Tourettes Syndrome I swear its no joke

thank you very much

everybody and thank you so much for

inviting me to your annual tedx

um annual event at bath i’m delighted to

be here the topic of

my talk uh this morning tourette’s

syndrome i swear it’s no joke

draws from research that dr molina mali

from the university of oxford and i have

been doing over a number of years

and in this research we have been

exploring

people’s attitudes towards tourette’s

syndrome

and also exploring the the lives of

individuals with tourette’s and the way

that tourette’s

affects their daily living

and this topic of joke

and human uh was not something that

we had set out specifically to to look

at

however in our most recent research

where

we did some qualitative survey

uh research of 68 people

with tourette’s and then followed up by

16 in-depth interviews

the aspect of joking and humor really

came out and resonated and

it it also um it also

fitted in with some controversy that

occurred last year at edinburgh’s fringe

festival because the edinburgh fringe

funniest joke award

was presented to a comedian called olaf

falafel

and the winning joke was this

i keep randomly shouting out broccoli

and cauliflower i think i may have

to florets and this was

controversial because whilst many people

with tourette’s

syndrome didn’t think that there was

anything wrong with that joke at all

but actually it was a rather clever play

on words

there was also a sense that jokes like

that

helped to perpetuate myths about ticks

and about tourette’s syndrome yet over

the years

jokes about tourette’s have resonated

and they’ve also shaped what people

think about the condition

but in a very narrow and specific way

so this um this theme if you like

of people joking about tourettes came up

in our most

recent research and i just want to thank

all of the research participants um

and also to gerald harris and dan zarin

comedians who

have tourettes themselves for their time

and their willingness to talk to us

and i also can acknowledge anybody out

there listening this morning

and that has tourette’s syndrome

themselves

and and also to comedians now you also

know because of that introduction that

this

idea of humor and joking also is

uh close to my own heart because

although i’m a professor of

social policy i have also done stand-up

uh comedy in the past

and i can’t tell you whether i was ever

very good at it

but the fact that i’m clearly not a

well-known comedian

and the fact that i’m still a professor

of social policy

shows that it wasn’t a career move for

me

before i talk about what comedians with

tourette’s are actually doing

in relation to this topic let’s uh

briefly

look at tourette’s syndrome in more

detail

next slide please sorry i’m doing this

like myself

okay so uh it tourette’s syndrome in

terms of prevalence

in the uk around about one percent of

the uk population

has tourettes and that mirrors

global prevalence so it’s not an

insignificant

amount of people that we’re really

talking about

what we know about the condition is it’s

a neurodevelopmental condition

at childhood onset and there are more

males than females with it and it is

characterized by ticks

so for a diagnosis one would have to

have

multiple motor tics so that would

include eye blinking

eye rolling involuntary movements

of hands or head for example and at

least

one vocal or phonic tick present for a

year for the diagnosis

and vocal or phonic tics would

include maybe unusual sounds or noises

such as squeaking

or vocalizations uh such as echolalia

which means repeating words of other

people or coprolalia

which refers to swearing or

shouting out obscenities now the ticks

usually peak in adolescence but they may

diminish

in frequency and intensity by adulthood

and 80 percent of people with tourette’s

have additional conditions for example

um ocd so obsessive compulsive disorder

or adhd attention deficit

hyperactive disorder but

people with tourette’s it’s not a

homogeneous group it’s a heterogeneous

group of people everyone is individual

and so everyone

will have their own repertoire of tics

and they may

some pers people may have some

particular ticks and other people

won’t have those same ticks

and through among many

other aspects are the testimonies that

people gave us and and what they told us

about their lives

uh were that the ticks can be very

debilitating and it can be

incredibly painful and also sometimes

dangerous so

if you think about somebody um cooking

and they have uncontrollable movements

then that could actually be problematic

um

so in order to authenticate our research

we’re using quotes here so you’ll see a

lot of these quotes and these four

are quotes that we have from people with

tourette syndrome

from our participants so here’s one

about the impact on day-to-day lives

then it used to be really uncomfortable

you know some of the ticks because i

used to stretch my mouth

open so much and so often i used to get

sores

down the side of my mouth from the

constant stretching of the skin

and another one your eye and eyeball

swell because you tick that match

and then another quote my voice cracks

and squeaks every once in a while so i

get

i guess i get a number of people who

have picked on me and so

this is the reality uh for people who

have um ticks

and although there’s a general awareness

within society of tourette’s it’s

um we can say that it’s very

narrow and limited and unfortunately

this has impacted on people’s uh

lives and what people were telling us

about the stigmatization that they felt

as they were growing up

so one person saying on a saturday at a

pub and i’ll be making noises he

his father would be absolutely furious

with me because he felt i was showing

him up so

the idea that families um

don’t necessarily or haven’t in the past

necessarily known

um what tourette’s is and of course

diagnosis has

not always been forthcoming because

medicine hasn’t quite caught on

unfortunately

um with the science in terms of

tourette’s and then another person which

is maybe even more

tragic i was hidden in the cupboards and

the rooms i was never taken out into

public

i was even kept away from my own family

except from my grandparents

and then in school really

teachers again not knowing necessarily

what it was about particular children

that was different not really

understanding why

so this person saying i was just a

naughty boy in school

and then after my diagnosis i was a

naughty boy

with a label so even when they had that

diagnosis that actually schools

had not caught up and hadn’t really

understood what it meant

we also found that within employment

that there were barriers

and there were blockages in terms of

employment and that people

were discriminated against and that in

terms of employers not making

reasonable adjustments and not

necessarily

thinking they even had to for people

with tourette’s syndrome

so this person saying working in a bar

and stressful nights and you start

ticking

and people start asking questions poking

fun at you drunk

and you try and speak to your employer

about it i need to stop right now i need

to pull myself

away or go home or something because

it’s going to make me worse

and they don’t understand that and then

another exam example very big office

very open plan and obviously i started

noises and stuff

not as bad but obviously they were

audible and then after about seven days

the contract came to an abrupt end and i

was basically told

you’re not needed anymore so really

feeling that

even though um people with tourette’s

syndrome very

uh just like anyone else in the in the

general population very

gifted and very intelligent

and having you know would be really

fantastic

employees that actually uh a prejudice

and discriminated

against and then yet there were other

people who

really told us about the richness of

their lives um

that they have great relationships that

they have been able to go through those

barriers

um that have tried to uh prevent them

from self-actualizing if you like and

that they

really have great careers um and

this quote exemplifies this my wife

loves my tourette she loves it and it

has taken me a year and a half to accept

that that is fine

she thinks it is adorable and hilarious

and sweet and she encourages me and

praises me

and it makes life wonderful but it is

difficult even to accept

that people accept all my in in

idiosyncratic crusty

sorry um and here you have somebody then

who exemplifies a range of people who uh

even though life is sweet for them in

many ways

they still have this duality of where

they maybe don’t feel accepted by

society or not quite accepted by society

and one of the

common themes that came up out of this

recent research

was this myth that the mythology of

tourette’s just being a swearing disease

and the fact that people hone in on that

and they pick out on that and that’s

what they talk about but they also make

fun of that and that

diminishes people with tourette’s to a

kind of a joke

and where our participants were saying

do you know what there’s nothing

funny there’s not it’s not a joke um

having those ticks and being awake all

night and then being exhausted the next

day and trying to go to work

when i’ve been up all night you know

ticking so this person’s saying every

time you see it on tv they always pick

on the swearing and then make fun of it

and of course the the problem with all

of this

is that swearing on coprolalia is only

in about ten percent of people with

tourette’s they

don’t have a lot of people don’t have

that um tick

and this person say because i don’t

suffer it it’s not something i can link

to and identify with

swearing sells tourettes to the media so

this complete

kind of um misnomer this complete

mythology

of what tourette’s really is but

actually that’s what’s been

picked up so joking aside then

that what what we did with this was that

um finding this idea led us to begin to

talk to comedians themselves with

tourette’s and they’re

i was surprised myself that there’s a

there’s a growing number of comedians

uh other people with tourettes in

different art forms as well

um in the theater and in music but there

is this growing number of people

who are comedians and who are using

their own jokes

in their stand-up sets and they are

really acknowledging and showing us that

humor

is a powerful tool and what they say

about these kinds of jokes that just

focus

on swearing is this i just find that

typically people are very lazy about how

they write

the joke and they just continue to use a

stereotype but the only tip

is swearing and shouting out obscenities

and so this idea that it’s not a clever

joke

that it’s kind of lazy the default

position is to mock people

and then this other comedian is saying

if any

if everyone does a coprolalia joke and

everyone remembers that joke that’s why

people continue that joke

because that’s all they hear and so

again uh

let’s turn this on its head and start

thinking about

um who really has the experience to

actually say and use and write jokes

about tourettes

well it’s the comedians themselves and

they feel that they’re

on a bit of a mission um to

educate people to make people laugh but

use their own experiences

of tourette’s and write jokes about

those

and this person saying i’m normalizing

that here is a person on stage showing

who he is

i am just showing you the um that this

is what it is like to be someone like me

and it’s not that different from you

and some of these comedians have told us

that they actually find it quite

therapeutic going on stage

because they can they feel that they can

think because in other aspects of their

lives and for most of their lives

they’ve been trying to repress the ticks

and that’s very that’s very difficult

for them to do so when they’re on stage

they can just pick as much as they they

that you know

they don’t have to repress it or

suppress it

um and then secondly we’re not making

fun of the disorder so we’re not mocking

uh we’re not making fun of the disorders

or the syndromes we are doing it in a

way

of showing that we have been through we

are not laughing at people’s experiences

and then i like educating people through

comedy of what i have been through

i i kind of use it as a way of just

telling people

how it really is as opposed to the lazy

swearing jokes which

i don’t think are even that great

and their strategy does seem to be

working uh

and so people they’ve been becoming very

successful they

they doing their sets to stand out

audiences

um people are coming to see them again

and again

and they’ve had people come up to them

and say things like this i have had

people come up to me and say that they

had

no idea that tourette syndrome was the

way i describe it

they had no idea that there were more

ticks they had no idea that motor tics

even existed and then another person i

have had somebody say

my son or my daughter has it and i am

going to bring them back to your show to

see it so this um

way of using humor

now as a shield and not necessarily a

sword

to um not to mock people but to enable

people to understand and it’s in a

sense this art form is being used in a

very very positive way

well um i’m going to uh leave

the last comment and you might say the

last laugh to one of the comedians

and of course this resonates with myself

um

in terms of what i was saying about

myself at the beginning of this

presentation i have always thought that

comedy is much more educative than a

lecture

because a lecture is something that you

know if it is not entertaining enough

or interesting enough people get bored

with it whereas

with comedy we can keep it light and fun

and we can still get our point across

well i hope that you have found this

interesting um

and i’ve been willing to talk about it

with you more and if you are interested

here are the references and uh some

references to

our work that we’ve been doing on

tourettes so

thank you very much

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来到这里

我今天早上演讲的主题 抽动秽语

综合征 我发誓这不是开玩笑

莫利纳博士的研究

来自牛津大学的 mali 和我

已经做了很多年了

,在这项研究中,我们一直在

探索

人们对抽动秽语综合征的态度,也探索抽动秽语

患者

的生活

以及抽动秽语

对他们日常生活的影响

以及这 笑话

和人类的话题不是

我们专门

研究的话题,但是在我们最近的研究

中,

我们

对 68 名

患有抽动秽语的人进行了一些定性调查,然后进行了

16 次深入

访谈 笑话和幽默真的

出来并引起了共鸣,

它也

符合

去年在爱丁堡边缘发生的一些争议

节日,因为爱丁堡边缘

最有趣的笑话

奖颁发给了一位名叫 olaf falafel 的喜剧演员

,而获奖的笑话是这个

我不断地大喊西兰花

和花椰菜,我想我可能

不得不小花,这是

有争议的,因为虽然许多

患有抽动秽语

综合征的人没有 根本不认为

这个笑话有什么问题,

但实际上这是一个相当聪明

的文字游戏。

还有一种感觉,像这样的笑话

有助于延续关于蜱虫

和抽动秽语综合征的神话,但多年来

关于抽动秽语的笑话引起了共鸣

他们也塑造了

人们对这种情况的看法,

但是以一种非常狭隘和具体的方式,

所以如果你

喜欢人们开玩笑说抽动秽语的这个主题出现

在我们

最近的研究中,我只想感谢

所有的研究 参与者 嗯

,还有 Gerald harris 和 dan zarin

喜剧演员,他们

自己有抽动症,因为他们的时间

和愿意 告诉我们

,我也可以承认

今天早上在那里听的任何人

,他们自己患有抽动秽语综合症

,还有喜剧演员现在你也

知道,因为那个介绍,

这种

幽默和开玩笑的想法也很

接近我自己的心,因为

虽然 我是

社会政策教授,我过去也做过单口喜剧

,我不能告诉你我是否曾经

很擅长,

但事实上我显然不是一个

著名的喜剧演员,

而且 我仍然是社会政策教授的事实

表明,

在我谈论患有

抽动秽语的喜剧演员实际上

在这个话题上所做的事情之前,这对我来说并不是一个职业生涯,让我们呃

简要地

看一下抽动秽语综合征接下来更

详细

幻灯片,对不起,我像我自己一样做这件事,

好吧,就英国的流行率而言,它是抽动秽语综合征

,英国约有 1%

的人口

患有抽动秽语,这反映了

全球流行率,所以这不是一个

无关紧要的问题

我们真正谈论的人数不多

,我们对这种疾病的了解是它是儿童期发病时的

一种神经发育疾病

男性多于女性,它的

特点是蜱虫,

所以要诊断,必须有

多个 运动性抽搐,

包括眨眼

眼球滚动

手或头的不自主运动,并且

至少有

一个声音或声音蜱存在

一年以进行诊断

,声音或声音抽搐

可能包括不寻常的声音或噪音,

例如吱吱声

或发声 呃,例如 echolalia

,这意味着重复其他

人的话或 coprolalia

,指的是咒骂或

大喊脏话 现在蜱

通常在青春期达到顶峰,但

到成年后它们的频率和强度可能会降低,

并且 80% 的抽动秽语

患者有其他条件,例如

嗯 ocd 所以强迫症

或注意力缺陷

多动障碍 b ut

抽动症的人 这不是一个

同质的群体 它是一个异质的

群体 每个人都是独立的

,所以每个人

都会有自己的抽动曲目

,他们可能

有些人可能有一些

特定的蜱虫,而其他人

不会有同样的蜱虫

和 除了许多

其他方面,还有

人们给我们的证词,以及他们告诉我们的

关于他们的生活,

嗯,蜱虫可能会

让人非常虚弱,它可能会

令人难以置信的痛苦,有时也很

危险,所以

如果你想到有人做饭

,他们 如果有无法控制的动作,

那么这实际上可能是有问题的,

所以为了验证我们的研究,

我们在这里使用了引用,所以你会看到

很多这样的引用,这四个

是我们从参与者那里得到的患有

抽动秽语综合征的人的引用,

所以 这是

关于对日常生活的影响的一个,

然后它曾经真的很不舒服,

你知道一些蜱虫,因为我

曾经伸展 我的

嘴张得很大,而且我

经常因为皮肤的不断拉伸而在我的嘴边生疮

,另一个你的眼睛和眼球

肿胀,因为你勾选了那个匹配

,然后另一个引用我的声音

每 偶尔,所以我

明白了,

我想我有很多

人选择了我,所以

对于那些有蜱虫的人来说,这就是现实,嗯

,尽管

社会普遍意识到抽动秽语是这样的

,但我们可以说它是 非常

狭窄和有限,不幸的是,

这影响了人们的

生活,以及人们告诉我们

他们在成长过程中感受到的耻辱,

所以一个人周六在

酒吧说,我会在他父亲身上发出声音

绝对会对

我大发雷霆,因为他觉得我出现在

他面前,

所以家人

不一定或过去不一定

知道抽动秽语是什么,当然

诊断并

没有 总是会出现,因为不幸的是,

医学还没有完全流行

起来 远离我自己的家人,

除了我的祖父母

,然后在学校里,

真的又是老师

是一个带有标签的

顽皮男孩

,所以即使他们有这样的

诊断,实际上学校

没有赶上并且没有真正

理解这意味着什么,

我们也发现在就业方面

存在障碍并且在

就业方面存在障碍并且 人们

受到了歧视,而且

就雇主而言,他们没有做出

合理的调整,也不

一定

认为他们甚至 必须为

患有抽动秽语综合症的人,

所以这个人说在酒吧工作

和压力很大的夜晚,你开始

滴答

作响,人们开始问问题

取笑你喝醉了

,你试着和你的雇主

谈谈这件事我需要现在停止我需要

把自己

拉开或回家之类的,因为

这会让我变得更糟

,他们不明白,然后是

另一个考试例子,非常大的办公室,

非常开放的计划,显然我开始发出

噪音和一些

不太糟糕的东西,但显然它们是可以

听到的,并且 然后在大约 7

天后合同突然结束,

我基本上被告知

不再需要你了,所以真的

觉得

即使是患有抽动秽语

综合征的人非常

呃就像普通人群中的其他人一样

非常

有天赋和非常 聪明

,让你知道将是

非常棒的

员工,实际上是偏见

歧视,但还有其他

真的告诉 我们关于他们生活的丰富性,

,他们有很好的关系,

他们已经能够克服那些

障碍,

嗯,

如果你愿意,他们试图阻止他们自我实现

,他们

真的有很棒的事业,嗯,

这句话就是例证 这是我的妻子

喜欢我的图雷特,她喜欢它,

我花了一年半的时间才接受

这很好,

她认为这很可爱,很搞笑

,很甜蜜,她鼓励我,

赞美我

,这让生活变得美好,但

很难 甚至

接受人们接受我所有的

特殊硬皮

对不起,嗯,在这里你有一个人

,他们举例说明了一系列的人,呃,

即使生活在很多方面对他们来说是甜蜜的,

他们仍然有这种

他们可能没有的双重性 感觉被

社会接受或不太被社会接受

,最近

这项研究提出的一个共同主题

是这个神话,即

图雷特的神话只是一个发誓的诅咒 轻松

,事实上,人们对此进行了磨练

,他们选择了这一点,这

就是他们谈论的内容,但他们也会

取笑这一点,这会使

患有抽动症的人变成

一种笑话

,我们的参与者在说

你知道吗 没什么

好笑的 不是

开玩笑 在电视上看到他们总是

挑起咒骂然后取笑

它当然所有这一切的问题

是在coprolalia上咒骂

只有大约百分之十的

抽动秽语他们

没有很多人 没有

那个呃勾号

,这个人说,因为我没有

受苦,这不是我可以

联系和认同

的东西 确实是,但

实际上这就是被捡起来的东西

,所以开玩笑

说我们对此所做的是,

嗯,发现这个想法导致我们开始

与有

抽动秽语的喜剧演员自己交谈,他们

让我自己感到惊讶,有一个

越来越多

的喜剧演员呃其他人在

不同的艺术形式以及

在剧院和音乐中都有抽动症,但是

有越来越多的

人是喜剧演员,他们在

他们的单口相声中使用自己的笑话

,他们是

真正承认并向我们展示

幽默

是一种强大的工具,他们

对这些只

专注

于咒骂的笑话的看法是这样的

但唯一的建议

是骂脏话和大喊脏话

,所以这个想法认为这不是一个聪明的

玩笑

,它有点懒惰默认

位置是嘲笑别人

,然后是另一个c omedian 是说

如果每个人都开了一个 coprolalia 笑话,

每个人都记得那个笑话,这就是为什么

人们继续这个笑话,

因为这就是他们所听到的全部,所以

再次,

让我们把它转过来,开始

思考

谁真的有经验去

实际说 并且很好地使用和写

关于抽动秽语的笑话,

这是喜剧演员自己,

他们觉得

他们有一点使命,嗯,

教育人们让人们发笑,但

利用他们自己

的抽动秽语经验,写关于

那些

和这个人说我的笑话 ‘我正在正常化

,这是一个在舞台上展示

他是谁的

人 实际上发现

在舞台上表演很有治疗作用,

因为他们觉得他们可以

思考,因为在他们生活的其他方面以及

他们一生中的大部分时间里,

他们一直在努力压抑 e 滴答

作响,这

对他们来说非常困难,所以当他们在舞台上时,

他们可以尽可能多地选择他们

,你知道

他们不必压制它或

压制它,

嗯,其次我们不是

取笑疾病,所以我们不是在

嘲笑我们不是在取笑疾病

或综合症 人们通过

我所经历的

喜剧来使用它来

告诉

人们它的真实情况,而不是懒惰的

脏话笑话,

我认为它们甚至没有那么好,

而且他们的策略似乎确实

有效 呃

,所以人们,他们已经变得非常

成功,

他们做他们的布景来让

观众

脱颖而出 由我决定并说他们

没有 认为抽动秽语综合症是

我描述的方式

他们不知道还有更多的

蜱虫 他们甚至不知道运动性抽动症的

存在 然后另一个人

我有人说

我的儿子或我的女儿有它,我

要带 他们回到你的节目中

观看它,所以这种

使用幽默的方式

现在作为盾牌,不一定是

一把剑

,嗯,不是为了嘲笑人们,而是为了让

人们理解,从

某种意义上说,这种艺术形式正在被非常广泛地使用

非常积极的方式,

嗯,我要

留下最后的评论,你可能会对

其中一位喜剧演员说最后的笑声

,当然这与我自己产生了

共鸣 我一直认为

喜剧比讲座更有教育意义,

因为如果讲座

不够

有趣或不够有趣,你就会知道,人们会

厌倦它,而

有了喜剧,我们可以让它轻松有趣

,而且 我仍然可以很好地理解我们的观点,

我希望你发现这个

有趣的

,我一直愿意

和你更多地谈论它,如果你有兴趣,

这里有一些参考资料,嗯

,我们工作的一些参考资料 一直在做

抽动症,所以

非常感谢