Shame Clues From Embarrassment To Breakthrough

[Applause]

what if your shame

could work for you instead of getting

in your way shame is very complicated

and i am the black sheep of the black

sheep

of the black sheep of my family growing

up

a long time ago so i learned from the

beginning

about all of the different levels of

shame

and i’ve been studying it for many years

and shame is amazing it’s important to

understand about it and it can also

bite you in the butt that is not a

clinical term

that is something my client told me she

came to me because

um she needed therapy she was 15.

and so in the first session she was too

embarrassed to speak

she looked down to one side and i looked

at her with

kindness and interest and she looked

down again in the way that

teenagers just have that way of you know

they’re not going to show

anything and they’re just not going to

let you in i said to her

you know i really like your lipstick

where do you choose

that particular shade and she’s like you

do

oh and we were off my curiosity about

her lipstick

lit a fire under her and she started

telling me that she had all these

different shades

one for each day of the week depending

what class she was in

and she was using the lipstick to deal

with her

embarrassment and embarrassing things

that boys might

ask her so in my working with her

i just said i see how beautiful you are

and and you’re so clever to figure out

how to use lipstick as battle paint and

we had a good laugh about that

and then i told her about the shame

map and i explained to her

there’s this whole thing this invisible

emotion

called shame and it would be helpful for

her to understand a little bit more so i

explained to her that

we balance in any moment between

shame and pride in any moment there’s

this

continuum and one side can be up

and somebody can say something really

positive and that’s up but then oh they

say something negative and that’s up and

and we’re just balancing and balancing

and balancing on this

shame pride continuum it goes between

yourself at best

and yourself at worst shame is so

complicated the reason it’s difficult

to teach about shame is if you start

talking about shame

people go right into shame

so i want everybody’s agreement here

i’m going to talk about shame i’m going

to give you some clues

i’m going to give you some shame tips

even the same map

i want to know girl scouts honor

don’t go into shame we’re doing research

so i’m giving you

all this information about shame so that

you don’t have to

dive into it okay are you willing you

willing to not go into the shame we’re

just going to talk about it

and this is called doing research the

talking about it

without going into it a lot of people

come

to study with me about how to work with

their clients with shamans there’s three

questions and if you can ask even one of

these questions you can begin

the conversation to see if your client

has

any hidden shame these are

our clues for how to how to get at that

and the first one

is how do you handle

a compliment no kidding i want you guys

to think about that right now

how do you handle a compliment does it

land in you

do you kind of go oh thank you

or maybe you push it away

or you hide it behind you or maybe you

turn it around and you just

ignore it and compliment the person who

just complimented you

and as if they’d never said it

there’s many different ways to handle a

compliment

and that is the first way to figure out

if somebody has hidden shame

the next question question number two

remember we’re doing research here just

ask yourself that question

how do you handle it if you make a

mistake you make a mistake

some people might say oh

i’m sorry let me do that again or

they might say nothing

and they might just look down and

pretend

it didn’t happen or they might

start blaming themselves and saying oh

wow

i can’t get anything right and if they

start putting themselves down when they

make a mistake

maybe to stop somebody else

from making fun of them or noticing that

they weren’t perfect or something like

that

some people hide some people just stop

talking some people

freeze up during the headlights some

people were starting to share something

and

they just zip up all their feelings and

they just kind of

stop sharing so they think they’ve done

something wrong okay third question

third question is

what if somebody puts you down

in fact what if somebody says something

mean or what if somebody

criticizes you yeah it happens

how do you handle it often if somebody

feels they’re criticized or put down for

something

they go into a deer and headlights

reaction

or they you know just look down or away

or just stop look down or look away

or feel shy or like

you know like there’s something wrong

with them

so those are the three questions

those questions help i’ve been

researching this

for many many years and what i find out

it’s not the shame it’s what happens

right before the shame

so i’ll ask somebody what happened

before they started shouting at their

kid or what happened

before they clammed up and pulled away

and so

some of the clues about shame i’m going

to talk about clues that are

mental clues that are uh

physiological in the body and then clues

that our behavior

actions that somebody might do remember

this is research here

so i’m going to talk about the shame and

please

don’t go into it we’re just learning

a little bit about it so the first thing

is

some clues that somebody might be going

into shame

these are some thoughts and i’m gonna

step over here kind of

in the shame box okay so in the shame

box

the shame map clues that somebody

might have shame going on are basic

things they might be thinking like

something’s wrong with me

nothing’s right with me i can’t get it

right

i am a mistake i blew it

remember those are the cognitive

reactions to shame um i

actually had a lot of experience with

that years ago when i was writing my

thesis

i was having writer’s block i just

was stuck and i couldn’t write very much

and so i just kept thinking

you know there must be something wrong

with me you know boy i’m not a writer i

just you know and it just kept

going round and round and round and the

inner critic was

just attacking me and it took me a long

time

to figure out how to do the writing for

my thesis

because i actually went into a brain

phrase where i couldn’t think

straight and once that happened i

couldn’t write

this happens to so many people not just

writers it happens to kids

it happens to people that are just kind

of like trying to get

something done and they

make a little mistake or something

happens

and when that inner shame happens

and starts putting them down and then

the bravery say

brain freeze happens and they can’t

think straight

it’s really difficult the way to get out

of it

is step out of it

leave the shame okay there leave those

negative voices

over there say that’s not me i want to

write or i want to take a break from

writing or leave me alone that’s not me

and then do something kind

like put your hand on your heart or say

you’re gonna be fine or just take a

break and come back to it

or call a friend or whatever you need to

do

to stay out of that negative

voice because that is shame and the

physiology of shame is it can

freeze your nervous system people think

that they can’t think

but it’s just shame okay i’m gonna go

back in and again

i’m gonna talk about uh emotions

that happen in shame the emotions for

shame

might be uh like um

the face turning red or the throat

just um you know person can’t get their

words at

or the chest kind of pulls in or the

person starts to actually

collapse um one of my clients

had this his throat would close and it

didn’t matter if he was asking his

girlfriend

you know when are we gonna have dinner

when are we gonna have sex

it didn’t matter his throat would close

up and he would just

go into this inner physical

collapse and so i had to teach him how

to talk to his girlfriend that

explained that he was going to shame and

why

he sometimes clammed up and third thing

way to work understand shame we’re going

back in the shame box just for a minute

this is actions that somebody might do

when

they’re in a state of shame and these

actions

might be putting somebody down

criticizing

yelling somebody blaming somebody

criticizing somebody something like this

you know i’m going to step out of this

box

and look at it over there i had a client

who found himself just yelling and

screaming at his son i asked him in a

therapy

session what was going on for you i

heard you yelled at your son but i

didn’t understand what happened just

before that

and he said oh he never cleans his room

and i’m like okay he’s a kid but

why were you yelling this time and he’s

like well

uh and he couldn’t even remember and i’m

like think back

why were you yelling this time and he’s

like oh yeah

he asked me to go on this um trip with

his friends and it was really an

expensive trip

and i couldn’t really afford it um

so i guess i was um yeah i guess

i guess you know that’s what was going

on for me and so i was able to talk to

him and explain

that the embarrassment and the shame

of not being able to tell a son that he

couldn’t afford the trip for him

instead of feeling that and speaking

about the shame

he went into the reaction to shame and

was

just yelling at the kid so

that was a clue shame

is so important shame helps us

understand where our boundaries are

shame lowers the affect

on anger and on emotions

it’s wired in our nervous system to

actually help us survive as a species

shame has a developmental purpose

and so it’s important to understand

you in relation to your shame and

what it’s maybe trying to tell you

for the kid that i worked with who was

in high school

her shame was telling her that she

needed to have a boundary with some kids

at school

you know for a couple that i was working

with recently

they came to me and they said they

stopped having sex five years ago and i

he said well we can’t figure it out all

i remember

is you know we were very sexual and then

she asked me

you know to touch her in a certain way

or in certain ways and i just felt like

well i’ll never be able to do that

you know what’s wrong with me and i’m

like oh you started to feel like

something

was wrong with you and he’s like yeah

and i’m like well what happened then

and he’s like well i realized i was

never going to be able to be good enough

for her

so i just pulled away she said well

i didn’t understand why he was pulling

away so i pulled away too

so i’m sitting there with the both of

them and i say

when you feel like you’re not good

enough when you feel like there’s

something wrong with you that you can’t

do anything right

that’s actually the emotion of shame

in understanding that shames there and

be able to share it with your partner

and with yourself in a kind way

you can begin to heal the shame they

manage

to not stay out of the shame box but

they managed to be able to go into it

figure out what am i thinking what am i

feeling what is shame telling me

okay do i you know this isn’t real i’m

just this

is shame this is the emotion of shame

i’m gonna step

over here and i’m gonna look at it okay

the thoughts the feelings the actions

is there anything i can learn from this

is there anything i need or do i just

kind of put it in a box or put it in a

pocket or

you know kick it off the stage

get rid of the shame and be kind to

yourself

so the trick of all of this is being

kind to yourself finding new ways

to be in relationship with your shame

it doesn’t have to be an enemy it can

actually be a friend and so really being

able to be

in relation with your shame i forgot to

tell you

the secret of healing shame shame just

kind of

can take our life force energy so the

way

through shame is really to have

love and support for yourself putting

your hand

on your heart giving yourself a hug

calling a friend

all of those things can be kind ways

to counter the shame so as you start

to understand about shame just be

very kind to yourself very very kind to

yourself

it’s an honor to talk with you about

shame the shame is over

there and i’m scrunching it down into a

little ball

and kicking it off the stage

so thank you for listening

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[鼓掌

] 如果你的羞耻

感对你有用,而不是

妨碍你呢?羞耻感很复杂

,我

是我家很久以前长大的害群之马的害群之马,

所以我从一开始就学会了

关于所有不同程度的

羞耻感

,我已经研究了很多年

,羞耻感很棒,了解它很重要

,它也会

咬你的屁股,

这不是我的客户告诉我的临床术语 她

来找我是因为

嗯,她需要治疗,她 15 岁。

所以在第一次治疗中,她

不好意思说话,

她低头看向一边,我

友善和感兴趣地看着她,她又像青少年

那样低头

只要让你知道

他们不会展示

任何东西,他们只是不会

让你进来我对她说

你知道我真的很喜欢你的口红

你在哪里选择

那个特定的颜色,她就像你

一样

哦 我们是 出于对

她口红的好奇,她

在她身下点燃了一把火,她开始

告诉我,她每周的每一天都有所有这些

不同的色调

,这

取决于她所在的班级

,她用口红来

处理她的

尴尬和尴尬的事情

男孩们可能会

问她,所以在我和她一起工作时,

我只是说我看到你有多漂亮

,而且你很聪明,知道

如何使用口红作为战斗涂料,

我们对此笑得很开心,

然后我告诉她 关于羞耻

地图,我向她解释

了这整件事,这种无形的

情感

叫做羞耻,这对

她理解更多一点会有所帮助,所以我

向她解释说,

我们在任何时候都在

羞耻和骄傲之间取得平衡,任何时候都有

这个

连续统一体和一方可以上升

,有人可以说一些非常

积极的话,那就是上升,但是然后哦,他们

说一些消极的话,那是上升的

,我们只是在平衡,平衡

和平衡o 在这个

羞耻骄傲连续体中,它

充其量是

你自己和最坏的你自己之间的羞耻是如此

复杂,

很难教授羞耻的原因是,如果你开始

谈论羞耻,

人们就会感到羞耻,

所以我希望每个人都同意,

我要 谈论耻辱我

会给你一些线索

我会给你一些耻辱提示

即使是同一张地图

我想知道女童子军的荣誉

不要感到羞耻我们正在做研究

所以我给你

所有这些关于耻辱的信息,这样

你就不必

深究了,好吧,你愿意你

愿意不陷入耻辱吗?我们

只是要谈论它

,这被称为做研究,

谈论它

而不进入 很多人

和我一起学习如何与

他们的客户一起与萨满一起工作有三个

问题,如果你可以问其中

一个问题,你可以

开始对话,看看你的客户

是否有

任何隐藏的耻辱这些是

我们的线索 如何 关于如何做到这一点

,第一个

是你如何

处理赞美不开玩笑我

希望你们现在考虑

一下你如何处理赞美它是否

落在你

身上你有点去哦谢谢你

或者也许 你推开它,

或者你把它藏在你身后,或者你

把它转过来,你只是

忽略它并赞美

刚刚赞美你的人

,就好像他们从未说过那样

有很多不同的方式来处理

赞美

,那就是 弄清楚

某人是否隐藏羞耻

的第一种方法 下一个问题 第二个问题

记住我们在这里做研究 只是

问自己这个问题

如果你犯了错误你会如何处理 你

犯了一个错误

有些人可能会说 哦,

我是 对不起,让我再做一次,或者

他们可能什么也没说

,他们可能只是低头

假装没有发生,或者他们可能

开始责备自己,说哦,

哇,

我什么都做不好,如果他们

开始自卑,当他们

制作 一个错误

可能是为了阻止其他

人取笑他们或注意到

他们并不完美或类似的东西

有些人隐藏有些人只是停止

说话有些人

在车头灯下冻结有些

人开始分享一些东西

然后

他们只是拉链 表达他们所有的感受,

他们只是

停止分享,所以他们认为他们做错了

什么,好吧第三个问题

第三个问题

是如果有人贬低你

,事实上如果有人说一些

刻薄的话怎么办,或者如果有人

批评你怎么办是的,它是如何发生的

如果有人

觉得他们因某事受到批评或贬低,你会经常处理

吗?

他们会变成鹿和车灯

反应,

或者你知道他们只是往下看或别处,

或者只是停止往下看或往别处看,

或感到害羞或像

你知道的那样 他们有问题

所以

这些问题帮助我

研究

了很多年的三个问题,我发现

这不是耻辱,而是 帽子

发生在羞耻之前,

所以我会问某人

在他们开始对他们的孩子大喊大叫之前

发生了什么,或者

在他们闭嘴并拉开之前发生了什么

,所以

一些关于羞耻的线索我

要谈谈

精神上的线索

身体中的生理线索,然后

是我们的行为行为的线索

,有人可能会记住

这是这里的研究,

所以我要谈谈耻辱,

不要深究,我们只是在学习

一点点 关于它,所以第一件事

一些线索,有人可能会

感到羞耻

这些是一些想法,我要

跨过这里,有点像

在羞耻箱里,好吧,在羞耻

箱里,羞耻地图线索表明有人

可能会感到羞耻 是基本的

事情,他们可能会认为

我有问题

几年前,当我写

论文的时候,

我遇到了写作障碍,我只是

被卡住了,我不能写太多

,所以我一直在想

你知道我一定有

问题你知道男孩我不是 我

只是你知道的作家,它一直在转来转

去,

内心的批评者

只是在攻击我,我花了很长时间

才弄清楚如何为我的论文写作,

因为我实际上进入了一个大脑

短语 我无法正确

思考,一旦发生这种情况,我

就无法写出

这种情况发生在很多人身上,不仅是

作家,也发生在孩子

身上,这种情况发生在那些

试图

完成某件事但

他们犯了小错误的人身上,或者

发生了一些事情

,当内心的羞耻发生

并开始放下他们,

然后勇敢地说

大脑冻结发生了,他们无法

思考

,摆脱它真的很困难,

走出它的方法

是走出它,

留下羞耻,好吧,离开那些

那边的负面声音说那不是我,我

想写,或者我想休息一下,

或者让我一个人呆着,那不是我

,然后做一些事情,

比如把手放在心上,或者说

你会没事的,或者

休息一下再回来,

或者打电话给朋友,或者做任何你需要

做的事情

来远离那种负面的

声音,因为那是一种耻辱,而羞耻的

生理学是它可以

冻结你的神经系统,人们

认为他们无法思考

但这只是羞耻,好吧,我要

回去一次又一次

我要谈论

在羞耻中发生的呃情绪,羞耻的情绪

可能是呃,就像

脸变红或喉咙

只是呃你知道人不能 听他们的

话,

或者胸部有点拉扯,或者这个

人开始真正

崩溃 嗯,我的一个客户

有这个,他的喉咙会闭上,

如果他问他的

女朋友,

你知道我们什么时候吃晚饭没关系

我们会发生性

关系吗,他的t没关系 hroat 会

关闭,他

会陷入这种内在的身体

崩溃,所以我不得不教他如何

与他的女朋友交谈,这

解释了他会感到羞耻,以及

为什么

他有时会闭嘴和第三件事

的工作方式理解羞耻我们 ‘要

回到耻辱箱里一会儿,

这是某人

在羞耻时可能会

采取的行动,这些行为

可能会让某人失望,

批评

某人大喊大叫某人指责某人

批评某人这样的事情

你知道我’ 我要走出这个

盒子

,看看那边 我有一个

客户发现自己只是

对他的儿子大喊大叫 我在治疗期间问他你发生了

什么事 我

听到你对你的儿子大喊大叫,但我

不明白在那之前发生了什么

,他说哦,他从不打扫他的房间

,我很好,他还是个孩子,但

你为什么这次大喊大叫,他

就像

嗯,他甚至不记得了,我

喜欢 回想

你为什么这次大喊大叫,他

就像哦,是的,

他让我和他的朋友一起去这次旅行

,这真的是一次

昂贵的旅行

,我真的负担不起,

所以我想我是嗯,是的,我想

我想你知道这就是我

发生的事情,所以我能够和

他交谈并解释

无法告诉儿子

他负担不起旅行费用

而不是感觉的尴尬和耻辱

谈到羞耻,

他对羞耻做出了反应,

只是对孩子大喊大叫,所以

这是一个线索,羞耻

是如此重要,羞耻帮助我们

了解我们的界限在哪里

羞耻降低了

对愤怒和情绪的影响,

它与我们的神经系统有关

真正帮助我们作为一个物种生存的系统

耻辱具有发展目的

,因此

了解你的耻辱

以及它可能试图告诉你

事情很重要 告诉她她

需要与学校里的一些孩子划清界限,

你知道最近我和我一起工作的一对夫妇

来找我,他们说他们

五年前就停止了性行为,我

他说好吧,我们想不通

我只

记得你知道我们非常性感,然后

她问我

你知道以某种方式

或某种方式抚摸她,我只是

觉得我永远做不到

你知道我有什么问题 我

就像哦,你开始觉得

你有问题,他就像是的

,我很好,然后发生了什么事

,他很好我意识到

我永远无法对她足够好

所以我 只是拉开她说,好吧,

我不明白他为什么要

拉开,所以我也拉开,

所以我和他们俩坐在那里

,我说

当你觉得你不够好时

,当你觉得有

你有什么问题,你不能

做任何正确

的事,这实际上是你的情绪

羞耻 理解那里的耻辱,并

能够

以一种善意的方式与你的伴侣和你自己分享它,

你可以开始治愈他们

设法不离开耻辱框但

他们设法进入它的耻辱

图 出来 我在想什么 我

感觉什么是羞耻 告诉我

好吗 我你知道这不是真的

没关系 想法 感受

行动 有什么我可以从中学到

的 有什么我需要的吗 我

只是把它放在一个盒子里或放在

口袋里 或者

你知道 把它踢下舞台

摆脱 羞耻和善待

自己

所以这一切的诀窍就是

善待自己 寻找新的方式

与你的耻辱建立关系

它不一定是敌人 它

实际上可以是朋友 所以真的能够

与你的耻辱有关,我忘了

告诉你

治愈耻辱的秘诀 我只是

有点

可以带走我们的生命力能量所以

摆脱羞耻的方法真的是

对自己有爱和支持把

你的手

放在心上给自己一个拥抱

给朋友打电话

所有这些事情都是

对抗羞耻的好方法所以 当你

开始了解羞耻时,

对自己非常友善,对自己非常非常友善,

很荣幸能和你谈论

羞耻,羞耻就在

那里,我正在把它揉成一个

小球,

然后把它踢下舞台,

所以 谢谢聆听

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