Can we choose to fall out of love Dessa

Hello, my name is Dessa,

and I’m a member of a hip-hop
collective called Doomtree.

I’m the one in the tank top.

(Laughter)

And I make my living as a performing,
touring rapper and singer.

When we perform as a collective,
this is what our shows look like.

I’m the one in the boots.

There’s a lot of jumping.
There’s a lot of sweating.

It’s loud. It’s very high-energy.

Sometimes there are
unintentional body checks onstage.

Sometimes there are completely
intentional body checks onstage.

It’s kind of a hybrid between
an intramural hockey game and a concert.

However, when I perform
my own music as a solo artist,

I tend to gravitate towards
more melancholy sounds.

A few years ago, I gave my mom
the rough mixes of a new album,

and she said, “Baby, it’s beautiful,
but why is it always so sad?”

(Laughter)

“You always make music to bleed out to.”

And I thought, “Who are you hanging
out with that you know that phrase?”

(Laughter)

But over the course of my career,
I’ve written so many sad love songs

that I got messages like this from fans:

“Release new music or a book.
I need help with my breakup.”

(Laughter)

And after performing and recording
and touring those songs for a long time,

I found myself in a position

in which my professional niche
was essentially romantic devastation.

What I hadn’t been public about, however,

was the fact that most of these songs
had been written about the same guy.

And for two years, we tried
to sort ourselves out,

and then for five

and on and off for 10.

And I was not only heartbroken,

but I was kind of embarrassed
that I couldn’t rebound

from what other people seemed
to recover from so regularly.

And even though I knew
it wasn’t doing either of us any good,

I just couldn’t figure out
how to put the love down.

Then, drinking white wine one night,

I saw a TED Talk by a woman
named Dr. Helen Fisher,

and she said that in her work, she’d
been able to map the coordinates of love

in the human brain.

And I thought, well,
if I could find my love in my brain,

maybe I could get it out.

So I went to Twitter.

“Anybody got access to an fMRI lab,

like at midnight or something?

I’ll trade for backstage
passes and whiskey.”

(Laughter)

And that’s Dr. Cheryl Olman,

who works at the University of Minnesota’s
Center for Magnetic Resonance Research.

She took me up on it.

I explained Dr. Fisher’s protocol,

and we decided to recreate it
with a sample size of one, me.

(Laughter)

So I got decked out in a pair
of forest green scrubs,

and I was laid on a gurney

and wheeled into an fMRI machine.

If you’re unfamiliar with that technology,

essentially, an fMRI machine
is a big, tubular magnet

that tracks the progress
of deoxygenated iron in your blood.

So it’s essentially figuring out
what parts of your brain

are making the biggest metabolic demand
at any given moment.

And in that way, it can figure out

which structures
are associated with a task,

like tapping your finger, for example,
will always light up the same region,

or in my case,

looking at pictures of your ex-boyfriend

and then looking at pictures of a dude
who just sort of resembled my ex-boyfriend

but for whom I had no strong feelings.

He was the control.

(Laughter)

And when I left the machine,

we had these really
high-resolution images of my brain.

We could cleave the two halves apart.

We could inflate the cortex to see
inside all of the wrinkles, essentially,

in a view that Dr. Cheryl Olman
called the “brain skin rug.”

(Laughter)

And we could see how my brain had behaved
when I looked at images of both men.

And this was important.

We could track all of the activity

when I looked at the control
and when I looked at my ex,

and it was in comparing these data sets
that we’d be able to find the love alone,

in the same way that, if I were
to step on a scale fully dressed

and then step on it again naked,

the difference between those numbers
would be the weight of my clothing.

So when we did that data comparison,
we subtracted one from the other,

we found activity in exactly the regions
that Dr. Fisher would have predicted.

That’s me.

And that’s my brain in love.

There was activity in that little
orange dot, the ventral tegmental area,

that kind of loop of red
is the anterior cingulate

and that golden set of horns
is the caudates.

After she had had time to analyze
the data with her team

and a couple of partners, Andrea and Phil,

Cheryl sent me an image, a single slide.

It was my brain in cross section,

with one bright dot of activity

that represented
my feelings for this dude.

And I’d known I was in love,

and that’s the whole reason
I was going to these outrageous lengths.

But having an image that proved it
felt like such a vindication,

like, “Yeah, it’s all in my head,
but now I know exactly where.”

(Laughter)

And I also felt like an assassin
who had her mark.

That was what I had to annihilate.

So I decided to embark
on a course of treatment

called “neurofeedback.”

I worked with a woman named
Penijean Gracefire,

and she explained that what we’d be doing
was training my brain.

We’re not lobotomizing anything.

We’re training it in the way
that we would train a muscle,

so that it would be flexible enough
and resilient enough

to respond appropriately
to my circumstances.

So when we’re on the treadmill,
we would anticipate

that our heart would beat and pound,

and when we’re asleep,
we would ask that that muscle slow.

Similarly, when I’m in a long-term,
viable, loving romantic relationship,

the emotional centers
of my brain should engage,

and when I’m not in a long-term,
viable, emotional, loving relationship,

they should eventually chill out.

So she came over with a set of electrodes
just smaller than a dime

that were sensitive enough
to detect my brainwaves

through my bone and hair and scalp.

And when she rigged me up,
I could see my brain working in real time.

And in another view that she showed me,

I could see exactly which parts
of my brain were hyperactive,

here displayed in red;

hypoactive, here displayed in blue;

and the healthy threshold of behavior,

the green zone, the Goldilocks zone,

which is where I wanted to go.

And we can, in fact, isolate
just those parts of my brain

that were associated
with the romantic regulation

that we’d identified in the Fisher study.

So Penijean, several times,

hooked me up with all her electrodes,

and she explained that I didn’t
have to do or think anything.

I just essentially
had to hold pretty still

and stay awake

and watch.

(Harp and vibraphone sounds play)

So I did.

And every time my brain operated
in that healthy threshold,

I got a little run of harp
or vibraphone music.

And I just watched my brain rotate
at roughly the speed of a gyro machine

on my dad’s flat-screen TV.

And that was counterintuitive.

She said the learning would be
essentially unconscious.

But then I thought about
the other things I had learned

without actively engaging
my conscious mind.

When you ride a bike,

I don’t really know what, like,
my left calf muscle is doing,

or how my latissimus dorsi knows
to engage when I wobble to the right.

The body just learns.

And similarly, Pavlov’s dogs probably
don’t know a lot about, like,

protein structures
or the waveform of a ringing bell,

but they salivate nonetheless
because the body paired the stimuli.

Finished the sessions,

went back to Dr. Cheryl
Olman’s fMRI machine,

and we repeated the protocol,

the same images –

of the ex, of the control and,
in the interest of scientific rigor,

Cheryl and her team
didn’t know who was who,

so that they couldn’t
influence the results.

And after she had time
to analyze that second set of data,

she sent me that image.

She said,

“Dude A’s dominance of your brain

seems to essentially have been eradicated.

I think this is the desired result,”
comma, yes, question mark.

(Laughter)

And that was the exactly
the desired result.

And finally, I allowed myself
a moment to introspect,

like, how did I feel?

And in one way, it felt like

it was the same inventory of feelings
that I’d had at the outset.

This isn’t “Eternal Sunshine
of the Spotless Mind.”

The dude wasn’t a stranger.

But I’d had love and jealousy
and amity and attraction and respect

and all those complicated feelings
that you amass after long-term love.

But it felt like the benevolent feelings
had risen to the surface,

and the feelings of fixation
and the less-generous feelings

weren’t quite so present.

And that sounds like
a small thing in some way,

this resequencing of feelings,

but to me it felt like the biggest thing.

Like, if I told you,

“I’m going to anesthetize you,

and I’m also going to take out
your wisdom teeth,”

it would really matter to you the sequence
in which I did those two things.

(Laughter)

And I also felt like

I’d had this really unusual
philosophical privilege

to understand love.

The lab offered to 3D-print my caudate.

I got to hold love in my hand.

(Laughter)

And then I bronzed it,

and I made it into a necklace and sold
it at the merch table at my shows.

(Laughter)

(Applause)

And then, with the help of a couple
of friends back in Minneapolis,

one of them Becky,

we made an enormous disco ball of it –

(Laughter)

that could descend
from the ceiling at my big shows.

And I felt like I’d had the opportunity
to better understand love,

even the compulsive parts.

It isn’t a neat, symmetrical
Valentine’s heart.

It’s bodily, it’s systemic,

it is a hideous pair of ram’s horns
buried somewhere deep within your skull,

and when that special boy walks by,

it lights up,

and if he likes you back
and you make each other happy,

then you fan the flames.

And if he doesn’t,

then you assemble a team
of neuroscientists

to snuff them out by force.

(Laughter)

Thanks.

(Applause)

大家好,我的名字是 Dessa

,我是嘻哈
乐队 Doomtree 的成员。

我是背心里的那个。

(笑声)

我以表演、
巡回说唱歌手和歌手为生。

当我们作为一个集体表演时,
这就是我们表演的样子。

我是那个穿靴子的人。

有很多跳跃。
有很多出汗。

声音很大。 这是非常高能量的。

有时会在
舞台上进行无意的身体检查。

有时会在舞台上进行完全
有意的身体检查。


是校内曲棍球比赛和音乐会的混合体。

然而,当我
以独奏艺术家的身份演奏自己的音乐时,

我倾向于倾向于
更多忧郁的声音。

几年前,我送给妈妈
一张新专辑的粗调

,她说:“宝贝,很美,
但为什么总是这么难过?”

(笑声)

“你总是创作让人流血的音乐。”

我想,“你和谁
一起玩,你知道那句话?”

(笑声)

但在我的职业生涯中,
我写了很多悲伤的情歌

,以至于我收到了粉丝这样的信息:

“发布新音乐或一本书。
我需要帮助解决我的分手问题。”

(笑声

) 在长时间表演、录制
和巡演这些歌曲之后,

我发现自己的职业

定位基本上是浪漫的毁灭。

然而,我没有公开

的是,这些歌曲中的大多数
都是关于同一个人的。

两年来,
我们试图解决问题,

然后是

5 次,10 次断断续续。

我不仅伤心欲绝,

而且我有点尴尬
,因为我无法

从其他人似乎
从中恢复过来的事情中恢复过来 如此定期。

即使我知道
这对我们俩都没有任何好处,但

我就是不知道
如何放下爱。

然后,有一天晚上喝了白葡萄酒,

我看到了一位名叫 Helen Fisher 博士的女士的 TED 演讲

,她说在她的工作中,
她能够绘制

出人类大脑中爱的坐标。

我想,好吧,
如果我能在我的大脑中找到我的爱,

也许我可以把它弄出来。

所以我去了推特。

“任何人都可以进入 fMRI 实验室,

比如在午夜或其他什么时候?

我会换取后台
通行证和威士忌。”

(笑声)

那是

在明尼苏达大学
磁共振研究中心工作的 Cheryl Olman 博士。

她接受了我。

我解释了 Fisher 博士的方案

,我们决定重新创建它
,样本大小为我。

(笑声)

所以我穿上
了森林绿色的磨砂布

,我被放在

轮床上,然后被推到 fMRI 机器上。

如果你不熟悉这项技术,

本质上,fMRI 机器
是一个大的管状磁铁

,可以跟踪
你血液中脱氧铁的进展。

所以它本质上是弄清楚
你大脑的哪些部分在任何特定时刻

产生了最大的新陈代谢需求

通过这种方式,它可以找出

哪些
结构与任务相关联

,例如,点击你的手指,
总是会点亮同一个区域,

或者在我的情况下,

看你前男友的照片

,然后看 一个
有点像我前男友

但我对他没有强烈感情的家伙的照片。

他是控制者。

(笑声

) 当我离开机器时,

我们得到
了我大脑的这些非常高分辨率的图像。

我们可以将两半分开。

我们可以给皮层充气,以查看
所有皱纹的内部,基本上,

谢丽尔·奥尔曼博士
称之为“大脑皮肤地毯”。

(笑声) 当

我看到两个人的照片时,我们可以看到我的大脑是如何表现的

这很重要。

当我查看对照组
和查看我的前任时,我们可以跟踪所有活动,

并且通过比较这些数据集
,我们才能单独找到爱情

,就像如果我是
穿着衣服踩在秤

上,然后赤身裸体地再次踩在上面,

这些数字之间的差异
就是我衣服的重量。

因此,当我们进行数据比较时,
我们从另一个中减去一个,

我们发现
Fisher 博士预测的区域中的活动。

那是我。

这就是我恋爱中的大脑。

那个
橙色的小点,腹侧被盖区有活动

,那种红色的环
是前扣带回

,那组金色的角
是尾状核。

在她有时间
与她的团队

以及几个合作伙伴 Andrea 和 Phil 分析数据后,

Cheryl 给我发了一张图片,一张幻灯片。

横截面是我的大脑,

有一个

亮点代表
我对这个家伙的感情。

而且我知道我恋爱了

,这就是
我要做出这些离谱的长度的全部原因。

但是有一个图像证明它
感觉像是一种辩护,

就像,“是的,这一切都在我的脑海里,
但现在我确切地知道在哪里。”

(笑声)

我也觉得自己像个
有她印记的刺客。

那是我必须消灭的。

所以我决定
开始一个

叫做“神经反馈”的治疗过程。

我和一位名叫 Penijean Gracefire 的女士
一起工作

,她解释说我们要做的
是训练我的大脑。

我们不是在切除任何东西。

我们以训练肌肉的方式训练它,

这样它就足够灵活
和有弹性,

可以对我的情况做出适当的反应

因此,当我们在跑步机上时,
我们会

预计我们的心脏会跳动和跳动,

而当我们睡着时,
我们会要求那块肌肉放慢速度。

同样,当我处于一段长期的、
可行的、充满爱的浪漫关系中时,

我大脑的情感中心应该参与其中,

而当我没有处于长期、
可行的、充满感情的、充满爱的关系中时,

它们最终应该会冷静下来 出去。

所以她带着一组比一角硬币还小的电极过来了,这些电极

足够灵敏,
可以

通过我的骨头、头发和头皮检测到我的脑电波。

当她把我装好时,
我可以看到我的大脑实时工作。

在她向我展示的另一个视图中,

我可以清楚地看到
我大脑的哪些部分过度活跃,

这里以红色显示;

机能减退,此处显示为蓝色;

和健康的行为阈值

,绿色区域,金发姑娘区,

这是我想去的地方。

事实上,我们可以分离
出我大脑

中与

我们在费舍尔研究中发现的浪漫调节相关的那些部分。

因此,Penijean 几次

用她所有的电极把我连接起来

,她解释说我
不需要做任何事情或思考任何事情。

我基本上
只需要保持静止

并保持清醒

并观看。

(竖琴和电颤琴的声音播放)

所以我做到了。

每次我的大脑运行
在那个健康的阈值时,

我都会听到一点竖琴
或电颤琴音乐。

我刚刚在我父亲的平板电视上看到我的大脑
以陀螺仪的速度旋转

这是违反直觉的。

她说学习
基本上是无意识的。

但后来我想到
了我学到的其他东西,

而没有积极地投入
我的意识。

当你骑自行车时,

我真的不知道
我的左小腿肌肉在做什么,

或者
当我向右摆动时我的背阔肌如何知道如何参与。

身体只是学习。

同样,巴甫洛夫的狗
可能不太了解

蛋白质结构
或铃声的波形,

但它们仍然会流口水,
因为身体与刺激配对。

完成课程,

回到 Cheryl
Olman 博士的 fMRI 机器

,我们重复了协议

,相同的图像

  • 前任的,控制的
    ,为了科学严谨,

Cheryl 和她的团队
不知道是谁 是谁,

所以他们无法
影响结果。

在她有
时间分析第二组数据后,

她把那张图片发给了我。

她说,

“Dude A 对你大脑的支配地位

似乎已经基本被根除。

我认为这是想要的结果,”
逗号,是的,问号。

(笑声

) 这
正是我们想要的结果。

最后,我允许
自己反省一下,

比如,我感觉如何?

在某种程度上,感觉就像

我一开始的感受
一样。

这不是“
一尘不染的永恒阳光”。

这哥们儿并不陌生。

但我有爱、嫉妒
、友善、吸引力和尊重,

以及
所有你在长期恋爱后积累的复杂感觉。

但感觉善意
已经浮出水面,

执着感
和不那么慷慨的

感觉并不那么存在。

在某种程度上,这听起来像是
一件小事,

这种感觉的重新排序,

但对我来说,这感觉像是最重要的事情。

就像,如果我告诉你,

“我要给你麻醉

,我还要
拔掉你的智齿”

,那么我做这两件事的顺序对你来说真的很重要

(笑声)

而且我也觉得

我有这种非常不寻常的
哲学特权

来理解爱。

实验室提议对我的尾状核进行 3D 打印。

我必须把爱握在手中。

(笑声

) 然后我把它弄成古铜色,

然后我把它做成了一条项链,
然后在我表演的商品桌上卖掉了。

(笑声)

(掌声

)然后,
在明尼阿波利斯的几个朋友的帮助下,

其中一个是贝基,

我们用它做了一个巨大的迪斯科舞会——

(笑声)

在我的大型演出中,它可以从天花板上掉下来。

而且我觉得我有
机会更好地理解爱,

甚至是强迫性的部分。

这不是一个整洁、对称的
情人节心。

它是身体的,它是系统的,

它是一对丑陋的公羊角,
深埋在你的颅骨深处

,当那个特别的男孩走过时,

它就会亮起来

,如果他也喜欢你
,你让彼此开心,

那么你就扇扇子 火焰。

如果他不这样做,

那么你就组建一个
神经科学家团队,

用武力扼杀他们。

(笑声)

谢谢。

(掌声)