How photography can shape history

[Music]

last year

over 1 trillion photographs were taken

1 trillion

that’s a pretty amazing number if you

think about it and many of you

contributed to that number with

photographs of your family of your

friends of your experiences

they all fill the digital world of

content

photographs of your favorite pets

perhaps your favorite lunch

all of those photographs

represent something to you

take a moment and think about an image

that means something to you

over the last 30 years

during my career i have focused on

raising awareness about human rights

i have photographed in over 100

countries

i have documented over 25 conflicts

when i’m asked

why do you do that

why do you think there’s value in

photographs why do you think there’s

value in risking your life to take

photographs

the questions are quite good the answers

are those that

form the foundation of why i do what i

do

and they’re also the reason why

i’m directing a film called biography of

a photo which examines the lives of two

of my photographs

so

to kind of step back a little bit and

help answer the questions i bring you

back to the year 1989

another period another world i’m a young

photographer working in new york

i want to be an international

photographer

i was photographing an event

and i see this photographer on the

street and he looks like the

quintessential international

photojournalist press credentials the

right cameras the very important

photojournalism scarf so i said okay

this is a guy i should talk to

i introduced myself his name was chris

morris

and i said chris

where are you going next

and chris said i’m going to panama

so chris that’s amazing i’m also going

to panama i didn’t know where panama was

i didn’t know what’s happening in panama

but if this guy was going to panama that

was the place to go if you wanted to be

an international photographer

the story in panama was that was being

run by a dictator named general manuel

noriega

his relationship with the united states

had faltered and he decided to hold

elections to prove to the world that he

was loved by his people

i got an assignment to go and cover the

story i was very excited i was on my way

to becoming an international

photographer

just before i about to buy my plane

ticket

my assignment was canceled and i was

crushed

i had been working as a bike messenger

driving an ice cream truck i wasn’t

really surviving as a photographer so i

couldn’t afford to buy a plane ticket

i ran into chris and amazingly he had

just bought his ticket and the airline

had a buy one get one free special like

a revolution special and chris said you

can have my extra ticket

i said thank you and off we went to

panama to document the election

i started by selling photographs fifty

dollars at a time to john’s france press

a french wire service

i encountered my first situations of

violence tear gas rubber bullets clashes

between the opposition and government

supporters it was an eye-opening

experience

the dictator noriega held the election

he lost the election he then nullified

the results of the election

and the would-be victors came out onto

the street to start an uprising

they were met with serious violence

i was following the vice president-elect

and his entourage as they drove through

the streets

at one point they got stopped by police

and soldiers

and there was a standoff

all of a sudden

a group of men known as the dignity

battalion a paramilitary unit supporting

the dictator came running towards them

it was complete chaos

they had bats they had pistols and i was

trying to photograph and look around and

do whatever i could do

then at one point a man walked over to a

vehicle took out a pistol and fired

a gun

into the car

a few moments went by the door

eventually opened

a man staggered out of the car

covered in blood it took me a moment to

realize who he was

it was the vice president-elect

guillermo billy ford

as i moved toward him to photograph i

heard somebody say compromiso in spanish

excuse me and the man stepped around me

and began to attack the vice president

the vice president defended himself and

within moments the whole thing was over

i brought my film back to the afp office

the film was processed and transmitted

around the world

and here look at this photograph

carefully you see

the vice president

on the left covered in blood being

beaten as a soldier stands behind and

watches and does nothing

by the next day the photograph was on

the front page of newspapers around the

world

and by the end of the week was on the

covers of newsweek u.s news and time

magazine all in the same week

a unique moment for a

photographer i thought this

photojournalism thing is pretty easy you

go places you take pictures you get

covers

i’m going to become famous i’m going to

make lots and lots of money not true at

all

and i was pretty

for the next seven months the united

states tried to oust through diplomacy

the noriega government

they started to use the time magazine

cover as one of the reasons why

noriega should be thrown out of power

diplomacy failed

and by december of that year the united

states invaded panama

president united states gave a speech to

the world

on the number of the justifications for

the invasion

you remember those horrible pictures of

newly elected vice president ford

covered head to toe with blood

beaten mercilessly by so-called dignity

battalions

when i heard that speech and saw the

action i realized this wasn’t about

covers it wasn’t about fame

it wasn’t about me

it was about what i was doing in terms

of providing work

providing imagery to be part of a chain

part of a conversation for information

to be put out there for people to make

decisions i was there as your eyes

and it wasn’t whether or not i agreed

with the invasion which was said to have

killed thousands of panamanians

it was just the understanding that the

work that i was choosing to do could

have impact on the world that’s what i

found incredibly interesting

now let’s jump ahead two years it’s

i read a story about this place called

yugoslavia a country in eastern europe

that everybody thought was going to make

this amazing transition in the

post-soviet world

but there were these rumblings of

nationalism violent nationalism and

nobody was exactly sure what was going

to happen

in fact

over the next five

sorry over the next 10 years i spent

more than five years on the ground

documenting the very brutal breakup of

that country

by 1992

i found myself in a small city in bosnia

on the border with serbia

there’s a town called bialina and when i

had arrived the town was already split

with muslim civilians on one side and

serbian civilians on the other and they

were fighting

the butcher was fighting against the

banker

the bookkeeper was fighting against the

policemen it was complete chaos and

civil society had broken down

violence escalated to a new level with

the arrival of arkhan

serbian warlord and his unit known as

the tigers i had worked with arkham

before and he gave me permission to work

with his troops he said he was there to

quote unquote cleanse the town of muslim

fundamentalists

we moved into the center of town

eventually arriving at a mosque

the soldiers went up to the mosque they

took down the islamic flag they posed

for a victory photo

right after this i started to hear some

shouting from across the street and i

walked outside

there was a house with a red brick wall

and a couple had been brought out

in front of the wall

the woman hamietta paigetti and her

husband abduraham were shouting at the

soldiers the soldiers were shouting at

them they were simultaneously shouting

at me don’t take any photographs

shots rang out and abduraham fell to the

ground

immediately this was obvious this was a

war crime what was striking to me was

that nobody cared that i was there with

the camera and it seemed to me at that

moment there was very little i could do

to stop anything that was happening

several months earlier i had been in a

very similar situation where somebody

was executed in front of me which i

couldn’t stop nor could i even document

for the evidence of the crime

i had vowed

never to let that happen again

so

i tried to figure out how to be able to

take a photograph of what was happening

and eventually i was able to photograph

hamietta as she tried to save abduvraham

as he lay there bleeding

moments later

hamieta was shot

a few moments later another woman aisha

shabanovich was brought out and she too

was shot

then a prisoner was brought out turned

out to be aisha’s son he tried to escape

they shot him again nothing i could do

to stop it and nothing i could do to

document it

then harush zabiri was brought out as a

prisoner for some reason

they let me photograph him

but i realized

that i needed an image of the soldiers

and the victims in the same frame

so that nobody could dispute

what was happening that the evidence was

there to prove everybody that this was a

war crime

and here you see in this photograph

the serbian paramilitaries the tigers

with their victims now look closely at

this photograph of the soldier on the

right

the cigarette in one hand sunglasses on

his head as he casually brings his boot

back

as the victims the pioneers and ayesha

shabbat actually dying on the street

this is a photograph that is called an

excess of violence

this is the documentation of ethnic

cleansing

the conversation in the world at the

time was that the bosnian war was about

to erupt unless there was intervention

from the west

i thought that this these photographs

which were published around the world

would be the evidence to push the west

into intervening

president bush who reacted to my panama

photographs earlier was still president

of the united states so for sure there

would be something there was no reaction

from anybody

the war started it lasted for almost

four years

thousands were killed millions more

became refugees

led to several more wars and today

bosnia is a dysfunctional country

it became apparent to me that the work

had failed

and i had to ask myself what was i doing

as a journalist

arkhan so angry that these photographs

were seen

had vowed quote unquote to look forward

to the day he would drink my blood and

he put me on a death list

so i had to decide should i keep working

what was the purpose and i realized

after some time that when the

photographs fell

in their attempt to sort of garner any

kind of change immediately they took on

another life they took on a life of

evidence

to hold people responsible for their

actions so obviously the soldiers and

the photographs those that gave them the

orders and so on to be held responsible

but more importantly i thought

to hold people responsible for their

inaction

for the leaders that saw these

photographs and did nothing they

witnessed a war crime and said nothing

they are also responsible and by

extension

what does that mean for all of us the

ones that put these people in power

the ones that did not take to the

streets to protest

what happens today when we look at

photographs from various places and we

don’t react so with those sort of twin

foundations of photojournalism

i move forward continuing to do this

work

so i started working with my co-director

dr lauren walsh on biography of a photo

we started to discover

that the photograph from panama and the

photograph from bosnia

lived

on and on most news photographs last a

day or two and disappear

most of you look at an instagram photo

you swipe it you like it you forget

about it 15 minutes later

these photographs continue to have

impact months years

later it’s very unusual for work

and the photographs as we look at their

biographies they weave this narrative

that show how the history the memory and

cultural fabric of each area is formed

so let’s look at the photograph from

panama

shortly after it was taken the

dictatorship declared it illegal

but it gave hope to the opposition

that people were actually paying

attention to what was going on

the vice president

elect guillermo billy ford said quote

the photograph saved his life

it made him into an international figure

that couldn’t be touched

an opposition leader said

my friends died for democracy

the photo changed everything it renewed

our courage to stand up and fight

with the photograph from bosnia even

though it found on an international

level was quickly made into a recruiting

poster for people to come over and

volunteer to fight to protect their

muslim brethren it was seen around the

islamic world the photograph was

continuously published in newspapers

both inside and outside bosnia

artists did their own versions of the

photograph as a protest to the war

the french filmmaker jean-luc godard did

a short film on the photograph

as a voiceover meditates on man’s

inhumanity to man and the lack of

intervention in the bosnian war

with the formation of the inter

international criminal tribunal for the

former yugoslavia in the hague

during the opening day speech the

photograph was said to be one of the

inspirations for the creation of the

court

the image was used to indict and convict

war criminals as recently as just a few

months ago these are civilians i assume

i always assume

and they are being

killed executed in the most brutal

manner by a beast not by a human being

by a beast so

you can imagine what that means and why

the tribunal has used it you’re aware

that these photos were published and

distributed essentially worldwide and

roughly at the time and and since well

you know it doesn’t take much to go to

the website called iconic photographs

which means photographs that are

particularly famous

in the world of education

where neither conflict is taught in each

country

multiple

generations know the work and understand

the history through

the photographs

in panama each year they mark the

anniversary of the us invasion

many panamanians consider that invasion

a war crime and they connect it directly

to the photo

recently when filming one of the

demonstrations a man recognized me and

became so incensed that i was the

photographer that he tried to get a mob

to attack me

but not all panamanians feel the same

way former panamanian president varela

said quote the photograph gave panama

back its democracy

which is a pretty amazing thing to say

about a photograph

this is just a few of the ways that the

photos have played a role in shaping the

histories

of the places where they were taken

and then as we kept working on the film

and biography of a photo we found that

for each photograph there was somebody

who was personally connected

to each image in the events of the day

in panama we have manuel guerra whose

brother alexis guerra was the bodyguard

who was assigned to protect vice

president ford

the blood that you see on ford’s shirt

is of the bodyguards

and then we have alma pekovic whose

mother aisha shibanovic is dying in the

photograph

they’re both on a personal quest for

justice

the images are famous but their family

members the little people the

working-class bodyguard and civilian

bystander are in danger of being

forgotten by history

they want justice for their relatives

manuel is fighting for his brother’s

remembrance he wants us connected to the

photograph that represents the democracy

of panama

and alma wants something simpler form of

justice she wants the soldiers in the

photograph to be indicted and convicted

of war crimes a charge that nobody has

been given up until this point

[Music]

so photographs have the opportunity to

inform and influence

sometimes under the guidance in the

media and sometimes they travel the

world on their own

hopefully having some impact wherever

they are seen

i hope this gives you all a new way of

thinking about photos those that you see

and those that you take

thank you very much

you

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去年

拍摄了超过 1 万亿张照片

1 万亿张

,如果你想一想,这是一个相当惊人的数字,你们中的

许多人为

这个数字做出了贡献

你最喜欢的宠物的照片

也许你最喜欢的午餐

所有这些照片都

代表了一些东西

花点时间想想

对你来说意义重大的图像

在我的职业生涯中的过去 30 年中 我一直专注于

提高人们对人权的认识

我所拍摄的 在 100

多个国家/地区,

我记录了超过 25 起冲突

当我被问到

为什么要这样做时

为什么你认为照片有价值 为什么你认为

冒着生命危险

拍照很有价值 问题很好 答案

就是那些 这

构成了我为什么要做我所做的事情的基础

,它们也是

我导演一部名为“照片传记”

的电影的原因 检查我的两张照片的生活,

因此有点退后一步,

帮助回答我带你

回到 1989 年的问题

另一个时期另一个世界我是一名

在纽约工作的年轻摄影师

我想成为一名国际摄影师

摄影师

我正在拍摄一个活动

,我在街上看到这位摄影师

,他看起来像

典型的国际

摄影记者新闻证件

合适的相机 非常重要的

新闻摄影围巾 所以我说好吧

这是一个我应该和我交谈的人

我介绍自己 他的名字是 克里斯

莫里斯

和我说克里斯

你接下来

要去哪里克里斯说我要去巴拿马

所以克里斯太棒了我也

要去巴拿马我不知道巴拿马在哪里

我不知道巴拿马发生了什么

但如果 如果你想成为一名国际摄影师,这个人要去巴拿马,那

是你要去的地方

。巴拿马的故事是

由一个名叫曼努埃尔·诺列加将军的独裁者

经营

的 与美国的

关系摇摇欲坠,他决定举行

选举,向世界证明

他深受人民

爱戴 在我要

买机票之前,

我的任务被取消了,我被

压垮了

我一直在做自行车信使,

开着冰淇淋车 我并没有

真正作为摄影师生存,所以我

买不起

机票 遇到了克里斯,令人惊讶的是他

刚刚买了机票,航空公司

有一个买一送一的特价,

就像革命特价一样,克里斯说你

可以得到我的额外机票,

我说谢谢,然后我们去

巴拿马记录选举

我 开始

时一次向约翰的法国出版社出售照片 50 美元,法国

通讯社 搬运工这是一次令人大开眼界的

经历 独裁者诺列加举行了选举

他输掉了选举 他随后取消

了选举结果

,潜在的胜利者

走上街头开始起义

他们遭到了

我所关注的严重暴力 候任副总统

和他的随行人员开车

穿过街道

时,有一次被警察和士兵拦住,

突然对峙

了一群被称为尊严

营的人支持独裁者的准军事部队

跑了过来 对他们

来说,这是完全的混乱,

他们有蝙蝠,他们有手枪,我

试图拍照并环顾四周,

尽我所能,

然后一个男人走到一辆

车前,拿出一把手枪,向车里开

了一枪

过了一会儿,门

终于打开

了,一个浑身是血的人踉踉跄跄从车里出来

福特,

当我走向他拍照时,我

听到有人用西班牙语说妥协,

对不起,那个人绕过

我开始攻击副

总统,副总统为自己辩护

,很快整个事情就结束了,

我把我的胶卷带回了 法新社办公室

这部电影被处理并传播

到世界各地

,在这里仔细看这张照片

,你会看到

左边的副总统

浑身是血,一名士兵站在后面

看着,

到第二天照片

上什么也没做 世界各地报纸的头版

和周末都在同一周

的新闻周刊美国新闻和时代杂志的封面上

对于摄影师来说这是一个独特的时刻

我认为这种

新闻摄影的事情很容易你

去你拍照的地方 你得到

封面

我会成名 我会

赚很多很多钱 根本不是真的

在接下来的七个月里都很漂亮 曼联

各国试图通过外交推翻

诺列加政府

他们开始使用时代杂志的

封面作为

诺列加应该被赶下台的原因之一

外交失败

,到当年 12 月

美国入侵

巴拿马 美国总统发表讲话

the world

on the number of the justifications for

the invasion

you remember those horrible pictures of

newly elected vice president ford

covered head to toe with blood

beaten mercilessly by so-called dignity

battalions

when i heard that speech and saw the

action i realized this wasn'

不是关于封面 这不是关于名声

这不是关于我

而是关于我在

提供工作

方面所做的事情

决定我在那里就像你的眼睛

,我是否

同意入侵据说已经

杀死了成千上万的巴拿马人,

这只是联合国

知道我选择做的工作可能

会对世界产生影响,这就是我

觉得非常有趣的事情,

现在让我们向前迈进两年,那是

1991 年。

我读了一个关于这个地方的故事,叫做

南斯拉夫,东欧的一个国家

,每个人都认为它正在走向 为了在后苏联世界实现

这一惊人的转变,

但出现了这些

民族主义暴力民族主义的隆隆声,

没有人确切地知道接下来五年会发生什么,

对不起,在接下来的 10 年里,我花

了五年多的时间在 1992年那个国家

非常残酷的分裂的地面记录

我发现自己在波斯尼亚

与塞尔维亚接壤的一个小城市

有一个叫比亚利纳的小镇,当

我到达时,这个小镇已经分裂

为一边是穆斯林平民,一边是

塞尔维亚平民 另一个,他们

在和

屠夫打架,在和

银行家打架,簿记员在和

警察打架,完全混乱

民间社会已经打破了

暴力升级到一个新的水平

随着阿克汉

塞尔维亚军阀和他的部队的到来,

我以前曾与阿克汉一起工作过的被称为老虎

的部队,他允许我与他的部队一起工作他说他在那里

引用unquote 清理穆斯林

原教旨主义者的小镇

我们搬到市中心

最终到达一座

清真寺 士兵们走到清真寺 他们

取下了他们

为胜利合影

的伊斯兰旗帜 在这之后我开始听到

街对面的一些喊叫声 我

走到外面

有一栋红砖墙的房子

,一对夫妇被

带到墙

前 女人hamietta paigetti和她的

丈夫abduraham

对士兵大喊 士兵对他们

大喊 他们

同时对我大喊 不要拍照

没有人关心我拿着相机在那里

,在那一刻,我似乎

无能为力来阻止几个月前发生的任何事情,

我处于

非常相似的情况,有人

在我面前被处决 我

无法阻止,我什至无法记录

我发誓

永远不会让这种情况再次发生的犯罪证据,

所以

我试图弄清楚如何

拍摄正在发生的事情的照片

,最终我能够 照片

hamietta 试图救

abduvraham 躺在那里流血

片刻后

hamieta 被枪杀

他们再次向他开枪,我

无能为力,我也无能为力

记录下来,

然后由于某种原因,哈鲁什·扎比里被带出来作为

囚犯,

他们让我给他拍照,

但我

意识到 我需要一个士兵

和受害者在同一帧中的图像,

这样没有人可以质疑

正在发生的事情,有

证据可以证明每个人这是

战争

罪 受害者们现在仔细看

右边士兵的照片 一只手拿着香烟 头上戴着太阳镜

他随意地把靴子

带回来

作为受害者 先驱者和 ayesha

shabbat 实际上死在街上

这是一张被称为

过度暴力

这是种族

清洗

的记录 当时世界

上的谈话是波斯尼亚战争

即将爆发,除非有

西方的干预

我认为这些

在世界各地出版的照片

将是证据 推动

西方介入干预

布什总统,他早些时候对我的巴拿马照片做出反应,但

他仍然是美国

总统 吃所以肯定

会有一些东西没有

任何人

的反应战争开始了它持续了将近

四年

数千人被杀数百万人

成为难民

导致了更多的战争今天

波斯尼亚是一个功能失调的国家

对我来说很明显这项工作

失败了

,我不得不问自己,作为一名记者,我在做什么

arkhan 如此生气以至于

看到了这些照片,

发誓要期待

有一天他会喝我的血,

他把我列入死亡名单,

所以我不得不 决定我应该继续工作

的目的是什么

,一段时间后我意识到,当

照片落下

时,他们试图

立即获得任何改变

行动如此明显,士兵

和照片,那些给他们

下达命令的人等等要承担责任,

但更重要的是,我

认为要让人们负责 因为他们

对看到这些

照片的领导人无所作为,他们

目睹了一场战争罪行,什么也没说,

他们也有责任,进而

对我们所有人意味着什么

让这些人掌权

的人没有采取行动

走上街头抗议

今天发生的事情,当我们看到

来自不同地方的照片时,我们

并没有做出反应,所以对那些

摄影新闻的双重基础

我继续前进,继续做这项

工作,

所以我开始与我的联合导演

劳伦博士合作 walsh 关于一张照片的传记

我们开始

发现来自巴拿马的照片和

来自波斯尼亚的照片

在大多数新闻照片上持续

一两天然后消失

大多数人看着 Instagram 照片

你刷你喜欢它你忘记了

关于它 15 分钟后,

这些照片在

数月后继续产生影响,

这对于工作和照片来说是非常不寻常的,

因为我们看着

他们编织的传记 他的

叙述展示了历史

、每个地区的记忆和文化结构是如何形成的,

所以让我们看看这张来自巴拿马的照片,当时这张照片

拍摄后不久,

独裁统治宣布它是非法的,

但它给反对派带来了希望,

即人们实际上正在

关注什么 正在

上班副总统盖菲尔莫比利福特说,

报价照片拯救了他的生命

,使他成为一个无法触及反对派领袖的国际人物

,说

我的朋友为民主而死

的照片改变了它的一切,它更新

了我们的勇气站起来 并

与来自波斯尼亚的照片进行斗争,

尽管它在国际

上很快被制作成招募

海报,供人们过来并

自愿为保护他们的

穆斯林兄弟而战。在伊斯兰世界各地都可以看到

这张照片

不断在报纸上发表

波斯尼亚内外的

艺术家都制作了他们自己版本的

照片作为抗议 对于

战争,法国电影制片人让-卢克·戈达尔

在这张照片上制作了一部短片,

作为画外音沉思了人类对人类的

不人道以及在前南斯拉夫国际刑事法庭成立后

对波斯尼亚战争缺乏干预。

海牙

在开幕日的演讲

中 据说这张照片

是创建

法院

的灵感之一 就在几个月前,这张照片还被用来起诉和定罪

战争罪犯

我想我一直认为这些是平民

,他们 被野兽

以最残酷的方式处决,而

不是人类

被野兽杀死,所以

你可以想象这意味着什么以及

为什么法庭使用它你

知道这些照片

基本上是在全球范围内发布和分发的,

大致在 时间,因为

你知道,去

一个名为标志性照片的网站并不需要太多,

这意味着在 t 中

特别有名的照片

每个国家都不会教授冲突的教育世界

代人通过巴拿马的照片了解这项工作并

了解历史

每年他们纪念美国

入侵的周年

许多巴拿马人认为入侵

是战争罪,他们将其直接

与 这张照片

最近在拍摄其中一个

示威活动时,一名男子认出了我并

变得非常愤怒,以至于我是

摄影师,他试图让一群

暴徒袭击我,

但并非所有巴拿马人都有同样的感受,

前巴拿马总统瓦雷拉

说引用这张照片给巴拿马

支持它的民主

对于一张照片来说

这是一件非常了不起的事情 这只是

照片在塑造拍摄地点的历史方面发挥作用的几种方式

一张照片的传记,我们

发现每张照片都有一个人

与事件中的每张照片有个人联系 在巴拿马的那一天

,我们有曼努埃尔·格拉,他的

兄弟亚历克西斯·格拉是

被指派保护

福特副总统的保镖

,你在福特衬衫上看到的血

是保镖

,然后是阿尔玛·佩科维奇,他的

母亲艾莎·希巴诺维奇在

照片

他们都在追求

正义

这些照片都很有名,但他们的

家人 小人物

工人阶级的保镖和平民

旁观者有

被历史遗忘的危险

他们希望为他们的亲戚伸张正义

曼努埃尔正在为他兄弟的正义而战

纪念他希望我们与

代表巴拿马民主的照片联系起来

,阿尔玛想要更简单的

正义形式她希望照片中的士兵

被起诉并被判

犯有战争罪

,直到现在没有人放弃这一指控

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所以照片有机会

在媒体的引导下有时传达信息和影响

他们独自环游世界

希望在任何地方都能产生影响

我希望这能给大家一种新的方式

来思考你看到的照片和拍摄的照片

非常感谢你