This deepsea mystery is changing our understanding of life Karen Lloyd

I’m an ocean microbiologist
at the University of Tennessee,

and I want to tell you guys
about some microbes

that are so strange and wonderful

that they’re challenging our assumptions
about what life is like on Earth.

So I have a question.

Please raise your hand
if you’ve ever thought it would be cool

to go to the bottom
of the ocean in a submarine?

Yes.

Most of you, because
the oceans are so cool.

Alright, now – please raise your hand

if the reason you raised your hand
to go to the bottom of the ocean

is because it would get you
a little bit closer

to that exciting mud that’s down there.

(Laughter)

Nobody.

I’m the only one in this room.

Well, I think about this all the time.

I spend most of my waking hours

trying to determine
how deep we can go into the Earth

and still find something,
anything, that’s alive,

because we still don’t know
the answer to this very basic question

about life on Earth.

So in the 1980s, a scientist
named John Parkes, in the UK,

was similarly obsessed,

and he came up with a crazy idea.

He believed that there was a vast,
deep, and living microbial biosphere

underneath all the world’s oceans

that extends hundreds of meters
into the seafloor,

which is cool,

but the only problem
is that nobody believed him,

and the reason that nobody believed him

is that ocean sediments
may be the most boring place on Earth.

(Laughter)

There’s no sunlight, there’s no oxygen,

and perhaps worst of all,

there’s no fresh food deliveries
for literally millions of years.

You don’t have to have a PhD in biology

to know that that is a bad place
to go looking for life.

(Laughter)

But in 2002, [Steven D’Hondt] had
convinced enough people

that he was on to something
that he actually got an expedition

on this drillship,
called the JOIDES Resolution.

And he ran it along with
Bo Barker Jørgensen of Denmark.

And so they were finally able to get

good pristine deep subsurface samples

some really without contamination
from surface microbes.

This drill ship is capable of drilling
thousands of meters underneath the ocean,

and the mud comes up in sequential cores,
one after the other –

long, long cores that look like this.

This is being carried by scientists
such as myself who go on these ships,

and we process the cores on the ships
and then we send them home

to our home laboratories
for further study.

So when John and his colleagues

got these first precious
deep-sea pristine samples,

they put them under the microscope,

and they saw images
that looked pretty much like this,

which is actually taken
from a more recent expedition

by my PhD student, Joy Buongiorno.

You can see the hazy stuff
in the background.

That’s mud. That’s deep-sea ocean mud,

and the bright green dots
stained with the green fluorescent dye

are real, living microbes.

Now I’ve got to tell you
something really tragic about microbes.

They all look the same under a microscope,

I mean, to a first approximation.

You can take the most fascinating
organisms in the world,

like a microbe that literally
breathes uranium,

and another one that makes rocket fuel,

mix them up with some ocean mud,

put them underneath a microscope,

and they’re just little dots.

It’s really annoying.

So we can’t use their looks
to tell them apart.

We have to use DNA, like a fingerprint,

to say who is who.

And I’ll teach you guys
how to do it right now.

So I made up some data, and I’m going
to show you some data that are not real.

This is to illustrate
what it would look like

if a bunch of species
were not related to each other at all.

So you can see each species

has a list of combinations
of A, G, C and T,

which are the four sub-units of DNA,

sort of randomly jumbled,
and nothing looks like anything else,

and these species
are totally unrelated to each other.

But this is what real DNA looks like,

from a gene that these species
happen to share.

Everything lines up nearly perfectly.

The chances of getting
so many of those vertical columns

where every species has a C
or every species has a T,

by random chance, are infinitesimal.

So we know that all those species
had to have had a common ancestor.

They’re all relatives of each other.

So now I’ll tell you who they are.

The top two are us and chimpanzees,

which y’all already knew were related,
because, I mean, obviously.

(Laughter)

But we’re also related to things
that we don’t look like,

like pine trees and Giardia,
which is that gastrointestinal disease

you can get if you don’t filter
your water while you’re hiking.

We’re also related to bacteria
like E. coli and Clostridium difficile,

which is a horrible, opportunistic
pathogen that kills lots of people.

But there’s of course good microbes too,
like Dehalococcoides ethenogenes,

which cleans up
our industrial waste for us.

So if I take these DNA sequences,

and then I use them, the similarities
and differences between them,

to make a family tree for all of us

so you can see who is closely related,

then this is what it looks like.

So you can see clearly, at a glance,

that things like us and Giardia
and bunnies and pine trees

are all, like, siblings,

and then the bacteria
are like our ancient cousins.

But we’re kin to every
living thing on Earth.

So in my job, on a daily basis,

I get to produce scientific evidence
against existential loneliness.

So when we got these first DNA sequences,

from the first cruise, of pristine samples
from the deep subsurface,

we wanted to know where they were.

So the first thing that we discovered
is that they were not aliens,

because we could get their DNA to line up
with everything else on Earth.

But now check out where they go
on our tree of life.

The first thing you’ll notice
is that there’s a lot of them.

It wasn’t just one little species

that managed to live
in this horrible place.

It’s kind of a lot of things.

And the second thing that you’ll notice,

hopefully, is that they’re not
like anything we’ve ever seen before.

They are as different from each other

as they are from anything
that we’ve known before

as we are from pine trees.

So John Parkes was completely correct.

He, and we, had discovered
a completely new and highly diverse

microbial ecosystem on Earth

that no one even knew existed
before the 1980s.

So now we were on a roll.

The next step was to grow
these exotic species in a petri dish

so that we could
do real experiments on them

like microbiologists are supposed to do.

But no matter what we fed them,

they refused to grow.

Even now, 15 years
and many expeditions later,

no human has ever gotten a single one
of these exotic deep subsurface microbes

to grow in a petri dish.

And it’s not for lack of trying.

That may sound disappointing,

but I actually find it exhilarating,

because it means there are so many
tantalizing unknowns to work on.

Like, my colleagues and I got
what we thought was a really great idea.

We were going to read their genes
like a recipe book,

find out what it was they wanted to eat
and put it in their petri dishes,

and then they would grow and be happy.

But when we looked at their genes,

it turns out that what they wanted to eat
was the food we were already feeding them.

So that was a total wash.

There was something else
that they wanted in their petri dishes

that we were just not giving them.

So by combining measurements
from many different places

around the world,

my colleagues at the University
of Southern California,

Doug LaRowe and Jan Amend,

were able to calculate that each one
of these deep-sea microbial cells

requires only one zeptowatt of power,

and before you get your phones out,
a zepto is 10 to the minus 21,

because I know I would want
to look that up.

Humans, on the other hand,

require about 100 watts of power.

So 100 watts is basically
if you take a pineapple

and drop it from about waist height
to the ground 881,632 times a day.

If you did that
and then linked it up to a turbine,

that would create enough power
to make me happen for a day.

A zeptowatt, if you put it
in similar terms,

is if you take just one grain of salt

and then you imagine
a tiny, tiny, little ball

that is one thousandth of the mass
of that one grain of salt

and then you drop it one nanometer,

which is a hundred times smaller
than the wavelength of visible light,

once per day.

That’s all it takes
to make these microbes live.

That’s less energy than we ever thought
would be capable of supporting life,

but somehow, amazingly, beautifully,

it’s enough.

So if these deep-subsurface microbes

have a very different relationship
with energy than we previously thought,

then it follows that they’ll have to have

a different relationship
with time as well,

because when you live
on such tiny energy gradients,

rapid growth is impossible.

If these things wanted
to colonize our throats and make us sick,

they would get muscled out
by fast-growing streptococcus

before they could even
initiate cell division.

So that’s why we never
find them in our throats.

Perhaps the fact that the deep
subsurface is so boring

is actually an asset to these microbes.

They never get washed out by a storm.

They never get overgrown by weeds.

All they have to do is exist.

Maybe that thing that we were missing
in our petri dishes

was not food at all.

Maybe it wasn’t a chemical.

Maybe the thing that they really want,

the nutrient that they want, is time.

But time is the one thing
that I’ll never be able to give them.

So even if I have a cell culture
that I pass to my PhD students,

who pass it to their
PhD students, and so on,

we’d have to do that
for thousands of years

in order to mimic the exact conditions
of the deep subsurface,

all without growing any contaminants.

It’s just not possible.

But maybe in a way we already have
grown them in our petri dishes.

Maybe they looked at all that food
we offered them and said,

“Thanks, I’m going to speed up so much

that I’m going to make
a new cell next century.

Ugh.

(Laughter)

So why is it that the rest
of biology moves so fast?

Why does a cell die after a day

and a human dies
after only a hundred years?

These seem like really
arbitrarily short limits

when you think about the total amount
of time in the universe.

But these are not arbitrary limits.

They’re dictated by one simple thing,

and that thing is the Sun.

Once life figured out how to harness
the energy of the Sun

through photosynthesis,

we all had to speed up
and get on day and night cycles.

In that way, the Sun gave us
both a reason to be fast

and the fuel to do it.

You can view most of life on Earth
like a circulatory system,

and the Sun is our beating heart.

But the deep subsurface
is like a circulatory system

that’s completely
disconnected from the Sun.

It’s instead being driven
by long, slow geological rhythms.

There’s currently no theoretical limit
on the lifespan of one single cell.

As long as there is at least
a tiny energy gradient to exploit,

theoretically, a single cell could live

for hundreds of thousands
of years or more,

simply by replacing
broken parts over time.

To ask a microbe that lives like that
to grow in our petri dishes

is to ask them to adapt to our frenetic,
Sun-centric, fast way of living,

and maybe they’ve got
better things to do than that.

(Laughter)

Imagine if we could figure out
how they managed to do this.

What if it involves some cool,
ultra-stable compounds

that we could use
to increase the shelf life

in biomedical or industrial applications?

Or maybe if we figure out
the mechanism that they use

to grow so extraordinarily slowly,

we could mimic it in cancer cells
and slow runaway cell division.

I don’t know.

I mean, honestly, that is all speculation,

but the only thing I know for certain

is that there are
a hundred billion billion billlion

living microbial cells

underlying all the world’s oceans.

That’s 200 times more than the total
biomass of humans on this planet.

And those microbes have
a fundamentally different relationship

with time and energy than we do.

What seems like a day to them

might be a thousand years to us.

They don’t care about the Sun,

and they don’t care about growing fast,

and they probably don’t give a damn
about my petri dishes …

(Laughter)

but if we can continue to find
creative ways to study them,

then maybe we’ll finally figure out
what life, all of life, is like on Earth.

Thank you.

(Applause)

我是田纳西大学的海洋微生物学家

,我想告诉
你们一些

非常奇怪和奇妙的微生物

,它们正在挑战我们
对地球上生命的假设。

所以我有一个问题。

如果您曾想过乘坐潜艇潜入海底会很酷

,请举手

是的。

你们中的大多数人,
因为海洋是如此凉爽。

好的,现在——

如果你举手
去海底

的原因是因为它会让你

接近海底那令人兴奋的泥浆,请举手。

(笑声)

没有人。

我是这个房间里唯一的一个。

嗯,我一直在想这个。

我醒着的大部分时间都在

试图确定
我们可以进入地球多深

,仍然能找到一些
有生命的东西,

因为我们仍然不知道
这个关于地球生命的基本问题的答案

所以在 1980 年代,英国一位
名叫约翰·帕克斯的科学家

也同样痴迷于此

,他想出了一个疯狂的想法。

他认为,在全世界所有海洋的下方,都有一个广阔、
深邃、活生生的微生物生物圈

,延伸
到海底数百米,

这很酷,

但唯一的问题
是没有人相信他,没有

人相信他的原因

是 海洋沉积物
可能是地球上最无聊的地方。

(笑声)

没有阳光,没有氧气

,也许最糟糕的是,几百万年来都

没有新鲜食品的
运送。

你不必拥有生物学博士学位

就知道那是一个
寻找生命的坏地方。

(笑声)

但是在 2002 年,[Steven D’Hondt] 已经
说服了足够多的人

,他正在做一些事情
,他实际上

在这艘钻井
船上进行了一次探险,称为 JOIDES 决议。

他与
丹麦的 Bo Barker Jørgensen 一起经营它。

因此,他们最终能够获得

良好的原始深层地下样本,

其中一些样本确实没有
受到地表微生物的污染。

这艘钻井船能够
在海底钻探数千米

,泥浆一个接一个地以连续的岩心出现
——

长长的岩心,看起来像这样。

这是由
像我这样乘坐这些飞船的科学家携带的

,我们在飞船上处理核心
,然后将它们

送回我们的家庭实验室
进行进一步研究。

所以当约翰和他的同事们

拿到这些珍贵的
深海原始样本时,

他们将它们放在显微镜下

,他们看到的图像
看起来很像这样,

实际上是

我的博士生乔伊·布翁乔诺最近的一次探险中拍摄的 .

你可以在背景中看到朦胧的东西

那是泥。 那是深海海洋泥浆,

被绿色荧光染料染色的亮绿色小点

是真正的活微生物。

现在我要告诉你
一些关于微生物的悲剧。

它们在显微镜下看起来都是一样的,

我的意思是,第一个近似值。

你可以把世界上最迷人的
生物,

比如真正会呼吸铀的微生物,

以及另一种制造火箭燃料的微生物,

将它们与一些海洋泥浆混合,

放在显微镜下

,它们只是小点。

这真的很烦人。

所以我们不能用他们的外表
来区分他们。

我们必须像指纹一样使用 DNA

来判断谁是谁。

我现在就教你们
怎么做。

所以我编造了一些数据,我
将向你展示一些不真实的数据。

这是为了说明

如果一堆
物种根本没有相互关系会是什么样子。

所以你可以看到每个物种

都有一个
A、G、C 和 T 组合的列表,

它们是 DNA 的四个亚单位,

有点随机混杂
,没有任何东西看起来像其他任何东西

,这些物种
与每个物种完全无关 其他。

但这就是真正的 DNA 的样子,

来自这些物种
碰巧共有的基因。

一切都几乎完美排列。 随机

获得
如此多的垂直列

,其中每个物种都有 C
或每个物种都有 T

的机会是无限小的。

所以我们知道所有这些物种
都必须有一个共同的祖先。

他们都是彼此的亲戚。

所以现在我要告诉你他们是谁。

前两个是我们和黑猩猩

,你们都已经知道它们是相关的,
因为,我的意思是,很明显。

(笑声)

但我们也与一些
看起来不像的东西有关,

比如松树和贾第鞭毛虫,

如果你在徒步旅行时不过滤水,就会患上胃肠道疾病。

我们还
与大肠杆菌和艰难梭菌等细菌有关,

这是一种可怕的机会
性病原体,会杀死很多人。

但当然也有很好的微生物,
比如 Dehalococcoides ethenogenes,

它们可以
为我们清理工业废物。

因此,如果我获取这些 DNA 序列,

然后我使用它们,它们之间的相似之处
和不同之处,

为我们所有人制作一个家谱,

这样你就可以看到谁是密切相关的,

那么这就是它的样子。

所以你一眼就可以清楚地看到

,像我们和贾第鞭毛虫
、兔子和松树这样的东西

都是兄弟姐妹,

然后
细菌就像我们的远古表亲。

但我们与地球上的每一个生物都亲近

所以在我的工作中,每天,

我都会拿出科学证据来
反对存在的孤独感。

因此,当我们

从第一次巡航中获得来自地下深处的原始样本的第一批 DNA 序列时

我们想知道它们在哪里。

所以我们发现的第一件事
是他们不是外星人,

因为我们可以让他们的 DNA
与地球上的其他一切相一致。

但现在看看他们
在我们的生命之树上去了哪里。

你会注意到的第一件事
是它们有很多。

不只是一个小

物种设法生活
在这个可怕的地方。

这是很多事情。

希望您会注意到的第二件事

是,它们
与我们以前见过的任何东西都不一样。

它们彼此不同,

就像它们与
我们以前所知道的任何东西一样,

就像我们与松树一样。

所以约翰帕克斯是完全正确的。

他和我们在地球上发现
了一个全新的、高度多样化的

微生物生态系统,在 1980 年代之前

甚至没有人知道它的存在

所以现在我们很顺利。

下一步是
在培养皿中培养这些外来物种,

这样我们就可以

像微生物学家应该做的那样对它们进行真正的实验。

但无论我们喂它们什么,

它们都拒绝生长。

即使是现在,15 年
和许多次探险之后,也

没有人
曾让这些奇异的深层地下微生物

中的任何一种在培养皿中生长。

这并不是因为缺乏尝试。

这听起来可能令人失望,

但我真的觉得它令人振奋,

因为这意味着有很多
诱人的未知数需要研究。

就像,我和我的同事得到
了我们认为非常棒的想法。

我们将像阅读食谱书一样阅读他们的基因

找出他们想吃的
东西并将其放入培养皿中

,然后他们就会成长并快乐。

但当我们查看它们的基因

时,发现它们想要吃的
是我们已经喂给它们的食物。

所以这是一个彻底的清洗。

他们在培养皿中还需要其他一些东西,

而我们只是没有给他们。

因此,通过结合
来自世界各地许多不同地方的测量结果

我在
南加州大学的同事

Doug LaRowe 和 Jan

Amend 能够计算
出这些深海微生物细胞中的

每一个都只需要 1 zeptowatt 的功率,

而在此之前 你把手机拿出来
,zepto 是 10 到负 21,

因为我知道我想
查一下。

另一方面,人类

需要大约 100 瓦的电力。

所以 100 瓦基本上是
如果你拿一个菠萝

,每天将它从腰部高度跌落
到地面 881,632 次。

如果你这样做,
然后将它连接到涡轮机,

那将产生足够的
力量让我发生一天。

zeptowatt,如果你
用类似的话来说,

就是如果你只拿一粒盐

,然后你想象
一个微小的,微小的,小球

,它的
质量是一粒盐的千分之一

,然后你把它扔掉一个 纳米,

比可见光的波长小一百倍,

每天一次。


就是使这些微生物存活所需的一切。

这比我们想象的能够支持生命的能量要少

但不知何故,令人惊讶地,美妙地,

它就足够了。

因此,如果这些地下深处的微生物

与能量的关系与我们之前认为的非常不同,

那么它们与时间的关系也将

有所不同

因为当你生活
在如此微小的能量梯度中时,

快速生长是 不可能的。

如果这些东西想
在我们的喉咙里定居并让我们生病,

它们甚至会在
启动细胞分裂之前就被快速生长的链球菌挤掉。

所以这就是为什么我们从来没有
在我们的喉咙里找到它们。

也许
地下深处如此无聊

的事实实际上是这些微生物的一项资产。

他们永远不会被暴风雨冲走。

他们永远不会长满杂草。

他们所要做的就是存在。

也许我们在培养皿中缺少的东西

根本不是食物。

也许它不是化学物质。

也许他们真正想要的东西,

他们想要的营养,就是时间。

但时间
是我永远无法给他们的一件事。

因此,即使我将细胞培养
物传给我的博士生,再

传给他们的
博士生,等等,

我们也必须这样做

千年才能模拟
地下深处的确切条件 ,

所有这些都不会产生任何污染物。

这是不可能的。

但也许在某种程度上我们已经
在培养皿中种植了它们。

也许他们看了
我们提供给他们的所有食物然后说,

“谢谢,我要加快速度

,我要
在下个世纪制造一个新的细胞。

呃。

(笑声)

那为什么剩下的
生物学的发展速度如此之快?

为什么一个细胞一天就死了

,一个人
一百年就死了?

当你想到
宇宙中的总时间时,这些似乎真的是任意短的限制。

但这些不是任意的限制 .

它们由一个简单的东西决定

,那就是太阳。

一旦生命弄清楚如何通过光合作用
利用太阳的能量

我们都必须加快速度
并进入昼夜循环

。这样, 太阳给了
我们一个快速的理由

和燃料。

你可以把地球上的大部分生命
看作一个循环系统

,太阳是我们跳动的心脏。

但是地表深处
就像

一个完全
断开的循环系统 来自太阳。

相反,它是
由漫长而缓慢的地质节奏驱动的。

目前没有
单个细胞寿命的理论极限。

只要至少有
一个微小的能量梯度可供利用,

理论上,一个细胞就可以

存活数十
万年或更长时间,

只需
随着时间的推移更换破损的部件即可。

让像这样生活的微生物
在我们的培养皿中生长,

就是让它们适应我们狂热、以
太阳为中心、快速的生活方式

,也许它们还有
比这更好的事情要做。

(笑声)

想象一下,如果我们能
弄清楚他们是如何做到这一点的。

如果它涉及一些很酷、
超稳定的化合物

,我们可以使用这些化合物
来延长

生物医学或工业应用的保质期怎么办?

或者,如果我们弄清楚
它们用于

异常缓慢生长的机制,

我们可以在癌细胞中模仿它
并减缓失控的细胞分裂。

我不知道。

我的意思是,老实说,这都是猜测,

但我唯一确定的

是,在全世界所有的海洋中都有
一千亿个

活的微生物细胞

这是
地球上人类总生物量的 200 倍。

这些微生物

与时间和能量的关系与我们有着根本不同的关系。

在他们看来是一天,

对我们来说可能是一千年。

他们不关心太阳

,他们不关心快速生长

,他们可能根本
不在乎我的培养皿……

(笑声)

但如果我们能继续找到
创造性的方法来研究它们 ,

那么也许我们最终会
弄清楚地球上的生命,所有的生命,是什么样的。

谢谢你。

(掌声)