Alice Goffman How were priming some kids for college and others for prison

On the path that American children
travel to adulthood,

two institutions oversee the journey.

The first is the one we hear
a lot about: college.

Some of you may remember
the excitement that you felt

when you first set off for college.

Some of you may be in college right now

and you’re feeling this excitement
at this very moment.

College has some shortcomings.

It’s expensive; it leaves
young people in debt.

But all in all, it’s a pretty good path.

Young people emerge from college
with pride and with great friends

and with a lot of knowledge
about the world.

And perhaps most importantly,

a better chance in the labor market
than they had before they got there.

Today I want to talk about
the second institution

overseeing the journey from childhood
to adulthood in the United States.

And that institution is prison.

Young people on this journey
are meeting with probation officers

instead of with teachers.

They’re going to court dates
instead of to class.

Their junior year abroad is instead
a trip to a state correctional facility.

And they’re emerging from their 20s

not with degrees in business and English,

but with criminal records.

This institution is also costing us a lot,

about 40,000 dollars a year

to send a young person
to prison in New Jersey.

But here, taxpayers are footing the bill

and what kids are getting
is a cold prison cell

and a permanent mark against them
when they come home

and apply for work.

There are more and more kids
on this journey to adulthood

than ever before in the United States
and that’s because in the past 40 years,

our incarceration rate
has grown by 700 percent.

I have one slide for this talk.

Here it is.

Here’s our incarceration rate,

about 716 people per 100,000
in the population.

Here’s the OECD countries.

What’s more, it’s poor kids
that we’re sending to prison,

too many drawn from African-American
and Latino communities

so that prison now stands firmly between
the young people trying to make it

and the fulfillment of the American Dream.

The problem’s actually
a bit worse than this

‘cause we’re not just sending
poor kids to prison,

we’re saddling poor kids with court fees,

with probation and parole restrictions,

with low-level warrants,

we’re asking them to live
in halfway houses and on house arrest,

and we’re asking them
to negotiate a police force

that is entering poor
communities of color,

not for the purposes
of promoting public safety,

but to make arrest counts,
to line city coffers.

This is the hidden underside to our
historic experiment in punishment:

young people worried that at any moment,
they will be stopped, searched and seized.

Not just in the streets,
but in their homes,

at school and at work.

I got interested in this
other path to adulthood

when I was myself a college student

attending the University of Pennsylvania

in the early 2000s.

Penn sits within a historic
African-American neighborhood.

So you’ve got these two parallel
journeys going on simultaneously:

the kids attending
this elite, private university,

and the kids from
the adjacent neighborhood,

some of whom are making it to college,

and many of whom
are being shipped to prison.

In my sophomore year, I started tutoring
a young woman who was in high school

who lived about 10 minutes
away from the university.

Soon, her cousin came home
from a juvenile detention center.

He was 15, a freshman in high school.

I began to get to know him
and his friends and family,

and I asked him what he thought
about me writing about his life

for my senior thesis in college.

This senior thesis became
a dissertation at Princeton

and now a book.

By the end of my sophomore year,

I moved into the neighborhood
and I spent the next six years

trying to understand what young people
were facing as they came of age.

The first week I spent
in this neighborhood,

I saw two boys, five and seven years old,

play this game of chase,

where the older boy
ran after the other boy.

He played the cop.

When the cop caught up
to the younger boy,

he pushed him down,

handcuffed him with imaginary handcuffs,

took a quarter out of
the other child’s pocket,

saying, “I’m seizing that.”

He asked the child if
he was carrying any drugs

or if he had a warrant.

Many times, I saw this game repeated,

sometimes children would
simply give up running,

and stick their bodies flat
against the ground

with their hands above their heads,
or flat up against a wall.

Children would yell at each other,

“I’m going to lock you up,

I’m going to lock you up
and you’re never coming home!”

Once I saw a six-year-old child
pull another child’s pants down

and try to do a cavity search.

In the first 18 months that I lived
in this neighborhood,

I wrote down every time I saw
any contact between police

and people that were my neighbors.

So in the first 18 months,

I watched the police stop
pedestrians or people in cars,

search people, run people’s names,

chase people through the streets,

pull people in for questioning,

or make an arrest every single day,
with five exceptions.

Fifty-two times, I watched the police
break down doors,

chase people through houses

or make an arrest of someone
in their home.

Fourteen times
in this first year and a half,

I watched the police punch, choke,
kick, stomp on or beat young men

after they had caught them.

Bit by bit, I got to know two brothers,

Chuck and Tim.

Chuck was 18 when we met,
a senior in high school.

He was playing on the basketball team
and making C’s and B’s.

His younger brother, Tim, was 10.

And Tim loved Chuck;
he followed him around a lot,

looked to Chuck to be a mentor.

They lived with their mom and grandfather

in a two-story row home
with a front lawn and a back porch.

Their mom was struggling with addiction
all while the boys were growing up.

She never really was able
to hold down a job for very long.

It was their grandfather’s pension
that supported the family,

not really enough to pay
for food and clothes

and school supplies for growing boys.

The family was really struggling.

So when we met, Chuck was
a senior in high school.

He had just turned 18.

That winter, a kid in the schoolyard

called Chuck’s mom a crack whore.

Chuck pushed the kid’s face into the snow

and the school cops charged him
with aggravated assault.

The other kid was fine the next day,

I think it was his pride that was injured
more than anything.

But anyway, since Chuck was 18,

this agg. assault case sent him
to adult county jail

on State Road in northeast Philadelphia,

where he sat, unable to pay the bail –
he couldn’t afford it –

while the trial dates
dragged on and on and on

through almost his entire senior year.

Finally, near the end of this season,

the judge on this assault case
threw out most of the charges

and Chuck came home

with only a few hundred dollars’ worth
of court fees hanging over his head.

Tim was pretty happy that day.

The next fall, Chuck tried
to re-enroll as a senior,

but the school secretary told him that

he was then 19 and too old
to be readmitted.

Then the judge on his assault case
issued him a warrant for his arrest

because he couldn’t pay
the 225 dollars in court fees

that came due a few weeks after
the case ended.

Then he was a high school dropout
living on the run.

Tim’s first arrest came later that year

after he turned 11.

Chuck had managed
to get his warrant lifted

and he was on a payment plan
for the court fees

and he was driving Tim to school
in his girlfriend’s car.

So a cop pulls them over, runs the car,

and the car comes up
as stolen in California.

Chuck had no idea where in the history
of this car it had been stolen.

His girlfriend’s uncle bought it
from a used car auction

in northeast Philly.

Chuck and Tim had never been
outside of the tri-state,

let alone to California.

But anyway, the cops down at the precinct

charged Chuck with
receiving stolen property.

And then a juvenile judge,
a few days later,

charged Tim, age 11,

with accessory to receiving
a stolen property

and then he was placed on
three years of probation.

With this probation sentence
hanging over his head,

Chuck sat his little brother down

and began teaching him
how to run from the police.

They would sit side by side
on their back porch

looking out into the shared alleyway

and Chuck would coach Tim
how to spot undercover cars,

how to negotiate a late-night police raid,
how and where to hide.

I want you to imagine for a second

what Chuck and Tim’s lives would be like

if they were living in a neighborhood
where kids were going to college,

not prison.

A neighborhood like the one
I got to grow up in.

Okay, you might say.

But Chuck and Tim, kids like them,
they’re committing crimes!

Don’t they deserve to be in prison?

Don’t they deserve to be
living in fear of arrest?

Well, my answer would be no.

They don’t.

And certainly not for the same things
that other young people

with more privilege are doing
with impunity.

If Chuck had gone to my high school,

that schoolyard fight
would have ended there,

as a schoolyard fight.

It never would have become
an aggravated assault case.

Not a single kid that
I went to college with

has a criminal record right now.

Not a single one.

But can you imagine how many might have
if the police had stopped those kids

and searched their pockets for drugs
as they walked to class?

Or had raided their frat parties
in the middle of the night?

Okay, you might say.

But doesn’t this high incarceration rate

partly account for our
really low crime rate?

Crime is down. That’s a good thing.

Totally, that is a good thing.
Crime is down.

It dropped precipitously in
the ’90s and through the 2000s.

But according to a committee of academics

convened by the National Academy
of Sciences last year,

the relationship between our
historically high incarceration rates

and our low crime rate is pretty shaky.

It turns out that the crime rate
goes up and down

irrespective of how many young people
we send to prison.

We tend to think about justice
in a pretty narrow way:

good and bad, innocent and guilty.

Injustice is about being
wrongfully convicted.

So if you’re convicted
of something you did do,

you should be punished for it.

There are innocent and guilty people,

there are victims and
there are perpetrators.

Maybe we could think a little bit
more broadly than that.

Right now, we’re asking kids who live
in the most disadvantaged neighborhoods,

who have the least amount
of family resources,

who are attending
the country’s worst schools,

who are facing the toughest time
in the labor market,

who are living in neighborhoods
where violence is an everyday problem,

we’re asking these kids to walk
the thinnest possible line –

to basically never do anything wrong.

Why are we not providing support
to young kids facing these challenges?

Why are we offering only handcuffs,
jail time and this fugitive existence?

Can we imagine something better?

Can we imagine a criminal justice system
that prioritizes recovery,

prevention, civic inclusion,

rather than punishment?

(Applause)

A criminal justice system
that acknowledges

the legacy of exclusion that poor people
of color in the U.S. have faced

and that does not promote
and perpetuate those exclusions.

(Applause)

And finally, a criminal justice system
that believes in black young people,

rather than treating black young people
as the enemy to be rounded up.

(Applause)

The good news is that we already are.

A few years ago, Michelle Alexander
wrote “The New Jim Crow,”

which got Americans to see
incarceration as a civil rights issue

of historic proportions in a way
they had not seen it before.

President Obama and Attorney General
Eric Holder have come out very strongly

on sentencing reform,

on the need to address
racial disparity in incarceration.

We’re seeing states throw out
Stop and Frisk

as the civil rights violation that it is.

We’re seeing cities and states
decriminalize possession of marijuana.

New York, New Jersey
and California

have been dropping their
prison populations, closing prisons,

while also seeing a big drop in crime.

Texas has gotten into the game now,

also closing prisons,
investing in education.

This curious coalition is building
from the right and the left,

made up of former prisoners
and fiscal conservatives,

of civil rights activists
and libertarians,

of young people taking to the streets
to protest police violence

against unarmed black teenagers,

and older, wealthier people –

some of you are here in the audience –

pumping big money into
decarceration initiatives

In a deeply divided Congress,

the work of reforming
our criminal justice system

is just about the only thing
that the right and the left

are coming together on.

I did not think I would see
this political moment in my lifetime.

I think many of the people
who have been working tirelessly

to write about the causes and consequences

of our historically
high incarceration rates

did not think we would see
this moment in our lifetime.

The question for us now is,
how much can we make of it?

How much can we change?

I want to end with a call to young people,

the young people attending college

and the young people
struggling to stay out of prison

or to make it through prison
and return home.

It may seem like these paths
to adulthood are worlds apart,

but the young people participating
in these two institutions

conveying us to adulthood,

they have one thing in common:

Both can be leaders in the work
of reforming our criminal justice system.

Young people have always been leaders
in the fight for equal rights,

the fight for more people
to be granted dignity

and a fighting chance at freedom.

The mission for the generation
of young people

coming of age in this, a sea-change
moment, potentially,

is to end mass incarceration and
build a new criminal justice system,

emphasis on the word justice.

Thanks.

(Applause)

在美国儿童
走向成年的道路上,有

两个机构负责监督这一旅程。

第一个是我们经常
听到的:大学。

你们中的一些人可能还记得

第一次上大学时的兴奋。

你们中的一些人可能现在正在上大学,

此时此刻你正感受到这种
兴奋。

大学有一些不足之处。

它的价格昂贵; 它让
年轻人负债累累。

但总的来说,这是一条非常好的道路。

年轻人
带着自豪和好朋友从大学毕业,

并对世界有很多
了解。

也许最重要的是,他们

在劳动力市场上的机会
比他们到达那里之前更好。

今天我想谈谈
美国第二个

监督从童年
到成年的旅程的机构。

而那个机构就是监狱。

这段旅程
中的年轻人正在与缓刑官员会面,

而不是与老师会面。

他们要去法庭约会
而不是上课。

他们在国外大三的时候是
去州惩教所旅行。

而且他们刚从 20 多岁开始就

没有商业和英语学位,

而是有犯罪记录。

这个机构也花费了我们很多,

每年大约 40,000

美元将一个年轻人
送到新泽西州的监狱。

但在这里,纳税人正在买单,

而孩子们得到的
却是一个冰冷的牢房

,当他们回家申请工作时,他们将受到永久的烙印

在美国
,踏上成年之路的孩子

比以往任何时候都多
,这是因为在过去的 40 年里,

我们的监禁
率增长了 700%。

我有一张幻灯片用于这次演讲。

这里是。

这是我们的监禁率,

大约每 10 万人中有 716
人。

这是经合组织国家。

更重要的
是,我们送进监狱的是可怜的孩子,其中有

太多来自非裔美国人
和拉丁裔社区,

所以监狱现在牢牢地夹
在努力

实现梦想和实现美国梦的年轻人之间。

问题
实际上比这更严重,

因为我们不仅把
穷孩子送进监狱,

我们还让穷孩子承担法庭费用

、缓刑和假释限制

、低级别的搜查令,

我们要求他们活下去
在中途之家和软禁中

,我们要求他们
与一支

进入贫困
有色人种社区的警察部队进行谈判,

不是
为了促进公共安全,

而是为了计算逮捕人数,
为城市金库排队。

这就是我们
历史性的惩罚实验的隐秘之处:

年轻人担心
他们随时会被拦下、搜查和扣押。

不仅在街上,
而且在他们的家中

、学校和工作中。 2000 年代初,当

我自己还是宾夕法尼亚大学的一名大学生时,我对这
条通往成年的另一条道路产生了兴趣

Penn 坐落在一个历史悠久的
非裔美国人社区内。

所以你有这两个平行的
旅程同时进行:

就读
这所精英私立大学

的孩子和
来自邻近社区的孩子,

其中一些人正在上大学,

其中许多人
被送进监狱。

在我大二的时候,我开始辅导

一位住在离大学大约 10 分钟
路程的高中的年轻女子。

不久,她的表弟
从少年看守所回家。

他15岁,高中一年级。

我开始了解他
以及他的朋友和家人

,我问他

对我在大学毕业论文中写下他的生活有何看法。

这篇高级论文成为
普林斯顿大学的论文

,现在是一本书。

到大二结束时,

我搬进了这个社区
,接下来的六年里我

试图了解年轻人
成年后面临的问题。

我在这个街区度过的第一周

我看到两个 5 岁和 7 岁的男孩

玩这种追逐游戏

,大男孩
追着另一个男孩。

他扮演警察。

当警察
追上那个小男孩时,

他把他推倒,

用想象中的手铐给他戴上手铐,


另一个孩子的口袋里掏出四分之一,

说:“我正在抓住那个。”

他问孩子
是否携带毒品

或是否有搜查令。

很多时候,我看到这个游戏在重复,

有时孩子们会
干脆放弃跑步

,双手举过头顶将身体平
贴在地上


或者平放在墙上。

孩子们会互相大喊:

“我要把你关起来,

我要把你关
起来,你永远不会回家!”

有一次,我看到一个六岁的孩子
拉下另一个孩子的裤子,

并试图做一个腔搜索。

在我住在这个社区的最初 18 个月里,

我每次看到
警察和邻居之间的任何接触都会写下来

所以在最初的 18 个月里,

我每天都看到警察拦住
行人或车上的人、

搜查人、查人名、

在街上追人、

拉人审问

或逮捕人,但
有五个例外。

五十二次,我看到警察
破门而入,

在房子里追人


在他们家逮捕某人。

在第一年半的时间里,

我目睹了警察在抓住
年轻人后对他们拳打脚踢、跺脚或殴打的情景

一点一点地,我认识了两个兄弟,

查克和蒂姆。

我们认识时查克 18 岁,他
是一名高中生。

他在篮球队打球
,打出了 C 和 B。

他的弟弟蒂姆 10 岁。

蒂姆喜欢查克。
他经常跟着他,

希望查克成为他的导师。

他们和他们的妈妈和祖父住

在一个两层楼的房子里,
有一个前草坪和一个后门廊。

在男孩们成长的过程中,他们的妈妈一直在与毒瘾作斗争。

她从来没有真正
能够坚持很长时间的工作。

养家糊口的是他们祖父的退休金

不足以

支付正在成长的男孩的衣食和学习用品。

一家人真的很挣扎。

所以当我们见面时,查克是
一名高中生。

他刚满 18 岁。

那年冬天,校园里的一个孩子

称查克的妈妈为妓女。

查克把孩子的脸推到雪地里

,学校警察指控
他严重殴打。

另一个孩子第二天就好了,

我认为他的自尊心受到的伤害
比什么都大。

但无论如何,自从查克 18 岁以来,

这个 agg。 袭击案将他
送到

费城东北部州道上的成人县监狱,

他坐在那里,无法支付保释金——
他负担不起——

而审判日期一直

拖到他几乎整个高年级 .

最后,在本赛季快结束时,

这起袭击案的法官
驳回了大部分指控

,查克回家

时只剩下
几百美元的法庭费用。

蒂姆那天很开心。

第二年秋天,查克试图
以大四学生的身份重新入学,

但学校秘书告诉他,

他当时 19 岁
,不能重新入学。

然后,他的袭击案件的法官向
他发出了逮捕令,

因为他无法支付案件结束几周后到期
的 225 美元的法庭费用

然后他是一名高中辍学
生,生活在逃亡中。

蒂姆第一次被捕是在那年

晚些时候,他年满 11 岁。

查克设法
解除了他的逮捕令

,他正在制定
支付法庭费用的计划

,他正在
用女友的车开车送蒂姆上学。

所以一个警察把他们拉过来,开车

,这辆车
在加利福尼亚被盗了。

查克不知道
这辆车在历史上的哪个地方被偷了。

他女朋友的叔叔
从费城东北部的二手车拍卖会上买的

查克和蒂姆从未
离开过三州,

更不用说加利福尼亚了。

但无论如何,警察局的警察

指控查克
收受赃物。

几天后,一名少年法官

指控 11 岁的蒂姆犯


收受赃物的罪名

,随后他
被判缓刑三年。

这个缓刑判决
悬在他的头上,

查克让他的弟弟坐下来

,开始教他
如何逃避警察。

他们会并排
坐在后门廊上,

眺望共用的小巷

,查克会指导蒂姆
如何发现卧底汽车,

如何在深夜警察突袭中进行谈判,
如何以及在哪里躲藏。

我想让你想象

一下如果查克和蒂姆

住在一个
孩子上大学

而不是监狱的社区里,他们的生活会是什么样子。

一个像
我长大的社区。

好吧,你可能会说。

但是查克和蒂姆,像他们这样的孩子,
他们正在犯罪!

他们不应该坐牢吗?

难道他们不应该
活在被逮捕的恐惧中吗?

好吧,我的答案是否定的。

他们没有。

当然,也不是
因为其他

享有更多特权的年轻人正在逍遥法外的情况下做同样的事情

如果查克去了我的高中,

那场校园争斗
就会在那里结束,

就像一场校园争斗。

它永远不会成为
一个严重的攻击案件。

现在没有一个和
我一起上大学的孩子

有犯罪记录。

一个都没有。

但是你能想象
如果警察拦住这些孩子,

并在他们走路去上课时搜查他们的口袋里是否有毒品的话,会有多少人吸毒

还是在半夜突袭了他们的兄弟会

好吧,你可能会说。

但是,如此高的监禁率难道不是

我们
真正低犯罪率的部分原因吗?

犯罪率下降。 这是好事。

总而言之,这是一件好事。
犯罪率下降。


在 90 年代和 2000 年代急剧下降。

但根据美国国家科学院去年召集的一个学术委员会的说法,

我们
历史上的高监禁率

和我们的低犯罪率之间的关系非常不稳定。

事实证明,无论我们将多少年轻人送进监狱,犯罪率
都会上升和下降

我们倾向于
以一种非常狭隘的方式思考正义:

好的和坏的,无辜的和有罪的。

不公正是关于被
错误地定罪。

因此,如果您因
所做的事情而被定罪,

则应该为此受到惩罚。

有无辜和有罪的人,

有受害者,
也有肇事者。

也许我们可以考虑
得更广泛一些。

现在,我们正在询问那些生活
在最贫困社区、

家庭资源最少、

就读全国最差学校

、劳动力市场面临最艰难
时期、

生活在贫困社区
的孩子。 暴力是一个日常问题,

我们要求这些孩子走
最细的路线

——基本上永远不要做错任何事。

为什么我们不为
面临这些挑战的幼儿提供支持?

为什么我们只提供手铐、
监禁和这种逃亡的存在?

我们能想象出更好的东西吗?

我们能想象一个
优先考虑康复、

预防、公民包容

而不是惩罚的刑事司法系统吗?

(掌声)

一个刑事司法系统

承认美国有色人种穷人所面临的排斥遗产

,并且不会促进
和延续这些排斥。

(掌声

)最后,一个相信黑人青年的刑事司法系统

而不是把黑人青年
当成被围捕的敌人。

(掌声

) 好消息是我们已经做到了。

几年前,米歇尔·亚历山大(Michelle Alexander)
写了《新吉姆·克劳》(The New Jim Crow),

这让美国人以他们以前从未见过的方式将
监禁视为具有历史意义的民权问题

奥巴马总统和司法部长
埃里克霍尔德

在量刑改革以及

解决
监禁中种族差异的必要性上都非常强烈地表态。

我们看到各州将
Stop and Frisk

视为侵犯公民权利的行为。

我们看到城市和州
将拥有大麻合法化。

纽约、新泽西
和加利福尼亚

一直在减少
监狱人口,关闭监狱,

同时犯罪率也大幅下降。

得克萨斯州现在已经参与其中,

还关闭了监狱,
投资于教育。

这个奇怪的联盟正在
从右翼和左翼

建立起来,由前囚犯
和财政保守派

、民权活动家
和自由主义者、

走上
街头抗议警察

对手无寸铁的黑人青少年的暴力行为的年轻人

以及年长、富有的人组成—— -

你们中的一些人在座 -

将大笔资金投入到
废除计划中

在一个严重分裂的国会中

,改革
我们的刑事司法系统的工作

几乎是

左右两派齐心协力的唯一事情。

我不认为我会
在有生之年看到这个政治时刻。

我认为
许多一直在不知疲倦

地写下

我们历史上
高监禁率的原因和后果的

人并不认为我们会
在有生之年看到这一刻。

我们现在的问题是,
我们能从中获得多少?

我们能改变多少?

最后,我想呼吁年轻人、

大学的年轻人和
努力摆脱

监狱或越狱
回家的年轻人。

看起来这些
通往成年的道路似乎是天壤之别,


参与这两个

将我们带入成年

的机构的年轻人有一个共同点:

两者都可以成为
改革我们刑事司法系统工作的领导者。

年轻人一直是
争取平等权利

、争取更多
人获得尊严

和争取自由机会的领导者。

在这个发生巨变的时刻,这一代年轻人的使命
可能

是结束大规模监禁并
建立一个新的刑事司法系统,

强调正义这个词。

谢谢。

(掌声)