The tribes we lead Seth Godin

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so sometimes I get invited to give weird

talks I got invited to speak to the

people who dress up in big stuffed

animal costumes to perform its sporting

events unfortunately I couldn’t go but

it got me thinking about the fact that

these guys at least most of them know

what it is that they do for a living

what they do is they dress up as stuffed

animals and entertain people at sporting

events shortly after that I got invited

to speak at the convention of the people

who make balloon animals and again I

couldn’t go but it’s a fascinating group

they make balloon animals there’s a big

schism between the ones who make gospel

animals and porn animals but they do a

lot of really cool stuff with balloon

sometimes we get in trouble but not

often and the other thing about these

guys is they also know what they do for

a living

they make balloon animals but what do we

do for a living what exactly do the

people watching this do every day and I

want to argue that what we do is we try

to change everything that we try to find

a piece of the status quo something that

bothers us something that needs to be

improved something that’s eating to be

changed and we change it and we try to

make big permanent important change but

we don’t think about it that way and we

haven’t spent a lot of time talking

about what that process is like and I’ve

been studying it for a couple years and

I want to share a couple stories with

you today first about a guy named Nathan

Winograd Nathan was the number two

person at the San Francisco SPCA and

what you may not know about the history

of the SPCA is it was founded to kill

dogs and cats cities gave them a charter

to get rid of the stray animals on the

street and destroy them and in a typical

year four million dogs and cats were

killed most of them within 24 hours of

being scooped off the street Nathan and

his boss saw this and they could not

tolerate it so they set out to make San

Francisco a no-kill City create an

entire city wherever

dog and cat unless it was ill or

dangerous would be adopted not killed

and everyone said it was impossible

Nathan his boss went to the City Council

to get a change in the ordinance and

people from SPCA s and humane shelters

from around the country flew to San

Francisco to testify against them to say

it would hurt the movement and it was

inhumane they persisted and Nathan went

directly to the community he connected

with people who cared about this

non-professionals people with passion

and within just a couple years San

Francisco became the first no-kill city

running no deficit completely supported

by the community Nathan left and went to

Tompkins County New York a place as

different from San Francisco as you can

be and still be the United States and he

did it again he went from being a

glorified dog catcher to completely

transforming the community and then he

went to North Carolina and did it again

and he went to Reno and he did it again

and when I think about what Nathan did

and I think about people here do I think

about ideas and I think about the idea

that creating an idea spreading an idea

has a lot behind it and I don’t know if

you’ve ever been to a Jewish wedding but

what they do is they take a light bulb

and they smash it now there’s a bunch of

reasons for that and stories about it

but one reason is because it indicates a

change from before to after it’s a

moment in time and I want to argue that

we are living through and are right at

the key moment of a change in the way

ideas are created and spread and

implemented we started with the factory

idea that you could change the whole

world if you had an efficient factory

that could turn out change we then went

to the TV idea that said if you had a

big enough mouthpiece if you can get on

TV enough times if you could buy enough

ads you could win and now we’re in this

new model of leadership where the way we

make change is not by using money or

power to lever a system but by leading

so let me talk about the three cycles

the first one is the factory cycle Henry

Ford

comes up with a really cool idea it

enables him to hire men who used to get

paid 50 cents a day and pay him five

dollars a day because he’s got an

efficient in a factory well with that

sort of advantage you can churn out a

lot of cars you can make a lot of change

you can get roads built you can change

the fabric of an entire country that the

essence of what you’re doing is you need

ever cheaper labor and ever faster

machines and the problem we’ve run into

is we’re running out of both ever

cheaper labor and ever faster machines

so we shift gears for a minute and say I

know television advertising push push

take a good idea and push it on the

world I have a better mousetrap and if I

can just get enough money to tell enough

people I’ll sell enough and you can

build an entire industry on that if

necessary you can put babies in your ads

if necessary you can use babies to sell

other stuff and if babies don’t work you

can use doctors but be careful because

you don’t want to get an unfortunate

juxtaposition when you’re talking about

one thing instead of the other this

model requires you to act like the king

like the person in the front of the room

throwing things to the peons in the back

now you are in charge and you’re going

to tell people what to do next that you

know the quick little diagram of it is

you’re up here and you are pushing it

out to the world

this method mass marketing requires

average ideas because you’re going to

the masses and plenty of ads what we’ve

done as spammers is trying to hypnotize

everyone into buying our idea hypnotize

everyone into donating to our cause

hypnotize everyone into voting for our

candidate and unfortunately it doesn’t

work so well anymore either

but there is good news around the corner

really good news I call it the idea of

tribes what tribes are is a very simple

concept that goes back fifty thousand

years it’s about leading and connecting

people and ideas and it’s something that

people have wanted forever lots of

people are used to having a spiritual

tribe or a church tribe having a work

tribe having a community tribe but now

thanks to the internet thanks to the

explosion of mass media thanks to a lot

of other things that are bubbling

through our society around the world

tribes are everywhere the internet was

supposed to homogenize everyone by

connecting us all instead what it’s

allowed is silos of interest so you got

the Red Hat ladies over here you got the

Red Hat triathletes over there you’ve

got the organized armies over here you

got the disorganized rebels over here

you got people in white hats making food

and people in white hats sailing boats

the point is that you can find Ukrainian

folk dancers and connect with them

because you want to be connected that

people on the fringes can find each

other connect and go somewhere every

town that has a volunteer fire

department understands this way of

thinking

now it turns out this is a legitimate

non photoshopped photo people I know who

are firemen told me that this is not

uncommon and that what firemen do to

Train sometimes is they take a house

that’s going to be torn down and they

burn it down instead in practice putting

it out but they always stop and take a

picture so you know the pirate tribe is

a fascinating one they got thrown flag

they got the eye patches you can tell

when you’re running into someone in a

tribe and it turns out that it’s tribes

not money not factories that can change

our world that can change politics that

can align large numbers of people not

because you force them to do something

against their will but because they

wanted to connect that what we do for a

living now all of us I think is find

something worth changing and then

assemble tribes that assemble tribes

that spread the idea and spread the idea

and it becomes something far bigger than

ourselves it becomes a movement so when

Al Gore set out to change the world

again he didn’t do it by himself and he

didn’t do it by buying a lot of ads he

did it by creating a movement thousands

of people around the country who could

give his presentation for him because he

can’t be in 100 or 200 or 500 cities in

each night you don’t need everyone what

Kevin Kelley has taught us is you just

need I don’t know a thousand true fans a

thousand people who care enough that

they will get you the next round and the

next round and the next one that means

that the idea you create the product you

create the movement you create isn’t for

everyone it’s not a mass thing that’s

not what this is about what it’s about

instead is finding the true believers

it’s easy to look at what I’ve said so

far as I wait a minute I don’t have what

it takes to be that kind of leader

so here are two leaders they don’t have

a lot in common they’re about the same

age but that’s about it what they did

though is each in their own way

created a different way of navigating

your way through technology so some

people would go out and get people to be

on one team and some people get people

to be on the other team it also informs

the decisions you make when you make

products or services you know this is

one of my favorite devices but what a

shame that it’s not organized to help

authors create movements what would

happen if when you’re using your Kindle

you could see the comments and quotes

and notes from all the other people

reading the same book as you in that

moment or from your book group or from

your friends or from the circle you want

what would happen if authors or people

with ideas could use version two which

comes out on Monday and use it to

organize people who want to talk about

something now there is a million things

I could share with you about the

mechanics here but let me just try a

couple the Beatles did not invent

teenagers they merely decided to lead

them that most movements most leadership

that we’re doing is about finding a

group that’s disconnected but already

has a yearning not persuading people to

want something they don’t have yet when

Diane hats worked on the meatrix her

video that spread all across the

internet about the way farm animals are

treated

she didn’t invent the idea of being a

vegan she didn’t invent the idea of

caring about this issue but she helped

to organize people and help turn it into

a movement

Hugo Chavez did not invent the

disaffected middle and lower class of

Venezuela he merely led them Bob Marley

did not invent Rastafarians he just

stepped up and said follow me Derek

Siver’s invented CD Baby which allowed

independent musicians to have a place to

sell their music without selling out to

the man to have a place to take the

mission they already wanted to go to and

connect with each other what all these

people have in common is that they are

heretics that heretics look at the

status quo and say this will not stand I

can’t abide this status quo I am willing

to stand up and be counted and move

things forward I see what the status quo

is I don’t like it that instead of

looking at all the little rules and

following each one of them

that instead of being what I call a

sheep Walker somebody who is half asleep

following instructions keeping their

head down fitting in every once in a

while someone says up and says not me

someone stands up and says this one’s

important we need to organize around it

and not everyone will but you don’t need

everyone you just need a few people who

will look at the rules realize they make

no sense and realize how much they want

to be connected so Tony Hsieh does not

run a shoe store

Zappos isn’t a shoe store Zappos is the

one the only the best there ever was

place for people who are into shoes to

fight each other to talk about their

passion to connect with people who care

more about customer service than making

a nickel tomorrow it can be something as

prosaic issues and something as

complicated as overthrowing a government

it’s exactly the same behavior though

what it requires as Geraldine Carter has

discovered is to be able to say I can’t

do this by myself but if I can get other

people to join my climate ride then

together we can get something that we

all want we just waiting for someone to

lead us Michelle Kaufmann has pioneered

new ways of thinking about environmental

architecture she doesn’t do it by

quietly building one house at a time she

does it by telling a story to people who

want to hear it by connecting a tribe of

people who are desperate to be connected

to each other by leading a movement and

making change and around and around and

around it goes so three questions I’d

offer you the first one is who exactly

are you upsetting because if you’re not

upsetting anyone you’re not changing the

status quo the second question is who

are you connecting because for a lot of

people that’s what they’re in it for the

connections that are being made one to

the other and the third one is who are

you leading be

because focusing on that part of it not

the mechanics of what you’re building

but the who and the leading part is

where change comes so you know Blake at

TOMS shoes had a very simple idea what

would happen if every time someone

bought a pair of these shoes I gave

exactly the same pair to someone who

doesn’t even own a pair of shoes this is

not the story of how you get shelf space

at Neiman Marcus it’s a story of a

product that tells a story and as you

walk around with this remarkable pair of

shoes and someone says what are those

you get to tell the story on Blake’s

behalf on behalf of the people who got

the shoes and suddenly it’s not one pair

of shoes 100 pair of shoes it’s tens of

thousands of pairs of shoes

my friend red Maxwell has spent the last

10 years fighting against juvenile

diabetes not far during the organization

that’s fighting and fighting with them

leading them connecting them challenging

the status quo because it’s important to

him and the people he surrounds himself

with need the connection they need the

leadership it makes a difference you

don’t need permission from people to

lead them but in case you do here it is

they’re waiting we’re waiting for you to

show us where to go next so here’s what

leaders have in common the first thing

is they challenge the status quo they

challenge what’s currently there the

second thing is they build a culture a

secret language a seven-second handshake

a way of knowing that you’re in or out

they have curiosity curiosity about the

people in the tribe curiosity about

outsiders they’re asking questions they

connect people to one another do you

know what people want more than anything

they want to be missed they want to be

missed the day they don’t show up they

want to be missed when they’re gone and

tribe leaders can do that and it’s

fascinating because all tribe leaders

have charisma but you don’t need

charisma to become a leader being a

leader gives you charisma and if you

look and study the leaders who have

succeeded that’s where charisma comes

from from the leading and finally they

commit they commit to the cause they

commit to the tribe they commit

to the people who are there so I’d like

you to do something for me and I hope

you’ll think about it before you reject

it out of hand what I want you to do is

only takes 24 hours is create a movement

something that matters start do it

we need it thank you very much

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所以有时我被邀请进行奇怪的

演讲 我被邀请与

穿着大毛绒

动物服装参加体育

赛事的人交谈,不幸的是我不能去,

但这让我想到了

这些人的事实 至少他们中的大多数人

知道他们以什么为生

他们所做的就是打扮成毛绒

玩具并在体育

赛事中招待人们 不久之后我被邀请

制作气球动物的人大会上发言 再次,我

不能去,但这是一个令人着迷的团体,

他们制作气球动物

。在制作福音动物和色情动物的人之间存在很大分歧,

但他们

用气球做了很多非常酷的事情,

有时我们会遇到麻烦,但并不

经常 关于这些

家伙的另一件事是,他们也知道他们以

什么为生,

他们制作气球动物,但我们

什么为生 我们所做的是我们

试图改变一切我们试图找到

现状的一部分让

我们感到困扰的事情需要

改进的事情需要

改变的东西我们改变它并且我们尝试

做出巨大的永久重要的改变但

我们 不要那样想,我们

还没有花很多时间

谈论这个过程是什么样的,我

已经研究了几年,

今天我想先和你分享几个故事,关于一个 名叫 Nathan

Winograd Nathan 的

人是旧金山 SPCA 的二号人物,关于 SPCA

的历史,你可能不知道

的是,它的成立是为了杀死

猫狗,城市给了他们一份章程,

以摆脱流浪动物

街上并摧毁它们,在典型的

一年中,有 400 万只狗和猫

在被从街上铲走后的 24 小时内被杀死,其中大部分是在

被从街上挖走的 24 小时内内森和

他的老板看到这一点,他们无法

忍受,所以他们开始着手让

旧金山成为不 -杀 城市创造了一个

完整的城市

,除非狗和猫生病或

危险,否则不会被收养而不被杀死

,每个人都说

内森他的老板不可能去市

议会改变条例

,来自 SPCA 和人道庇护所

的人 全国各地飞到

旧金山作证反对他们说

这会伤害运动,

他们坚持下去是不人道的,内森

直接去了他

与关心这个

非专业人士的人联系的社区

,只有一对夫妇 多年来,

旧金山成为第一个

完全

由社区完全支持的零杀戮城市内森离开并前往

纽约汤普金斯县,一个

与旧金山不同的

地方,仍然是美国,他

再次做到了,他 从一个

光荣的狗捕手变成了彻底

改变社区,然后他

去了北卡罗来纳州,又做了一次

,他去了里诺,他 又做了一次

,当我想到 Nathan 做了什么

,我想到这里的人时,我是否

想到了想法,我想到了

创造一个想法传播想法的想法

有很多背后,我不知道

你是否 曾经参加过犹太婚礼,但

他们所做的是他们拿了一个灯泡,

然后把它砸碎了,现在有

很多原因和关于它的故事,

但一个原因是因为它表明

从之前到之后的变化是一个

时刻 我想说的是,

我们正在经历并且正处于

思想创造、传播和

实施方式发生变化的关键时刻,我们从工厂理念开始,

如果你有一个高效的工厂

,你可以改变整个世界 可能会发生变化,然后我们

转向电视创意,如果你有

足够大的喉舌,如果你能上

电视足够多的时间,如果你能买足够多的

广告,你就能赢,现在我们处于这种

新的领导模式, 我们

做出改变的方式不是我们 金钱或

权力来撬动系统,但通过领导

让我谈谈三个

周期 第一个是工厂周期 亨利福特

想出了一个非常酷的想法,它

使他能够雇用过去每天获得

50 美分报酬的人 每天付他 5

美元 因为他

在工厂里很高效 有

这样的优势 你可以生产

很多汽车 你可以做出很多改变

你可以修路 你可以改变

整个国家的结构

你所做的事情的本质是你需要

越来越便宜的劳动力和越来越快的

机器而我们遇到的问题

是我们正在耗尽越来越

便宜的劳动力和越来越快的机器

所以我们换档一分钟然后 说我

知道电视广告推销

采用了一个好主意并将其推向

世界

你可以把婴儿放在你的

如有必要,您可以使用婴儿来出售

其他东西,如果婴儿不工作,您

可以使用医生,但要小心,因为

当您谈论

一件事而不是另一件事时,您不希望出现不幸的并列这个

模型 要求你表现得像国王

一样,就像房间前面的人

把东西扔给后面的苦工一样,

现在你负责了,你

要告诉人们下一步该做什么你

知道它的快速小图

你是不是在这里,你正在把

它推向世界

这种方法大众营销需要

普通的想法,因为你

要去大众和大量的广告我们

所做的垃圾邮件发送者试图催眠

每个人购买我们的想法 催眠

每个人为我们的事业捐款

催眠每个人为我们的

候选人投票,不幸的是,它

也不再那么好用了,

但有好消息指日可待,

真的好消息我称之为部落的想法

部落是什么 一个非常简单的

概念,可以追溯到五万

年前它是关于领导和联系

人们和想法,这是

人们永远想要的东西很多

人习惯于拥有一个精神

部落或一个教会部落拥有一个工作

部落拥有一个社区部落但现在

多亏了互联网 多亏

了大众媒体的爆炸式增长 多亏了

许多其他事情正在

世界各地的社会

沸腾

这里有红帽女士们

那里有红帽铁人三项运动员那里

有组织良好的军队这里

有杂乱无章的反叛者

这里有戴白帽子的人在做食物

和戴白帽子的人在

帆船上 你可以找到乌克兰

民间舞者并与他们建立联系,

因为你想要联系

边缘的人们可以找到

彼此 连接并去某个地方 每个

有志愿消防队的城镇都

明白这种

思维方式

现在事实证明这是一张合法的

非photoshop照片 我认识

的消防员告诉我,这并不

少见,消防员

有时会做火车 他们拿了一栋

将要被拆除的房子,然后

把它烧掉,而不是在实践中将

其熄灭,但他们总是停下来

拍照,这样你就知道海盗部落是

一个迷人的人,他们得到了旗帜

他们得到了眼罩,你可以 告诉

你什么时候遇到部落里的某个人,

事实证明是部落

而不是金钱而不是工厂可以改变

我们的世界,改变政治

,让大量的人

团结起来,不是因为你强迫他们

违背自己的意愿做某事,而是 因为他们

想把我们现在谋生的事情联系起来,

我认为我们所有人都是找到

值得改变的东西,然后

组建部落,组建

部落传播这个想法和 传播这个想法

,它变成了比我们更大的东西

,它变成了一场运动,所以当

阿尔·戈尔开始再次改变世界

时,他没有自己

做,也没有通过购买大量广告来

做到这一点,他做到了 通过发起一场运动

,全国成千上万的人可以

为他做演讲,因为他

不能每晚都在 100 或 200 或 500 个城市

你不需要每个人

凯文凯利告诉我们的是你只

需要我 不认识一千个真正的粉丝

一千个足够关心

他们会让你进入下一轮的

人 这不是大众的事情,

这不是关于它的意义,

而是寻找真正的信徒

领导

所以这里有两个领导他们

没有太多的交流 他们的

年龄差不多,但就是这样,他们所做的

虽然是每个人都以自己的方式

创造了一种不同的方式在技术中导航,

所以有些

人会出去让人们

加入一个团队,有些人会得到

加入另一个团队的人 它还可以告知

您在制作产品或服务时所做的决定,

您知道这

是我最喜欢的设备之一,但

遗憾的是,它没有组织起来帮助

作者创造运动,

如果您是 使用您的 Kindle,

您可以看到当时与您阅读同一本书

的所有其他人

或您的书组或

您的朋友或您想要的圈子的评论、引用和笔记

如果作者或有想法的人会发生什么

可以使用周一发布的第二版,

并用它来

组织想要谈论

某事的人

e 披头士乐队并没有发明

青少年,他们只是决定领导

他们,我们正在做的大多数运动,大多数领导力

都是寻找

一个不连贯但

已经渴望不说服人们

想要他们还没有的东西的团体,而

戴安娜帽子 制作 meatrix 她的

视频在互联网上传播,

讲述农场动物的

待遇方式

她没有发明成为

素食主义者的想法 她没有发明

关心这个问题的想法,但她

帮助组织人们 把它变成

一种运动

Hugo Chavez 没有发明

不满的委内瑞拉中下阶层,

他只是领导他们 Bob Marley

没有发明 Rastafarians,他只是

站出来说跟我来 Derek

Siver 发明的 CD Baby 让

独立音乐家有一个地方

出售他们的音乐而不是出卖给

那个男人,以便有一个地方来承担

他们已经想去的任务

并相互联系所有这些

人所拥有的 共同点是

异端 异端看

现状 说这样

不行 不喜欢这样,而不是

查看所有的小规则并

遵循其中的每一个

,而不是成为我所说的羊沃克,而不是像我所说的

那样半睡半醒的人

按照指示保持

低头适应每

隔一段时间有人说 并说不是我

有人站出来说这个很

重要 我们需要围绕它组织

起来 不是每个人都会 但你不需要

每个人 你只需要几个人

会看规则的人意识到他们

没有意义并意识到有多少 他们希望

建立联系,所以 Tony Hsieh 不

经营鞋店

Zappos 不是鞋店 Zappos 是

唯一最好的

地方,让穿鞋的人

互相争斗,谈论他们对交流的

热情 与那些

更关心客户服务而不是

明天赚钱的人在一起,这可能是平淡无奇的问题,也可能是

像推翻政府这样复杂的问题。

这是完全相同的行为,

尽管正如杰拉尔丁·卡特

发现的那样,它需要能够说我

我自己做不到,但如果我能让其他

人加入我的气候之旅,

那么我们就可以得到我们

都想要的东西我们只是在等待有人

带领我们米歇尔考夫曼开创

了环境建筑的新思维方式,

她没有 不要通过

一次悄悄地建造一所房子来

做到这一点,她通过向想听故事的人讲故事来做到这一点,

通过领导一场运动和做出改变

来联系一群渴望彼此联系的人

围绕它,我会

向你提出三个

问题 quo 第二个问题

是你在与谁建立联系,因为对于很多

人来说,

这就是他们在彼此之间建立联系的原因

,第三个问题是

你在领导谁,

因为专注于它的那一部分 不是

你正在建造的东西的机制,

而是谁和主导部分

是改变发生的地方,所以你知道

TOMS 鞋的 Blake 有一个非常简单的想法,

如果每次有人

买一双这样的鞋,我给出的结果

完全相同,会发生什么 与

甚至没有一双鞋的人配对 这

不是关于如何

在 Neiman Marcus 获得货架空间的故事,而是一个讲述故事的

产品的故事,当你

穿着这双非凡的

鞋子和某人走来走去 说

你能代表布莱克讲什么

代表

得到鞋子的人 突然间不是一

双鞋 100 双鞋 而是

数万双鞋

我的朋友红色麦克斯韦花了最后

10年 在与青少年

糖尿病作

斗争并与之抗争的组织中与他们抗争不远,

领导他们将他们联系起来,

挑战现状,因为这对

他和他周围的人很重要,

他们需要联系,他们需要

领导,这会有所作为你

不需要' 不需要人们的许可来

领导他们,但如果你在这里,

他们正在等待我们正在等待你向

我们展示下一步该去哪里所以这就是

领导者的共同点,第一件事

就是他们挑战现状,他们

挑战目前的情况

第二件事是他们建立一种文化 一种

秘密语言 七秒钟的握手

一种知道你进出的方式

他们

对部落中的人有好奇心 对

局外人的好奇心 他们在问他们的问题

将人们彼此联系起来 你

知道人们最想要什么

他们想要被错过 他们想要被

错过 他们不出现的那一天 他们

想要 o 当他们离开时会被怀念,

部落领袖可以做到这一点,这很

有趣,因为所有部落领袖

都有魅力,但你不需要

魅力才能成为领袖

成功了,这就是魅力

来自领导,最后他们

承诺他们承诺他们承诺的原因他们

承诺的部落他们承诺

那里的人所以我希望

你为我做点什么,我希望

你会考虑 在你拒绝

之前我想让你做的就是

只需要24小时就是创造一个动作

重要的事情开始做它

我们需要它非常感谢你

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