From death row to law graduate Peter Ouko

I want to tell you a story about Manson.

Manson was this 28-year-old
interior designer,

a father to a loving daughter,

and a son

who found himself behind bars
due to a broken-down judicial system.

He was framed for a murder
he didn’t commit

and was sentenced to the gallows.

There were two victims of this murder –
the victim who actually died in the murder

and Manson, who had been
sentenced to prison

for an offense which he did not commit.

He was locked up in a cell,
eight by seven,

with 13 other grown-up men

for 23 and a half hours a day.

Food was not guaranteed that you’d get.

And I remember yesterday,

as I walked into the room where I was,

I imagined the kind of cell
that Manson would have been living in.

Because the toilet –

The row of the small rooms

that were there were slightly bigger
than the eight-by-seven cell.

But being in that cell
as he awaited the executioner –

because in prison,
he did not have a name –

Manson was known by a number.

He was just a statistic.

He did not know how long he would wait.

The wait could have been a minute,

the executioner could have come
the next minute,

the next day,

or it could have taken 30 years.

The wait had no end.

And in the midst of the excruciating pain,

the mental torture,

the many unanswered questions
that Manson faced,

he knew he was not
going to play the victim.

He refused to play the role of the victim.

He was angry at the justice system
that had put him behind bars.

But he knew the only way
he could change that justice system

or help other people get justice

was not to play the victim.

Change came to Manson
when he decided to embrace forgiveness

for those who had put him in prison.

I speak that as a fact.

Because I know who Manson is.

I am Manson.

My real name is Peter Manson Ouko.

And after my conviction,

after that awakening of forgiveness,

I had this move

to help change the system.

I already decided I was not
going to be a victim anymore.

But how was I going to help
change a system

that was bringing in
younger inmates every day

who deserve to be with their families?

So I started mobilizing my colleagues
in prison, my fellow inmates,

to write letters and memoranda
to the justice system,

to the Judicial Service Commission,

the numerous task forces
that had been set up

in our country, Kenya,

to help change the constitution.

And we decided to grasp at those –

to clutch at those straws,
if I may use that word –

if only to make the justice system work,

and work for all.

Just about the same time,

I met a young university
graduate from the UK,

called Alexander McLean.

Alexander had come in with three or four
of his colleagues from university

in their gap year,

and they wanted to help assist,

set up a library in Kamiti Maximum Prison,

which if you Google,

you will see is written as one
of the 15 worst prisons in the world.

That was then.

But when Alexander came in,

he was a young 20-year-old boy.

And I was on death row at that time.

And we took him under our wing.

It was an honest trust issue.

He trusted us, even though
we were on death row.

And through that trust,

we saw him and his colleagues
from the university

refurbish the library
with the latest technology

and set up the infirmary
to very good standards

so that those of us falling sick in prison

would not necessarily
have to die in indignity.

Having met Alexander,

I had a chance,

and he gave me the opportunity
and the support,

to enroll for a university degree
at the University of London.

Just like Mandela
studied from South Africa,

I had a chance to study
at Kamiti Maximum Security Prison.

And two years later,

I became the first graduate of the program

from the University of London
from within the prison system.

Having graduated, what happened next –

(Applause)

Thank you.

(Applause)

Having graduated,

now I felt empowered.

I was not going to play
the helpless victim.

But I felt empowered
not only to assist myself,

to prosecute my own case,

but also to assist the other inmates

who are suffering the similar injustices
that have just been spoken about here.

So I started writing
legal briefs for them.

With my other colleagues in prison,
we did as much as we could.

That wasn’t enough.

Alexander McLean

and his team
at the African Prisons Project

decided to support more inmates.

And as I’m speaking to you today,

there are 63 inmates and staff
in the Kenya Prison Service

studying law at the University of London
through distance learning.

(Applause)

These are changemakers
who are being motivated

not only to assist
the most indolent in society,

but also to help the inmates
and others get access to justice.

Down there in my prison cell,
something kept stirring me.

The words of Martin Luther King
kept hitting me.

And he was always telling me,
“Pete, if you can’t fly,

you can run.

And if you can’t run,

you can walk.

But if you can’t walk,

then you can crawl.

But whatever it is, whatever it takes,

just keep on moving.”

And so I had this urge to keep moving.

I still have this urge
to keep moving in whatever I do.

Because I feel the only way
we can change our society,

the only way we can change
the justice system –

which has really improved
in our country –

is to help get the systems right.

So, on 26th October last year,
after 18 years in prison,

I walked out of prison
on presidential pardon.

I’m now focused on helping APP –
the African Prisons Project –

achieve its mandate
of training and setting up

the first law school
and legal college behind bars.

Where we are going to train –

(Applause)

Where we are going to train
inmates and staff

not only to assist their fellow inmates,

but to assist the entire
wider society of the poor

who cannot access legal justice.

So as I speak before you today,

I stand here in the full knowledge
that we can all reexamine ourselves,

we can all reexamine our situations,

we can all reexamine our circumstances

and not play the victim narrative.

The victim narrative
will not take us anywhere.

I was behind bars, yeah.

But I never felt and I was not a prisoner.

The basic thing I got to learn

was that if I thought,

and if you think, you can,

you will.

But if you sit thinking that you can’t,

you won’t.

It’s as simple as that.

And so I’m encouraged
by the peaceful revolutionaries

I’ve heard on this stage.

The world needs you now,
the world needs you today.

And as I finish my talk,

I’d just like to ask
each and every single one of you here,

wonderful thinkers,
changemakers, innovators,

the wonderful global citizens
we have at TED,

just remember the words
of Martin Luther King.

Let them continue ringing
in your heart and your life.

Whatever it is,

wherever you are,

whatever it takes,

keep on moving.

Thank you.

(Applause)

Thank you.

(Applause)

我想给你讲一个关于曼森的故事。

曼森是这位 28 岁的
室内设计师,

是一位慈爱女儿的父亲,

也是一个

因司法系统崩溃而身陷囹圄的儿子。

他被诬陷为他没有犯下的谋杀罪

并被判处绞刑。

这起谋杀案有两名
受害者——实际上死于谋杀的受害者

和曼森,他因

未犯下的罪行而被判入狱。

他和其他 13 名成年男子被关在一个
8 人乘 7 人

的牢房里,

每天 23 个半小时。

食物不能保证你会得到。

我记得昨天,

当我走进我所在的房间时,

我想象着
曼森会住在那种牢房里。

因为厕所——那里

的一排小房间

比八间—— 由七个单元格。

但是在
等待刽子手的时候,他在那个牢房里——

因为在监狱里,
他没有名字——

曼森被一个数字所认识。

他只是一个统计数字。

他不知道自己还要等多久。

等待可能是一分钟

,刽子手
可能下一分钟

,第二天,

或者可能需要 30 年。

等待没有结束。

在极度痛苦

、精神折磨和曼森面临

的许多悬而未决的问题
中,

他知道他
不会扮演受害者。

他拒绝扮演受害者的角色。


对将他投入监狱的司法系统感到愤怒。

但他知道,
他可以改变司法系统

或帮助其他人伸张正义

的唯一方法不是扮演受害者。

当曼森决定

宽恕那些把他关进监狱的人时,他发生了变化。

我说这是事实。

因为我知道曼森是谁。

我是曼森。

我的真名是彼得·曼森·奥科。

在我确信

之后,在那次宽恕的觉醒之后,

我采取了这一举措

来帮助改变这个系统。

我已经决定
不再成为受害者。

但是,我将如何帮助
改变一个

每天都会带来年轻囚犯的系统,

他们应该与他们的家人在一起?

所以我开始动员
监狱里的同事,我的狱友,

给司法系统

、司法服务委员会写信和备忘录,给我们国家肯尼亚成立

的众多工作
组,

以帮助修改宪法。

我们决定抓住那些

——抓住那些稻草,
如果我可以用这个词的话——

只要让司法系统发挥作用,

并为所有人服务。

几乎在同一时间,

我遇到了一位来自英国的年轻大学
毕业生,

名叫亚历山大·麦克莱恩。

亚历山大和他的三四个
大学同事

在他们的间隔年进来了

,他们想帮忙,

在 Kamiti 最大监狱建立了一个图书馆

,如果你用谷歌搜索,

你会发现它
是 15 个最糟糕的监狱之一 世界上的监狱。

那时就是这样。

但当亚历山大进来时,

他还是一个 20 岁的小男孩。

那时我在死囚牢房。

我们把他带到了我们的翅膀下。

这是一个诚实的信任问题。

他信任我们,即使
我们在死囚牢房。

通过这种信任,

我们看到他和他
大学的同事们

用最新的技术翻新图书馆,


按照非常好的标准建立了医务室,

这样我们这些在监狱里生病的人


不必在屈辱中死去。

认识了亚历山大,

我有机会

,他给了我机会
和支持,

让我在伦敦大学攻读大学学位

就像曼德拉
从南非学习一样,

我有机会
在卡米蒂最高安全监狱学习。

两年后,

我成为

了伦敦
大学监狱系统内的第一个项目毕业生。

毕业了,接下来呢——

(掌声)

谢谢。

(鼓掌)

毕业了

,感觉自己有力量了。

我不会
扮演无助的受害者。

但我觉得
自己不仅有能力帮助自己

,起诉我自己的案件,

还可以帮助其他

遭受类似不公正待遇的囚犯

所以我开始
为他们写法律简报。

和监狱里的其他同事一起,
我们尽了最大努力。

那还不够。

Alexander McLean

和他
在非洲监狱项目的团队

决定支持更多的囚犯。

正如我今天对你们所说,肯尼亚监狱管理局

有 63 名囚犯和工作
人员通过远程学习

在伦敦大学学习法律

(掌声)

他们是变革者,他们

不仅要帮助
社会上最懒惰的人,

还要帮助囚犯
和其他人获得正义。

在我的牢房里,有
什么东西一直在搅动我。

马丁路德金的话
一直在打击我。

他总是告诉我,
“Pete,如果你不能飞,

你可以跑

。如果你不能跑,

你可以走路。

但如果你不能走路,

那么你可以爬行。

但不管是什么 ,无论如何

,继续前进。”

所以我有这种继续前进的冲动。

无论我做什么,我仍然有这种继续前进的冲动。

因为我觉得
我们可以改变我们的社会

的唯一方法,我们可以改变司法系统的唯一方法
——

这在我们国家已经得到了真正的改善
——

就是帮助建立正确的系统。

因此,去年 10 月 26 日,
在入狱 18 年后,


在总统特赦下走出了监狱。

我现在专注于帮助 APP
(非洲监狱项目)完成


培训和

建立第一所法学院
和法学院的使命。

我们将在哪里培训——

(掌声)

我们将在哪里培训
囚犯和工作人员,

不仅是为了帮助他们的狱友,

而且是为了帮助整个
更广泛的社会

中无法获得法律正义的穷人。

因此,当我今天在你们面前发言时,

我站在这里完全
知道我们都可以重新审视自己,

我们都可以重新审视我们的处境,

我们都可以重新审视我们的境遇,

而不是扮演受害者的故事。

受害者的叙述
不会把我们带到任何地方。

我在监狱里,是的。

但我从来没有感觉到,我不是囚犯。

我要学习的基本知识

是,如果我想

,如果你想,你能,

你就会。

但如果你坐着想你不能,

你就不会。

就这么简单。

因此,我

在这个舞台上听到的和平革命者鼓舞了我。

世界现在需要你
,世界今天需要你。

当我结束我的演讲时,

我想问
你们每一个人

,优秀的思想家、
变革者、创新者,

我们在 TED 拥有的优秀的全球公民,

请记住
马丁·路德·金的话。

让它们继续
在你的心中和你的生活中响起。

不管是什么,

无论你在哪里,

无论需要什么,

继续前进。

谢谢你。

(掌声)

谢谢。

(掌声)