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hello

good afternoon wherever you are in your

comfortable spot of choice

whether you're in pajama or whether

you're in proper clothes

whether you've showered or not we shall

not judge my name is amanda with bermono

and i am still in school

i started my life in school as a

kindergarten i was three years old like

most of we all when we started

and then we moved up the lender right

like from primary school middle school

and high school

and then come college when i chose to

major in education

little did i know that i would not

actually graduate

why because i keep coming back to school

to this day

as part of my career i have been working

in education since i graduated

and right now i'm working with teachers

specifically in their capacity

development for

over five years now see being an

education major you carry that with you

right to dinner parties to family

gatherings

they would ask what did you study in

school or

what is your job what do you do on the

day time

you carry that with you and when they

know that you're in education

they start just drawing all these

comments and i realize

everyone has very strong opinions about

schools

their opinions would firstly revolve

around curriculums

it's not practical enough the things

that i learned in school it is not

benefiting me as an adult

they should teach abc they should teach

this this this

it's not practical i didn't learn

anything school should teach about this

about that

right they are very fiery and

opinionated about it

and the second thing that they usually

say is about the teachers

as an indonesian teachers what do you

think about our teachers comparing them

to singapore teachers

to american teachers to other countries

teachers

how are they our teachers are not strong

enough right

they are not good enough right so people

would always have all these comments

see i may be biased but the more i work

with teachers the more i see that

teaching is not a job where you just put

your skills

you put your hearts and when you have

invested your time for

five years ten years there you become

very good and skillful in it

you might not have the skills you might

not have the capacity development that

the system should give you but at the

very least

teachers have their heart at the right

place but coming back there

people are always very opinionated about

what schooling should look like

as if me right then right there could

actually do something to change the

curriculum

to change how schooling should look like

and then as a decent adult you sit and

you reflect right

why is that so why are people so

opinionated about that

see when you're lucky and i assume most

of us are who are sitting behind this

screen

watching tedx itb you have spent

more than a decade of your life sitting

in school

you know what schools look like you know

that a classroom would consist of a

white board of a chalkboard

and then off the seating arrangement

that looks exactly like that

you know that one adult called teachers

come into the classroom

what would he or she do where he or she

would navigate themselves

in the learning in the teaching time you

know what is happening through the day

you know what happens at 7am when the

bell rings you know what it means

you know when recess comes you are

allowed to go out

from the classroom to actually do

something and being human

with that experience you pick what is

wrong you pick what is not right

right oh i went to a school that's too

homogenous but then your classmate will

say oh i went to a school that is too

open-minded

or you went to a very strict school and

then you say oh my school is very

disciplined

and then your classmate would say oh my

school is very open-minded

about the rules see everyone has a has

an opinion

of how it can be better why

because it's a universal experience it's

so universal

that everybody can relate to and they

feel strongly for

the more i talk to people the more i see

that

aside from being universal the schooling

experience is also unchosen

we don't choose our first experience of

schooling see who here

picked their primary school please raise

your hand because as a five-year-old as

a six-year-old

you didn't understand what good

education means

i want to go to this school because the

building is better i want to go to that

school because

the teachers seem nicer no most likely

our parents our grandparents our

caretakers they are the ones who make

this impressive first

decision and conversation with parents

through

my time in schools i usually ask why did

you send your kids here why did you send

your kids there

their reasons mostly have nothing to do

with education

it's logic it's distance oh because the

school is right in front of my house

oh because the school is next to the

elder sibling school

right but this decision it makes you sit

in that uniform for

at least six years you follow the rules

you follow whatever the adult called

teacher tells you to do

all the homework that you're supposed to

do but why

why right what were your reasons if we

asked

kids nowadays or when i was teaching i

asked them why

are you here why do you go to school no

obviously they are still

very young and they don't know all they

told me was that

oh i just have to go to school you just

have to but why

there's there's no reason no logic

behind that or another reasons that they

are told is schools will make you smart

also how why is it because of the

homework that you were doing

is it because of the exams that you were

taking or is it because of the people

that you were meeting

why is going to this specific building

five days a week for more than four

hours would actually make you smarter

see if we're lucky we are conscious

about what we are doing in that time

in that primary schooling but then if

we're not probably we only realize that

in middle school

or high school or sometimes in

university

and it's all right and everyone will

have an opinion because

get this education is never neutral

our country has been independent for 75

years

right and the curriculum has changed

more than ten times

why because indonesia is cherishing an

ideology called

pancha sila panchatila is very much

secured there and wants to be nurtured

into this young citizens so that they

grow up and they can

guard it with all their hearts too

hajir dewantara

as he was fighting for the country's

independence he came up with this idea

of taman siswa

and then he talked about this idea with

maria montessori whose name we also

might be familiar with and then he's

advocating play

in learning but he's also nurturing

nationalism

and the identity of being indonesian

there education is never neutral

my first class in university as a future

teacher it's called fundamentals of

thinking

which made me think well my fundamentals

of thinking is different than

my next chair buddy

um fundamental of thinking right is

clearly subjective

to the culture and that is seen as your

first class your first ammunition

your first responsibility as a teacher

and it makes me think as to how my own

culture as an indonesian

as in jakarta culture 2 to be more exact

what is that culture what is that

fundamentals of thinking

and how me as a teacher standing in

front of the classroom

how am i going to impart that to this

little people

who are ready and eager with their

pencil with their paper

listing and writing everything that i'm

saying

get this people go to school for various

reasons

through my travels i meet people in

urban cities right jakarta

bandung surabaya and most of these

people's reasoning to go to school

is economy i want to go to school and

become a doctor so that i can earn a

good livelihood so that i could

provide a roof for my family and bring

food every night every evening for my

family it's economy it makes sense

life is hard and if you are spending

that amount of time off

in school you do want to get some

financial compensation for that

but it's different when i went to visit

um right there the reasoning for people

to go to school

is social status you might go to middle

school high school

go on to university masters phd and then

you become the being

pride and joy of your family it doesn't

matter what you do it doesn't matter how

much money you have in your bank

as long as you go to school that is a

social status see that's different

right it's different again with middle

school kids that i met in kalimantan

where they are in school just waiting to

be married off to their neighbors

to their family friends because that is

the reasoning for them sitting in that

chair

all throughout the day all throughout

the week now with that i invite you to

think

when schooling becomes a chosen

experience as

we are getting older what are your

reasons

what did you get yourself away from the

schooling experience

if we did not know that it's our loss

see our schooling experience was

unchosen but we choose what we make out

of it

we choose what we take away from that

unchosen experience

i'm going to use an example from ibu

cartini who we know is a pioneer in

female education here in indonesia

right if she's around i imagine with her

character

she'd be partying with us in seno party

jakarta

ibukartini got a taste of education

until she was 12 years old

right she got a chance of all exploring

these are some ideas

this is what being learned means this is

what being able to

count feels like this is what being able

to play around frolic around with ideas

feels like and then boom limited

as a japanese girl at the time she had

to stay home

see she can be bitter right and probably

she was we didn't know

we knew the good stories but she chose

to make the better part of it

she chose to not stop learning through

the books that she

continued reading from her brother she

chose to not stop learning from the

letters that she

kept writing to her friends both in

netherlands and also in indonesia beyond

the confinement

of her house we also did a little survey

to friends from itb what did you

actually take away

from your schooling experience all

through grade school grade school means

s day all the way through assam aya

primary through high school

some people said that oh i learned that

great

it's not that important i only realized

it later

so why did you sit on all those tests

why did you study so hard

why did you listen to your teacher

saying oh study study study if

grades are important anyways another

comment said that oh i learned that i

shouldn't take things

seriously because what you learn is not

that important anyways

so what is a good social capital that

you can bring to life

if not the things that you learn in

schools another comment also said oh i

learned about how people dream without

any concrete action plan

see you see all this building that we

can

all have various experience of schooling

it can be unchosen

but also you can make something out of

it we also read comments where people

think oh

again like the one that i just mentioned

how people dream without any concrete

action plans

you can visualize something but then

also you need to come up with

execution steps right what are the next

actionable plans

you also learn about tolerance as you

were meeting

a buddhist friend as you're meeting a

muslim friend you're meeting a catholic

friend

how does it look like how does it feel

like if we all live together

you learn how to deal with different

people too from teachers

to fellow students to canteen ladies you

learn how to navigate those social

dynamics

and for some people who were away since

they were young

they learned about independence they

learn about living on their own

we mold those experience into lessons

through what

through the time that we sit down with

ourselves reflecting

through the time that we sit down with

ourselves making sense of each single

episode that is happening in our life

and seeing what are the path

what is this pattern what is the

similarity what is the difference and

where am i going in this life where am i

supposed where is life leading me

and in that reflection is how our

unchosen schooling experience

in our early years of life was part of

it

that probably you are an advocate for

social justice because you had a teacher

who is very um idealistic

that society is poor is already lost

because of the system for example

or that you are an artist because you

had a teacher who

knew that you had that talent and

actually gave you an opportunity to

develop that

and went to the distance of talking to

your parents your primary school

experience matter

it's how we all look at it see coming

back to that dinner party in the

beginning of this talk

everyone has opinions about schooling

and it can be sometimes pretty

annoying but i choose to see that

everyone is hopeful

everyone is hopeful that schooling could

better serve their lives as adults that

if they learn about empathy

they could better relate to other people

that if they learn about financial

literacy they could avoid that family

bankruptcy

and actually save more for their kids

college funds that if they learn about

emotional regulations they could have a

more fulfilling life

with their family and significant other

i also chose to see those comments

that everyone is hopeful on how the next

generation could benefit further

from schooling that regardless of how

irrelevant the things that you're

learning in school

regardless of how boring it is

regardless of how much money you might

be spending

on schooling that education is still

the key to better livelihood that the

faith is

education is still so massive that they

become so opinionated about it

so that the next generation through

schooling could live a more fulfilling

more wealthy more healthy life and that

opinion that they are throwing

it's their contribution to make

schooling

more better to make schooling more

fulfilling and meaningful

and relevant the schooling experience is

universal

but it was started very much as an

unchosen path for most of us here today

we didn't choose our primary schooling

but at the very least we would walk away

from this talk and seeing the silver

lining being able

to point out that i might get bullet but

i now became a more courageous

individual

i'm able to talk to all kinds of people

scary people kind people

quiet people i'm okay because of that

probably pretty not nice experience of

being bullied

i hope we can all look back and see the

silver lining the optimistic

meaning that we will carry with us and

how we all have

metamorphosized through the ears since

that day when we were carried by our

parents

in that uniform being sat down in that

chair as a first grader

up to now until we're in college until

we're together in this event and

probably later

as you're moving on in your career and

how also looking ahead

we will continue to metamorphosize and

become sharper individuals

and with that tips literally thank you

for coming to my ted talk

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你好，

下午好，无论你在

舒适的选择地点，

无论你穿着睡衣还是

穿着合适的衣服，

无论你是否

洗过澡，我们都不会判断我的名字是 amanda with bermono

，我仍然

在学校我从幼儿园开始我的学校生活

我

和我们大多数人一样，刚开始的时候才三岁

，然后

我们从小学

中学和高中升入贷方

，然后当我选择专业时进入大学

在教育

方面我几乎不知道我

实际上不会毕业

为什么因为我一直回到

学校直到今天

作为我职业生涯的一部分

我毕业后一直从事教育工作

，现在我正在与教师

特别以他们的身份工作

五年多的发展现在看到作为一个

教育专业的你随身携带它

参加晚宴聚会家庭

聚会

他们会问你在

学校学了

什么或你的工作是什么你在t做什么 白天

你随身携带它，当他们

知道你在接受教育时，

他们就开始画所有这些

评论，我意识到

每个人对学校都有非常强烈的意见，

他们的意见首先会

围绕课程展开，

这还不够实用

我的事情 在学校学到的这对

我作为一个成年人没有好处

他们应该教 ABC 他们应该教

这个这个

这不切实际

他们

通常说的老师

是印度尼西亚老师，您如何

看待我们的老师将他们

与新加坡老师

与美国老师与其他国家的

老师进行比较

总是有所有这些评论

看到我可能有偏见，但我

与老师合作的次数越多，我就越发现

教学不是 你只是把

你的技能

投入到你的工作中，当

你投入了

五年十年的时间，你会变得

非常优秀和熟练，

你可能没有技能你可能

没有

系统应该给予的能力发展 你，但至少

老师们的心在正确的

地方，但回到那里，

人们总是对

学校教育

应该是什么

样子非常固执己见 喜欢

然后作为一个体面的成年人，你坐着，

你反思

为什么是这样，为什么人们如此

固执己见，

看看你什么时候幸运，我想

我们大多数人都是坐在屏幕后面

看 tedx itb 你花了

更多的钱 你在学校生活的十年以上

你知道学校是什么样子 你

知道教室将由一块

白板和一块黑板组成

，然后离开座位

看起来完全一样的安排

你知道一个叫老师的成年人

走进教室

他或她会做什么 他或她

会

在教学时间里引导自己的学习 你

知道一天发生了

什么 你知道发生了什么 早上 7 点，当

铃声响起时，你知道这意味着什么 你知道什么

时候下课 你

可以

离开教室去做一些实际的

事情，并且作为

有经验的人 你挑

错了 你挑错了

对了 哦，我去了 一所太同质化的学校，

但你的同学会

说哦，我去了一所思想过于开放的学校，

或者你去了一所非常严格的学校，

然后你说哦，我的学校非常有

纪律

，然后你的同学会说哦，我的

学校

对规则非常开放 看到每个人都

对如何变得更好有自己的看法 为什么

因为这是一种普遍的体验 它是

如此普遍

以至于每个人都可以与之相关并且他们

感到坚强 gly 因为

我与人交谈的越多，我越发现

除了普遍性之外，学校教育

的经历也是未经选择的

• 六岁的时候

你不明白良好的

教育意味着什么

看护人 他们是做出

这个令人印象深刻的第一个

决定并在我上学期间与父母交谈的人

我通常会问

你为什么把你的孩子送到这里 为什么你把

你的孩子送到那里

他们的原因大多

与教育无关

这是逻辑 这是距离 哦，因为

学校就在我家前面

哦，因为学校就在

哥哥姐姐学校

旁边，但是这个决定让你

穿着那件制服

至少六年 你遵守规则

你遵守任何被称为老师的成年人

告诉你做

所有你应该做的家庭作业

但是为什么

为什么对你的理由是什么如果我们现在

问

孩子或者当我教书的时候我

问

他们你为什么 在这里，你为什么要上学，不，

显然他们

还很年轻，他们不知道他们

告诉我的只是，

哦，我只需要上学，你只是

必须上学，但为什么

没有理由

背后没有逻辑或其他 他们

被告知的原因是学校会让你变得聪明，

还有为什么是因为

你正在做的家庭作业

是因为你正在参加的考试

还是

因为你遇到的人

为什么要去这个

每周五天，超过四个

小时的特定建筑实际上会让你更聪明，

看看我们是否幸运，我们

意识到我们在那段时间在小学教育中所做的事情，

但如果

我们没有意识到，我们可能只是

在 中间的

学校或高中或有时在

大学

，没关系，每个人都会

有意见，因为

接受这种教育从来都不是中立的，

我们的国家已经独立了 75

年

了，课程已经改变

了十多次，

为什么因为印度尼西亚珍视

意识形态 被称为

pancha sila panchatila

在那里非常安全，并希望被培养

成这个年轻的公民，这样

他们才能长大，他们也可以

全心全意地保护它 paki hajir

dewantara 在他为国家的独立而战时，

他想出了这个想法

taman siswa

然后他和 maria montessori 谈到了这个想法，

我们也可能熟悉她的名字

，然后他

提倡

在学习中玩耍，但他也在培养

民族主义

和印度尼西亚人的身份，

那里的教育从来都不是中立的

我在大学的第一堂课 一位未来的

老师，它被称为思考的基础，

这让我思考得很好，我的思考

基础 ng 与

我的下一任主席不同，

嗯，正确思考的基础显然

是受文化的主观影响，这被视为您的

第一堂课，您的第一个弹药，

您作为教师的首要责任

，这让我思考我自己

作为印度尼西亚人的文化如何

就像在雅加达文化 2 中一样，更确切地说

，那种文化是什么

，思考的基本原理是

什么，作为一名

站在教室前的老师，

我将如何将这些传授

给这些准备好并渴望用

铅笔的小人物 他们的论文

列出并写下我

所说的一切

让这些人因为各种原因上学

通过我的旅行我在

雅加达

万隆泗水的城市遇到了人们这些

人上学的大部分理由

是经济我想去 上学，

当医生，这样我就能过上好日子，

这样我就可

以为我的家人提供一个屋顶，

每晚每天晚上为我的家人带来食物。

经济，这是有道理

的 地位 你可能会读初中

高中 读大学硕士 博士 然后

你会成为

你家人的骄傲和快乐

不管你做什么 不管

你银行里有多少钱

当您上学时，这是一种

社会地位，

这与

我在加里曼丹遇到的中学生再次不同

他们一整天都坐在那

把椅子上

整个星期现在我邀请你

思考

当我们变老时学校教育成为一种选择的

经历

你的

原因

是什么

如果我们不知道这是我们的损失，你会让自己远离上学经历

看到我们的上学经历是

未经选择的，但我们选择我们

从中获得的东西

我们选择我们从这种

未经选择的经历

中带走的东西 来自 ibu

cartini，我们知道她是

印度尼西亚女性教育的先驱，

如果她在我身边，我想以她的

性格，

她会在雅加达 seno 派对上和我们一起聚会

ibukartini 直到她 12 岁才尝到教育的滋味，

对吧，她得到了 有机会探索

这些都是一些想法

这是正在学习的意思这

就是能够

数数的感觉这就是

能够玩弄想法的

感觉然后作为日本女孩当时的繁荣受到限制

不得不待在家里，

看看她可能会很痛苦，可能

她是我们不知道

我们知道好故事，但她选择

了更好的部分，

她选择不停止

通过书本学习 在她

继续阅读她哥哥的书时，她

选择不停地从

她一直写给

荷兰和印度尼西亚朋友的信中学习，除了

她的房子之外，我们还对

来自 itb 的朋友做了一个小调查，你

实际上是什么 整个小学

都从你的学习经历中消失

小学意味着

s day 一直到 assam aya

小学到高中

有人说哦，我学到了

很好，

这没那么重要，我后来才意识到

，

所以你为什么坐在所有 那些考试

为什么你学习这么

努力为什么你听老师

说哦学习学习学习如果

成绩很重要无论如何另一个

评论说哦我知道我

不应该

认真对待事情因为无论如何你所学的并不

那么重要

所以

如果不是你在学校学到的东西，你可以

带来什么样的社会资本？ 梦想没有

任何具体的行动计划

看到你看到所有这栋建筑，我们

都可以

有各种上学的经验

它可以不选择，

但你也可以从中做出一些

事情我们还阅读

了人们认为哦，就像我刚才提到的那样的评论

人们如何在没有任何具体行动计划的情况下做梦

你可以想象一些事情，但

你还需要提出

正确的执行步骤 下一个

可行的计划是什么

你还可以了解宽容 当你

与佛教朋友会面时 当你与

穆斯林朋友会面时 你会见一位天主教

朋友，你

会如何

看待如果我们都住在一起，

你会如何与不同的人打交道，

从老师

到同学，再到食堂的女士，你会

学习如何驾驭这些社会

动态

，对于某些人来说 从小就离开的人

他们学会了独立

他们学会了独立生活

我们将这些经历塑造成课程

在

我们与自己坐下来的那段时间里，在我们与自己一起坐下来的那段时间里，通过我们与

自己

坐下来的时间，理解

我们生活中发生的每一件事，

并了解路径

是什么，这种模式是什么，相似之处是什么，有

什么不同

我这一生将走向何方 我

认为生活将引领我

走向何方，在这种反思中，我们

早年未经选择的学校教育经历

是其中的一部分，

你

可能是社会正义的倡导者，

因为你有一个

非常理想主义

认为社会贫穷的老师已经

因为制度而迷失了，

或者你是一名艺术家，因为你

有一位老师

知道你有这种才能，

实际上给了你

发展这种才能的机会，

然后去了 与父母交谈的距离

你的小学

经历很重要

这就是我们所有人的看法 看看

在这次谈话开始时回到那个晚宴

大家哈 对学校教育的看法，

有时可能会很

烦人，但我选择看到

每个人都充满希望

每个人都希望学校教育可以

更好地服务于他们作为成年人的生活

如果他们了解同理心，

他们可以更好地与其他人相处

，如果他们了解 金融

知识，他们可以避免家庭

破产

，实际上为他们的孩子节省更多的

大学资金，如果他们了解

情绪调节，他们可以与家人和重要的其他人过上

更充实的生活

我也选择看到

那些每个人都希望如何处理的评论

下一代可以

从学校教育中进一步受益，无论

你在学校学习的东西多么无关紧要，

无论它多么无聊，

无论你

在学校教育上花多少钱，教育仍然

是改善生活的关键

信仰是

教育仍然如此庞大，以至于

他们变得如此固执己见，

以至于 他的下一代通过

学校教育可以过上更充实、

更富裕、更健康的生活

，他们认为

这是他们的贡献，使

学校教育

变得更好，使学校教育更

充实、更有意义

和相关。学校教育经历是

普遍的，

但它是非常开始的

对于今天在座的大多数人来说，这是一条未经选择的道路，

我们没有选择我们的小学教育，

但至少我们会

离开这个谈话，看到一线希望

能够指出我可能会中弹，但

我现在成了 更勇敢的

人

我可以和各种各样的人

交谈 我们将随身携带，以及

自从

我们被

父母

穿着那件制服的那一天起，我们都如何通过耳朵变形 到现在为止，

作为一年级学生坐在那把椅子

上，直到我们上大学，直到

我们一起参加这次活动，并且

可能稍后

当你在你的职业生涯中继续

前进以及展望未来，

我们将如何继续变形并

成为 更聪明的人，

并有了这些提示，真的感谢你

来参加我的 ted 演讲