A radical experiment in empathy Sam Richards

my students often ask me what is

sociology and I tell them it’s the study

of the way in which human beings are

shaped by things that they don’t see and

they say so how can I be a sociologist

how can I understand those invisible

forces and I say empathy start with

empathy it all begins with empathy take

yourself out of your shoes put yourself

into the shoes of another person here

I’ll give you an example so I imagine my

life if a hundred years ago China had

been the most powerful nation in the

world and they came to the United States

in search of coal and they found it and

in fact they found lots of it right here

and pretty soon they began shipping that

coal ton by ton railcar by railcar

boatload by boatload back to China and

elsewhere around the world

and they got fabulously wealthy in doing

so in they both beautiful cities all

powered on that coal and back here in

the United States we saw economic

despair deprivation this is what I saw I

saw people struggling to get by not

knowing what was what and what was next

and then I asked myself a question I say

how is it possible that we could be so

poor here in the United States because

the coal is such a wealthy resources so

much money and I realize because the

Chinese ingratiate themselves with a

small ruling class here in the United

States who stole all of that money and

all of that wealth for themselves and

the rest of us the vast majority of us

struggle to get by and the Chinese gave

the small ruling elite loads of military

weapons and sophisticated technology in

order to ensure that people like me

would not speak out against this

relationship

does this sound familiar and they did

things like trained Americans to help

protect the coal and everywhere were

symbols of the Chinese everywhere a

constant reminder and back in China will

they say in China nothing don’t talk

about us don’t look at the coal if you

ask him they’ll say well you know the

coal we need the coal I mean come on I’m

not gonna turn down my thermostat

you can’t expect that and so I get angry

and I get pissed as do lots of average

people and we fight back and it gets

really ugly and the Chinese respond in a

very ugly way and before we know it

they’ve sent in the tanks and they send

in the troops and lots of people are

dying and it’s a very very difficult

situation

can you imagine what you would feel if

you were in my shoes can you imagine

walking out of this building and seeing

a tank sitting out there or a truck full

of soldiers it’s just imagine what you

would feel because you know why they’re

here and you know what they’re doing

here you just feel the anger and you

feel the fear okay if you can that’s

empathy that’s empathy you’ve left your

shoes and you stood in mine and you

gotta feel that okay so that’s the warm

up that’s the warm up now we’re gonna

have the real radical experiment and so

for the remainder of my talk what I want

you to do is put yourself in the shoes

of an ordinary Arab Muslim living in the

Middle East in particular in Iraq and so

to help you perhaps you’re a member of

this middle-class family in Baghdad and

what you want is the best for your kids

you run your kids to have a better life

and you watch the news you pay attention

you read the newspaper you go down to

the coffee shop with your friends and

you read the newspapers from around the

world and some

you even watch satellite CNN from the

United States so you have a sense of

what the Americans are thinking but

really you just want a better life for

yourself that’s what you want your Arab

Muslim living in Iraq you want a better

life for yourself so here let me help

you let me help you with some things

that you might be thinking number one

this incursion into your land these past

20 years and before the reason anyone is

interested in your land in particularly

the United States its oil when it’s all

about oil you know that everybody knows

that people here back in the United

States know it’s about oil right it’s

because somebody else has a design for

your resource

it’s your resource it’s not somebody

else’s right it’s your land

it’s your resource somebody else has to

design for it and you know why they have

a design you know why they have their

their eyes set on it because they have

an entire economic system that’s

dependent on that oil the foreign oil

oil from other parts of the world that

they don’t own and what else do you

think about these people well the

Americans the rich come on they live in

big houses they have big cars they all

have blond hair blue eyes they’re happy

you think that it’s not true of course

but that’s the media impression that’s

like what you get and they have big

cities and the cities are all dependent

on oil and back home what do you see

poverty despair struggle look you don’t

live in a wealthy country I mean this is

a rock right you don’t live in this is

what you see you see people struggling

to get by I mean it’s not easy you see a

lot of poverty and you feel something

about this these people have designs for

your resource and this is what you see

something else you see that you talk

about Americans don’t talk about this

but you do there’s this thing this this

militarization of the world in its

centered right in the United States in

the United States is responsible for

almost one half of the world’s military

spending four percent of the world’s

population and you feel it you see it

every day

it’s part of your life and you mean you

talk about it with your friends you read

about it

right and back when Saddam Hussein was

in power the Americans didn’t care about

his crimes when he was gassing the Kurds

and guessing Iran they didn’t care about

it when oil was at stake somehow

suddenly things mattered and what you

see something else the United States the

hub of democracy around the world they

don’t seem to really be supporting

democratic countries all around the

world there are a lot of countries

oil-producing countries that aren’t very

democratic but supported by the United

States odd oh these incursions these two

wars the ten years of sanctions the

eight years of occupation the insurgency

that’s been unleashed on your people the

tens about the hundreds of thousands of

civilian deaths oh because of oil you

can’t help but think that you talk about

it it’s in the forefront of your mind

always you say how is that possible

in this man he’s every man your

grandfather your uncle your father your

son your neighbor your professor your

student once a life happiness and joy

and suddenly pain and sorrow everyone in

your country has been touched by the

violence the bloodshed the pain the

horror everybody not a single person in

your country has not been touched

so here but there’s something else

there’s something else about these these

people these these Americans who are

there there’s something else about them

that you see they don’t see themselves

and what do you see the Christians

they’re Christians they worship the

Christian God they have crosses they

carry Bibles their Bibles have a little

insignia that says US Army on them and

their leaders their leaders before they

send

our sons and daughters off to war in

your country and you know the reason

before they send them off they get to a

Christian Church and they pray to their

Christian God and they ask for

protection and guidance from that God

why well obviously

so that if when people die in the war

they are Muslims they are Iraqis there

are Americans

you know what Americans did I protect

our troops and you feel something about

that of course you do

and they do wonderful things you read

about it you hear but they’re there to

build schools and help people and that’s

what they want to do they do wonderful

things but they also do the bad things

and you can’t tell the difference

in this guy you got a guy like

Lieutenant General William Boykin I mean

here’s a guy who says that your God is a

false God your gods an idol his God is a

true God the solution for the problem in

the Middle East according kim is to

convert you all to christianity just get

rich in and you know that americans

don’t read about this guy they don’t

know anything about him but you do you

pass it around you’ve has his words

around I mean this is serious you’re

afraid he was one of the leading

commanders in the second invasion of

Iraq and you’re thinking we got if this

guy is saying that then all the soldiers

must be saying that in this word here

George Bush called this war a crusade

man the Americans here say a crusade

whatever I don’t know what they mean you

know what it means it’s a holy war

against Muslims look invade subdue them

take the resources if they won’t submit

kill them that’s what this is about and

you’re thinking my god these Christians

are coming to kill us this is

frightening you feel frightened of

course you feel frightened in this man

Terry Jones I mean here’s a guy wants to

burn Korans right in Americans uh what

he’s a knucklehead he’s a former hotel

manager he’s got three dozen members of

his church they laugh him off you don’t

laugh him off because in the context of

everything else all the pieces fit I

mean of course this is how Americans

stick it so people all over the Middle

East not just in your country are

protesting like this is he was a bird

Quran is our holy book these Christians

who are these Christians they’re so evil

they’re so mean I mean this is what

they’re about

this is what you’re thinking as an Arab

Muslim as an Iraqi of course you’re

going to think this and then your cousin

says hey cuz check out this website you

got to see this

this Bible boot camp these Christians

are nuts they’re training their little

kids to be soldiers for Jesus and they

take these little kids and they run them

through these things they teach them how

to say sir yes sir and things like

grenade toss and weapons care and

maintenance and go to the website says

US Army right on it I mean these

Christians they’re nuts how would they

do this to their little kids and you’re

reading this website and of course

Christians back in the United States or

anybody says ah this is some little tiny

Church in the middle of nowhere you

don’t know that for you this is like all

Christians like they’re all it’s all

over the web Bible boot camp and look at

this they even teach their kids they

train them in the same way the US

Marines train isn’t that interesting and

it scares you and it frightens you so

these guys you see them you see I Sam

Richards I know who these guys are

they’re my students my friends I mean I

know what they’re thinking you don’t

know when you see them there’s something

else there’s something else that’s what

they are to you we don’t see it that way

in the United States well you see it

that way right so here of course you got

it wrong you’re generalizing it’s wrong

you don’t understand the Americans it’s

not a Christian invasion we’re not just

there for oil were there for lots of

reasons I mean you have it wrong you

missed it and of course most of you

don’t support the insurgency you don’t

support killing Americans people you

don’t support the terrorists of course

you don’t

very few people do but something you do

right and this is a perspective ok so

now here’s what we’re going to do step

outside of your shoes that you’re in

right now and step back into your normal

shoes so everyone’s back in the room ok

now here comes the radical experiment so

we’re all back home this photo this

woman man I feel her

I feel her she’s my sister my wife my

cousin my neighbor she’s anybody to me

these guys standing there everybody in

the photo I feel this photo man okay so

here’s what I want you to do let’s go

back to my first example of the Chinese

okay so I want you to go there so it’s

all about Cole and the Chinese are here

in the United States and what I want you

to do is picture her as a Chinese woman

receiving a Chinese flag because her

loved one has died in America in the

Cole uprising and the soldiers are

Chinese and everybody else has Chinese

okay

as an American how do you feel about

this picture what do you think about

that scene okay try this bring it back

this is the scene here it’s an American

American soldiers American woman who

lost her loved one in the Middle East in

Iraq or Afghanistan okay now put

yourself in the shoes go back to the

shoes of an Arab Muslim living in Iraq

what are you feeling and thinking about

this photo about this woman

okay now follow me on this because I’m

taking a big risk here and so I’m going

to invite you to take a risk with me

these gentlemen here they’re insurgents

they were caught by the American

soldiers trying to kill Americans it may

be they succeeded

maybe they succeeded put yourself in the

shoes of the Americans who caught them

can you feel the rage

can you feel you just want to take these

guys and wring their necks we can you go

there it shouldn’t be that difficult you

know you just be oh man right okay

now put yourself in their shoes are they

brutal killers or patriotic defenders

which one can you feel their anger their

fear their rage and what has happened in

their country can you imagine that maybe

one of them in the morning

bent down to their child and hug their

child and said dear I’ll be back later

I’m going out to defend your freedom

your lives I’m going out to look out for

us the future of our country can you

imagine that

can you imagine saying that can you go

there what do you think they’re feeling

you see that sympathy it’s also

understanding now you might ask okay Sam

so why do you do this sort of thing why

would you use this example of all

examples and I say because because

you’re allowed to hate these people

right you’re allowed to man just hate

them with every fiber of your being and

if I can get you to step into their

shoes and walk an inch one tiny inch

then imagine the kind of sociological

analysis that you can do in all other

aspects of your life you can walk a mile

when it comes to understanding why that

person driving 40 miles per hour in the

passing lane or your teenage son or your

neighbor who annoys you by cutting his

lawn on Sunday mornings whatever it is

you can go so far and this is what I

tell my students step outside of your

tiny little world

step inside of the tiny little world of

somebody else and then do it again and

do it again and do it again and suddenly

all these tiny little worlds they come

together in this complex web and they

build a big complex world and suddenly

without realizing it you’re seeing the

world differently everything has changed

everything in your life has changed and

that’s of course what this is about

attend to other lives other visions

listen to other people enlighten

ourselves I’m not saying that I support

the terrorists in Iraq but as a

sociologist what I am saying is I

understand and now perhaps perhaps you

do to thank

you

我的学生经常问我什么是

社会学,我告诉他们这是

研究人类如何

被他们看不到的事物所塑造,

他们说我如何才能成为一名社会学家

,我如何才能理解那些看不见的

力量和 我说同理心从同理心开始

,一切从同理心开始 把

自己从鞋子里拿出来 把自己

放在另一个人的鞋子里

我给你举个例子 让我想象

一下如果一百年前中国

是最强大的国家,我的生活 在

世界各地,他们来到

美国寻找煤炭,他们找到了

,事实上,他们在这里找到了很多

煤炭,很快他们就开始将煤炭一吨一

吨地运回中国和

其他地方 在世界各地

,他们

在这两个美丽的城市中

都非常

富有 不

知道什么是什么,接下来是什么

,然后我问自己一个问题,我

说我们怎么可能

在美国这么穷,

因为煤炭是一种如此丰富的资源,这么

多钱,我意识到 因为

中国人讨好

美国的一个小统治阶级,

他们为自己和我们其他人偷走了所有的钱和

所有的财富

大量的军事

武器和先进的技术,

以确保像我

这样的人不会公开反对这种

关系

,这听起来是否熟悉,他们做了

一些事情,比如训练有素的美国人来帮助

保护煤炭,到处都是中国人的

象征,

不断提醒和 回到中国

他们会说在中国什么都不说 不要

谈论我们 不要看煤如果你

问他他们会说你知道

我们需要煤 我我 来吧,我

不会关掉我的恒温器,

你不能指望那样,所以我很

生气,我和很多普通人一样生气

,我们反击,它变得

非常丑陋,中国人的反应

非常丑陋 在我们知道之前,

他们已经派出了坦克,他们派出

了部队,很多人正在

死去,这是一个非常非常困难的

情况

,你能想象如果

你在我的鞋子里你

会怎么想 看到这座建筑,看到

一辆坦克坐在那里,或者一辆

满载士兵的卡车,想象一下你

的感受,因为你知道他们为什么在

这里,你知道他们在这里做什么

,你只会感到愤怒,你会

感到恐惧 好吧,如果可以,那是

同理心,这是同理心,你已经离开了你的

鞋子,你站在我的鞋子里,你

必须感觉很好,所以这就是

热身,这就是热身,现在

我们将进行真正激进的实验,

所以在剩下的时间里 我的谈话我想让

你做的就是把你自己

站在一个生活在中东特别是伊拉克的普通阿拉伯穆斯林的

立场上,所以

为了帮助你,也许你是

巴格达这个中产阶级家庭的一员,

你想要的是对你的孩子最好的,

你经营你的孩子 为了过上更好的生活

,你看新闻你关注

你读报纸你

和你的朋友去咖啡店

你读世界各地的报纸

,有些

你甚至看美国的卫星有线电视新闻网

所以你有

了解美国人的想法,但

实际上,您只是希望自己过上更好的生活,

这就是您想要的

生活在伊拉克的阿拉伯穆斯林,您希望自己过上更好的

生活,所以在这里让我帮助

您让我帮助您解决一些

问题 在

过去的 20 年里,你可能会认为这是入侵你的土地的第一名,

而在任何人

对你的土地(尤其

是美国)感兴趣

之前 在美国这里的人们

知道这是关于石油的,这是

因为别人为你的资源设计了

这是你的资源,不是

别人的权利,这是你的土地,

这是你的资源,别人必须

为它设计,你知道他们为什么有

一个设计,你知道他们为什么要

关注它,因为他们有

一个完整的经济体系,

依赖于他们不拥有的

来自世界其他地区的外国石油

以及

你对这些人的看法 好吧,

美国人 有钱人来了 他们住在

大房子里 他们有大车 他们

都有金发蓝眼睛 他们很高兴

你认为这当然不是真的

但这是媒体的印象

就像你得到的一样 他们有

大城市 城市都

依赖石油 回到家乡 你看到了什么

贫穷绝望的挣扎 看你

不住在一个富裕的国家 我的意思是这是

一块岩石 对你不住在这

就是你看到的 看到人们挣扎

着过下去 我的意思是这并不容易 你看到

很多贫困并且你

对此有所感受 这些人为

你的资源设计了这就是你看到的

其他东西

这个,

但是你做,这个,这个,这个

,这个世界的军事化,在它的

中心,在美国,

在美国

,世界上几乎一半的军费

开支占世界

人口的百分之四,你觉得你看到它

每 有一天,

这是你生活的一部分,你的意思是你

和你的朋友谈论它,你读过

它,当萨达姆侯赛因

掌权时,美国人并不关心

他的罪行,当他向库尔德人毒气

并猜测伊朗他们没有时'

当石油处于危急关头时不在乎它

突然间事情变得重要了你

看到的其他东西美国

作为世界各地的民主中心他们

似乎并不真正支持

德 世界各地的民主国家

有很多国家

石油生产国 不是很

民主 但得到美国的支持

奇怪 哦 这些入侵 这两场

战争 十年制裁

八年占领

已经发动的叛乱 在你的人民身上

数以万计的

平民死亡 哦,因为石油 你

不禁想到你在谈论

它 它总是在你的脑海中

总是你说

在这个人身上怎么可能 他是你的每个人

祖父 你的叔叔 你的父亲 你的

儿子 你的邻居 你的教授 你的

学生 曾经的一生 幸福和

快乐 突然的痛苦和悲伤

你国家的每个人都被

暴力所触动 流血 痛苦

恐怖 每个人在

你的国家没有一个人没有 在

这里被感动了,但

还有别的东西这些

人这些人这些美国人

那里有一些东西 关于他们

,你看到他们没有看到自己

,你看到了什么 基督徒

他们是基督徒 他们崇拜

基督教的上帝 他们有十字架 他们

带着圣经 他们的圣经有一个小

徽章,上面写着美国军队在他们和

他们的领导人身上 领导者在他们

我们的儿女送去

你们国家的战争之前,你知道

他们送他们离开之前的原因,他们到达一个

基督教教堂,他们向他们的

基督教上帝祈祷,他们请求上帝的

保护和指导,

为什么很明显

因此,如果人们在战争中死去,

他们是穆斯林,他们是伊拉克人,

有美国人,

你知道美国人做了什么,我保护

了我们的军队,你对此有一些感受

,你当然会这样做

,他们会做一些很棒的事情,你读到

过,你听到了,但他们 ‘在那里

建立学校并帮助人们,这

就是他们想做的事情,他们做了很棒的

事情,但他们也做坏事

,你无法分辨出

你拥有的这个人的不同之处 你就像

威廉博伊金中将我的意思是

这里有一个人说你的上帝是一个

假上帝你的上帝是一个偶像他的上帝是一个

真正的上帝

根据金的说法中东问题的解决方案是让

你们所有人都皈依基督教只是得到

有钱,你知道美国人

不会读到这个人,他们

对他一无所知,但你有没有

把它传给你,你有他的

话我的意思是这很严重,你

害怕他是其中之一

第二次入侵

伊拉克的主要指挥官,你想我们得到了,如果这个

人这么说,那么所有的士兵

一定是在说,乔治·布什在这里用这个词

把这场战争称为十字

军东征,不管我说什么,这里的美国人都说十字军

东征 ‘不知道他们的意思 你

知道这意味着什么 这是一场

针对穆斯林的圣战 看起来入侵征服他们

如果他们不提交就拿走资源

杀了他们 这就是关于

你的想法 我的上帝 这些基督徒

要来杀 我们这

太可怕了 g

你当然感到害怕 你对这个人感到害怕

Terry Jones 我的意思是这里有一个人想

在美国人身上烧掉古兰经 呃

他是个傻瓜 他是一名前酒店

经理 他有三打

他的教会成员 他们会嘲笑他 你不要 不要

一笑而过,因为在其他一切的背景下,

所有的东西都适合我的

意思是,这当然是美国人

坚持的方式,所以中东各地的人们

不仅在你们国家都在

抗议,就像这样他是一只鸟

古兰经是我们的 圣书 这些

基督徒 这些基督徒 他们是如此邪恶

他们是如此卑鄙 我的意思是这就是

他们的意思

这就是你作为阿拉伯

穆斯林作为伊拉克人的想法 当然你

会这样想 然后你的表弟

说,嘿,因为看看这个网站,

你会看到

这个圣经新兵训练营 这些

基督徒疯了,他们正在训练他们的

小孩成为耶稣的士兵,他们

带着这些小孩,他们让

他们经历这些事情 教他们

如何说先生,是的,先生,诸如

扔手榴弹和武器保养和

维护之类的事情,然后去网站上说

美国军队就在上面,我的意思是这些

基督徒他们疯了,他们怎么会对他们的

小孩这样做,而你

阅读这个网站,当然还有

美国的基督徒,或者

任何人说,啊,这是一个偏僻的小

教堂,你

不知道,对你来说,这就像所有的

基督徒一样,他们

都是网络 圣经新兵训练营,看看

这个,他们甚至教他们的孩子他们

训练他们的方式

与美国海军陆战队训练的方式相同

这些家伙

是我的学生 我的朋友 我的意思是我

知道他们在想

什么 当你看到他们时你不知道 有别的

东西 有别的东西

他们对你来说就是这样 我们

在 美国好吧,你

这么看 是的,所以这里当然

你弄错了你在概括这是错误的

你不了解美国人这

不是基督教入侵我们不只是

为了石油在那里有很多

原因我的意思是你错了你

错过了 当然你们中的大多数

人不支持叛乱你们不

支持杀害美国人你们

不支持恐怖分子当然

你们不是

很少有人这样做但是你们做

对了一些事情,这是一个好的观点,所以

现在 这就是我们要做的事情

走出你现在穿的鞋子

,重新穿上你的普通

鞋子,这样每个人都回到房间了

女人 男人 我感觉到她

我感觉到她 她是我的妹妹 我的妻子 我的

表弟 我的邻居 她对我来说是任何人

这些人

站在照片中的每个人 我觉得这张照片还不错 所以

这就是我想要你做的让我们

回到我的第一个例子 中国人的

好吧,所以我想要你 去那里,所以

一切都是关于科尔的,中国人

在美国,我想让你

把她想象成一个接受中国国旗的中国女人,

因为她

所爱的人在

科尔起义和士兵中死在美国 是

中国人,其他人都有中国人

作为美国人 你对

这张照片有什么看法 你对

那个场景有什么看法

中东在

伊拉克或阿富汗,好吧,现在让

自己穿上鞋子,回到

生活在伊拉克的阿拉伯穆斯林的鞋子上,

你对这张关于这个女人的照片有什么感觉和想法,

好吧,现在跟我来,因为我

要大 在这里冒险,所以我

要邀请你和我一起冒险,

这些先生们,他们是叛乱分子,

他们被试图杀死美国人的美国士兵抓获,

也许他们成功了,

也许他们成功了 站在

抓到他们的美国人

的立场上,你能感觉到愤怒

吗?你能感觉到你只想抓住这些

家伙,拧断他们的脖子吗?我们能去

那里吗?应该没那么难你

知道你就是对的 好吧,

现在设身处地为他们着想,他们是

残暴的杀手还是爱国

的捍卫者 他们的

孩子说,亲爱的,我稍后会

回来 你认为他们的感受是什么

你看到了同情 它

现在也理解了 你可能会问 好吧 Sam

那么你为什么要做这种事情

为什么你要在所有例子中使用这个例子

我说因为因为

你被允许憎恨 这些人

对 你被允许

用你生命的每一根纤维去恨他们,

如果我能让你穿上他们的

鞋子,走一英寸一小英寸,

那么想象

一下你可以在所有其他

方面做的那种社会学分析 在你的生活中,你可以走一

英里去理解为什么那

个人在超车道上以每小时 40 英里的速度

行驶,或者你的十几岁的儿子或你的

邻居在周日早上通过修剪他的草坪来惹恼你,

不管

你能走这么远, 这就是我

告诉我的学生 走出你

的小世界 走进

别人的小世界 然后再做一次

再做一次 再做一次 突然间

所有这些微小的小世界 他们

在这个复合体中聚集在一起 网络,他们

建立了一个庞大而复杂的世界,突然间

你没有意识到你以

不同的方式看待世界一切都改变

了你生活中的一切都改变

了这当然是

关于其他生活的意义 愿景

倾听他人启发

自己 我并不是说我支持

伊拉克的恐怖分子,但作为一名

社会学家,我所说的是我

理解,现在也许

你会感谢