed, it’s,

“I’m going to get you fired
and raped and cut out your uterus.”

And then Justine’s employers got involved:

[IAC on @JustineSacco tweet: This is an
outrageous, offensive comment.

Employee in question currently
unreachable on an intl flight.]

And that’s when the anger
turned to excitement:

[All I want for Christmas is to see
@JustineSacco’s face when her plane lands

and she checks
her inbox/voicemail. #fired]

[Oh man, @justinesacco
is going to have the most painful

phone-turning-on moment ever
when her plane lands.]

[We are about to watch this @JustineSacco
bitch get fired. In REAL time.

Before she even KNOWS
she’s getting fired.]

What we had was
a delightful narrative arc.

We knew something that Justine didn’t.

Can you think of anything
less judicial than this?

Justine was asleep on a plane
and unable to explain herself,

and her inability was
a huge part of the hilarity.

On Twitter that night, we were
like toddlers crawling towards a gun.

Somebody worked out exactly
which plane she was on, so they linked

to a flight tracker website.

[British Airways Flight 43
On-time - arrives in 1 hour 34 minutes]

A hashtag began trending worldwide:

hasJustineLandedYet?

[It is kinda wild
to see someone self-destruct

without them even being aware of it.
#hasJustineLandedYet]

[Seriously. I just want to go home
to go to bed, but everyone at the bar

is SO into #HasJustineLandedYet.
Can’t look away. Can’t leave.]

[#HasJustineLandedYet may be the best
thing to happen to my Friday night.]

[Is no one in Cape Town going
to the airport to tweet her arrival?

Come on, twitter! I’d like pictures]

And guess what? Yes there was.

[@JustineSacco HAS in fact landed
at Cape Town international.

And if you want to know
what it looks like to discover

that you’ve just been torn to shreds
because of a misconstrued liberal joke,

not by trolls, but by nice people like us,

this is what it looks like:

[… She’s decided to wear
sunnies as a disguise.]

So why did we do it?

I think some people were genuinely upset,

but I think for other people,

it’s because Twitter is basically
a mutual approval machine.

We surround ourselves with people
who feel the same way we do,

and we approve each other,

and that’s a really good feeling.

And if somebody gets in the way,
we screen them out.

And do you know what
that’s the opposite of?

It’s the opposite of democracy.

We wanted to show that we cared
about people dying of AIDS in Africa.

Our desire to be seen to be compassionate
is what led us to commit

this profoundly un-compassionate act.

As Meghan O’Gieblyn wrote
in the Boston Review,

“This isn’t social justice.
It’s a cathartic alternative.”

For the past three years,

I’ve been going around the world
meeting people like Justine Sacco –

and believe me, there’s a lot
of people like Justine Sacco.

There’s more every day.

And we want to think they’re fine,
but they’re not fine.

The people I met were mangled.

They talked to me about depression,

and anxiety and insomnia
and suicidal thoughts.

One woman I talked to,
who also told a joke that landed badly,

she stayed home for a year and a half.

Before that, she worked with adults
with learning difficulties,

and was apparently really good at her job.

Justine was fired, of course,
because social media demanded it.

But it was worse than that.

She was losing herself.

She was waking up in the middle
of the night, forgetting who she was.

She was got because she was perceived
to have misused her privilege.

And of course, that’s a much better thing
to get people for than the things

we used to get people for,
like having children out of wedlock.

But the phrase “misuse of privilege”
is becoming a free pass

to tear apart pretty much
anybody we choose to.

It’s becoming a devalued term,

and it’s making us lose
our capacity for empathy

and for distinguishing between serious
and unserious transgressions.

Justine had 170 Twitter followers,
and so to make it work,

she had to be fictionalized.

Word got around that she was the daughter
the mining billionaire Desmond Sacco.

[Let us not be fooled by #JustineSacco
her father is a SA mining billionaire.

She’s not sorry.
And neither is her father.]

I thought that was true about Justine,

until I met her at a bar, and I asked her
about her billionaire father,

and she said, “My father sells carpets.”

And I think back on
the early days of Twitter,

when people would admit
shameful secrets about themselves,

and other people would say,
“Oh my God, I’m exactly the same.”

These days, the hunt is on
for people’s shameful secrets.

You can lead a good, ethical life,

but some bad phraseology in a Tweet
can overwhelm it all,

become a clue to your secret inner evil.

Maybe there’s two types
of people in the world:

those people who favor
humans over ideology,

and those people who favor
ideology over humans.

I favor humans over ideology,

but right now, the ideologues are winning,

and they’re creating a stage
for constant artificial high dramas

where everybody’s either
a magnificent hero

or a sickening villain,

even though we know that’s not true
about our fellow humans.

What’s true is that
we are clever and stupid;

what’s true is that we’re grey areas.

The great thing about social media
was how it gave a voice

to voiceless people,

but we’re now creating
a surveillance society,

where the smartest way to survive
is to go back to being voiceless.

Let’s not do that.

Thank you.

(Applause)

Bruno Giussani: Thank you, Jon.

Jon Ronson: Thanks, Bruno.

BG: Don’t go away.

What strikes me about Justine’s story

is also the fact that if you
Google her name today,

this story covers the first
100 pages of Google results –

there is nothing else about her.

In your book, you mention another story

of another victim who actually got
taken on by a reputation management firm,

and by creating blogs and posting nice,
innocuous stories about her love for cats

and holidays and stuff,
managed to get the story

off the first couple pages of Google
results, but it didn’t last long.

A couple of weeks later, they started
creeping back up to the top result.

Is this a totally lost battle?

Jon Ronson: You know, I think
the very best thing we can do,

if you see a kind of unfair
or an ambiguous shaming,

is to speak up, because I think
the worst thing that happened to Justine

was that nobody supported her –
like, everyone was against her,

and that is profoundly traumatizing,

to be told by tens of thousands of people
that you need to get out.

But if a shaming happens and there’s
a babble of voices, like in a democracy,

where people are discussing it,
I think that’s much less damaging.

So I think that’s the way forward,

but it’s hard, because if you do
stand up for somebody,

it’s incredibly unpleasant.

BG: So let’s talk about your experience,

because you stood up by writing this book.

By the way, it’s mandatory
reading for everybody, okay?

You stood up because the book
actually puts the spotlight on shamers.

And I assume you didn’t only
have friendly reactions on Twitter.

JR: It didn’t go down that well
with some people.

(Laughter)

I mean, you don’t want
to just concentrate –

because lots of people understood,
and were really nice about the book.

But yeah, for 30 years I’ve been writing
stories about abuses of power,

and when I say the powerful people
over there in the military,

or in the pharmaceutical industry,
everybody applauds me.

As soon as I say, “We are the powerful
people abusing our power now,”

I get people saying,
“Well you must be a racist too.”

BG: So the other night –
yesterday – we were at dinner,

and there were two discussions going on.

On one side you were talking
with people around the table –

and that was a nice,
constructive discussion.

On the other, every time
you turned to your phone,

there is this deluge of insults.

JR: Yeah. This happened last night.
We had like a TED dinner last night.

We were chatting and it was lovely
and nice, and I decided to check Twitter.

Somebody said, “You are
a white supremacist.”

And then I went back and had
a nice conversation with somebody,

and then I went back to Twitter,

somebody said my very existence
made the world a worse place.

My friend Adam Curtis says

that maybe the Internet is like
a John Carpenter movie from the 1980s,

when eventually everyone
will start screaming at each other

and shooting each other,
and then eventually everybody

would flee to somewhere safer,

and I’m starting to think of that
as a really nice option.

BG: Jon, thank you.
JR: Thank you, Bruno.

(Applause)

在 Twitter 的早期,
它就像一个彻底去羞辱的地方。

人们会承认自己的
可耻秘密,

而其他人会说:
“天哪,我完全一样。”

无声的人
意识到他们有一个声音

,它是强大而雄辩的。

如果一家报纸刊登了一些种族主义
或恐同的专栏,

我们意识到我们可以
做点什么。

我们可以得到它们。

我们可以用我们理解的武器攻击他们,
但他们没有

——社交媒体的羞辱。

广告商将撤回
他们的广告。

当有权势的人
滥用他们的特权时,

我们会得到他们。

这就像
司法的民主化。

等级制度正在被拉平。

我们打算把事情做得更好。

不久之后,一位名誉扫地的
科普作家乔纳·莱勒(Jonah Lehrer)告诉

我,他被抓到抄袭
和伪造名言,

感到羞愧
和后悔。

他有机会

在基金会的午餐会上公开道歉。

这将
是他一生中最重要的演讲。

也许这会给他带来一些救赎。

在他到达之前,他就

知道基金会将对
他的活动进行现场直播,


直到他出现时他

才知道,他们在他的脑袋旁边竖起了一个巨大的屏幕
Twitter 提要。

(笑声)

另一个在他的视线中的监视器屏幕上

我不认为基金会这样做是
因为它们太可怕了。

我认为他们一无所知:
我认为这是一个独特的

时刻,Twitter 的美丽天真

正在打击日益
可怕的现实。

当他试图道歉时,一些推
文涌入他的视线

“Jonah Lehrer,让我们厌烦
了原谅他。”

(笑声)

而且,“Jonah Lehrer 还没有
证明他有能力感到羞耻。”

那一定是
有史以来最好的精神病医生写的,

要知道
讲台后面这么小的人物。

而且,“Jonah Lehrer 只是
一个该死的反社会者。”

最后一句话是一件非常人性化的
事情,让我们伤害的人失去人性。

这是因为我们想摧毁人,
但又不会为此感到难过。

想象一下,如果这是一个真正的法庭

,被告在黑暗中,
乞求另一个机会

,陪审团大喊:

“无聊!反社会!”

(笑声)

你知道,当我们看
法庭剧的时候,我们倾向于

认同善良的辩护律师,

但是给我们权力
,我们就变得像绞刑法官一样。

权力转移迅速。

我们得到乔纳是因为他被
认为滥用了他的特权,

但乔纳当时在场上
,我们仍在踢球,

并祝贺
自己打了起来。

当没有一个有权

有势的人滥用
我们可以获得的特权时,它开始感到奇怪和空虚。

没有羞耻的一天
开始感觉就像是

拔指甲和踩水的一天。

让我告诉你一个故事。

这是关于一个叫贾斯汀·萨科的女人。

她是一位来自纽约的公关女性,在
推特上有 170 名粉丝

,她会在推特上
给他们发一些尖刻的笑话,

比如在
从纽约飞往伦敦的飞机上:

[奇怪的德国人:你在头等舱。
现在是 2014 年。去点除臭剂吧。” -

吸入 BO 的内心独白。
感谢上帝的药物。]

所以贾斯汀自言自语地笑了笑
,按下了发送键,但没有得到任何回复,

并感受到了当互联网没有时我们都感受到的那种悲伤的感觉


恭喜我们很有趣。

(笑声)

当互联网没有回话时黑色沉默

。然后她到了希思罗机场,

在最后一站之前她有一点空闲时间,所以她想了
另一个有趣的尖刻笑话 :

[去非洲。希望我不会感染艾滋病。开个
玩笑。我是白人!

] 然后她对自己笑了笑,按下发送键,
上了飞机,没有任何回复,

关掉手机,睡着了,

醒来了 11 小时后,

当飞机在跑道上滑行时打开她的手机,她
马上

就收到了一个自高中以来

就没有和她说过话的人发来的信息

,上面写着:“我很
抱歉看到发生了什么事 你。

”然后
是一个好朋友的另一条信息,

“你现在需要给我打电话。

你是推特上全球排名第一的
热门话题。”

(笑声)

她的 170 名追随者

中的一个将这条推文发给了 Gawker 的一名记者,他
将这条推文转发给了他的 15,000 名追随者:

[现在,一个有趣的假期
IAC 公关老板的笑话

] 然后就像一道闪电

。几周后,我
与 Gawker 记者交谈。

我给他发了电子邮件,问他感觉如何
,他说,“感觉很好吃。

”然后 他说,
“但我确信她很好。”

但她并没有很好,
因为当她睡觉时,

推特控制了她的生活,
并把它一点一点地拆除。

首先是慈善家:

[如果@JustineSacco 的不幸的
话 …打扰你了,

和我一起支持
@CARE在非洲的工作。]

[鉴于…令人作呕的
种族主义推文,我今天要向@care捐款]

然后惊恐万分:

[…无话可说 对于那个可怕的
种族主义者,就像贾斯汀·萨科的他妈的推文。

我吓坏了。]那天晚上

有人在推特
上吗?你们中的一些人。

贾斯蒂 ne 的笑话会像我的笑话一样淹没
您的 Twitter 提要吗?

它确实是我的,我
想那天晚上每个人的想法,

那就是,“哇,有人搞砸了!

有人的生活即将变得糟糕!”

我从床上坐起来,

把枕头放在脑后,

然后我想,我不完全确定
这个玩笑是为了种族主义。

也许她并没有兴高采烈地
炫耀她的特权,而是

嘲笑她兴高采烈地
炫耀自己的特权。

有这样的喜剧传统,

比如南方公园、科尔伯特
或兰迪纽曼。

也许贾斯汀·萨科的罪行
不如兰迪·纽曼擅长。

事实上,几周后,当我
在酒吧遇到贾斯汀时,

她简直被压垮了

,我让她解释这个笑话

,她说,“生活在美国
让我们

在谈到 “第三世界正在发生什么

我在取笑那个泡沫。”

你知道,那天晚上推特上的另一位女性
,一位新政治家作家海伦刘易斯,

她回顾了我关于公开羞辱的书,
并写道她那天晚上在推特上写道,

“我不确定她的笑话
是不是故意的,

”她 她直截了当地
说,她对推文说:

“好吧,你也只是
一个有特权的婊子。”

令她感到羞耻的是,她写道,

她闭嘴,
看着贾斯汀的生活被撕裂。

天色开始变暗:

[每个人都去举报
这个婊子@JustineSacco]

然后有人要求解雇她。


祝新的一年求职顺利。 #GettingFired]

全世界成千上万的人

认为解雇她是他们的
责任。

[
@JustineSacco 你职业生涯的最后一条推文。 #SorryNotSorry

Corporations 参与进来,
希望

在 Justine 被歼灭后出售他们的产品:

[下次你打算
在起飞前发一些愚蠢的推文时,请确保你乘坐的

是 @Gogo 航班!]

(笑声

)很多 公司
那天晚上赚了很多钱。

你知道,贾斯汀的名字通常
每月被谷歌搜索 40 次。

那个月,从 12 月 20 日到
12 月底,

她的名字被谷歌搜索了 1,220,000 次。

一位互联网经济学家告诉我
,这意味着谷歌从贾斯汀的歼灭中赚

了 120,000
到 468,000 美元

,而
我们这些真正感到羞耻的人——

我们一无所获。

(笑声)

我们就像
谷歌的无薪实习生。

(笑声

) 然后来了巨魔:

[我其实有点希望
贾斯汀·萨科得艾滋病? 大声笑]

其他人在上面写道,

“艾滋病毒阳性的人应该强奸
这个婊子,然后我们会

发现她的肤色是否能保护她免受艾滋病的侵害。”

那个人得到了免费通行证。

没有人去追那个人。

我们都
对摧毁贾斯汀感到非常兴奋,

而我们羞耻的大脑
是如此简单,

以至于我们无法同时
摧毁一个

不恰当地
摧毁贾斯汀的人。

那天晚上,贾斯汀真的联合了许多不同的团体,

从慈善家到“强奸婊子”。

[@JustineSacco 我希望你被解雇!
你这个发疯的婊子……

只要让全世界知道你
打算在非洲赤身骑行。]

女人总是比男人更糟糕。

当一个男人感到羞耻时,它是,
“我要让你被解雇。”

当一个女人感到羞耻时,它是,

“我会让你被解雇
和强奸,并切掉你的子宫。”

然后贾斯汀的雇主参与进来:

[IAC 在@JustineSacco 推文上:这是一个
无耻的、冒犯性的评论。

有问题的员工目前
在国际航班上无法联系到。

] 就在那时,愤怒
变成了兴奋:

[圣诞节我只想看到
@JustineSacco 的脸,当她的飞机降落

并查看
她的收件箱/语音信箱时。 #fired]

[哦,伙计,@justinesacco 在她的飞机降落
时将经历最痛苦的

手机开机时刻
。]

[我们即将看到这个 @JustineSacco
婊子被解雇。 实时。

在她甚至不知道
她被解雇之前。]

我们所拥有的是
一个令人愉快的叙事弧。

我们知道贾斯汀不知道的事情。

你能
想到比这更不公平的吗?

贾斯汀在飞机上睡着了
,无法解释自己

,她的无能
是欢闹的很大一部分。

那天晚上在推特上,我们
就像蹒跚学步的孩子爬向一把枪。

有人确切地知道
她在哪架飞机上,所以他们链接

到了一个航班跟踪网站。

[英国航空公司 43 号航班
准点 - 1 小时 34 分钟后到达]

一个标签开始在全球流行:

hasJustineLandedYet?

[
看到有人

在他们不知道的情况下自毁,这有点疯狂。
#hasJustineLandedYet]

[说真的。 我
只想回家睡觉,但酒吧里的每个人都

非常喜欢#HasJustineLandedYet。
无法移开视线。 不能离开。]

[#HasJustineLandedYet 可能是
我星期五晚上发生的最好的事情。]

[开普敦没有人
去机场发推特她的到来吗?

来吧,推特! 我想要图片]

你猜怎么着? 是的。

[@JustineSacco 实际上已经降落
在开普敦国际机场。

而且,如果您想知道

发现自己只是
因为一个被误解的自由主义笑话而被撕成碎片的

样子,而不是巨魔,而是像我们这样的好人,

这就是它的样子:

[… 她决定戴上
太阳镜作为伪装。]

那么我们为什么要这样做呢?

我认为有些人真的很沮丧,

但我认为对其他人来说,

这是因为 Twitter 基本上
是一个相互认可的机器。

我们周围都是和我们有
同样感觉的人

,我们互相认可

,这是一种非常好的感觉。

如果有人挡道,
我们会将他们屏蔽掉。

你知道
它的反面是什么吗?

这是民主的反面。

我们想表明我们
关心非洲死于艾滋病的人们。

我们希望被视为富有同情心的愿望
导致我们做出

这种极其没有同情心的行为。

正如 Meghan O’Gieblyn
在波士顿评论中所写,

“这不是社会正义。
这是一种宣泄的选择。”

在过去的三年里,

我一直在世界各地
遇到像贾斯汀·萨科这样的人

——相信我,有很多
像贾斯汀·萨科这样的人。

每天都有更多。

我们想认为他们很好,
但他们并不好。

我遇到的人都被毁了。

他们跟我谈论抑郁

、焦虑、失眠
和自杀念头。

我和一位女士交谈过,
她还讲了一个很糟糕的笑话,

她在家里待了一年半。

在此之前,她与
有学习困难的成年人一起工作

,显然她的工作非常出色。

贾斯汀当然被解雇了,
因为社交媒体要求这样做。

但情况比那更糟。

她正在迷失自我。

她半夜醒来
,忘记了自己是谁。

她被抓住了,因为她被
认为滥用了她的特权。

当然,这
比我们过去吸引人的事情要好得多


比如非婚生子。

但是“滥用特权”这个词
正在成为一种免费的通行证

,几乎可以撕裂
我们选择的任何人。

它正在成为一个贬值的术语

,它使我们失去
了同情

和区分严重
和不严重违法行为的能力。

贾斯汀有 170 个推特粉丝
,所以为了让它发挥作用,

她必须被虚构化。

有消息说她是
矿业亿万富翁德斯蒙德·萨科的女儿。

[让我们不要被#JustineSacco 愚弄,
她的父亲是一名南非矿业亿万富翁。

她不后悔。
她的父亲也不是。]

我以为贾斯汀是真的,

直到我在酒吧遇到她,我问她
关于她亿万富翁父亲的事

,她说,“我父亲卖地毯。”

我回
想起 Twitter 的早期

,人们会承认自己的
可耻秘密,

而其他人会说,
“天哪,我完全一样。”

这些天来,
人们正在寻找人们可耻的秘密。

你可以过上美好的、合乎道德的生活,

但推文中的一些糟糕的措辞
可能会压倒一切,

成为你内心邪恶的线索。

也许世界上有
两种人:一种

是偏爱
人类而不是意识形态

的人,一种是偏爱
意识形态而不是人类的人。

我偏爱人类而不是意识形态,

但现在,理论家正在获胜

,他们正在为不断人为的高调戏剧创造一个舞台,在这个舞台上

,每个人要么
是伟大的英雄,

要么是令人作呕的恶棍,

尽管我们知道这
对我们的人类同胞来说是不正确的。

真实的是,
我们既聪明又愚蠢;

事实是我们处于灰色地带。

社交媒体
的伟大之处在于它如何

让无声的人发出声音,

但我们现在正在创建
一个监视社会,

其中最聪明的生存方式
就是回到无声的状态。

我们不要那样做。

谢谢你。

(掌声)

Bruno Giussani: 谢谢乔恩。

乔恩·朗森:谢谢,布鲁诺。

BG:别走开。

贾斯汀的故事让我印象深刻

的还有这样一个事实,如果你
今天用谷歌搜索她的名字,

这个故事涵盖了
谷歌搜索结果的前 100 页——

关于她的一切都没有。

在你的书中,你提到

了另一个受害者的故事,她实际上
被一家声誉管理公司接管了

,通过创建博客并发布
关于她对猫

、假期和其他东西的爱的美好、无害的故事,
设法让故事

从一开始就消失了 几页谷歌
搜索结果,但并没有持续多久。

几周后,他们开始
爬回最高成绩。

这是一场完全失败的战斗吗?

乔恩·朗森:你知道,我
认为我们能做的最好的事情,

如果你看到一种不公平
或模棱两可的羞辱,

就是大声说出来,因为我
认为发生在贾斯汀身上的最糟糕的事情

是没有人支持她——
就像,每个人都反对她

,这是非常令人痛苦的

,被成千上万的人
告诉你需要离开。

但是,如果发生了羞辱,并且出现
了喋喋不休的声音,就像在一个民主国家,

人们正在讨论它,
我认为那破坏性要小得多。

所以我认为这是前进的方向,

但这很难,因为如果你真的
为某人挺身而出,

那会令人难以置信的不愉快。

BG:所以让我们谈谈你的经历,

因为你写这本书是站出来的。

顺便说一句,这
是每个人的必读,好吗?

你站起来是因为这本书
实际上把焦点放在了羞辱者身上。

而且我认为您不仅
在 Twitter 上得到了友好的反应。

JR:
有些人的情况并不好。

(笑声)

我的意思是,你
不想只集中注意力——

因为很多人都理解
这本书,而且对这本书非常满意。

但是,是的,30 年来我一直在写
关于滥用权力的故事

,当我说
军队

或制药行业的有权势的人时,
每个人都为我鼓掌。

一旦我说,“我们现在是
滥用权力的有权势的人,”

我就会听到人们说,
“好吧,你一定也是个种族主义者。”

BG:所以那天晚上——
昨天——我们在吃晚饭

,有两个讨论正在进行。

一方面,你正在
与桌子周围的人交谈

——这是一次很好的、
建设性的讨论。

另一方面,每次
你打开手机时,

都会有大量的侮辱。

JR:是的。 这发生在昨晚。
昨晚我们吃了一顿 TED 晚宴。

我们正在聊天,这很
可爱,我决定查看推特。

有人说,“你
是白人至上主义者。”

然后我回去
和某人进行了愉快的交谈,

然后我回到推特,

有人说我的存在
让世界变得更糟。

我的朋友亚当柯蒂斯说

,也许互联网
就像 1980 年代约翰卡彭特的电影

,最终每个人
都会开始互相尖叫并

互相射击,
然后最终每个人

都会逃到更安全的地方

,我开始思考 这
是一个非常好的选择。

BG:乔恩,谢谢。
JR:谢谢你,布鲁诺。

(掌声)