Can we edit memories Amy Milton

Transcriber: Joseph Geni
Reviewer: Camille Martínez

Memory is such an everyday thing
that we almost take it for granted.

We all remember what we had
for breakfast this morning

or what we did last weekend.

It’s only when memory starts to fail

that we appreciate just how amazing it is

and how much we allow
our past experiences to define us.

But memory is not always a good thing.

As the American poet and clergyman
John Lancaster Spalding once said,

“As memory may be a paradise
from which we cannot be driven,

it may also be a hell
from which we cannot escape.”

Many of us experience
chapters of our lives

that we would prefer
to never have happened.

It is estimated that
nearly 90 percent of us

will experience some sort of
traumatic event during our lifetimes.

Many of us will suffer acutely
following these events and then recover,

maybe even become better people
because of those experiences.

But some events
are so extreme that many –

up to half of those who survive
sexual violence, for example –

will go on to develop
post-traumatic stress disorder,

or PTSD.

PTSD is a debilitating
mental health condition

characterized by symptoms
such as intense fear and anxiety

and flashbacks of the traumatic event.

These symptoms have a huge impact
on a person’s quality of life

and are often triggered
by particular situations

or cues in that person’s environment.

The responses to those cues may have been
adaptive when they were first learned –

fear and diving for cover
in a war zone, for example –

but in PTSD,

they continue to control behavior
when it’s no longer appropriate.

If a combat veteran returns home
and is diving for cover

when he or she hears a car backfiring

or can’t leave their own home
because of intense anxiety,

then the responses
to those cues, those memories,

have become what we would
refer to as maladaptive.

In this way, we can think of PTSD
as being a disorder of maladaptive memory.

Now, I should stop myself here,

because I’m talking about memory
as if it’s a single thing.

It isn’t.

There are many different types of memory,

and these depend upon different circuits
and regions within the brain.

As you can see, there are two
major distinctions in our types of memory.

There are those memories
that we’re consciously aware of,

where we know we know

and that we can pass on in words.

This would include memories
for facts and events.

Because we can declare these memories,

we refer to these as declarative memories.

The other type of memory
is non-declarative.

These are memories where we often
don’t have conscious access

to the content of those memories

and that we can’t pass on in words.

The classic example
of a non-declarative memory

is the motor skill for riding a bike.

Now, this being Cambridge,
the odds are that you can ride a bike.

You know what you’re doing on two wheels.

But if I asked you to write me
a list of instructions

that would teach me how to ride a bike,

as my four-year-old son did
when we bought him a bike

for his last birthday,

you would really struggle to do that.

How should you sit on the bike
so you’re balanced?

How fast do you need to pedal
so you’re stable?

If a gust of wind comes at you,

which muscles should you tense
and by how much

so that you don’t get blown off?

I’ll be staggered if you can give
the answers to those questions.

But if you can ride a bike,
you do have the answers,

you’re just not consciously aware of them.

Getting back to PTSD,

another type of non-declarative memory

is emotional memory.

Now, this has a specific
meaning in psychology

and refers to our ability
to learn about cues in our environment

and their emotional
and motivational significance.

What do I mean by that?

Well, think of a cue
like the smell of baking bread,

or a more abstract cue
like a 20-pound note.

Because these cues have been pegged
with good things in the past,

we like them and we approach them.

Other cues, like the buzzing of a wasp,
elicit very negative emotions

and quite dramatic
avoidance behavior in some people.

Now, I hate wasps.

I can tell you that fact.

But what I can’t give you
are the non-declarative emotional memories

for how I react
when there’s a wasp nearby.

I can’t give you the racing heart,

the sweaty palms,
that sense of rising panic.

I can describe them to you,

but I can’t give them to you.

Now, importantly,
from the perspective of PTSD,

stress has very different effects on
declarative and non-declarative memories

and the brain circuits
and regions supporting them.

Emotional memory is supported
by a small almond-shaped structure

called the amygdala

and its connections.

Declarative memory, especially the what,
where and when of event memory,

is supported by a seahorse-shaped
region of the brain

called the hippocampus.

The extreme levels of stress
experienced during trauma

have very different effects
on these two structures.

As you can see, as you increase
a person’s level of stress

from not stressful to slightly stressful,

the hippocampus,

acting to support the event memory,

increases in its activity

and works better to support
the storage of that declarative memory.

But as you increase to moderately
stressful, intensely stressful

and then extremely stressful,
as would be found in trauma,

the hippocampus
effectively shuts down.

This means that under
the high levels of stress hormones

that are experienced
during trauma,

we are not storing the details,

the specific details
of what, where and when.

Now, while stress is doing that
to the hippocampus,

look at what it does to the amygdala,

that structure important
for the emotional, non-declarative memory.

Its activity gets stronger and stronger.

So what this leaves
us with in PTSD

is an overly strong emotional –
in this case fear – memory

that is not tied
to a specific time or place,

because the hippocampus
is not storing what, where and when.

In this way, these cues
can control behavior

when it’s no longer appropriate,

and that’s how
they become maladaptive.

So if we know that PTSD
is due to maladaptive memories,

can we use that knowledge
to improve treatment outcomes

for patients with PTSD?

A radical new approach being developed
to treat post-traumatic stress disorder

aims to destroy those maladaptive
emotional memories

that underlie the disorder.

This approach has only
been considered a possibility

because of the profound changes
in our understanding of memory

in recent years.

Traditionally, it was thought
that making a memory

was like writing in a notebook in pen:

once the ink had dried,
you couldn’t change the information.

It was thought that all
those structural changes

that happen in the brain
to support the storage of memory

were finished within about six hours,

and after that, they were permanent.

This is known as the consolidation view.

However, more recent research suggests
that making a memory

is actually more like writing
in a word processor.

We initially make the memory
and then we save it or store it.

But under the right conditions,
we can edit that memory.

This reconsolidation view suggests
that those structural changes

that happen in the brain to support memory

can be undone,

even for old memories.

Now, this editing process
isn’t happening all the time.

It only happens under
very specific conditions

of memory retrieval.

So let’s consider memory retrieval
as being recalling the memory

or, like, opening the file.

Quite often, we are simply
retrieving the memory.

We’re opening the file as read-only.

But under the right conditions,

we can open that file in edit mode,

and then we can change the information.

In theory, we could delete
the content of that file,

and when we press save,

that is how the file – the memory –

persists.

Not only does this reconsolidation view

allow us to account for some
of the quirks of memory,

like how we all sometimes
misremember the past,

it also gives us a way to destroy
those maladaptive fear memories

that underlie PTSD.

All we would need would be two things:

a way of making the memory unstable –
opening that file in edit mode –

and a way to delete the information.

We’ve made the most progress

with working out
how to delete the information.

It was found fairly early on

that a drug widely prescribed
to control blood pressure in humans –

a beta-blocker
called Propranolol –

could be used to prevent
the reconsolidation

of fear memories in rats.

If Propranolol was given
while the memory was in edit mode,

rats behaved as if they were no longer
afraid of a frightening trigger cue.

It was as if they had never learned
to be afraid of that cue.

And this was with a drug
that was safe for use in humans.

Now, not long after that,

it was shown that Propranolol could
destroy fear memories in humans as well,

but critically, it only works
if the memory is in edit mode.

Now, that study was with
healthy human volunteers,

but it’s important because it shows
that the rat findings

can be extended to humans
and ultimately, to human patients.

And with humans,

you can test whether destroying
the non-declarative emotional memory

does anything to
the declarative event memory.

And this is really interesting.

Even though people
who were given Propranolol

while the memory was in edit mode

were no longer afraid
of that frightening trigger cue,

they could still describe the relationship

between the cue
and the frightening outcome.

It was as if they knew
they should be afraid,

and yet they weren’t.

This suggests that Propranolol
can selectively target

the non-declarative emotional memory

but leave the declarative
event memory intact.

But critically, Propranolol can only have
any effect on the memory

if it’s in edit mode.

So how do we make a memory unstable?

How do we get it into edit mode?

Well, my own lab has done
quite a lot of work on this.

We know that it depends on introducing
some but not too much new information

to be incorporated into the memory.

We know about the different
chemicals the brain uses

to signal that a memory
should be updated

and the file edited.

Now, our work is mostly in rats,

but other labs have found the same factors
allow memories to be edited in humans,

even maladaptive memories
like those underlying PTSD.

In fact, a number of labs
in several different countries

have begun small-scale clinical trials
of these memory-destroying treatments

for PTSD

and have found really promising results.

Now, these studies need replication
on a larger scale,

but they show the promise
of these memory-destroying treatments

for PTSD.

Maybe trauma memories do not need to be
the hell from which we cannot escape.

Now, although this memory-destroying
approach holds great promise,

that’s not to say
that it’s straightforward

or without controversy.

Is it ethical to destroy memories?

What about things
like eyewitness testimony?

What if you can’t give someone Propranolol

because it would interfere
with other medicines that they’re taking?

Well, with respect to ethics
and eyewitness testimony,

I would say the important
point to remember

is the finding from that human study.

Because Propranolol is only acting
on the non-declarative emotional memory,

it seems unlikely that it would affect
eyewitness testimony,

which is based on declarative memory.

Essentially, what these
memory-destroying treatments

are aiming to do

is to reduce the emotional memory,

not get rid of the trauma
memory altogether.

This should make the responses
of those with PTSD

more like those who have
been through trauma

and not developed PTSD

than people who have never
experienced trauma in the first place.

I think that most people would find that
more ethically acceptable

than a treatment that aimed
to create some sort of spotless mind.

What about Propranolol?

You can’t give Propranolol to everyone,

and not everyone wants to take drugs
to treat mental health conditions.

Well, here Tetris could be useful.

Yes, Tetris.

Working with clinical collaborators,

we’ve been looking at whether
behavioral interventions

can also interfere with
the reconsolidation of memories.

Now, how would that work?

Well, we know that
it’s basically impossible

to do two tasks at the same time

if they both depend on
the same brain region for processing.

Think trying to sing along to the radio

while you’re trying to compose an email.

The processing for one
interferes with the other.

Well, it’s the same when
you retrieve a memory,

especially in edit mode.

If we take a highly visual symptom
like flashbacks in PTSD

and get people to recall
the memory in edit mode

and then get them to do
a highly engaging visual task

like playing Tetris,

it should be possible to introduce
so much interfering information

into that memory

that it essentially becomes meaningless.

That’s the theory,

and it’s supported by data
from healthy human volunteers.

Now, our volunteers watched
highly unpleasant films –

so, think eye surgery,
road traffic safety adverts,

Scorsese’s “The Big Shave.”

These trauma films produce
something like flashbacks

in healthy volunteers
for about a week after viewing them.

We found that getting people
to recall those memories,

the worst moments
of those unpleasant films,

and playing Tetris at the same time,

massively reduced the frequency
of the flashbacks.

And again: the memory had to be
in edit mode for that to work.

Now, my collaborators have since
taken this to clinical populations.

They’ve tested this in survivors
of road traffic accidents

and mothers who’ve had
emergency Caesarean sections,

both types of trauma
that frequently lead to PTSD,

and they found really promising
reductions in symptoms

in both of those clinical cases.

So although there is still much to learn
and procedures to optimize,

these memory-destroying treatments
hold great promise

for the treatment
of mental health disorders

like PTSD.

Maybe trauma memories do not need
to be a hell from which we cannot escape.

I believe that this approach

should allow those who want to

to turn the page
on chapters of their lives

that they would prefer
to never have experienced,

and so improve our mental health.

Thank you.

(Applause)

抄写员:Joseph Geni
审稿人:Camille Martínez

记忆是如此日常
,以至于我们几乎认为它是理所当然的。

我们都记得我们
今天早上吃的早餐

或上周末做了什么。

只有当记忆开始失败时

,我们才会欣赏它的神奇之处

以及我们让
过去的经历来定义我们的程度。

但记忆并不总是一件好事。

正如美国诗人和牧师
约翰·兰卡斯特·斯伯丁(John Lancaster Spalding)曾经说过的那样:

“记忆可能是
我们无法摆脱的天堂,

也可能是
我们无法逃脱的地狱。”

我们中的许多人都经历

过我们
宁愿从未发生过的生活章节。

据估计,
近 90% 的人

在我们的一生中都会经历某种创伤事件。

我们中的许多人会
在这些事件之后遭受严重的痛苦,然后恢复,

甚至可能
因为这些经历而成为更好的人。

但有些事件
是如此极端,以至于许多人——例如,

多达一半的
性暴力幸存者——

将继续发展
为创伤后应激障碍

或 PTSD。

创伤后应激障碍是一种使人衰弱的
心理健康状况,

其特征
是强烈的恐惧和焦虑

以及创伤事件的闪回等症状。

这些症状
对一个人的生活质量产生巨大影响,

并且通常

该人环境中的特定情况或线索触发。

对这些线索的反应可能
在刚开始学习时就具有适应性——例如,

恐惧和
在战区潜入掩护——

但在 PTSD 中,当不再合适时,

它们会继续控制行为

如果一名战斗老兵回到家
中,

当他或她听到汽车回火

或由于极度焦虑而无法离开自己的家时,他或她正在潜水寻找掩护

那么
对这些线索的反应,那些记忆,

就变成了我们
所说的 适应不良。

通过这种方式,我们可以将 PTSD
视为一种适应不良的记忆障碍。

现在,我应该在这里停下来,

因为我在谈论记忆
,好像它是一个单一的东西。

它不是。

有许多不同类型的记忆

,它们取决于大脑内不同的回路
和区域。

如您所见,
我们的记忆类型有两个主要区别。

有些记忆
是我们有意识地意识到的

,我们知道我们知道

并且我们可以用文字传递下去。

这将包括
对事实和事件的记忆。

因为我们可以声明这些记忆,所以

我们将它们称为声明性记忆。

另一种类型的内存
是非声明性的。

在这些记忆中,我们通常
无法有意识地

访问这些记忆的内容,

也无法用语言传递下去。

非陈述性记忆的典型例子

是骑自行车的运动技能。

现在,这里是
剑桥,你很有可能会骑自行车。

你知道你在两个轮子上做什么。

但是,如果我让你给我写
一份指导清单

,教我如何骑自行车,

就像我四岁的儿子

上个生日那天给他买了一辆自行车时那样,

你真的很难做到。

你应该如何坐在自行车上才能
保持平衡?

您需要多快踩踏板
才能保持稳定?

如果一阵风吹到你身上,

你应该拉紧哪些肌肉
,拉

多少才能不被吹走?

如果你能给出
这些问题的答案,我会很震惊。

但是,如果您会骑自行车,
那么您确实有答案,

只是您没有自觉地意识到它们。

回到 PTSD,

另一种类型的非陈述性记忆

是情绪记忆。

现在,这
在心理学中具有特定的含义

,指的
是我们了解环境中的线索

及其情感
和动机意义的能力。

我的意思是什么?

好吧,想想像
烤面包的味道这样的暗示,

或者
像 20 磅纸币这样更抽象的暗示。

因为这些暗示
过去与美好事物挂钩,所以

我们喜欢它们并接近它们。

其他线索,如黄蜂的嗡嗡声,会在某些人中
引发非常消极的情绪

和相当戏剧性的
回避行为。

现在,我讨厌黄蜂。

我可以告诉你这个事实。

但我不能给你的

当附近有一只黄蜂时我如何反应的非陈述性情感记忆。

我不能给你那种心跳

加速、手心出汗、
那种日益恐慌的感觉。

我可以向你描述它们,

但我不能把它们给你。

现在,重要的是,
从 PTSD 的角度来看,

压力对
陈述性和非陈述性记忆

以及支持它们的大脑回路
和区域有非常不同的影响。

情绪记忆
由称为杏仁核的小杏仁状结构

及其连接提供支持。

陈述性记忆,尤其是事件记忆的内容、
地点和时间

,由称为海马体的大脑海马状区域支持

创伤期间经历的极端压力水平对这两种结构

有非常不同的影响

正如你所看到的,当你将
一个人的压力水平

从无压力增加到轻微压力时,

海马体支持事件记忆,

其活动增加,

并更好地支持
陈述性记忆的存储。

但是当你增加到中等
压力、强烈压力

,然后是极度压力时,
就像在创伤中发现的那样

,海马体
有效地关闭了。

这意味着在创伤期间经历
的高水平压力荷尔蒙下

我们不会存储细节,


关于什么、何时何地的具体细节。

现在,当压力
对海马体产生影响时,

看看它对杏仁核的影响,杏仁核对

情绪性、非陈述性记忆很重要。

它的活性越来越强。

所以这
给我们留下的创伤后应激障碍

是一种过于强烈的情绪——
在这种情况下是恐惧——

与特定时间或地点无关的记忆,

因为海马
体不存储什么、何时何地。

通过这种方式,这些线索
可以

在不再合适时控制行为,这就是

它们变得适应不良的原因。

因此,如果我们知道 PTSD
是由适应不良的记忆引起的,

我们是否可以利用这些知识
来改善

PTSD 患者的治疗结果?

正在开发一种治疗创伤后应激障碍的激进新方法,

旨在摧毁构成该障碍的那些适应不良的
情绪记忆

由于近年来
我们对记忆的理解发生了深刻的变化,这种方法才被认为是一种可能性

传统上,人们
认为制作

记忆就像用钢笔在笔记本上写字:

一旦墨水干了,
就无法更改信息。

人们认为,

大脑中发生的所有
支持记忆存储的结构变化

都在大约六个小时内完成

,之后它们就成为永久性的。

这称为合并视图。

然而,最近的研究表明
,制作

记忆实际上更像是
在文字处理器中书写。

我们最初制作内存
,然后保存或存储它。

但在合适的条件下,
我们可以编辑那段记忆。

这种重新整合的观点
表明,

大脑中发生的那些支持记忆的结构变化

可以被撤销,

即使是旧记忆也是如此。

现在,这种编辑过程
并非一直都在发生。

它只发生在
非常特定

的记忆检索条件下。

因此,让我们将内存检索
视为调用内存

或打开文件。

很多时候,我们只是在
检索记忆。

我们以只读方式打开文件。

但在适当的条件下,

我们可以在编辑模式下打开该文件,

然后我们可以更改信息。

理论上,我们可以删除
那个文件的内容

,当我们按下保存时

,文件——内存——就是这样保存

下来的。

这种重新整合的观点不仅

让我们能够解释
记忆的一些怪癖,

比如我们有时如何错误地
记住过去,

它还为我们提供了一种方法来摧毁
那些构成 PTSD 基础的适应不良的恐惧记忆

我们只需要两件事:

一种使内存不稳定的方法——
在编辑模式下打开该文件——

以及一种删除信息的方法。

我们在研究如何删除信息方面取得了最大的进展

人们很早就

发现,一种广泛
用于控制人类血压的药物——

一种叫做普萘洛尔的β受体阻滞剂
——

可用于防止

大鼠恐惧记忆的重新巩固。

如果
在记忆处于编辑模式时给予普萘洛尔,

老鼠的行为就好像它们不再
害怕可怕的触发线索。

就好像他们从来没有
学会害怕那个暗示。

这是一种
对人类安全使用的药物。

现在,不久之后

,证明普萘洛尔也可以
破坏人类的恐惧记忆,

但关键的是,它
只有在记忆处于编辑模式时才有效。

现在,这项研究是针对
健康的人类志愿者进行的,

但这很重要,因为它
表明大鼠的研究结果

可以扩展到人类,
并最终扩展到人类患者。

对于人类,

您可以测试
破坏非陈述性情绪记忆

是否
对陈述性事件记忆有任何影响。

这真的很有趣。

即使

在记忆处于编辑模式时服用普萘洛尔的

人不再
害怕那个可怕的触发线索,

他们仍然可以描述

线索
与可怕结果之间的关系。

就好像他们知道
他们应该害怕

,但事实并非如此。

这表明普萘洛尔
可以选择性地

针对非陈述性情绪记忆,

但保持陈述性
事件记忆完整。

但至关重要的是,普萘洛尔只有在编辑模式下才能
对记忆产生任何影响

那么我们如何让内存变得不稳定呢?

我们如何让它进入编辑模式?

嗯,我自己的实验室
在这方面做了很多工作。

我们知道,这取决于引入
一些但不是太多的新信息

来合并到内存中。

我们知道大脑使用不同的
化学物质

来表示应该更新记忆

和编辑文件。

现在,我们的工作主要在老鼠身上进行,

但其他实验室发现相同的因素
可以在人类中编辑记忆,

甚至是
像那些潜在的 PTSD 那样的适应不良记忆。

事实上,
几个不同国家的许多实验室

已经开始
对这些破坏记忆的

创伤后应激障碍治疗进行小规模临床试验,

并发现了非常有希望的结果。

现在,这些
研究需要更大规模的复制,

但它们显示
了这些破坏记忆的治疗

对 PTSD 的前景。

也许创伤记忆不需要成为
我们无法逃脱的地狱。

现在,虽然这种破坏记忆的
方法很有希望,

但这并不是
说它是直截了当的

或没有争议的。

破坏记忆合乎道德吗?

目击者证词之类的呢?

如果你不能给某人普萘洛尔,

因为它会干扰
他们正在服用的其他药物怎么办?

好吧,关于道德
和目击者证词,

我想说
要记住的重要一点

是人类研究的发现。

由于普萘洛尔仅作用
于非陈述性情绪记忆,

因此它似乎不太可能影响

基于陈述性记忆的目击者证词。

从本质上讲,这些
破坏记忆的治疗

旨在减少情绪记忆,

而不是完全摆脱创伤
记忆。

这应该使
那些患有 PTSD 的人的反应

更像是那些
经历过创伤但

没有发展成 PTSD

的人,而不是那些从未
经历过创伤的人。

我认为大多数人会发现这

旨在创造某种一尘不染的心灵的治疗在道德上更容易接受。

普萘洛尔怎么样?

你不能给每个

人服用普萘洛尔,也不是每个人都想服用药物
来治疗心理健康问题。

好吧,这里俄罗斯方块可能很有用。

是的,俄罗斯方块。

与临床合作者合作,

我们一直在研究
行为干预是否

也会干扰
记忆的重新巩固。

现在,这将如何运作?

好吧,我们知道,

如果两个任务

都依赖
于同一个大脑区域进行处理,那么基本上不可能同时执行两项任务。

想一想

在您尝试撰写电子邮件时尝试对着收音机唱歌。

一个的处理会
干扰另一个。

好吧,当
您检索内存时也是如此,

尤其是在编辑模式下。

如果我们采取
像 PTSD 中的闪回这样的高度视觉症状

,让人们
在编辑模式下回忆记忆

,然后让他们做
一个高度引人入胜的视觉任务,

比如玩俄罗斯方块,

那么应该有可能在记忆中引入
如此多的干扰信息

, 它基本上变得毫无意义。

这就是理论

,它得到了
来自健康人类志愿者的数据的支持。

现在,我们的志愿者观看了
非常不愉快的电影——

所以,想想眼科手术、
道路交通安全广告、

斯科塞斯的“大胡子”。

这些创伤影片

在健康
志愿者观看后大约一周内会产生类似闪回的东西。

我们发现,让
人们回忆起那些回忆,

那些不愉快的电影中最糟糕的时刻,

同时玩俄罗斯方块,

大大减少
了闪回的频率。

再说一遍:内存必须
处于编辑模式才能工作。

现在,我的合作者已经
将其应用于临床人群。

他们已经在
道路交通事故幸存者


紧急剖腹产的母亲身上进行了测试,

这两种类型的创伤
都经常导致 PTSD

,他们发现

这两种临床病例的症状确实有希望减少。

因此,尽管仍有许多需要学习
和优化的程序,但

这些破坏记忆的治疗方法

对于
治疗 PTSD 等精神疾病具有很大的前景

也许创伤记忆
不需要成为我们无法逃脱的地狱。

我相信这种方法

应该允许那些

想要翻开他们宁愿从未经历过
的生活章节的人

,从而改善我们的心理健康。

谢谢你。

(掌声)