Qual o destino das personagens que criamos

Translator: Leonardo Silva
Reviewer: David DeRuwe

Hi everyone!

It’s Mauro Sousa speaking.

I have a story to tell you,

a story that is really important to me.

I call this story “Mariana’s Destiny.”

This story started in my mother’s womb -

yes, when I was inside her womb -

and, according to her,
I was in a position

where the ultrasound couldn’t identify
whether I was a boy or a girl.

She got just one ultrasound test
throughout her whole pregnancy.

So, until that moment,
I was a huge question mark for them.

But as my father was coming
from having six daughters before me -

six female children -

they were almost certain
I’d be the seventh, right?

So, even not knowing for sure,
that’s what they were anticipating.

That’s why, until the day I was born,
my name was Mariana.

My parents had not only decided
that my name would be Mariana,

but they were also picturing
Mariana’s destiny:

“She’ll have a great childhood,
good education, good college degree,

she’ll work -

so long as she keeps
the family business going -

she’ll get married, have children,
and she’ll live happily ever after.”

It’s worth mentioning that my parents
could afford to plan that for a daughter.

So that was from the perspective
of an economically privileged family.

Mariana, in this story,

represents exactly
all of those expectations

that had been built up for me

before I had even been born, you know.

So Mariana was a prototype;
she was the role model.

Because I’ll tell you what, folks:

being unsure about something
is always uncomfortable.

So we come up with names, answers,

we develop theories,

we create characters, or gods -

all because we’re afraid of the unkown.

So that’s how Mariana was created.

The year was 1986,

and the world’s reality
already dictated pattens to be followed.

Brazil had just been through
the dictatorship regime,

so sexism was already around,
dominating the collective unconscious.

Not that it’s different now,
but at that time, it was worse.

AIDS was spreading around the world
as the “gay cancer.”

Madonna was at the top of the charts,
breaking down taboos.

Denim jean outfits were everywhere.

The economy was weak.

And “Turma da Mônica”
was booming, you know.

The trademark that my father,
Mauricio de Sousa, had created

already was nationally known.

It was already putting out books, comics,

films, products, even TV shows -

that is, it was a success, an empire.

My father was already a reference
as an enterprising artist.

And there I was - or rather, Mariana -
amidst all of that,

about to be born.

And there’s something unique
about this story, my story -

I think, by the way, that that’s why
I’m here giving this TEDx talk.

Because I was born
to Mauricio de Sousa’s family,

I’m one of the characters
in “Turma da Mônica.”

So everyone already knew who I was,
without me having to do anything.

What I am, what I do, what I say
carries weight in itself,

and people’s expectations
about me are already high,

just to live up to this position
of “the son of Mauricio”.

It’s like I’m a high jump athlete

whose goal is to jump higher
than everyone else,

except that instead of starting
with the bar set low

and gradually going higher,

the bar I had to jump over was high
from the very beginning.

So I had to be someone already,
even though I wasn’t, yet.

But the question is:

is it a burden or a gift
to have your destiny plotted for you?

Then, finally, I was born!

“It’s a boy! It’s a boy!”

the doctor shouted,
grabbing me from my mother’s womb.

My father was holding a camera,

one of those old cameras,

and he was so thrilled
that he dropped the camera -

and that was recorded.

But then, I wasn’t Mariana.

I wasn’t what they
had dreamed about for nine months.

Not that that was a problem,

but, still, that was kind of
the first deconstruction of myself.

And at that moment,

this new gender didn’t change
the course of things much

because as it turned out, as a little kid,
I could already speak English,

I already played sports,

I already played musical instruments,

I studied in the best schools,

I was healthy -

all of this so that I could be
that perfect person,

just like Mariana.

I’m so grateful for all those
opportunities that I was provided with,

but I wasn’t Mariana.

And then?

Then Mariana became
my own unconscious judge,

like that tiny little devil

or that tiny little ghost
speaking in your ears or your mind,

sentencing you if you deviate
from the norms of the system.

After all, I was predestined.

So even when I was still very little,
I already had to face dos and don’ts.

At eight, nine years old, for example,

I loved to play with Barbie dolls,
with my sister Marina.

So, I would comb their hair,

I would change their clothes,

I would do “fashion shows” -

to me, that was awesome -

but I would play secretly
because Mariana already reprimanded me:

“Boys play with toy cars.”

It might sound like a silly example,
like a minor thing,

but to me, it wasn’t.

The conflict between wanting to play,

not allowing myself to,
and not understanding exactly why

made me become a child
who was much more insecure,

more isolated, and more frustrated -

and no kid deserves that.

I really believe in free childhood.

I couldn’t even be fat.

At the age of 12, I already weighed
more than what I weigh today.

So I’d wear baggy clothes.

I’d tie sweatshirts around my waist
like this to hide it, even in the summer.

I would -

Well,

I wanted to be like the Barbie dolls,

that were thin and blonde.

And Mariana would confirm that.

She’d say, “Mauro, you’ve got to be thin.”

By playing with the dolls,
I would magically become them,

since being myself
wasn’t that interesting.

It was around that time,
at about the age of 12,

that I realized that I was gay.

As homosexuality wasn’t discussed

in schools, on TV, at home, anywhere -

or rather, it was discussed,
but always in a pejorative way -

that was how I felt,

like an embarrassment.

I felt sorry for myself.

Although I hadn’t been born
to a religious family,

and hadn’t had a religious
or confessional education -

in a country that is religious though -

Mariana would warn me,

“God created man and woman.

Gays can’t raise a family,

can’t procreate -

it’s a sin.”

That’s what it was like for me
until I turned 18.

That was when I finally came out
to my family and to my friends.

So years of lies had passed,

years of pain,

of hiding, of living in the closet.

I envied Mariana.

I hated her.

But what I didn’t know

was that while I
was figuring out the world,

my parents were figuring me out.

Unlike me, they already saw Mauro.

They no longer saw Mariana,
especially my mother.

Always very attentive and sensitive,

she’d been watching me for a long time,

and she’d been waiting
for the right moment to talk to me.

I remember it quite well;
it was a Sunday night.

I was really sad.

She noticed it, and she seized
that moment of my frailty

to take the initiative to talk with me.

She told me …

She told me she knew everything:

that she knew I was gay;

that she knew that
I’d been dating Márcio, my ex;

and that she loved me,
exactly the way I was.

Then she hugged me,

and I plunged into her arms,

in tears,

tears of liberation,

of relief,

of happiness,

of love.

If God exists, she is my mother.

She saved my life.

She gave me a future.

That was the most important day of all

because since then,
I’ve been able to express my feelings,

my ideas, myself.

I was born again,

and that was when Mariana,
the villain, was defeated.

Because it’s amazing, folks,
how sexuality guides our lives,

much more than we can imagine,

for the good or the bad,

and family support is what guides us
in the right direction.

Sexuality and family have to be in tune.

As soon as my family and I aligned,

all of a sudden, very quickly,
I became a superhero

to myself.

When I thought I should behave
in a certain way,

I had the courage to have doubts,

to be vulnerable,

to be contradictory,

to be “imperfect.”

I allow myself to like Barbies,

I allow myself to eat without guilt,

I allow myself to be effeminate.

I allow myself, as an entrepreneur,
to be more unattached from labels,

and I’m very proud of my origins.

I’m very proud of working with my family.

In other words,

despite everything that happened -

I’m getting a little emotional.

All these considerations, though,

have a daily impact
on all the aspects of my life,

from my professional life -

I’m now the director
of the department of shows,

presentations, and amusement parks
in my father’s company.

Of course, in addition to the projects
related to my department,

I’ve also been engaged in bringing in
this culture of diversity and inclusion,

of deconstruction and innovation.

This is in the hope that we can be,

for the families
and the children who like us,

the role model and the reference
that I didn’t have growing up.

Of course it also impacts
my personal life, my love life,

with Rafael, my husband,

with whom I’ve been together
for 13 years now,

and with whom I have
a perfectly imperfect life.

And that was how Mariana’s story ended.

My evolving was the weapon
I used against her

because I believe -

and it might sound romantic,
but I’d rather see it as optimism -

I believe in evolving.

I do think that we are better today
than we were yesterday,

and that we’ll be better tomorrow,

including when it comes
to respecting individualities,

because evolving
is inherent in us as humans,

and denial is like
shooting yourself in the foot.

Not that I don’t keep
creating projections of myself

and living for them.

I still get a little confused
about who I really am,

in terms of whether what I am is genuine

or if I’m just following social pressure
over what I need to be,

but at least, it’s not Mariana anymore.

That one’s gone.

Now I create other characters,

maybe Cláudias or Robertos or Marias.

How about you?

What’s the destiny of the characters
that you create for yourselves?

Thank you.

译者:Leonardo Silva
审稿人:David DeRuwe

大家好!

是毛罗·索萨说话。

我有一个故事要告诉你,

一个对我来说非常重要的故事。

我把这个故事称为“玛丽安娜的命运”。

这个故事始于我母亲的子宫——

是的,当我在她的子宫里时

——据她说,
我处于

超声波无法
识别我是男孩还是女孩的位置。 在整个怀孕期间,

她只接受了一次超声波检查

所以,直到那一刻,
我对他们来说都是一个巨大的问号。

但由于我父亲
在我之前有六个女儿——

六个女孩——

他们几乎可以肯定
我会是第七个,对吧?

因此,即使不确定,
这也是他们所期待的。

这就是为什么直到我出生那天,
我的名字都是玛丽安娜。

我的父母不仅
决定我的名字将是玛丽安娜,

而且他们也在想象
玛丽安娜的命运:

“她会有一个美好的童年,
良好的教育,良好的大学学位,

她会工作 -

只要她
保持家族企业 去——

她会结婚,生子
,从此过上幸福的生活。”

值得一提的是,我的父母
有能力为女儿计划。

所以这是
从一个经济上享有特权的家庭的角度来看的。

玛丽安娜,在这个故事中,

恰恰代表了

在我出生之前为我建立的所有期望,你知道的。

所以玛丽安娜是一个原型;
她是榜样。

因为我会告诉你,伙计们:

对某事
不确定总是不舒服。

所以我们想出名字、答案

、发展理论

、创造人物或神——

这一切都是因为我们害怕未知。

这就是玛丽安娜的创作方式。

那是 1986 年

,世界的现实
已经决定了要遵循的模式。

巴西刚刚经历
了独裁政权,

所以性别歧视已经存在,
主导着集体无意识。

不是现在不同,
而是那个时候,情况更糟。

艾滋病
作为“同性恋癌症”在世界范围内蔓延。

麦当娜在排行榜上名列前茅,
打破了禁忌。

牛仔牛仔裤随处可见。

经济疲软。

你知道,“Turma da Mônica”
正在蓬勃发展。

我父亲
毛里西奥·德·索萨 (Mauricio de Sousa) 创建的商标

已经享誉全国。

它已经在推出书籍、漫画、

电影、产品,甚至电视节目——

也就是说,它是一个成功的帝国。

我父亲已经
是一位有进取心的艺术家的参考。

而我——或者更确切地说,玛丽安娜——就
在这一切之中,

即将出生。

这个故事有一些独特之处
,我的故事——

顺便说一句,我想这就是
我在这里做这个 TEDx 演讲的原因。

因为我出生
于毛里西奥·德·索萨(Mauricio de Sousa)的家庭,

所以我是
“Turma da Mônica”中的角色之一。

所以每个人都已经知道我是谁,
而我不必做任何事情。

我是什么,我做什么,我说什么
本身就有分量

,人们
对我的期望已经很高,

只为不辜负
这个“毛里西奥之子”的地位。

就像我是一名跳高运动员,

其目标是
比其他人跳得更高,

只是我从一开始就不是
从低杆开始

逐渐提高,

而是我必须跳过的杆很高

所以我必须已经成为某个人,
即使我还不是。

但问题是:

为你安排好自己的命运是一种负担还是一种礼物?

然后,终于,我出生了!

“是男孩!是男孩!”

医生大叫,
把我从妈妈的子宫里拽了出来。

我父亲拿着一台相机,

其中一台旧相机

,他激动不已
,以至于把相机掉了

下来——那是被记录下来的。

但那时,我不是玛丽安娜。

我不是他们
九个月以来的梦想。

并不是说那是个问题,

但是,这仍然是
我对自己的第一次解构。

在那一刻,

这种新的性别并没有
太大改变事情的进程,

因为事实证明,作为一个小孩,
我已经会说英语,

我已经玩过运动,

我已经玩过乐器,

我学习最好 学校,

我很健康——

所有这一切都是为了让我成为
那个完美的人,

就像玛丽安娜一样。

我非常感谢为
我提供的所有这些机会,

但我不是玛丽安娜。

接着?

然后玛丽安娜变成了
我自己的无意识法官,

就像那个小恶魔

或那个小鬼一样
在你的耳朵或你的脑海里说话,

如果你
偏离了系统的规范,就会对你进行判刑。

毕竟,我是命中注定的。

因此,即使在我还很小的时候,
我就已经不得不面对该做什么和不该做什么。

例如,八九岁时

,我喜欢和姐姐玛丽娜一起玩芭比娃娃

所以,我会给他们梳头,

给他们换衣服,

我会做“时装秀”——

对我来说,这太棒了——

但我会偷偷玩,
因为玛丽安娜已经训斥过我:

“男孩们玩玩具车。”

这可能听起来像一个愚蠢的例子,
像一件小事,

但对我来说,它不是。

想要玩,

不允许自己玩,
以及不明白为什么

让我成为一个
更不安全、

更孤立、更沮丧的

孩子之间的冲突——没有孩子值得这样。

我真的相信自由的童年。

我什至不能胖。

在 12 岁时,我的体重已经
超过了今天的体重。

所以我会穿宽松的衣服。 即使在夏天,

我也会像这样将运动衫系在腰间
以隐藏它。

我会——

嗯,

我想像芭比娃娃一样

,又瘦又金发。

玛丽安娜会证实这一点。

她会说,“毛罗,你一定要瘦。”

通过玩洋娃娃,
我会神奇地变成他们,

因为做我自己
并不是那么有趣。

大约在那个时候
,大约在 12 岁时

,我意识到自己是同性恋。

因为

在学校、电视、家里、任何地方都没有讨论过同性恋——

或者更确切地说,它被讨论过,
但总是以贬义的方式——

这就是我的感受,

就像一种尴尬。

我为自己感到难过。

虽然我没有出生
在一个宗教家庭,

也没有接受过宗教
或忏悔教育——

尽管在一个有宗教信仰的国家——

玛丽安娜会警告我,

“上帝创造了男人和女人。

同性恋不能养家糊口 ,

不能生育——

这是一种罪过。”

这就是
我 18 岁之前的情况。

那是我终于
向家人和朋友出柜的时候。

多年的谎言,

多年的痛苦

,躲藏,生活在壁橱里,就这样过去了。

我羡慕玛丽安娜。

我恨她。

但我不知道的

是,当我
在搞清楚这个世界的时候,

我的父母也在搞清楚我。

不像我,他们已经看到了毛罗。

他们不再见到玛丽安娜,
尤其是我的母亲。 她

总是非常专心和敏感,

她已经注视了我很长时间,

并且一直在
等待合适的时机与我交谈。

我记得很清楚;
那是一个星期天的晚上。

我真的很难过。

她注意到了,抓住
了我脆弱的那一刻,

主动和我说话。

她告诉我……

她告诉我她什么都知道

:她知道我是同性恋;

她知道
我一直在和我的前任马尔西奥约会;

并且她爱我,
就像我一样。

然后她拥抱了我

,我扑进她的怀里,

泪流满面,解放的泪水,解脱的泪水

,幸福的泪水

,爱的泪水。

如果上帝存在,她就是我的母亲。

她救了我的命。

她给了我一个未来。

那是最重要的一天,

因为从那时起,
我已经能够表达我的感受、

我的想法和我自己。

我重生了

,就在那时
,反派玛丽安娜被打败了。

伙计们,因为令人惊奇的是,
性如何引导我们的生活,无论好坏,

远远超出我们的想象,

而家庭支持引导
我们走向正确的方向。

性和家庭必须协调一致。

一旦我和家人结盟,

突然之间,很快,
我就成为了自己的超级英雄

当我认为我应该
以某种方式行事时,

我有勇气去怀疑,

去脆弱,

去矛盾,

去“不完美”。

我允许自己喜欢芭比娃娃,

我允许自己毫无愧疚地吃东西,

我允许自己变得柔弱。

作为一名企业家,我允许自己
更加独立于标签

,我为自己的出身感到非常自豪。

我很自豪能和我的家人一起工作。

换句话说,

尽管发生了一切——

我还是有点情绪化。

然而,所有这些考虑

因素每天都会影响
到我生活的方方面面,

从我的职业生涯开始——

我现在是我父亲公司
的表演、

演示和游乐园部门的主管

当然,除了
与我部门相关的项目之外,

我还致力于引入
这种多元化和包容性

、解构和创新的文化。

这是希望我们能够成为,

对于喜欢我们的家庭和孩子

,我成长过程中没有的榜样和参考。

当然,这也影响了
我的个人生活,我的爱情生活,

我的丈夫拉斐尔,

我和他在一起
已经 13 年了,

我和他一起
过着完美的生活。

玛丽安娜的故事就这样结束了。

我的进化是
我用来对付她的武器,

因为我相信

——这听起来可能很浪漫,
但我更愿意将其视为乐观——

我相信进化。

我确实认为我们今天
比昨天

更好,明天我们会更好,

包括
在尊重个性方面,

因为进化
是我们人类与生俱来的

,否认就像是
在踢自己的脚。

并不是说我不继续
创造自己的投射

并为他们而活。

我仍然
对我的真实身份感到有些困惑

,无论我是真实的

还是我只是在追随社会
压力,我需要成为什么样的人,

但至少,它不再是玛丽安娜了。

那个没了

现在我创作了其他角色,

可能是克劳迪亚斯、罗伯托斯或玛丽亚斯。

你呢?

你为自己创造的角色的命运是什么

谢谢你。