I love collagens... and you should too

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i

love collagens and i think you should

too

because they are really the key to

understanding and treating

chronic diseases so what is a collagen

to start with i would like to introduce

you a little bit to the importance

and the biology of collagens

so what do you think of when i mention

collagen i think many of you may be

thinking about skin

products we want beautiful skin we want

beautiful collagens

but collagens are so much more than that

they are in fact

the central building block of all

biological structures just like

the eiffel tower where the beams

and the pillars are completely essential

for the structure of the eiffel tower

in fact collagens are the main building

block

of the body and type 1 collagen

is the main protein in the body

and these proteins are the small

building blocks that the entire body is

made of

in addition you might know that we are

made of more than

30 trillion cells and many organs

actually have more of the matter outside

the cells

as compared to the cells this

outside the cells this context is

referred to as

extracellular matrix and this matrix

is critically important for the function

and the behavior of those cells

in fact collagens are the central

component

of this matrix and the cells

they know how to behave because of this

matrix

in fact if we look at cells all cells

have the same dna

they have the same capacity to turn into

a bone cell a brain cell a skin cell or

muscle cell

and the reason why they know how to

behave and what to do

is because of the context because of the

matrix

that they are in so these cells

only know how to function and when to

live or when to die

because of the context they’re in in

fact there are

28 different types of fantastic

qualities

and they are all different in different

organs in different

parts of those organs and and i’m going

to take you through

a few of those so let’s take bone as an

example

type 1 collagen is the main component of

bone

and if we have a lesser quality of

collagen or if we

lose our collagen in bone the bones

break

so at least we need to take care of our

collagen

so i started my my research in bone

more than 20 years ago and this is

actually my

second publication more than 500 have

have come since then

but i didn’t think i realized the

importance of this when i

i first saw this publication in fact

on on this slide you see you see

completely

the same type of cells so the left cells

are on plastic and you can see the black

spots

and they are flat however when those

exact same cells

with the same dna are put in a collagen

gel

they start looking like completely

different cells

these cells look like the bone cells you

saw on a previous slide

and and they start to behave different

so very clearly

the control the form the function

and what these cells are doing so the

collagens control

cells and this is the first premise of

what i’m going to say today

that the matrix what is around the

collagens

they control cells the second part is

we regenerate think of your

body as a construction site there is

demolition and repair ongoing all the

time

in fact we regenerate

so much that the liver can regenerate

if from just 25 of

the remaining liver also

the bones we generate every 10 to 25

years

we actually get new bones and moreover

the intestines actually regenerate every

week

so this construction site where we have

demolition and repair ongoing every day

we need that to be in a perfect balance

if we just have a little bit more

demolition in some organs

we lose that open function and if we

have too much repair

then we have a different disease and

this balance

and this demolition and repair if that

is out of balance

is actually what causing chronic

diseases

in fact this demolition and repair is so

important

and ongoing all the time that you are

not the same self

you are today as you were 9 00 am this

monday morning

so when this balance is out of control

this leads to chronic diseases

chronic diseases are diseases that last

a lifetime and that needs to be managed

in fact

if by the age of over 65

then more than 80 percent of us will

have at least one chronic disease

and what is the common denominator of

these different

diseases it is the collagens have

changed

there are different amounts of collagen

in cancer diabetes

autoimmune diseases with destruction of

the of the bones and in liver diseases

we see in these different

diseases that the collagens have changed

and moreover

we see that the collagens are continuing

to change

for the worse and this means that the

tissue composition

and the coordinates of ireland’s balance

is altered

the repair balance is is disturbed

and this is the central concept

that we are constantly regenerating

and that regeneration leads to that

collagens are broken down

and they are built up and so in this

beautiful slide

you see cells on the top and you see the

structures of collagen below

and so when these tissues

are being remodeled then small collagen

fragments

are being released from the tissue into

the bloodstream

where we can use these as biomarkers

biomarkers are just a simple measurement

just as weight or blood pressure

but it is a objective measurement of a

biological process

and we researchers use them as

biomarkers and we use them every day

so interestingly if if

so many of us have or going to have a

chronic disease

how come we are so bad at treating them

and even curing them well i think it’s

because we are

we are looking at the tip of the iceberg

not what’s life beneath the cells are

only

a small part of what’s going on actually

there’s more matrix

than cells so it is essential to

understand chronic diseases

that we’re not just looking at the cells

but we look at the context

the matrix and the collagens and this is

the second premise

that we regenerate and this generate

collagen

fragments that tells us about the

processes that may lead to chronic

diseases

so let me give you three biological

examples

of what the collagen balance means for

patients

and how important this cottage imbalance

is for patients

and before we go there i want to take a

deep dive into how a collagen truly

looks

because they are unique and fantastic

molecules with a structure

as you can see that is unique for

collagens and they have this structure

so they are they are strong proteins

that are the essential components of all

tissues

so and this is where we have been wrong

all these years we just measured a

protein and collagen

we did not take care in separating the

processes

of tissue demolition and tissue repair

because when we look further at these

collagens it’s very obvious that there

are some fragments that are associated

with repair

and some fragments that are associated

with demolition

so to truly understand which

processes are driving to chronic

diseases

and which processes that we need to

interfere with

to reverse or even cure chronic diseases

or even regenerate organs we need to

understand

the cardiac and threatens

so i’m going to give you three examples

the first one is

bone i started in bone research more

than

24 years ago and and what you see up

here is

is a healthy bone and a bone with

osteoporosis

type one collagen is is the most

abundant protein in bone

and and what you can see is that the

collagens have been lost

in the in the bones that are going to be

fracturing

and so if if we lose collagens then the

bones are going to be fracturing

so we measured the collagen balance in

thousands

of of these individuals and what we

found was amazing

we found that these patients that were

going to have a fracture

and they were losing bone they had more

bone formation

not lower bone formation but more bone

formation

and even more so they had uh and so why

were they

why were they using bone then we

measured the degradation fragments

and it was because that they had even

higher degradation fragments that they

were losing bone

in fact all bone treatments today

are rebalancing this balance all bone

treatments today are either giving you

less bone destruction or more bone

formation

and re-bending in this important balance

so more according fragments we’ve been

looking

into cancer and this has been an amazing

experience

so the premise that we’re not just

measuring the protein

but specific fragments is in particular

true for cancer

so we looked at a collagen and we looked

at two different fragments

one fragment meant that the patients

were going

to die and another fragment of the same

protein

meant that the patients were going to

survive this means that had we just

measured the intact collagen

we would not have known was going to

happen so one fragment

of repair is associated with processes

that are going to make those patients

live and another fragment

is bad processes that are going to make

that patient die

that means that we can can look at those

collagen fragments and we can see

which treatments those patients are

going to be responding to

and this will have an enormous impact on

the life

of of cancer patients

so i want to go to chronic diseases

again

because this is the central premise

there are balances of demolition and

repair

and those balances are resulting in

different fragments of collagens

some that are important for regeneration

and some that are important for

destruction

and in fact in all chronic diseases in

liver disease

lung kidney skin we have seen

that these fragments are altered either

the balance of

repair is a little too much or there is

too much destruction

of tissues and in fact

for all these diseases for liver young

and kidney

we have seen that treatments that are

actually

truly efficacious are changing they call

it imbalance

so for those treatments not just to be

symptomatic

they need to change the call in balance

just as in bone

so this is the third premise really

that collagen fragments is like a

crystal

a biological crystal ball i mean if we

know the cardigan balance

of formation and degradation we can

actually see

if if we’re going to develop a chronic

disease we can see if we are reversing a

chronic disease

and we can see if if patients are

responding

that to a given treatment in chronic

diseases including cancer

so in the end i mean this constant

regeneration and repair means that

we collagen fragments are generated in

the body

all the time some for demolition and

some for repair

in fact during this talk i have i have

generated

more than a billion cells and who tells

the

the cells what to do the collagens do

and those cotton fragments formation and

degradation

allows us to look into the future and

see what’s going to happen

so before i end i just want to thank the

many phd students the postdocs

my directors and all the collaborators

that that through these

last 24 years have have helped us trying

to understand

the biology of collagens and how they

may

help us to change the life of patients

in a completely new way

may the collagens be with you

you

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喜欢胶原蛋白,我想你也应该喜欢,

因为它们真的是

理解和治疗

慢性疾病的关键,所以胶原蛋白是什么

开始的,我想向

你介绍一下

胶原蛋白的重要性和生物学,

所以 当我提到胶原蛋白时,你怎么看

埃菲尔铁塔的梁

和柱子

对于埃菲尔铁塔的结构来说是必不可少的

,事实上胶原蛋白是身体的主要组成

部分

,1 型胶原蛋白

是体内的主要蛋白质

,这些蛋白质是构成身体的小

组成部分 整个身体是

由另外你可能知道的,我们是

由超过

30 万亿个细胞组成的,许多器官

实际上有更多的物质。 de

细胞与细胞

外的细胞相比,这种情况

称为

细胞外基质,这种基质

对这些细胞的功能和行为至关重要

,事实上,胶原蛋白

是这种基质的核心成分,也是

它们所知道的细胞 由于这个矩阵如何表现

事实上如果我们观察细胞所有细胞

都具有相同的 DNA

它们具有相同的能力

变成骨细胞脑细胞皮肤细胞或

肌肉细胞

以及它们知道如何表现的原因

和 做什么

是因为它们所在的矩阵的上下文

,所以这些细胞

只知道如何运作以及何时

生存或何时死亡,

因为它们所处的上下文

实际上有

28 种不同类型的奇妙

品质

它们在这些

器官的不同

部位的不同器官中都是不同的,我

将带你了解

其中的一些,所以让我们以骨骼为例

1 型胶原蛋白是主要成分 t

骨骼

,如果我们的胶原蛋白质量较差,

或者如果

我们失去骨骼中的胶原蛋白,骨骼就会

断裂,

所以至少我们需要照顾好我们的

胶原蛋白,

所以我在 20 多年前就开始了我对骨骼的研究

,这是

实际上,从那时起,我的

第二份出版物已经发布了 500 多个,

但当我第一次看到这个出版物时,我认为我没有意识到这

一点的重要性,

实际上

在这张幻灯片上,你看到你看到

的细胞类型完全一样,所以左边的细胞

在塑料上,你可以看到黑

,它们是平的,但是当那些

具有相同 DNA 的完全相同的细胞被放入胶原蛋白

凝胶中时,

它们开始看起来像完全

不同的细胞,

这些细胞看起来就像你

在上一张幻灯片上看到的骨细胞

并且它们开始表现出不同的行为,

因此非常清楚

地控制了功能的形式

以及这些细胞在做什么,因此

胶原蛋白控制着

细胞,这是

我今天要说

的第一个前提 ix 胶原蛋白周围是什么

他们控制细胞 第二部分是

我们再生 把你的

身体想象成一个建筑工地

一直在进行拆除和修复

事实上我们再生的

如此之多以至于肝脏可以再生,

如果只剩下

25 个 肝脏 还有

我们每 10 到 25 年生成的骨头

我们实际上得到了新的骨头

而且肠子实际上每周都在再生

所以这个我们

每天都在进行拆除和修复

的建筑工地

如果我们只有

在某些器官上多一点拆除,

我们就会失去开放的功能,如果我们

有太多的修复,

那么我们就会患上不同的疾病,

这种平衡

和这种拆除和修复

如果失去

平衡实际上是导致慢性

疾病的原因

,实际上这种拆除 修复是如此

重要

和持续,以至于

今天的你和周一早上 9 点的你已经不一样了,

所以当 这种平衡失控了

这会导致

慢性病 慢性病是一种

持续一生的疾病,实际上需要加以管理

如果到 65 岁以上,

那么我们中超过 80% 的人

将至少患有一种慢性病,

以及什么 是

这些不同

疾病的共同点 它是胶原蛋白发生了

变化

在癌症 糖尿病

自身免疫性疾病与

骨骼破坏和肝脏疾病

中,胶原蛋白的含量不同 我们在这些不同的

疾病中看到胶原蛋白发生了变化

,而且

我们 看到胶原蛋白

继续恶化,这意味着爱尔兰平衡的

组织组成

和坐标

发生

了改变,修复平衡受到干扰

,这是

我们不断再生

的核心概念,再生导致

胶原蛋白 被分解

,它们被堆积起来,所以在这张

漂亮的幻灯片中,

你会看到顶部的单元格和 您会看到

下面的胶原蛋白结构

,因此当这些组织

被重塑时,小的胶原蛋白

碎片

会从组织中释放

到血液

中,我们可以将它们用作生物

标志物 生物标志物只是一个简单的测量值

,就像体重或血压一样,

但它是 对生物过程的客观测量

,我们的研究人员将它们用作

生物标志物,

如果我们中的许多人患有或将要患有慢性疾病,我们每天都使用它们非常有趣,

为什么我们在治疗它们

甚至治愈它们方面如此糟糕 我认为这是

因为

我们正在研究冰山一角,

而不是细胞下的生命只是正在

发生的事情的一小部分

实际上基质

比细胞多,因此

了解慢性疾病至关重要

,我们不仅仅是 查看细胞,

但我们查看

基质和胶原蛋白的背景,这是

我们再生的第二个前提,这会产生

胶原蛋白

碎片 nts 告诉我们

可能导致慢性疾病的过程,

所以让我给你三个生物学

例子

,说明胶原蛋白平衡对

患者

的意义以及这种小屋

失衡对患者的重要性

,在我们去那里之前,我想深入了解一下

了解胶原蛋白的真实

外观,

因为它们是独特而奇妙的

分子,其结构

如您所见,对于胶原蛋白来说是独一无二的,

并且它们具有这种结构,

因此它们是强效蛋白质

,是所有组织的基本成分,

所以这就是

这些年来我们一直错了,我们只是测量了一种

蛋白质和胶原蛋白,

我们没有注意区分

组织破坏和组织修复的过程,

因为当我们进一步观察这些

胶原蛋白时,很明显

有一些碎片

与修复有关

以及一些与拆除有关的片段,

以便真正了解哪些

过程导致慢性病

以及我们需要干预哪些过程

来逆转甚至治愈慢性疾病

甚至再生器官我们需要

了解心脏和威胁

所以我会给你三个

例子第一个是

骨骼我开始从事骨骼研究超过

24 年前,你在这里看到的

是健康的骨骼和患有

骨质疏松症的骨骼

1 型胶原

蛋白是骨骼中最丰富的蛋白质

,你可以看到

胶原蛋白已经

在骨骼中丢失了 将会

骨折

,所以如果我们失去胶原蛋白,那么

骨骼就会骨折,

所以我们测量了

数千

名这些人的胶原蛋白平衡,我们

发现令人惊讶的是,

我们发现这些患者

将会骨折

他们正在失去骨骼,他们有更多的

骨骼形成,

而不是更低的骨骼形成,而是更多的骨骼

形成

,甚至更多,所以他们有,所以

他们

为什么要使用骨骼然后我们

测量 降解碎片

,这是因为它们有

更高的降解碎片,它们

正在失去骨骼

,事实上,今天所有的骨骼治疗

都在重新平衡这种平衡,今天所有的骨骼

治疗要么给你

更少的骨骼破坏,要么更多的骨骼

形成

和重新弯曲 重要的平衡,

所以更多根据我们一直在

研究癌症的片段,这是一次了不起的

经历,

所以我们不仅

测量蛋白质,

而且测量特定片段的前提

对于癌症尤其如此,

所以我们研究了胶原蛋白,我们研究了

在两个不同的片段中,

一个片段意味着

患者将

要死亡,而同一蛋白质的另一个片段

意味着患者将

存活这意味着如果我们刚刚

测量了完整的胶原蛋白,

我们将不会知道会

发生这样一个

修复片段与

将使这些患者

存活的过程有关,而另一个片段

是坏的 会

导致患者死亡的

过程意味着我们可以查看那些

胶原蛋白碎片,我们可以看到

这些患者将对哪些治疗

产生反应

,这将对癌症患者的生活产生巨大影响,

所以我 想

再次研究慢性病,

因为这是核心前提,

存在破坏和

修复

的平衡,这些平衡导致

不同的胶原蛋白碎片,

有些对再生很重要

,有些对破坏很重要

,实际上在所有慢性病中 在

肝病

肺肾皮肤中,我们已经

看到这些碎片被改变,要么

修复平衡有点过多,要么

组织破坏过多,事实上,

对于所有这些肝病

和肾病,

我们已经看到治疗

实际上是

真正有效的 正在改变 他们

称之为不平衡

所以对于那些治疗不仅仅是他们需要的

症状 d 像在骨骼中一样改变平衡的调用,

所以这是第三个

前提,胶原蛋白碎片就像一个

水晶,

一个生物水晶球我的意思是,如果我们

知道

形成和降解的羊毛衫平衡,我们实际上可以

看看我们是否 会患上慢性病,

我们可以看看我们是否正在逆转

慢性病

,我们可以看看患者是否

包括癌症在内的慢性病的特定治疗有反应,

所以最后我的意思是这种不断的

再生和修复意味着

我们胶原蛋白 身体一直在产生碎片,

一些用于拆除,

一些用于

修复事实上在这次谈话中我已经

产生

了超过十亿个细胞,谁

告诉细胞胶原蛋白做什么

以及那些棉花碎片的形成和

降解

让我们展望未来,

看看会发生什么,

所以在我结束之前,我只想感谢

许多博士生、博士后、

我的董事和所有的合作伙伴 演说家

,在

过去的 24 年里,他们帮助我们

试图了解

胶原蛋白的生物学,以及它们如何

帮助我们以全新的方式改变患者的生活,

愿胶原蛋白与您同