How communities can combat racism hate and extremism

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what

killed 11 jews in a synagogue

in u.s last year

what killed 51 muslims

in a mosque in christchurch this year

what killed 259

christians during easter holiday

in a church in sri lanka this year

what killed them is not the bomb

it’s not the gun what killed them

what killed them was a silent

a far more deadlier weapon

what killed them was prejudice

what killed this people was prejudice

in the name of islamophobia

anti-semitism

xenophobia terrorism

what killed them was an extreme

manifestation

of prejudice prejudice

which anyone else might carry

prejudice which some of us face

prejudice is a common human experience

when we don’t know someone enough and

they’re different from us

we form preconceived opinions

we would based on whatever information

we have come up with an idea

of who they could be when we

are only fed with negative information

we project negative attitudes

negative feeling that

is prejudice that vacuum

relationship of not knowing enough

not wanting to know enough that vacuum

relationship

develops prejudice i had an experience

about four years ago i was in a taxi

and we went for some distance at a

traffic light stop

the taxi driver asked this question that

took me back

he asked me if i know how to make bombs

i couldn’t believe what he asked

i couldn’t believe that that happened to

me

in singapore my country

known worldwide for racial and religious

harmony

there is a man who asked me if i know

how to make bombs

bombs that killed people

i replied back immediately i was angry i

replied to him

i do know how to make do you want to

learn how to make one too

he smirked before i could reply to him

my sister tapped on me

asked me to calm down so that we can go

home

safely and peacefully but

i was furious my mind was crackling with

questions why why did he ask me that

question

was it funny for him was it amusing

did he not know that it was

inconsiderate

was it because i was wearing a scarf

the very disturbing question was it

islamophobic question

over the years whenever i do my hash

piece programs i would share about this

with people

everyone felt that he was ignorant and

it wasn’t islam of a big question

but you see he’s not the only one

15.6 of respondents from the institute

of policy study survey

find muslims somewhat or very

threatening

15.6 of my population

might fear muslims

why what is so scary about a person like

me

researchers say that this association of

muslims with global terror

is a fear that has set in many people

and when they

lack the exposure and don’t have the

opportunity to know

muslims especially muslims like me

better that fear

remains unchallenged

they walk around thinking that people

like me will blow them up

fifteen point six percent of people

might think like that

how do we resolve this what can we do

about it

martin buber scholar theologian

philosopher

he has this idea of genuine dialogue

which is what started me

to to start my hash peace movement

genuine dialogue it’s not a conversation

it’s not a talk

genuine dialogue is

probably a solution that is effective

to clear away prejudice from people let

me share with you

before tweenie before october this year

you would never find me in a photo like

that

i absolutely resisted and disliked being

in a room with women who wear face wheel

even though we are from the same

religion it made me very uncomfortable

they were different from me and that

difference is not okay with me

i’m not comfortable and from the little

that i know about them i thought they

were conservative

they were narrow-minded and to them

women like me

not good women

so i i would i would avoid it

but this year as part of our hashps

program i had an opportunity to have an

audience with some students from islamic

institute in india

so i visited them and then i was told

that face

veil would be part of the dress code and

i was like no way

i think i should back out but that’s the

purpose of the work i do

to step into such zones i went

about three hours i was surprised at who

i met

that room has orators as poets

as web designers

i changed my opinion about them they had

such strong

individualistic view some of them have

very strong political views as well

moderate politicals we saw eye to eye

beyond that cloth

my prejudice changed into a positive

feeling

because of that dialogue i could create

with that

that genuine dialogue requires

a very important aspect that is a

relationship that we establish

now if i had walked into that room

and thought of those women as the muslim

women wearing face calf

i would have been the other in the room

the one

not wearing the face cuff

so how could i connect with them i saw

them as someone who likes to travel

as someone who also appreciates poem i

found

that connecting link that

in between that allowed me to create a

dialogue with them

but it’s not so easy

because genuine dialogue requires honest

relationship

for you to have honest relationship you

need to admit and

face the very factor that divides this

group of people

the elephant in this room is not

the choice of clothing what

actually divided us what made me

uncomfortable with women like that

it is the difference in disagreement in

the

philosophy of modesty

we did not agree on that aspect which is

why we could never come together

i had to face that i had to walk into

the room

knowing who i am and that allowed me and

they were very welcoming of me

i didn’t feel uncomfortable at all i was

wrong all this illusion i had about them

went away but you see establishing that

relationship is also quite difficult

let me share with you a very challenging

time i had

the muslim community is divided into

many branches and

two main branches are this sunni and

shia muslims i come from the dominant

sunnish

muslims category and when i was invited

to meet a group of sham muslims

i was not so sure if that’s a good idea

to do

you see same same different is easy to

handle

same same not same very difficult very

confusing

i was like if this was the group that i

was taught to

hate this was the group of people

i was told a deviant from our belief

they were not us they do not follow what

we do

and i was told we do not use the word

shah and muslim in the same sentence

these were the views that were engrained

in me for over 30 years

how do i unwire this and walk into a

room

and engage with these people will

talking to them

make me acceptance of the deviance will

i become wrong

will people in my community accept me

will i be kicked out

so many questions so many fear so much

of worry

but i went i sat in i couldn’t agree

with a lot of things

because what i believe is what i believe

but i could engage with them i met

mothers i met brothers

i met people who liked the same food and

we managed to establish

a sort of a trust yes we disagree we

still disagree

we didn’t change what we believe in but

yet we could

engage our trust level i walked out

knowing that

should something happen should some

threat happen to our social harmony i

know these people would stand with me

but it was difficult it’s mentally

exhausting

to be able to unwire yourself and rewire

yourself

and engineer yourself to be in such

situations

and listen to people you have been told

to disagree

and you did disagree

but how do we overcome that

over the years from all the dialogues

and the conversations that i had

i realized this two characteristics if

developed

could help with this confidence

and courage

confidence my mother always said if you

were confident

about who you are if you

know what you believe in you’re clear

in your thought of what shapes you you

can walk into any room

you can go anywhere and not be worried

about the external factors that will

falter you

that confidence when i walked into the

room

with women who wear face veil i was very

confident that my choice

was a good choice i made that choice i

was very confident

nothing will threaten me nothing nothing

will make me question

that confidence takes years takes

comfort

you need to be comfortable with yourself

courage when i

accepted the invitation from the muslims

and i went to meet them

i told myself i will take anything that

comes at me for doing so

i will face any criticism

any sarcasm any consequences

for doing so because i know i had to do

this

i had a prejudice i need to resolve it

so i courageously made up my mind

to take whatever comes now without that

courage you will not be able to sit

through situations

which require you to change your

perspective of people

who are very different from you and you

don’t agree with

so confidence and courage helps you

to overcome the elephants in the room

the wrong ideas in the room

the misconceptions and it will help you

find that middle ground the common space

where you can engage with that you see

dialogue genuine dialogue is not

a process it’s an outcome that outcome

requires you to establish a relationship

and for that we need to work towards it

we need to take effort can you imagine

if this

micro level dialogues that i had with

just two

encounters are scaled up if

everyone could take an effort can you

imagine the impact it would have

on the racial religious harmony all my

dialogues all my interactions took about

three hours

three hours and that three hours i

changed my opinion

about women who wears face male i

changed my opinion

about a group that for over 30 years i

was told to hate and avoid

just three hours now if every one of us

could just spend that three hours

that three hours will let us decide if

we live in harmony

or healed just

three hours thank you

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去年在我们的一个犹太教堂里杀死了 11 名犹太人 今年

在基督城的一座清真寺里杀死了 51 名穆斯林

今年在斯里兰卡的一个教堂里复活节假期杀死了 259 名基督徒

杀死他们的不是炸弹

杀死他们的不是枪

杀死他们的是沉默

一种更致命的

武器 杀死他们的是

偏见 杀死了这个人 是以

仇视伊斯兰教的名义的偏见

反犹太主义

仇外

恐怖主义 杀死他们的是偏见的极端

表现

偏见 任何其他人都可能带有

偏见 我们中的一些人面临

偏见是一种常见的人类经验

当我们对某人不够了解并且

他们与我们不同时

我们形成先入为主的意见

我们会根据我们提出的任何信息

了解谁 它们可能是当我们

只接受负面信息时,

我们会投射负面态度

负面感觉,

即偏见,真空

关系 不

知道不够 不想知道真空

关系会

产生偏见 我大约四年前有过一次经历

,我在出租车上

,我们在红绿灯站走了一段距离

出租车司机问了这个问题,

让我回过神来

他问我 如果我知道如何制造炸弹,

我简直不敢相信他问什么

炸死人的炸弹

我马上回复

我生气了 我们可以

安全、平静地回家,但

我很生气,我的脑子里满是

问题,为什么他问我这个

问题

对他来说很有趣吗?这很有趣吗?

他不知道这是

不体贴的吗?

是因为我是我们 戴上

围巾 非常令人不安的问题是,

多年来,每当我做我的

散列节目时,我都会与人们分享这个

问题 政策

研究所调查中只有 15.6 的受访者

认为穆斯林有些或非常具有

威胁性

15.6 的人口

可能害怕穆斯林

为什么像我这样的人如此可怕

研究人员说,

穆斯林与全球恐怖的这种联系

是一种恐惧 设置在许多人身上

,当他们

缺乏曝光率并且没有

机会了解

穆斯林,尤其是像

我这样的穆斯林,恐惧

仍然没有受到挑战时,

他们四处走动,认为像我这样的人

会把他们炸毁

15% 6% 的人

可能会这样想

我们如何解决这个问题 我们能做些

什么

马丁·布伯 学者 神学

哲学家

他有这种真正对话的想法

是什么让

我开始了我的哈希和平运动

真正的对话这不是对话

这不是谈话

真正的对话

可能是一种

有效消除人们偏见的解决方案让

在今年 10 月之前与你分享

你永远找不到 我在这样的照片中

我绝对拒绝和不喜欢和

戴着面轮的女人呆在一个房间里,

即使我们来自同一个

宗教,这让我很不舒服,

他们和我不同,这种

差异对我来说不合适,

我是 不舒服,从

我对她们的了解很少,我认为她们

很保守,

她们心胸狭窄,对

她们来说,像我

这样的女人不是好女人,

所以我会避免它,

但今年作为我们 hashps

计划的一部分,我有机会

与来自印度伊斯兰学院的一些学生会面

所以我拜访了他们,然后我被告知

面纱将成为着装规范的一部分,

我想

我不可能 认为我应该退出,但这就是

我进入这些区域的工作的目的我走了

大约三个小时我很惊讶

我遇到了

那个房间里有演说家作为诗人

作为网页设计师

我改变了我对他们的看法他们有

如此强大

个人主义观点 他们中的一些人有

非常强烈的政治观点以及

温和的政治观点 我们在这块布之外看到了一致的看法

我的偏见变成了一种积极的

感觉,

因为我可以

与之建立

对话,真正的对话需要

一个非常重要的方面,那就是

关系 我们

现在确定,如果我走进那个房间

并认为那些女人是

戴着小腿脸的穆斯林妇女,

我会是房间里的另一个

不戴面袖的人,

所以我怎么能与她们联系,我认为

她们是 一个喜欢旅行

的人,一个也欣赏诗歌的

人 因为真正的对话需要诚实的

关系

才能拥有诚实的关系你

需要承认并

面对分裂

这群人

的因素这个房间里的大象不是

衣服的选择

真正分裂我们的是什么让我

对这样的女人感到不舒服

这是谦虚哲学中分歧的差异,

我们在这方面没有达成一致,这就是

为什么我们永远无法走到一起

我不得不面对我必须

走进房间

知道我是谁,这允许我,

他们非常 欢迎我,

我一点也不感到不舒服我

错了我对他们的所有幻想

都消失了,但是你看,建立这种

关系也很困难

让我与你分享一个非常具有挑战性的

时期,我

将穆斯林社区划分为

许多分支和

两个主要分支是逊尼派和

什叶派穆斯林 我来自占主导地位的

逊尼派

穆斯林类别,当我被

邀请会见一群假穆斯林时 lims

我不太确定这是否是个好主意

你看到 相同 相同 不同 很容易

处理

相同 相同 不一样 非常困难 非常

混乱

我想如果这是我

被教导

讨厌的群体 这是一群人

有人告诉我,他们与我们的信念背道而驰,

他们不是我们,他们不遵循

我们的做法

,有人告诉我,我们

不在同一个句子中使用 shah 和 muslim 这个词

这些是

我 30 多年来根深蒂固

的观点 我是否会解开这个并走进一个

房间

并与这些人接触会

与他们交谈

让我接受这种偏差

我会变得错误

我的社区中的人们会接受我

我会被踢出

这么多问题这么多人害怕这么

多担心吗

但我去了我坐

了很多事情我不能同意,

因为我相信我相信的,

但我可以和他们交往我遇到了

母亲我遇到了兄弟

我遇到了喜欢同样食物的人,

我们设法建立

了一个 一种信任是的,我们不同意 我们

仍然不同意

我们没有改变我们的信仰,

但我们可以

提高我们的信任度

能够解开自己并重新连接

自己

并设计自己以处于这种

情况下

并倾听您被告知

不同意

并且您确实不同意的人,

但是我们如何

从多年来的所有对话

和对话中克服这一点 如果

我意识到这两个特征如果

发展起来

可以帮助建立这种自信

和勇气

信心我妈妈总是说如果你

对自己有信心

如果你

知道你相信什么你很

清楚你

可以走路的形状 进入任何房间,

你可以去任何地方,不用担心

当我

和女人一起走进房间时会动摇你信心的外部因素 戴面纱的人 我非常有

信心我的选择

是一个好的选择 我做出了这个选择

我非常有信心

没有什么会威胁我 没有什么

不会让我

质疑 自信需要多年才能得到

安慰

你需要对自己感到舒服

当我接受时的勇气

穆斯林的邀请

和我去见他们

我告诉自己我会接受任何对

我的惩罚 需要解决它,

所以我勇敢地下定

决心接受现在发生的任何事情

没有勇气,你将无法

忍受需要你改变对

与你截然不同的人的看法的情况,你

不同意

所以信心和勇气可以帮助

你克服房间里的大象 房间里

的错误想法

误解,它会帮助你

找到中间立场 共同空间

w 在这里你可以参与你看到的

对话真正的对话不是

一个过程而是一个结果这个结果

需要你建立一种

关系为此我们需要努力

我们需要付出努力你能想象

如果我的这种

微观层面的对话

如果

每个人都可以努力的话,只有两次遭遇

就会扩大你能想象

它对种族宗教和谐的影响我

所有的对话我所有的互动都花了大约

三个小时

三个小时,而这三个小时我

改变了我

对女性的看法 面对男性我

改变了我

对一个团体的看法,30 多年来我

被告知要憎恨和避免

现在只有三个小时,如果我们每个人都

可以花三个小时

,那么三个小时将让我们决定我们是否

和睦相处

或 三个小时就痊愈了

谢谢你们

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你们