Interview with an educator 4 paths for productive conversations about bias Amber Cabral

The first thing I think that is important

is that you enter this space
and any space with bravery.

People are going to judge you, you’re
going to judge people,

everybody’s making mistakes
all over everywhere.

In my trainings I usually tell people,

everybody’s biasing all over
everywhere, it’s happening.

And so the thing that’s really important
is just to be prepared for the possibility

that you will be offended and
also that you will offend.

And one of the ways that you can do
that is just carry the spirit of apology.

Be prepared to apologize.

An apology is not “if I offended you,”
it’s not conditional,

it is literally, “I am sorry for”
“Going forward I will”

“I am sorry for mispronouncing your name,
going forward I will say it correctly.”

It’s––just being able to do that
goes a very long way.

The other thing is respect people how
you want your loved ones respected.

So a lot of people say, “Treat people how
you want to be treated.”

But I don’t know that we do a good job
being conscious

of how we are treating ourselves,

I don’t know that we do a good job
thinking about how we want to be treated.

But we know how we want our
kids to be treated.

We know how we want our parents
to be treated.

And so when you are
engaging with people,

especially when there’s an opportunity
for you to encounter someone

different than you––

rather than doing that “similarity bias”
and scampering to your familiar spaces

or conforming to the norm,

make a pointed effort to say,

“What if that was my aunt,
or my uncle or my children,”

someone that you really care about,

“What would I want respect
to feel like for them?”

“How do I create a space that makes
them feel safe

in the way that I would want someone
I really love to feel safe?”

And then the last thing is just
reminding yourself that

you can be––you can hold several
ideas in your mind;

you can hold several stories; you are
comprised of so many layers.

And just as you have that,
others have that,

and so you don’t get the
opportunity to have––

you can’t grow, you can’t experience
the world, you can’t…

there’s so much you miss out on
by not opening up your aperture

so that you can invite
the stories of others,

other than the one that they
show you immediately,

other than the one that you
see with your own two eyes,

how do you get to that next level,
where it’s like,

I would never have imagined that this
is an experience that a person can have,

and there’s so much richness there.

And so I just think it’s important for us
to at least keep those 3 things in mind

so that we can create the
experiences necessary

to give each other the grace to grow and
live in the fullness of our identities.

The better we can do at teaching our
children and our families and our friends,

and I teach adults,

that people need to both be
okay in their identity

as well as invite others to share
the parts of their identity.

It’s not a––it’s a personal
personal personal thing,

but it’s also a thing that’s shared and
that’s a very interesting place to be in

and so we have to be a bit more
deliberate about making sure

that we recognize that it’s going
to share these two spaces,

and so there’re going to be times when
you can dip into a very personal space,

and you need to give someone the room
to do the same with you.

我认为重要的第一件事

是你勇敢地进入这个空间
和任何空间。

人们会评判你,你
会评判别人,

每个人
都在到处犯错误。

在我的训练中,我通常会告诉人们,

每个人的偏见
无处不在,它正在发生。

所以真正重要的事情
就是为

你可能会被冒犯
以及你会冒犯的可能性做好准备。

你可以做到这一点的方法之一
就是带着道歉的精神。

准备道歉。

道歉不是“如果我冒犯了你”,
它不是有条件的,

而是字面意思,“我很抱歉”
“我会”

“我很抱歉误读了你的名字,
我会正确地说出来。”

它是——仅仅能够做到这
一点有很长的路要走。

另一件事是尊重人们,
你希望你所爱的人得到怎样的尊重。

所以很多人说,“
以你希望被对待的方式对待他人。”

但我不知道我们

意识到自己如何对待自己方面

做得很好,我不知道我们在
思考我们希望如何被对待方面做得很好。

但我们知道我们希望如何对待我们的
孩子。

我们知道我们希望我们的父母
受到怎样的对待。

因此,当你
与人交往

时,尤其是当你有
机会遇到与你不同的人时——

而不是做那种“相似性偏见”
并跑到你熟悉的空间

或遵守规范

,要努力说 ,

“如果那是我的阿姨,
或者我的叔叔或我的孩子,”

你真正关心的人,


我希望对他们有什么样的尊重?”

“我如何创造一个让
他们感到安全

的空间,就像我希望
我真正爱的人感到安全一样?”

然后最后一件事就是
提醒自己,

你可以——你可以
在脑海中持有几个想法;

您可以保存多个故事; 你是
由很多层组成的。

就像你拥有那样,
其他人拥有那样

,所以你没有
机会拥有——

你无法成长,你无法体验
这个世界,你无法……

你错过了太多
不打开你的光圈,

让你可以邀请
别人的故事,

除了他们
立即向你展示的故事,

除了你
用自己的两只眼睛看到的故事,

你如何进入下一个层次,
在哪里,

我从来没有想过这
是一个人可以拥有的体验,

而且那里有这么多的丰富性。

所以我只是认为对我们
来说至少记住这三件事很重要,

这样我们才能创造
必要

的经验,让彼此有恩典,让彼此成长并
生活在我们完整的身份中。

我们在教导我们的
孩子、我们的家人和我们的朋友方面做得越好

,我也教导成年人

,人们
需要在自己的身份

上保持良好状态,并邀请其他人
分享他们身份的一部分。

这不是——这是一件私人的
私人事情,

但它也是一件可以分享的事情,
这是一个非常有趣的地方

,所以我们必须更加
慎重地

确保我们认识到它
会分享这些 两个空间

,所以有时候
你可以进入一个非常私人的空间

,你需要给别人一个空间
来和你做同样的事情。