How work kept me going during my cancer treatment Sarah Donnelly

It was June 2014.

I was 30 years old,

and I received a call
from my doctor’s office

to say my test results were in.

So I walked up to see her
in my lunch break, and my doctor said

she was very sorry to tell me
that I had breast cancer.

I didn’t want to believe her
and at first, I didn’t.

You see, I’m a lawyer
and I needed some evidence.

So I’m very embarrassed to tell you all

that I stood up and I walked around
to where she was sitting

so that I could look
over her shoulder and verify

what was written
on the page in front of her.

(Laughter)

Malignant carcinoma.

But still not wanting
to believe it, I said,

“Now, malignant carcinoma,
you’re sure that means cancer?”

(Laughter)

She told me she was sure.

Back at work, I handed over
the urgent things that needed to be done

while I was having more tests
to see if my cancer had spread.

But at that moment,
work wasn’t my priority.

I was thinking about how I was going
to tell my family and friends

that I had cancer.

How I was going to answer their questions

about how bad it was
and whether I was going to be OK,

when I didn’t know that myself.

I was wondering if my partner and I

would ever have an opportunity
to start a family.

And I was figuring out
how I was going to tell my mother,

who had herself had breast cancer
when she was pregnant with me.

She would know how I was feeling

and have an idea of what lay ahead for me.

But I also didn’t want her
to have to relive her cancer experience.

What I didn’t appreciate at the time

was that work was about to play
a huge role in my treatment and recovery.

That it would be my coworkers and my job

that would make me feel valuable and human

at times when I would have
otherwise felt like a statistic.

That it would be my job
that would give me routine and stability

when I was dealing with so many
difficult personal decisions

and so much uncertainty.

Like, what sort of breast
reconstruction I was going to have.

And at a time like that,

you would think that I would turn
to my family and friends for support.

And yes, of course I did that.

But it would ultimately be my colleagues

who would play a huge role
in my day-to-day life.

And they would be
the ones to make me laugh.

You see, we were a pretty close team,

and we shared a couple
of really good in-jokes,

like this time they overheard
someone ask me

how I got my hair so shiny and perfect –

without knowing that it was,
of course, a wig,

and you know, it was a very good wig

and it did make getting ready
in the mornings very easy.

(Laughter)

But in little moments like this,
I appreciated what their support meant,

and I wondered what I would
have done without that network.

I’ve spoken with so many people,
women in particular,

who haven’t had the chance
to have that network

because they haven’t been given
the opportunity to work through treatment.

And there are several reasons for this.

But I think it mostly comes down
to overly paternalistic employers.

These employers want you to go away
and focus on yourself.

And come back when you’re better.

And they use those kinds of phrases.

And while these responses
are well-meaning,

knowing the benefits it brought me,

it makes me incredibly frustrated

when people are told
that they couldn’t or shouldn’t work,

when it’s something that they want to do
and physically can do.

So I started to look into
what an employer is required to do

when someone presents
with a cancer diagnosis.

I discovered that under Australian law,
cancer is considered a disability.

So if you are unable to perform
your usual work duties,

your employer is obligated
by the Disability Discrimination Act

to make reasonable adjustments
to your working arrangements,

so that you can continue to work.

What would reasonable
adjustments look like for me?

I knew the obvious impacts
my diagnosis was going to have on work.

Medical appointments would be scheduled
during business hours,

and I knew that I would need time off
to recover from surgical procedures.

Again, being a typical lawyer,

I had done my due diligence
on what to expect from treatment.

Admittedly, a lot of that
was through Doctor Google,

perhaps not my best move
and I wouldn’t recommend that.

(Laughter)

But while I was ready
for all the physical side effects,

what really scared me
was this thing called chemo brain.

Chemo brain presents itself
through memory loss,

an inability to concentrate

and an inability to solve problems.

And if this happened to me,

I wondered how I was going to do
my job as a lawyer.

Would I be forced to leave work?

And how could I possibly
have a discussion with my manager

about reasonable adjustments
to my working arrangements

when I didn’t know
how I was going to be impacted?

I was fortunate to have
a supportive manager

who was happy to see
how things went as we went along,

rather than requiring
a concrete plan up front.

I was lucky that while
he may not have even known

about this concept
of reasonable adjustments,

to him, it was just common sense.

But I’ve learned that it’s not
common sense to everyone.

Everyone going through treatment
will learn how it impacts them

and what their limitations are.

And they’ll learn to adjust for that.

So for me, there were the tips and tricks
that I learned about the treatment itself,

like, before you go to chemo,

you need to make sure
you’re really well hydrated

and that you’re warm, because it helps
the nurses to find your veins.

And make sure that you don’t eat
any of your favorite food,

either before or after chemo,

because you’re going to be
throwing that up

and you won’t ever
want to look at it again.

(Laughter)

I learned that one the hard way.

And then there were the tricks
for managing my workflow.

I scheduled chemo for first thing
on a Monday morning.

I knew that from the time
I left the cancer care unit,

I had about four hours
before this fog screen would come down

and I would start to be sick.

So I would use that time to clean my inbox
and make any urgent calls.

The worst of the sickness would be gone
within about 48 hours.

And then I would log back
into work from home.

This treatment continued
and I knew what to expect.

I was able to set reasonable expectations
with my business partners

about what I could do

and the time frames that I could do it in.

But I still remember
the hesitation in their voices

when it came to asking for things.

And asking me to do things
by a certain time.

And trust me, these were people

that were not afraid
of setting a good deadline.

(Laughter)

I got the impression they didn’t want
to put any extra pressure on me

while I was going through treatment.

And while I appreciated the sentiment,

I actually needed the deadlines.

To me, that was something
within my control

and something
that could stay in my control

when there were so many
things that couldn’t.

And as I was working from home,

I was thinking about how employers
should be applying this concept

of reasonable adjustments
in our current age,

where one in two Australian men and women

will be diagnosed with cancer
by the age of 85.

So, as we continue to work
longer and longer into older age,

the chances of having a serious illness
while we’re in the workforce

are increasing.

And with technology enabling us
to work anywhere, any time,

reasonable adjustments
are no longer contingent upon

whether or not you can continue
to physically make it

into the physical office.

Reasonable adjustments are also not about

just offering a longer break
or a comfier chair to sit in,

although those things might be good, too.

At the very least,

we need to be applying
the flexibility policies and strategies

we’ve developed for other scenarios,

like for people
with family responsibilities.

But how can we ensure that people
are even having a conversation

about what reasonable adjustments
might look like for them

if a manager’s first response is to say,

“Oh no, don’t come back to work
until you’re better.”

And a light went on for me.

It must be compulsory for managers

to have to have these conversations
with their employees.

And lessons from people like me,

that have really benefited
from working through treatment,

need to be more widely shared.

And I thought about what could be done
to guide these conversations,

and then an amazing
colleague of mine, Camilla Gunn,

developed a “Working with Cancer” toolkit.

The toolkit provides a framework
for those diagnosed,

their managers, their carers
and their coworkers

to have conversations about cancer
and the work support available.

Camilla and I have now been
to other organizations

to talk about the toolkit

and how it can help to guide through

what, quite frankly, are otherwise
some pretty awkward conversations.

And I’m pleased to say that the uptake
of the toolkit is increasing.

So what should be
a manager’s first response

when somebody says that they’re sick

and they don’t know
how it’s going to impact their work?

It must be this:

“To the extent that you
are able, and want to,

we would love to work out
an arrangement for you

to continue to work through treatment.”

We need to start positively engaging
people with serious illness

to keep them in the workforce,

rather than paternalistically
pushing them away.

I’ve told you my story
because I want you to know the benefits

that working through treatment brought me.

And I also want to change your perceptions

if you think that somebody
going through treatment

is just bored, frail and vomiting a lot.

And yes, these things
were true some of the time,

if not a lot of the time,

but I was also determined
to push myself at work

as much as I had always done.

And I was able to do that
because my employer gave me the choice.

Most importantly, I’m telling you

because while it’s a seemingly
obvious choice to give someone,

it’s not one that is always
offered or encouraged.

And it must be.

Thank you.

(Applause)

那是 2014 年 6 月,

我 30 岁,

我接到医生办公室的电话

,说我的化验结果出来了。

所以我
在午休时间走过去看她,我的医生说

她很抱歉告诉我 我
说我得了乳腺癌。

我不想相信她
,起初我没有。

你看,我是一名律师
,我需要一些证据。

所以我很尴尬地告诉

你们我站起来
走到她坐的地方,

这样我就可以
越过她的肩膀

看看
她面前的那一页上写了什么。

(笑声)

恶性肿瘤。

但还是
不想相信,我说,

“现在,恶性癌,
你确定那是癌症吗?”

(笑声)

她告诉我她很确定。

回到工作岗位后,我
把需要做的紧急事情交给了我,

同时我正在做更多的检查
,看看我的癌症是否已经扩散。

但在那一刻,
工作不是我的首要任务。

我正在考虑
如何告诉我的家人和

朋友我得了癌症。 当我自己不知道时,

我将如何回答他们

关于情况有多糟糕
以及我是否会好起来的问题

我想知道我和我的伴侣

是否有
机会组建家庭。

我正在考虑如何告诉我的母亲,

她在怀我的时候患有乳腺癌。

她会知道我的感受,

并知道我的未来。

但我也不希望她
不得不重温她的癌症经历。

当时我不明白的

是,工作即将
在我的治疗和康复中发挥重要作用。

我的同事和我的工作有时

会让我觉得自己有价值和人性

化,否则我会
觉得自己像一个统计数据。

当我处理如此多
困难的个人决定

和如此多的不确定性时,这将是我的工作给我带来常规和稳定性。

就像,
我将要进行什么样的乳房重建。

在这样的时候,

你会认为我会
向我的家人和朋友寻求支持。

是的,我当然这样做了。

但最终将是我的同事

在我的日常生活中发挥重要作用。

他们
会让我发笑。

你看,我们是一个非常亲密的团队

,我们分享了
一些非常好的笑话,

就像这次他们无意中听到
有人问我,

我的头发是如何变得如此闪亮和完美的——当然,

不知道那是
, 假发

,你知道,这是一个非常好的假发

,它确实让
早上准备工作变得非常容易。

(笑声)

但是在这样的小时刻,
我很欣赏他们的支持意味着什么

,我想知道如果
没有那个网络我会做什么。

我和很多人谈过,
尤其是女性,

他们没有
机会拥有这个网络,

因为他们没有
机会通过治疗来工作。

这有几个原因。

但我认为这主要归结
为过度家长式的雇主。

这些雇主希望您离开
并专注于自己。

等你好了再回来。

他们使用这些短语。

虽然这些回应
是善意的

,知道它给我带来的好处,

当人们被
告知他们不能或不应该工作,

当这是他们想做
并且身体可以做的事情时,我感到非常沮丧。

所以我开始研究

当有人被
诊断出癌症时雇主需要做什么。

我发现根据澳大利亚法律,
癌症被视为一种残疾。

因此,如果您无法
履行平时的工作职责,

根据《残疾歧视法》,您的雇主有义务

对您的工作安排进行合理调整,

以便您可以继续工作。

对我来说,合理的
调整是什么样的?

我知道
我的诊断将对工作产生明显的影响。

医疗预约会安排
在工作时间

,我知道我需要时间
从外科手术中恢复过来。

同样,作为一名典型的律师,

我对治疗的期望做了尽职调查

诚然,其中很多
都是通过 Google 医生完成的,

这可能不是我最好的
做法,我也不推荐这样做。

(笑声)

但是当我准备
好接受所有的身体副作用时

,真正让我害怕的
是这个叫做化疗脑的东西。

化疗大脑
通过记忆丧失

、无法集中注意力

和无法解决问题来表现自己。

如果这发生在我身上,

我想知道我将如何
做我的律师工作。

我会被迫离开工作岗位吗? 当我不知道自己会受到怎样的影响时,

我怎么可能
与我的经理讨论

对我的工作安排进行合理调整

我很幸运有
一位支持我的经理

,他很高兴
看到我们进展的情况,

而不是要求
事先制定具体计划。

我很幸运,虽然
他可能甚至不

知道这种
合理调整的概念,但

对他来说,这只是常识。

但我了解到,这
对每个人来说都不是常识。

每个接受治疗的人都
将了解它如何影响他们

以及他们的局限性是什么。

他们将学会为此进行调整。

所以对我来说
,我学到了一些关于治疗本身的技巧和窍门,

比如,在你去化疗之前,

你需要确保
你的水分充足

并且你很温暖,因为它可以
帮助护士 找到你的血管。

并且确保你在化疗之前或之后不吃
任何你最喜欢的食物,

因为你会把它
吐出来

,你再也不
想看它了。

(笑声)

我很难学到这一点。

然后
是管理我的工作流程的技巧。

我在星期一早上安排了第一件事的化疗

我知道,从
我离开癌症护理室开始,

我还有大约四个小时的
时间,雾幕才会降下来

,我会开始生病。

所以我会利用这段时间清理我的收件箱
并拨打任何紧急电话。

最严重的疾病会
在大约 48 小时内消失。

然后我会
在家重新登录工作。

这种治疗继续进行
,我知道会发生什么。

我能够
与我的商业伙伴

对我能做什么以及我能在什么

时间框架内设定合理的期望。

但我仍然记得
他们在提出要求时声音中的犹豫

并要求我在
某个时间做事。

相信我,这些人

不怕设定一个好的期限。

(笑声)

我的印象是他们不想

在我接受治疗的时候给我额外的压力。

虽然我很欣赏这种情绪,但

我实际上需要最后期限。

对我来说,这
是我可以控制

的事情
,当有很多事情无法控制时,我可以控制的

事情。

当我在家工作时,

我在思考雇主
应该如何在我们这个时代应用这种

合理调整的概念,
在这个时代

,每两个澳大利亚男性和女性中

都有一个将在 85 岁时被诊断出患有癌症

所以,当我们 随着
年龄的增长,我们工作的时间越来越长,我们在工作时

患严重疾病的机会

正在增加。

随着技术使我们
能够随时随地工作,

合理的
调整不再取决于

您是否可以
继续实际

进入实体办公室。

合理的调整也

不仅仅是提供更长的休息时间
或更舒适的椅子来坐,

尽管这些事情也可能很好。

至少,

我们需要应用

我们为其他情况制定的灵活性政策和策略,

例如
有家庭责任的人。

但是,如果经理的第一反应是“哦,不,在你好转之前不要回来工作”,我们如何才能确保
人们甚至在讨论

对他们来说合理的调整
可能是什么样的

为我点亮了一盏灯。

经理必须与员工进行这些对话

像我这样真正从治疗中受益的人的经验教训

需要更广泛地分享。

我考虑了可以做些什么
来指导这些对话,

然后我的一位了不起的
同事卡米拉·冈恩(Camilla Gunn)

开发了一个“与癌症一起工作”工具包。

该工具包
为那些被诊断出的人、

他们的经理、他们的照顾者
和他们的同事

提供了一个框架,可以就癌症
和可用的工作支持进行对话。

卡米拉和我现在已经
到其他

组织讨论该工具包

,以及它如何帮助指导

那些,坦率地说,否则是
一些非常尴尬的对话。

我很高兴地说,
该工具包的使用正在增加。

那么,

当有人说他们生病

并且不
知道这将如何影响他们的工作时,经理的第一反应应该是什么?

必须是这样的:

“在
您能够并且愿意的范围内,

我们很乐意
为您制定一项安排,让您

继续接受治疗。”

我们需要开始积极地
让患有严重疾病的人参与

进来,以使他们留在劳动力中,

而不是像家长式一样
将他们赶走。

我告诉你我的故事
是因为我想让你知道

通过治疗工作给我带来的好处。

如果你认为
接受治疗

的人只是无聊、虚弱和呕吐,我也想改变你的看法。

是的,这些事情
在某些时候是真的,

如果不是很多时候的话,

但我也决心像往常一样
在工作中推动自己

我能够做到这一点是
因为我的雇主给了我选择。

最重要的是,我告诉你

是因为虽然给予某人似乎是一个
显而易见的选择,

但它并不总是被
提供或鼓励。

它必须是。

谢谢你。

(掌声)