How we experience awe and why it matters Beau Lotto and Cirque du Soleil

Before I get started:

I’m really excited to be here

to just actually watch
what’s going to happen, from here.

So with that said,
we’re going to start with:

What is one of our greatest needs,

one of our greatest needs for our brain?

And instead of telling you,
I want to show you.

In fact, I want you to feel it.

There’s a lot I want you to feel
in the next 14 minutes.

So, if we could all stand up.

We’re all going to conduct
a piece of Strauss together.

Alright? And you all know it.

Alright. Are you ready?

Audience: Yeah!

Beau Lotto: Alright.
Ready, one, two, three!

It’s just the end.

(Music: Richard Strauss
“Also Sprach Zarathustra”)

Right?

You know where it’s going.

(Music)

Oh, it’s coming!

(Music stops abruptly)

Oh!

(Laughter)

Right?

Collective coitus interruptus.

OK, you can all sit down.

(Laughter)

We have a fundamental need for closure.

(Laughter)

We love closure.

(Applause)

I was told the story that Mozart,
just before he’d go to bed,

he’d go to the piano and go,

“da-da-da-da-da.”

His father, who was already in bed,
would think, “Argh.”

He’d have to get up
and hit the final note to the chord

before he could go back to sleep.

(Laughter)

So the need for closure
leads us to thinking about:

What is our greatest fear?

Think – what is our greatest fear
growing up, even now?

And it’s the fear of the dark.

We hate uncertainty.

We hate to not know.

We hate it.

Think about horror films.

Horror films are always shot in the dark,

in the forest,

at night,

in the depths of the sea,

the blackness of space.

And the reason is because
dying was easy during evolution.

If you weren’t sure that was a predator,

it was too late.

Your brain evolved to predict.

And if you couldn’t predict, you died.

And the way your brain predicts
is by encoding the bias and assumptions

that were useful in the past.

But those assumptions
just don’t stay inside your brain.

You project them out into the world.

There is no bird there.

You’re projecting the meaning
onto the screen.

Everything I’m saying to you right now
is literally meaningless.

(Laughter)

You’re creating the meaning
and projecting it onto me.

And what’s true for objects
is true for other people.

While you can measure
their “what” and their “when,”

you can never measure their “why.”

So we color other people.

We project a meaning onto them
based on our biases and our experience.

Which is why the best of design is almost
always about decreasing uncertainty.

So when we step into uncertainty,

our bodies respond
physiologically and mentally.

Your immune system
will start deteriorating.

Your brain cells wither and even die.

Your creativity and intelligence decrease.

We often go from fear to anger,
almost too often.

Why? Because fear is a state of certainty.

You become morally judgmental.

You become an extreme version of yourself.

If you’re a conservative,
you become more conservative.

If you’re a liberal,
you become more liberal.

Because you go to a place of familiarity.

The problem is that the world changes.

And we have to adapt or die.

And if you want to shift from A to B,

the first step is not B.

The first step is to go from A to not A –

to let go of your bias and assumptions;

to step into the very place
that our brain evolved to avoid;

to step into the place of the unknown.

But it’s so essential
that we go to this place

that our brain gave us a solution.

Evolution gave us a solution.

And it’s possibly one of the most profound
perceptual experiences.

And it’s the experience of awe.

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(Cheers)

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Beau Lotto: Ah, how wonderful, right?

So right now, you’re probably all feeling,
at some level or another, awe.

Right?

So what’s happening
inside your brain right now?

And for thousands of years,

we’ve been thinking and writing
and experiencing awe,

and we know so little about it.

And so to try to understand
what is it and what does it do,

my Lab of Misfits had just
the wonderful opportunity and the pleasure

to work with who are some of the greatest
creators of awe that we know:

the writers, the creators,
the directors, the accountants,

the people who are Cirque Du Soleil.

And so we went to Las Vegas,

and we recorded
the brain activity of people

while they’re watching the performance,

over 10 performances of “O,”

which is iconic Cirque performance.

And we also measured
the behavior before the performance,

as well as a different group
after the performance.

And so we had over 200 people involved.

So what is awe?

What is happening
inside your brain right now?

It’s a brain state. OK?

The front part of your brain,
the prefrontal cortex,

which is responsible
for your executive function,

your attentional control,

is now being downregulated.

The part of your brain called
the DMN, default mode network,

which is the interaction
between multiple areas in your brain,

which is active during, sort of, ideation,

creative thinking in terms
of divergent thinking and daydreaming,

is now being upregulated.

And right about now,

the activity in your
prefrontal cortex is changing.

It’s becoming asymmetrical
in its activity,

biased towards the right,

which is highly correlated
when people step forward into the world,

as opposed to step back.

In fact, the activity across the brains
of all these people was so correlated

that we’re able to train
an artificial neural network

to predict whether or not
people are experiencing awe

to an accuracy of 75 percent on average,

with a maximum of 83 percent.

So what does this brain state do?

Well, others have demonstrated,

for instance, Professors
Haidt and Keltner,

have told us that people feel small
but connected to the world.

And their prosocial behavior increases,

because they feel an increased
affinity towards others.

And we’ve also shown in this study

that people have less need
for cognitive control.

They’re more comfortable with uncertainty
without having closure.

And their appetite
for risk also increases.

They actually seek risk,
and they are better able at taking it.

And something that
was really quite profound

is that when we asked people,

“Are you someone who has a propensity
to experience awe?”

They were more likely
to give a positive response

after the performance
than they were [before].

They literally redefined themselves
and their history.

So, awe is possibly the perception
that is bigger than us.

And in the words of Joseph Campbell,

“Awe is what enables us to move forward.”

Or in the words of a dear friend,

probably one of our
greatest photographers,

still living photographers,
Duane Michaels,

he said to me just the other day

that maybe it gives us the curiosity
to overcome our cowardice.

So who cares? Why should we care?

Well, consider conflict,

which seems to be so omnipresent
in our society at the moment.

If you and I are in conflict,

it’s as if we’re at the opposite
ends of the same line.

And my aim is to prove that you’re wrong
and to shift you towards me.

The problem is, you are doing
exactly the same.

You’re trying to prove that I’m wrong
and shift me towards you.

Notice that conflict is the setup
to win but not learn.

Your brain only learns if we move.

Life is movement.

So, what if we could use awe,
not to get rid of conflict –

conflict is essential,
conflict is how your brain expands,

it’s how your brain learns –

but rather, to enter conflict
in a different way?

And what if awe could
enable us to enter it

in at least two different ways?

One, to give us the humility
and courage to not know.

Right? To enter conflict
with a question instead of an answer.

What would happen then?

To enter the conflict
with uncertainty instead of certainty.

And the second is,
in entering conflict that way,

to seek to understand,
rather than convince.

Because everyone makes sense
to themselves, right?

And to understand another person,

is to understand the biases
and assumptions

that give rise to their behavior.

And we’ve actually initiated a pilot study

to look to see whether
we could use art-induced awe

to facilitate toleration.

And the results are actually
incredibly positive.

We can mitigate against anger and hate

through the experience of awe
generated by art.

So where can we find awe,

given how important it is?

So, what if …

A suggestion:

that awe is not just
to be found in the grandeur.

Awe is essential.

Often, it’s scale –
the mountains, the sunscape.

But what if we could actually
rescale ourselves

and find the impossible in the simple?

And if this is true,

and our data are right,

then endeavors like science,

adventure, art, ideas, love,

a TED conference, performance,

are not only inspired by awe,

but could actually be our ladders
into uncertainty

to help us expand.

Thank you very much.

(Applause)

Please, come up.

(Applause)

(Cheers)

(Applause)

在我开始之前:

我真的很高兴能来到这里

,从这里实际观看将要发生的事情。

话虽如此,
我们将开始:

我们最大的

需求之一是什么,我们对大脑的最大需求之一是什么?

而不是告诉你,
我想告诉你。

事实上,我想让你感受一下。

在接下来的 14 分钟里,我希望你能感受到很多

所以,如果我们都能站起来。

我们要一起指挥
一段施特劳斯。

好吧? 你们都知道。

好吧。 你准备好了吗?

观众:对!

博乐透:好的。
准备好,一,二,三!

这只是结束。

(音乐:理查德施特劳斯
“Also Sprach Zarathustra”)

对吧?

你知道它要去哪里。

(音乐)

哦,它来了!

(音乐突然停止)

哦!

(笑声)

对吧?

集体性交中断。

好的,你们都可以坐下。

(笑声)

我们有关闭的基本需求。

(笑声)

我们喜欢封闭。

(掌声)

有人告诉我莫扎特,
就在他上床睡觉前,

他会走到钢琴前,

“da-da-da-da-da”。

他的父亲,已经在床上,
会想,“啊。”

他必须起床
并在和弦上敲出最后一个音符

才能重新入睡。

(笑声)

所以结束的需要
让我们思考:

我们最大的恐惧是什么?

想一想——即使是现在,我们在成长过程中最大的恐惧是什么

这是对黑暗的恐惧。

我们讨厌不确定性。

我们讨厌不知道。

我们讨厌它。

想想恐怖片。

恐怖片总是在黑暗中拍摄,

在森林里,

在夜晚,

在大海深处,在

太空的黑暗中。

原因是因为
在进化过程中死亡很容易。

如果你不确定那是捕食者,

那就太晚了。

你的大脑进化为预测。

如果你无法预测,你就死了。

你的大脑预测的方式

对过去有用的偏见和假设进行编码。

但这些
假设不会停留在你的大脑中。

你将它们投射到世界上。

那里没有鸟。

你将意义
投射到屏幕上。

我现在对你说的一切
都是毫无意义的。

(笑声)

你正在创造意义
并将其投射到我身上。

对象
的真实情况对其他人也是真实的。

虽然您可以衡量
他们的“什么”和“何时”,但

您永远无法衡量他们的“为什么”。

所以我们给别人上色。

根据我们的偏见和经验,我们将意义投射到他们身上。

这就是为什么最好的设计几乎
总是关于减少不确定性。

因此,当我们陷入不确定性时,

我们的身体会在
生理和心理上做出反应。

你的免疫系统
会开始恶化。

你的脑细胞会枯萎甚至死亡。

你的创造力和智力下降。

我们经常从恐惧变成愤怒,
几乎太频繁了。

为什么? 因为恐惧是一种确定的状态。

你变得在道德上评判。

你变成了自己的极端版本。

如果你是一个保守派,
你就会变得更加保守。

如果你是一个自由主义者,
你就会变得更加自由。

因为你去了一个熟悉的地方。

问题是世界变了。

我们必须适应或死亡。

如果你想从 A 转到 B

,第一步不是

B。第一步是从 A 转到不是

A——放下你的偏见和假设;

踏入我们大脑进化所要避免的地方;

踏入未知的地方。

但它是如此重要
,以至于我们去这个地方

,我们的大脑给了我们一个解决方案。

进化给了我们一个解决方案。

这可能是最深刻的
感知体验之一。

这是敬畏的体验。

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(干杯)

(掌声)

Beau Lotto: 啊,多么美妙,对吧?

所以现在,你可能都
在某种程度上感到敬畏。

对?

那么
现在你的大脑里发生了什么?

几千年来,

我们一直在思考、写作
和体验敬畏

,但我们对此知之甚少。

因此,为了尝试了解
它是什么以及它做了什么,

我的 Misfits 实验室
有一个绝妙的机会和愉快

的工作,他们
是我们所知道的一些最伟大的敬畏创造者

:作家、创造者
、 董事,会计师,

太阳马戏团的人。

所以我们去了拉斯维加斯

,我们记录

人们在观看表演时的大脑活动,

超过10场“O”的表演,

这是马戏团的标志性表演。

我们还测量
了表演前的行为,

以及
表演后的不同组。

因此,我们有 200 多人参与其中。

那么敬畏是什么?

你的大脑现在正在发生什么?

这是一种大脑状态。 好的?

你大脑的前部,
前额叶皮层,

负责你的执行功能,

你的注意力控制,

现在正在被下调。

你大脑中
称为 DMN 的部分,默认模式网络,


是你大脑中多个区域之间的交互

,在发散思维和白日梦方面,它在某种意义上是活跃的,在构思、

创造性思维中活跃

现在正在被上调。

现在,

你的
前额叶皮层的活动正在发生变化。

它的
活动变得不对称,

偏向右边,

当人们向前迈进

而不是后退时,这种联系是高度相关的。

事实上,
所有这些人的大脑活动是如此相关

,以至于我们能够训练
一个人工神经网络

来预测
人们是否体验

到敬畏,平均准确率为 75%

,最高为 83% .

那么这个大脑状态是做什么的呢?

嗯,其他人已经证明,

例如,
海特教授和凯尔特纳

教授告诉我们,人们感觉渺小
但与世界相连。

他们的亲社会行为增加了,

因为他们
对他人的亲和力增加了。

我们还在这项研究中

表明,人们
对认知控制的需求较少。

他们更愿意接受不确定性
而无需关闭。

他们
的风险偏好也在增加。

他们实际上是在寻求风险,
而且他们更能承担风险。

真正非常深刻的

是,当我们问人们,

“你是一个有敬畏倾向的人
吗?”


[之前]相比,他们更有可能在演出后给予积极回应。

他们从字面上重新定义了自己
和他们的历史。

所以,敬畏
可能是比我们更大的感知。

用约瑟夫坎贝尔的话来说,

“敬畏是我们前进的动力。”

或者用一位亲爱的朋友的话来说,

可能是我们
最伟大的摄影师之一,

仍然在世的摄影师
杜安迈克尔斯,

他前几天对我说

,也许它给了
我们克服怯懦的好奇心。

那么谁在乎呢? 我们为什么要关心?

好吧,考虑一下冲突,目前


在我们的社会中似乎无处不在。

如果你和我发生冲突,

就好像我们在
同一条线的两端。

我的目的是证明你是错的,
然后把你转向我。

问题是,你做的
完全一样。

你试图证明我错了,
然后把我转向你。

请注意,冲突是
赢得但不是学习的设置。

你的大脑只有在我们移动时才会学习。

生活就是运动。

那么,如果我们可以使用敬畏,
而不是摆脱冲突——

冲突是必不可少的,
冲突是你的大脑如何扩展,

它是你的大脑学习的方式——

而是
以不同的方式进入冲突呢?

如果敬畏
能让我们

以至少两种不同的方式进入它呢?

一、给予我们
不知道的谦逊和勇气。

对?
与问题而不是答案发生冲突。

那时会发生什么?

带着不确定性而不是确定性进入冲突。

第二个是,
以这种方式进入冲突

,寻求理解,
而不是说服。

因为每个人都
对自己有意义,对吧?

理解另一个人,

就是理解导致他们行为的偏见
和假设

我们实际上已经启动了一项试点研究

,看看
我们是否可以利用艺术引起的敬畏

来促进容忍。

结果实际上是
非常积极的。

我们可以通过艺术产生的敬畏体验来减轻愤怒和仇恨

那么,考虑到敬畏的重要性,我们在哪里可以找到敬畏

呢?

那么,如果……

一个建议

:敬畏
不仅仅存在于宏伟之中。

敬畏是必不可少的。

通常,它是规模
——山脉,阳光。

但是,如果我们真的可以
重新调整自己的规模

并在简单中找到不可能的事情呢?

如果这是真的,

而且我们的数据是正确的,

那么像科学、

冒险、艺术、想法、爱情

、TED 会议、表演

这样的努力不仅会受到敬畏的启发,

而且实际上可能是我们
进入不确定性

的阶梯,帮助我们扩展 .

非常感谢你。

(掌声)

请上来。

(掌声)

(干杯)

(掌声)