How to Combat the Internets Hate Problem

Transcriber: Christina F. Emil
Reviewer: David DeRuwe

I want to start off by taking you
way back to January 10th, 1980.

Do you remember what
you were doing that day?

Were you even born then?

That’s the day my family
arrived in Canada.

You see, we were members
of the Baha’i faith,

a religious minority in Iran
that was persecuted.

But we were lucky.

Canada offered us citizenship,

something I’ll always
be grateful to Canada for.

When we arrived at our local town,
the newspaper even featured us.

That picture is of me as a small child.

When I arrived at school,
most of kids were really friendly,

but then a few characters came up to me
and said, “Go free the hostages in Iran.”

OK, first of all, it’s not “I-ran,”
it’s “Ee-ron,” but not a big deal.

I let that one go, but did these kids
think I could free the hostages?

I was a child, after all -
not a good starting point.

This is way before the internet,

so I couldn’t even reach
the decision maker if I wanted to.

But I think what they
were really trying to say is,

“You don’t belong; you’re not one of us.”

It’s the same feeling
a lot of immigrants get.

They feel rejected by their old country,

and they’re not fully embraced
by their new country, right?

I’m sure some of you experienced that.

Exclusion, hate, and prejudice,
of course, are not new.

What’s new, however, is that much
of this has now gone online.

Increasingly online,

we’re seeing a lot of acts of violence
also tied to this hate.

For example, in 2017,

we saw hundreds of thousands of people
ethnically cleansed in Myanmar

because of communication
that was going on Facebook beforehand.

In Christchurch, New Zealand,
where I used to be a professor,

we saw Muslims gunned down at two mosques.

Over 50 Muslims were killed.

In the United States,
we’ve seen a number of these as well,

a number of acts of hate-driven violence
against particular ethnic groups.

We saw African-Americans killed
in a church in Charleston, South Carolina,

we saw Jews killed
in the synagogue in Pittsburgh,

we saw Hispanics killed in El Paso, Texas,

and recently we saw Asian Americans
targeted in Atlanta, right?

So we’ve seen these
across many parts of the country,

targeting many different groups.

But what can we do about hate
when we see it online?

That’s what I want to talk about today.

I want to talk about five lessons
from academic research

that you can use yourself
when you see hate online

that can potentially
help reduce that hate.

Now, when we talk about hate speech,

we have to realize that the most
dangerous kind of hate speech

is against groups of people.

Here, an entire group
is cast as a negative stereotype,

and if you can successfully do this,

then everyone in that group is responsible
for the negative acts of one,

and they’re all somehow at fault, right?

The entire group becomes blamed.

So when you see this online,
we see negative stereotypes online,

what you can do is try to break that up.

What you’re doing when you kind of
collectivize people in the negative whole

is you kind of dehumanize them.

They become a collective mass
and not individuals anymore.

So what you can do
is to individualize them again

and talk about individuals in positive
ways from that group, right?

So you take collective
negative stereotypes,

and you talk about individuals
in a positive light.

That’s the first lesson
that you can try if you see it online.

The second lesson has to do

with contradictory positions
that people often have, right?

Sometimes people have
very positive views of the wrong group

and very negative
views of another group, right?

And so somehow they’re kind of
holding a double standard,

and you can tap into that
in your communication with people

to try to unpack prejudice.

Let me talk about one study
that’s really interesting in this regard.

People were asked: “Should
Muslims be collectively blamed

for the terrorist act
of a particular Muslim?”

A number of people said, “Yes.”

Then they were put in scenarios

where they were presented
with an act of terrorism by a Christian,

and they were asked
if Christians be blamed.

Many people said, “No, of course not.

My group can’t be blamed
for the act of an individual.

That’s just a crazy person, right?”

And then they were asked again,

“Should Muslims be blamed
for the collective actions,

the negative actions
of an individual collectively?”

Some people who said “Yes,”
then said “No” -

they realized they had
this kind of double standard,

this hypocritical position.

What was rightly going on there

is that they had
cognitive dissonance, right?

They had this kind of contradiction
going on in their mind.

And so to alleviate that,

they had to shift their position
to have cognitive consistency.

People like to have cognitive consistency,

so you can tap into that
to challenge a lot of hate and prejudice,

which really is irrational
if you actually dig down into it.

So that’s lesson number two.

Lesson number three, we communicate
with people, try to be credible,

and to be credible,

that means you often don’t come
from your own point of view,

but you try to tap into people
that are held in high regard

by the group you’re trying
to influence, right?

And this might be passed
to them by a leader,

but it can also be special text
that they hold in high regard,

maybe a constitution or holy book.

There are many lofty statements
in these kinds of texts -

if you can tap into those,

you’ll more likely convince people

that might come
from a different point of view

than talking about it yourself.

So try that, try to come across
with credibility.

That’s lesson number three.

Lesson number four.

When you see hate online,

what you often want to do is call
that person a hater or a racist, right,

but try to avoid this temptation
because this is often counterproductive.

Try to engage in constructive dialogue,
and what you can do is ask them questions:

Why do you say what you’re saying?
What are you hoping to achieve?

Did you know that what you’re saying

could actually lead
to people getting hurt?

What kind of world do you
want to leave your children?

These kinds of questions unpack
people’s motivations

and interestingly, it helps them open up,
but also helps you understand them better.

What you often realize
is that people aren’t just haters,

but they’re coming from a position
of trying to protect their “in” group,

and then by doing that, sometimes
they’re saying hateful things

about those who think might threaten
their “in” group or their way of life.

And if you try to kind of get
into conversations at this level,

this level of motivation,
then you can often find common ground.

One quote that’s really wonderful
from Martin Luther King talked about this.

It says: “Darkness cannot drive
out darkness; only light can do that.

Hate cannot drive out hate;
only love can do that.”

Remember that next time you respond
to someone who says a hateful comment.

Try to engage with them
in a positive, constructive way.

Lesson number four.

Now, lesson number five
brings together all four of these lessons

and applies them to an online forum.

So when we’re on an online forum
when there’s hate,

there’s often people
that have other people supporting them.

So what you can do by going in there
and challenging this in a respectful way

is to essentially
try to change the online norm -

what’s acceptable and unacceptable
online in that forum?

And by trying to change the online norm,

you can get other people to join you
who might be standing back watching.

Others might have
like-minded views as yours,

but there may be reluctant to get in,

but when they see you step in,
they will also get in,

and this creates a kind of herding
effect where others will join,

and over time, you can change
the online norm.

And another effect this can have

is that it can make those
who are espousing hate step back, right?

There’s this other idea called
“the spiral of silence,”

which is how people feel
when they have unpopular views.

They usually don’t want to espouse them

because of the social
isolation they encounter.

So that can happen online as well.

People, if they see lots of people
challenging their hateful views,

will often step back and not engage,

and then you can start to change
the norms in that forum.

The most important people

that you can affect
are those who are vulnerable,

those who have certain grievances

that are similar to those
that are espousing hate

but haven’t committed
to a hateful ideology yet.

You can try to influence those people,

and some of them
are young, impressionable youth.

If you can get them
before they establish their positions,

then you can move them
in a direction away from hate.

OK, let’s recap those five lessons.

Do you remember what they are?

Lesson number one: Reframe the argument.

Remember, dehumanization
involves negative collectivization;

rehumanization involves
positive individualization.

Lesson number two: Challenge hypocrisy,
which is often irrational,

by challenging how people view
their group with other groups.

This can help drop collective blame.

Lesson number three:
Communicate with credibility.

Lesson number four: Be nice.
Engage in constructive dialogue.

And lesson number five:

Work with others to change
the online norm away from hate.

En route to a better world,

overcoming hate and prejudice

will be one of the greatest
challenges of this century.

However, with online tools,

they also bring a lot of opportunities
that we can tap into.

Remember this because we ultimately
have to share this one planet,

and it’s increasingly important
not to see the world as us and them,

but to see us all as one human family.

Thank you very much for listening.

抄写员:Christina F. Emil
审稿人:David DeRuwe

我想先带
你回到 1980 年 1 月 10 日。

你还记得
那天你在做什么吗?

你那时还出生吗?

那是我的家人抵达加拿大的那一天

你看,我们
是巴哈伊信仰的成员,这

是伊朗受到迫害的宗教少数群体

但我们很幸运。

加拿大为我们提供了公民身份,

我将
永远感谢加拿大。

当我们到达当地城镇时
,报纸甚至还报道了我们。

那张照片是我小时候的照片。

当我到达学校时,
大多数孩子都非常友好,

但随后有几个角色走到我
面前说:“去释放伊朗的人质。”

好吧,首先,这不是“我跑”,
而是“Ee-ron”,但没什么大不了的。

我放了那个人,但这些孩子
认为我可以解救人质吗?

毕竟,我还是个孩子——这
不是一个好的起点。

这比互联网还早,

所以
如果我想的话,我什至无法联系到决策者。

但我认为
他们真正想说的是,

“你不属于; 你不是我们中的一员。”

很多移民都有同样的感觉。

他们觉得自己被旧国家拒绝了,

也没有
被新国家完全接受,对吧?

我相信你们中的一些人经历过。 当然,

排斥、仇恨和偏见
并不新鲜。

然而,新鲜的是,其中
大部分已经上线。

越来越多的在线,

我们看到很多暴力行为
也与这种仇恨有关。

例如,在 2017 年,

我们看到缅甸有数十万人

因为
事先在 Facebook 上进行的交流而被种族清洗。

在我曾经担任教授的新西兰基督城,

我们看到穆斯林在两座清真寺被枪杀。

50多名穆斯林被杀。

在美国,
我们也看到了其中的一些

,一些针对特定种族的仇恨驱动的暴力行为

我们看到非洲裔美国人
在南卡罗来纳州查尔斯顿的一座教堂

被杀,我们看到犹太人
在匹兹堡的犹太教堂被杀,

我们看到西班牙裔美国人在德克萨斯州的埃尔帕索被杀

,最近我们看到亚裔美国人
在亚特兰大成为袭击目标,对吧?

因此,我们在全国许多地方都看到了这些

针对许多不同的群体。

但是
当我们在网上看到仇恨时,我们能做些什么呢?

这就是我今天要谈的。

我想谈谈
学术研究中的五个教训,

当你在网上看到仇恨时,你

可以自己使用它们,这可能
有助于减少这种仇恨。

现在,当我们谈论仇恨言论时,

我们必须意识到最
危险的仇恨言论

是针对人群的。

在这里,整个群体都
被塑造成一种负面的刻板印象

,如果你能成功地做到这一点,

那么那个群体中的每个人都要
为一个人的负面行为负责,

而且他们都有过错,对吧?

整个群体都受到指责。

所以当你在网上看到这个,
我们在网上看到负面的刻板印象,

你能做的就是试着打破它。

当你
在消极的整体中将人们集体化

时,你所做的就是让他们失去人性。

他们成为一个集体,
而不是个人。

所以你能做的
就是再次将他们

个性化,并以积极的
方式谈论该群体中的个人,对吗?

因此,您采取集体
负面刻板印象,


以积极的态度谈论个人。

如果您在网上看到它,这是您可以尝试的第一课。

第二个教训与

人们经常拥有的矛盾立场有关,对吧?

有时人们
对错误的群体有非常积极的看法,


对另一个群体有非常消极的看法,对吗?

所以不知何故,他们有点
持有双重标准

,你可以
在与人的交流中利用这一点

,试图消除偏见。

让我谈谈
在这方面非常有趣的一项研究。

人们被问到:“穆斯林是否应该

因特定穆斯林的恐怖行为
而受到集体指责?”

不少人说:“是的。”

然后他们被置于

一个基督徒向他们展示恐怖主义行为的场景中

,他们
被问及基督徒是否受到指责。

很多人说:“不,当然不是。

我的团队不能因为
个人的行为而受到指责。

那只是个疯子,对吧?”

然后他们又被问到:

“穆斯林应该
为集体行为、

个人集体的负面行为而受到指责吗?”

有些人说“是”,
然后说“不”——

他们意识到他们有
这种双重标准,

这种虚伪的立场。

正确的情况

是他们有
认知失调,对吗?

他们脑子里一直在酝酿着这样的
矛盾。

因此,为了缓解这种情况,

他们必须改变立场
以保持认知一致性。

人们喜欢有认知一致性,

所以你可以利用它
来挑战很多仇恨和偏见,

如果你真的深入研究它,这真的是不合理的。

这是第二课。

第三课,我们
与人交流,努力做到可信

,要可信,

这意味着你通常不是
从自己的角度出发,

而是试图接触
那些被团队高度重视

的人 你
想影响,对吧?

这可能是
由领导传递给他们的,

但也可能
是他们高度重视的特殊文本,

可能是宪法或圣书。 这类文本中

有许多崇高的
陈述——

如果你能利用这些,

你更有可能说服

那些可能
来自不同观点的人,而

不是自己谈论它。

所以尝试一下,尝试
获得可信度。

这是第三课。

第四课。

当您在网上看到仇恨时,

您通常想做的就是称
那个人为仇恨者或种族主义者,对,

但请尽量避免这种诱惑,
因为这通常会适得其反。

尝试进行建设性的对话
,你能做的就是问他们问题:

你为什么要说你在说什么?
你希望达到什么目标?

你知道你说的

话实际上会
导致人们受伤吗?

你想给孩子留下什么样的世界?

这类问题可以
激发人们的动机

,有趣的是,它可以帮助他们敞开心扉,
也可以帮助你更好地理解他们。

您经常
意识到,人们不仅仅是仇恨者,

而且他们
来自试图保护他们的“内部”群体,

然后通过这样做,有时
他们

会对那些认为可能威胁的人说可恨的话
他们的“在”群体或他们的生活方式。

如果你尝试
在这个层面上进行对话,

这个层面的动机,
那么你通常可以找到共同点。

马丁路德金引用的一段非常精彩的话
谈到了这一点。

它说:“黑暗不能
驱除黑暗; 只有光能做到这一点。

仇恨不能驱逐仇恨;
只有爱才能做到这一点。”

请记住,下次您
回应某人发表仇恨评论时。

尝试
以积极、建设性的方式与他们互动。

第四课。

现在,第五课
汇集了所有这四课

,并将它们应用于在线论坛。

因此,当我们在存在仇恨的在线论坛上
时,

通常
会有其他人支持他们。

因此,通过进入那里
并以尊重的方式挑战这一点,您可以做的

是从本质上
尝试改变在线规范 -

在该论坛中在线可以接受和不可接受的内容是什么?

通过尝试改变在线规范,

您可以让其他
可能站在后面观看的人加入您的行列。

别人可能
和你有志同道合的想法,

但可能不愿意进去,

但是看到你进来,
他们也会进来

,这就形成了一种
羊群效应,别人也会加入

,久而久之, 您可以
更改在线规范。

这可能产生的另一个影响

是它可以让
那些支持仇恨的人退后,对吗?

还有一个想法叫做
“沉默的螺旋”

,这是
人们在有不受欢迎的观点时的感受。

由于
他们遇到的社会孤立,他们通常不想拥护他们。

所以这也可以在网上发生。

人们,如果他们看到很多人
挑战他们的仇恨观点,

他们通常会退后一步,不参与,

然后你可以开始改变
那个论坛的规范。 你可以影响

的最重要的人

是那些脆弱的人,

那些有某些委屈

的人,类似于
那些支持仇恨


尚未致力于仇恨意识形态的人。

你可以试着去影响那些人,

其中一些
是年轻的、易受影响的年轻人。

如果你能
在他们确立立场之前得到他们,

那么你就可以让
他们远离仇恨。

好的,让我们回顾一下这五节课。

你还记得它们是什么吗?

第一课:重新构建论点。

请记住,去人性化
涉及消极的集体化;

再人性化涉及
积极的个体化。

第二课:

通过挑战人们如何看待
他们与其他群体的方式来挑战通常是非理性的虚伪。

这可以帮助消除集体责任。

第三课:
以可信度进行沟通。

第四课:友善。
进行建设性对话。

第五课:

与他人合作,
改变网络规范,远离仇恨。

在通往更美好世界的路上,

克服仇恨和偏见

将是本世纪最大的
挑战之一。

但是,借助在线工具,

它们也带来了很多
我们可以利用的机会。

记住这一点,因为我们最终
必须共享这个星球,

而且越来越重要的是
不要将世界视为我们和他们,

而是将我们所有人视为一个人类大家庭。

非常感谢您的聆听。