How to fix a broken education system ... without any more money Seema Bansal

So we all have our own biases.

For example, some of us tend to think

that it’s very difficult to transform
failing government systems.

When we think of government systems,

we tend to think that they’re archaic,
set in their ways,

and perhaps, the leadership
is just too bureaucratic

to be able to change things.

Well, today, I want
to challenge that theory.

I want to tell you a story
of a very large government system

that has not only put itself
on the path of reform

but has also shown
fairly spectacular results

in less than three years.

This is what a classroom
in a public school in India looks like.

There are 1 million such schools in India.

And even for me,
who’s lived in India all her life,

walking into one of these schools
is fairly heartbreaking.

By the time kids are 11,

50 percent of them have fallen
so far behind in their education

that they have no hope to recover.

11-year-olds cannot do simple addition,

they cannot construct
a grammatically correct sentence.

These are things that you and I
would expect an 8-year-old

to be able to do.

By the time kids are 13 or 14,

they tend to drop out of schools.

In India, public schools
not only offer free education –

they offer free textbooks,
free workbooks, free meals,

sometimes even cash scholarships.

And yet, 40 percent of the parents today

are choosing to pull their children
out of public schools

and pay out of their pockets
to put them in private schools.

As a comparison,
in a far richer country, the US,

that number is only 10 percent.

That’s a huge statement on how broken
the Indian public education system is.

So it was with that background
that I got a call in the summer of 2013

from an absolutely brilliant lady
called Surina Rajan.

She was, at that time, the head
of the Department of School Education

in a state called Haryana in India.

So she said to us, “Look, I’ve been
heading this department

for the last two years.

I’ve tried a number of things,
and nothing seems to work.

Can you possibly help?”

Let me describe Haryana
a little bit to you.

Haryana is a state
which has 30 million people.

It has 15,000 public schools

and 2 million plus
children in those public schools.

So basically, with that phone call,

I promised to help a state and system

which was as large as that of Peru
or Canada transform itself.

As I started this project,
I was very painfully aware of two things.

One, that I had never done
anything like this before.

And two, many others had,
perhaps without too much success.

As my colleagues and I
looked across the country

and across the world,

we couldn’t find another example

that we could just pick up
and replicate in Haryana.

We knew that we had to craft
our own journey.

But anyway, we jumped right in
and as we jumped in,

all sorts of ideas started flying at us.

People said, “Let’s change
the way we recruit teachers,

let’s hire new principals and train them

and send them on international
learning tours,

let’s put technology inside classrooms.”

By the end of week one,
we had 50 ideas on the table,

all amazing, all sounded right.

There was no way we were
going to be able to implement 50 things.

So I said, “Hang on, stop.

Let’s first at least decide
what is it we’re trying to achieve.”

So with a lot of push and pull and debate,

Haryana set itself a goal
which said: by 2020,

we want 80 percent of our children
to be at grade-level knowledge.

Now the specifics of the goal
don’t matter here,

but what matters
is how specific the goal is.

Because it really allowed us
to take all those ideas

which were being thrown at us

and say which ones
we were going to implement.

Does this idea support this goal?
If yes, let’s keep it.

But if it doesn’t or we’re not sure,
then let’s put it aside.

As simple as it sounds,
having a very specific goal right up front

has really allowed us to be
very sharp and focused

in our transformation journey.

And looking back over
the last two and a half years,

that has been a huge positive for us.

So we had the goal,

and now we needed to figure out
what are the issues, what is broken.

Before we went into schools,
a lot of people told us

that education quality is poor

because either the teachers are lazy,
they don’t come into schools,

or they’re incapable,
they actually don’t know how to teach.

Well, when we went inside schools,
we found something completely different.

On most days, most teachers
were actually inside schools.

And when you spoke with them,

you realized they were perfectly capable
of teaching elementary classes.

But they were not teaching.

I went to a school

where the teachers were getting
the construction of a classroom

and a toilet supervised.

I went to another school

where two of the teachers
had gone to a nearby bank branch

to deposit scholarship money
into kids' accounts.

At lunchtime, most teachers
were spending all of their time

getting the midday meal cooking,
supervised and served to the students.

So we asked the teachers,

“What’s going on,
why are you not teaching?”

And they said, “This is
what’s expected of us.

When a supervisor comes to visit us,

these are exactly the things
that he checks.

Has the toilet been made,
has the meal been served.

When my principal
goes to a meeting at headquarters,

these are exactly the things
which are discussed.”

You see, what had happened was,
over the last two decades,

India had been fighting the challenge
of access, having enough schools,

and enrollment, bringing children
into the schools.

So the government
launched a whole host of programs

to address these challenges,

and the teachers became
the implicit executors of these programs.

Not explicitly, but implicitly.

And now, what was actually needed
was not to actually train teachers further

or to monitor their attendance

but to tell them
that what is most important

is for them to go back
inside classrooms and teach.

They needed to be monitored
and measured and awarded

on the quality of teaching

and not on all sorts of other things.

So as we went through
the education system,

as we delved into it deeper,
we found a few such core root causes

which were determining, which were
shaping how people behaved in the system.

And we realized that unless we change
those specific things,

we could do a number of other things.

We could train, we could put
technology into schools,

but the system wouldn’t change.

And addressing these non-obvious
core issues

became a key part of the program.

So, we had the goal and we had the issues,

and now we needed to figure out
what the solutions were.

We obviously did not want
to recreate the wheel,

so we said, “Let’s look around
and see what we can find.”

And we found these beautiful,
small pilot experiments

all over the country
and all over the world.

Small things being done by NGOs,
being done by foundations.

But what was also interesting
was that none of them actually scaled.

All of them were limited
to 50, 100 or 500 schools.

And here, we were looking
for a solution for 15,000 schools.

So we looked into why,

if these things actually work,
why don’t they actually scale?

What happens is that
when a typical NGO comes in,

they not only bring in their expertise

but they also bring in
additional resources.

So they might bring in money,

they might bring in people,

they might bring in technology.

And in the 50 or 100 schools
that they actually operate in,

those additional resources
actually create a difference.

But now imagine that the head of this NGO

goes to the head
of the School Education Department

and says, “Hey, now let’s do this
for 15,000 schools.”

Where is that guy or girl
going to find the money

to actually scale this up
to 15,000 schools?

He doesn’t have the additional money,

he doesn’t have the resources.

And hence, innovations don’t scale.

So right at the beginning
of the project, what we said was,

“Whatever we have to do
has to be scalable,

it has to work in all 15,000 schools.”

And hence, it has to work
within the existing budgets

and resources that the state actually has.

Much easier said than done.

(Laughter)

I think this was definitely
the point in time

when my team hated me.

We spent a lot of long hours
in office, in cafés,

sometimes even in bars,

scratching out heads and saying,

“Where are the solutions,
how are we going to solve this problem?”

In the end, I think we did
find solutions to many of the issues.

I’ll give you an example.

In the context of effective learning,

one of the things people talk about
is hands-on learning.

Children shouldn’t memorize
things from books,

they should do activities,

and that’s a more effective way to learn.

Which basically means
giving students things

like beads, learning rods, abacuses.

But we did not have
the budgets to give that

to 15,000 schools, 2 million children.

We needed another solution.

We couldn’t think of anything.

One day, one of our team members
went to a school

and saw a teacher pick up sticks
and stones from the garden outside

and take them into the classroom

and give them to the students.

That was a huge eureka moment for us.

So what happens now
in the textbooks in Haryana

is that after every concept,
we have a little box

which are instructions
for the teachers which say,

“To teach this concept,
here’s an activity that you can do.

And by the way, in order
to actually do this activity,

here are things that you can use
from your immediate environment,

whether it be the garden outside
or the classroom inside,

which can be used
as learning aids for kids.”

And we see teachers all over Haryana

using lots of innovative things
to be able to teach students.

So in this way, whatever we designed,

we were actually able to implement it

across all 15,000 schools from day one.

Now, this brings me to my last point.

How do you implement something
across 15,000 schools

and 100,000 teachers?

The department used to have a process

which is very interesting.

I like to call it “The Chain of Hope.”

They would write a letter
from the headquarters

and send it to the next level,

which was the district offices.

They would hope that in each
of these district offices,

an officer would get the letter,
would open it, read it

and then forward it to the next level,

which was the block offices.

And then you would hope
that at the block office,

somebody else got the letter,

opened it, read it and forwarded it
eventually to the 15,000 principals.

And then one would hope
that the principals

got the letter, received it,
understood it

and started implementing it.

It was a little bit ridiculous.

Now, we knew technology was the answer,

but we also knew
that most of these schools

don’t have a computer or email.

However, what the teachers do have
are smartphones.

They’re constantly on SMS,
on Facebook and on WhatsApp.

So what now happens in Haryana is,

all principals and teachers are divided
into hundreds of WhatsApp groups

and anytime something needs
to be communicated,

it’s just posted across
all WhatsApp groups.

It spreads like wildfire.

You can immediately check
who has received it,

who has read it.

Teachers can ask clarification
questions instantaneously.

And what’s interesting is,

it’s not just the headquarters
who are answering these questions.

Another teacher from
a completely different part of the state

will stand up and answer the question.

Everybody’s acting
as everybody’s peer group,

and things are getting implemented.

So today, when you go
to a school in Haryana,

things look different.

The teachers are back inside classrooms,

they’re teaching.

Often with innovative techniques.

When a supervisor
comes to visit the classroom,

he or she not only checks
the construction of the toilet

but also what is the quality of teaching.

Once a quarter,
all students across the state

are assessed on their learning outcomes

and schools which are
doing well are rewarded.

And schools which are not doing so well

find themselves having
difficult conversations.

Of course, they also get
additional support

to be able to do better in the future.

In the context of education,

it’s very difficult
to see results quickly.

When people talk about systemic,
large-scale change,

they talk about periods
of 7 years and 10 years.

But not in Haryana.

In the last one year, there have been
three independent studies,

all measuring student learning outcomes,

which indicate that something fundamental,

something unique is happening in Haryana.

Learning levels of children
have stopped declining,

and they have started going up.

Haryana is one of the few
states in the country

which is showing an improvement,

and certainly the one that is showing
the fastest rate of improvement.

These are still early signs,

there’s a long way to go,

but this gives us a lot of hope
for the future.

I recently went to a school,

and as I was leaving,

I ran into a lady,

her name was Parvati,

she was the mother of a child,

and she was smiling.

And I said, “Why are you smiling,
what’s going on?”

And she said, “I don’t know
what’s going on,

but what I do know
is that my children are learning,

they’re having fun,

and for the time being, I’ll stop
my search for a private school

to send them to.”

So I go back to where I started:

Can government systems transform?

I certainly believe so.

I think if you give them the right levers,

they can move mountains.

Thank you.

(Applause)

所以我们都有自己的偏见。

例如,我们中的一些人

倾向于认为改造
失败的政府系统非常困难。

当我们想到政府系统时,

我们倾向于认为它们是陈旧的
、以自己的方式设置的

,也许领导
层过于官僚

而无法改变事情。

好吧,今天,我
想挑战那个理论。

我想给大家
讲一个非常庞大的政府体制的故事

,它不仅
走上了改革的道路,

而且

在不到三年的时间里,还取得了相当可观的成果。

这就是
印度公立学校教室的样子。

印度有 100 万所这样的学校。

甚至对于
一生都住在印度的我来说,

走进其中一所学校
也是相当令人心碎的。

到孩子 11 岁时,其中

50% 的人
在教育方面已经远远落后,

以至于他们没有恢复的希望。

11岁的孩子不能做简单的加法,

他们不能构造
一个语法正确的句子。

这些是你我
都希望一个 8 岁的孩子

能够做到的事情。

到孩子 13 或 14 岁时,

他们往往会辍学。

在印度,公立学校
不仅提供免费教育——

它们还提供免费教科书、
免费练习册、免费膳食,

有时甚至提供现金奖学金。

然而,今天有 40% 的父母

选择让他们的孩子
离开公立学校,


自掏腰包让他们进入私立学校。

相比之下,
在更富裕的国家美国,

这个数字只有 10%。

这是关于
印度公共教育系统有多崩溃的一个重要声明。

因此,正是在这样的背景下
,我在 2013 年夏天接到了一位名叫

Surina Rajan 的绝妙女士的
电话。

当时,她是印度哈里亚纳邦
学校教育部的负责人

所以她对我们说:“看,我在过去两年一直在
领导这个

部门。

我尝试了很多东西
,但似乎没有任何效果。

你能帮忙吗?”

让我
向你描述一下哈里亚纳邦。

哈里亚纳邦是一个
拥有 3000 万人口的州。

它有 15,000 所公立学校


这些公立学校的 200 万多名儿童。

所以基本上,通过那个电话,

我承诺帮助一个

像秘鲁或加拿大一样大的国家和系统进行
自我改造。

当我开始这个项目时,
我非常痛苦地意识到两件事。

一,我以前从未做过这样的
事情。

还有两个,许多其他人有,
也许没有太大的成功。

当我和我的同事
环顾全国

和世界各地时,

我们找不到另一个

可以
在哈里亚纳邦学习和复制的例子。

我们知道我们必须制定
自己的旅程。

但无论如何,我们直接跳了进去
,当我们跳进去的时候,

各种各样的想法开始向我们飞来。

人们说,“让我们改变
招聘教师的方式,

让我们聘请新校长并培训他们

,让他们参加国际
学习之旅,

让我们将技术融入课堂。”

到第一周结束时,
我们有 50 个想法摆在桌面上,

都很棒,听起来都不错。

我们不可能实现 50 件事情。

所以我说,“等一下,停下来。

让我们首先至少决定
我们要达到的目标是什么。”

因此,通过大量的推拉和辩论,

哈里亚纳邦为自己设定了一个
目标:到 2020 年,

我们希望 80% 的孩子
达到年级水平的知识水平。

现在,目标的具体细节在
这里并不重要

,重要的
是目标的具体程度。

因为它真的让我们
能够接受所有

被抛给我们的想法,

并说出
我们将要实施的那些想法。

这个想法是否支持这个目标?
如果是,让我们保留它。

但如果它没有或我们不确定,
那么让我们把它放在一边。

听起来
很简单,预先设定一个非常具体的目标

确实让我们在转型过程中变得
非常敏锐和专注

回顾
过去两年半,

这对我们来说是一个巨大的积极因素。

所以我们有了目标

,现在我们需要弄清楚
什么是问题,什么是坏的。

在我们上学之前
,很多人告诉我们

,教育质量很差,

因为老师要么懒惰,
不来学校,

要么没有能力
,实际上不知道怎么教。

好吧,当我们走进学校时,
我们发现了一些完全不同的东西。

在大多数日子里,大多数
老师实际上都在学校里。

当你与他们交谈时,

你意识到他们完全有
能力教授小学课程。

但他们不是在教书。

我去了一所学校

,那里的老师
正在监督建造教室

和厕所。

我去了另一所学校

,那里的两位
老师去附近的银行分行

将奖学金
存入孩子们的账户。

在午餐时间,大多数老师
都把所有的时间都花在了

做饭、
监督和为学生服务上。

所以我们问老师,

“怎么回事,
你为什么不教?”

他们说:“这是
对我们的期望。

当一个主管来拜访我们时,

这些
正是他检查的东西。

厕所是否做好了
,饭菜是否已经送达。

当我的校长
去总部开会时 ,

这些正是
正在讨论的事情。”

你看,发生的事情是,
在过去的二十年里,

印度一直在与入学挑战
作斗争,拥有足够的学校

和入学率,让孩子们
进入学校。

因此,政府
推出了一系列项目

来应对这些挑战,

而教师成为
这些项目的隐性执行者。

不是显式的,而是隐式的。

而现在,真正需要
的不是进一步培训教师

或监控他们的出勤率,

而是告诉他们
,最重要的

是让他们回到
教室里教书。

他们需要

根据教学质量

而不是其他各种事情进行监控、衡量和奖励。

因此,当我们
浏览教育系统时,

随着我们深入研究,
我们发现了一些这样的核心根本原因

,它们是决定性的,它们正在
塑造人们在系统中的行为方式。

我们意识到,除非我们改变
这些具体的事情,否则

我们可以做很多其他的事情。

我们可以培训,可以将
技术应用到学校,

但系统不会改变。

解决这些不明显的
核心问题

成为该计划的关键部分。

所以,我们有目标,也有问题

,现在我们需要
弄清楚解决方案是什么。

我们显然不想
重新创建轮子,

所以我们说,“让我们环顾四周
,看看我们能找到什么。”

我们在全国和世界各地发现了这些漂亮的
小型试点实验

非政府组织做的小事
,基金会做的事。

但同样有趣的
是,它们都没有真正按比例缩放。

所有这些都仅限
于 50、100 或 500 所学校。

在这里,我们正在
为 15,000 所学校寻找解决方案。

所以我们研究了为什么,

如果这些东西真的有效,
为什么它们不能真正扩展?

发生的情况是,
当一个典型的非政府组织进来时,

他们不仅带来了他们的专业知识,

而且还带来了
额外的资源。

所以他们可能会带来钱,

他们可能会带来人,

他们可能会带来技术。

在他们实际运营的 50 或 100 所学校
中,

这些额外的资源
实际上会产生差异。

但现在想象一下,这个非政府组织的负责人

去找
学校教育部门的负责人

说:“嘿,现在让我们
为 15,000 所学校做这件事。”

那个男孩或女孩
要从哪里找到

钱来实际将其扩大
到 15,000 所学校?

他没有额外的钱,

他没有资源。

因此,创新不会规模化。

所以在
项目开始时,我们说的是,

“无论我们要做的事情
是可扩展的,

它都必须在所有 15,000 所学校中发挥作用。”

因此,它必须

在国家实际拥有的现有预算和资源范围内运作。

说起来容易做起来难。

(笑声)

我认为这
绝对是

我的团队讨厌我的时间点。

我们
在办公室、咖啡馆、

有时甚至在酒吧里度过了很长时间,

摸不着头脑说:

“解决方案在哪里,
我们将如何解决这个问题?”

最后,我认为我们确实
找到了许多问题的解决方案。

我给你举个例子。

在有效学习的背景下,

人们谈论的一件事
就是动手学习。

孩子不应该
死记硬背书本,

他们应该做一些活动

,这是一种更有效的学习方式。

这基本上意味着
给学生

诸如珠子、学习棒、算盘之类的东西。

但是我们没有足够
的预算来

为 15,000 所学校和 200 万儿童提供资金。

我们需要另一个解决方案。

我们什么都想不出来。

有一天,我们的一个队员
去一所学校

,看到一位老师
从外面的花园里捡起木棍和石头,

带到教室

里交给学生。

这对我们来说是一个巨大的灵感时刻。

所以现在哈里亚纳邦教科书中发生的情况

是,在每个概念之后,
我们都有一个小盒子

,是
给老师的说明,上面写着:

“要教授这个概念
,你可以做一个活动

。顺便说一下,为了
要真正进行这项活动,

这里有一些你可以
从你的直接环境中使用的东西,

无论是外面的花园
还是里面的教室,

都可以
用作孩子们的学习辅助工具。”

我们看到整个哈里亚纳邦的老师都在

使用许多创新的东西
来教学生。

因此,通过这种方式,无论我们设计什么,

我们实际上都能够

从第一天开始在所有 15,000 所学校实施。

现在,这将我带到我的最后一点。

您如何
在 15,000 所学校

和 100,000 名教师中实施某些东西?

该部门曾经有一个

非常有趣的流程。

我喜欢称它为“希望之链”。

他们会
从总部写一封信,

然后将其发送到下一级,

即地区办事处。

他们希望在
这些地区办事处的每一个中,

一名官员都会收到这封信
,打开它,阅读它

,然后将其转发到下一层,

即街区办事处。

然后你会
希望在街区办公室,

其他人收到这封信,

打开它,阅读它并
最终将它转发给 15,000 名校长。

然后人们会
希望校长

们收到这封信,收到它,
理解它

并开始实施它。

这有点荒谬。

现在,我们知道技术就是答案,

但我们也知道
这些学校中的大多数

都没有电脑或电子邮件。

然而,老师们拥有的
是智能手机。

他们经常使用 SMS
、Facebook 和 WhatsApp。

所以现在在哈里亚纳邦发生的事情是,

所有校长和教师都被
分成数百个 WhatsApp 小组

,任何时候
需要交流的东西,

都会发布到
所有 WhatsApp 小组中。

它像野火一样蔓延。

您可以立即查看
谁收到了它,

谁已经阅读了它。

教师可以立即提出澄清
问题。

有趣的是,回答这些

问题的不只是总部

来自该州完全不同地区的另一位老师

将站起来回答这个问题。

每个人都扮演
着每个人的同龄人群体

,事情正在实施。

所以今天,当你
去哈里亚纳邦的一所学校时,

情况看起来不一样了。

老师们回到教室里,

他们正在教书。

通常采用创新技术。

主管
来教室参观时,

不仅要检查
厕所的建设情况,

还要检查教学质量。

每季度一次,对
全州所有学生

的学习成果进行评估,

表现良好的学校将获得奖励。

表现不佳的学校

发现自己的
对话很困难。

当然,他们也会得到
额外的支持

,以便在未来做得更好。

在教育的背景下,

很难很快看到结果。

当人们谈论系统性、
大规模的变化时,

他们谈论的
是 7 年和 10 年的时期。

但不是在哈里亚纳邦。

在过去的一年里,有
三项独立的研究

都在衡量学生的学习成果,

这表明哈里亚纳邦正在发生一些基本的、

独特的事情。

孩子
们的学习水平已经停止下降,

并且开始上升。

哈里亚纳邦是

国为数不多的表现出改善

的州之一,当然也是表现
出最快改善速度的州之一。

这些仍是早期迹象,

还有很长的路要走,

但这让我们
对未来充满希望。

我最近去了一所学校

,在我离开的时候,

我遇到了一位女士,

她的名字叫帕尔瓦蒂,

她是一个孩子的母亲

,她微笑着。

我说,“你为什么笑,
发生了什么事?”

她说:“我不知道
发生了什么事,

但我
知道我的孩子们正在学习,

他们玩得很开心,

而且暂时我会停止
寻找私立学校

送 他们去。”

所以我回到我开始的地方:

政府系统可以转变吗?

我当然相信。

我认为如果你给他们正确的杠杆,

他们可以移山。

谢谢你。

(掌声)