How can we control the coronavirus pandemic Adam Kucharski

[How can we control
the coronavirus pandemic?]

[From infectious disease expert
Adam Kucharski]

[Question 1: What does containment mean
when it comes to outbreaks?]

Containment is this idea
that you can focus your effort on control

very much on the cases and their contacts.

So you’re not causing disruption
to the wider population,

you have a case that comes in,
you isolate them,

you work out who they’ve come
into contact with,

who’s potentially these
opportunities for exposure

and then you can follow up those people,

maybe quarantine them, to make sure
that no further transmission happens.

So it’s a very focused, targeted method,

and for SARS, it worked remarkably well.

But I think for this infection,

because some cases are going to be missed,
or undetected,

you’ve really got to be capturing
a large chunk of people at risk.

If a few slip through the net,

potentially, you’re going
to get an outbreak.

[Question 2: If containment
isn’t enough, what comes next?]

In that respect,

it would be about massive changes
in our social interactions.

And so that would require,

of the opportunities
that could spread the virus

so these kind of close contacts,

everybody in the population, on average,

will be needing to reduce
those interactions

potentially by two-thirds
to bring it under control.

That might be through working from home,

from changing lifestyle

and kind of where you go
in crowded places and dinners.

And of course, these measures,
things like school closures,

and other things
that just attempt to reduce

the social mixing of a population.

[Question 3: What are the risks
that we need people to think about?]

It’s not just whose hand you shake,

it’s whose hand that person
goes on to shake.

And I think we need to think
about these second-degree steps,

that you might think you have low risk

and you’re in a younger group,

but you’re often going to be
a very short step away

from someone who is going to get hit
very hard by this.

And I think we really need
to be socially minded

and think this could be quite dramatic
in terms of change of behavior,

but it needs to be

to reduce the impact
that we’re potentially facing.

[Question 4: How far apart
should people stay from each other?]

I think it’s hard to pin down exactly,

but I think one thing to bear in mind
is that there’s not so much evidence

that this is a kind of aerosol
and it goes really far –

it’s reasonably short distances.

I don’t think it’s the case

that you’re sitting a few meters
away from someone

and the virus is somehow
going to get across.

It’s in closer interactions,

and it’s why we’re seeing
so many transmission events

occur in things like meals
and really tight-knit groups.

Because if you imagine

that’s where you can get
a virus out and onto surfaces

and onto hands and onto faces,

and it’s really situations like that
we’ve got to think more about.

[Question 5: What kind
of protective measures

should countries put in place?]

I think that’s what people
are trying to piece together,

first in terms of what works.

It’s only really in the last
sort of few weeks

we’ve got a sense that this thing
can be controllable

with this extent of interventions,

but of course, not all countries
can do what China have done,

some of these measures

incur a huge social, economic,
psychological burden

on populations.

And of course, there’s the time limit.

In China, they’ve had them in
for six weeks,

it’s tough to maintain that,

so we need to think of these tradeoffs

of all the things we can ask people to do,

what’s going to have the most impact
on actually reducing the burden.

[To learn more, visit: Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention]

[World Health Organization]

[我们如何
控制冠状病毒大流行?]

[来自传染病专家
Adam Kucharski]

[问题 1:
在疫情爆发时,遏制意味着什么?]

遏制是
指您可以将

精力集中在控制病例上 和他们的联系方式。

所以你不会
对更广泛的人群造成干扰,

你有一个病例进来,
你隔离他们,

你找出他们
接触过的人,

谁是潜在的这些
接触机会

,然后你可以跟进这些人 ,

也许隔离他们,以
确保不会发生进一步的传播。

所以这是一种非常有针对性、针对性强的方法

,对于 SARS 来说,效果非常好。

但我认为对于这种感染,

因为有些病例会被遗漏
或未被发现,所以

你真的必须
抓住大量处于危险中的人。

如果有一些人漏网

,你可能
会爆发。

[问题 2:如果遏制
还不够,接下来会发生什么?]

在这方面,

这将
是我们社会互动的巨大变化。

因此,这将需要

可能传播病毒的机会,

因此这种密切接触

,平均而言,人口中的每个人都

需要将
这些互动

可能减少三分之二
才能控制住它。

这可能是通过在家工作

、改变生活方式

以及
去拥挤的地方和晚餐的方式。

当然,这些措施
,比如关闭学校,

以及
其他试图

减少人口社会融合的措施。

[问题 3:
我们需要人们思考的风险是什么?]

这不仅仅是你握了谁的手,

而是那个人继续握了谁的手

而且我认为我们需要
考虑这些二级步骤

,你可能认为你的风险很低

,而且你在一个更年轻的群体中,

但你通常会离那些将要这样做
的人只有很短的一步。

受此重创。

而且我认为我们确实
需要具有社会意识,

并认为这
在行为改变方面可能非常引人注目,

但它

需要减少
我们可能面临的影响。

[问题 4:
人们应该彼此相距多远?]

我认为很难准确确定,

但我认为要记住的一点
是,没有太多证据

表明这是一种气溶胶,
而且它会 真的很远

——相当短的距离。

我不

认为你坐在
离某人几米远的地方

,病毒就会以
某种方式传播。

这是在更密切的互动中

,这就是为什么我们看到
如此多的传播事件

发生在诸如用餐
和真正紧密的团体之类的事情中。

因为如果你想象

那是你可以
将病毒传播

到表面、手和脸上的地方,

真的是这样的情况,
我们必须更多地考虑。

[问题 5:各国应该采取什么样
的保护措施

?]

我认为这就是
人们试图拼凑起来的,

首先是什么有效。

直到最近
几周

我们才真正感觉到,

通过这种程度的干预,这件事是可以控制的,

但当然,并非所有国家
都能像中国那样做,

其中一些措施

会引发巨大的社会 ,对人口的经济、
心理负担

当然,还有时间限制。

在中国,他们已经让他们
呆了六周,

很难维持下去,

所以我们需要考虑这些

我们可以要求人们做的所有事情的权衡,

什么将对
实际减轻负担产生最大影响 .

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