Mads TangChristensen The brain science of obesity TED

Transcriber:

Have you ever wondered
why a pair of siblings

living in the same house
with the same parents,

with the same food,

sometimes end up in opposite sides
of the weight spectrum?

My name is Mads

and for the last 25 years,

I’ve been studying what we eat,
when we eat and how much we eat.

And probably more importantly,

I’ve been studying
how each of our unique bodies

responds differently to the same food
and the same environment.

To be more precise, I study obesity.

During my training as an MD, PhD,

I was very fascinated by a series
of experiments done by Barry Levin.

He took 100 rats and subjected
them to high-fat feeding.

After months of feeding,

he ended up with a bell-shaped curve

and a weight distribution

with some skinny rats and some obese rats

and some in the middle.

What he then did
was to take the skinny rats

and breed them among themselves,

and the heavy rats.

And he bred those among themselves.

And after rounds of breeding,
he ended up with two distinct populations:

a diet-resistant rat

and an obesity-prone rat.

And here’s the really interesting part.

Then he took the skinny or the obese,

and either massively
over- or underfed them.

And their weight would,
of course, go up and down

depending on the dietary regimen.

But it was as if the little bodies would
remember the same old weight trajectory.

So once the dietary regimen was stopped,

the rats went right back
to the initial weight trajectory.

It was like as if you could
dress up the obese rat

in a skinny sheep’s clothing.

But the obese rat nature
was still scratching to get out.

The same thing applies to humans.

If you take a thousand kids
and weigh them,

their weight will also be distributed
in a bell-shaped curve.

Some skinny, some in the middle
and some heavy.

We know that some of the skinny kids
will remain skinny throughout life,

and some of the obese kids
will stay obese throughout life.

You could argue that their weight,
to some degree, has been predetermined.

You could also argue
that obesity is a disease.

Wait, did I just say
that obesity a disease?

Yes.

There’s actually data
and science that shows that.

And I’ve made it my audacious life goal
to come up with a solution

to prevent, treat or even cure obesity.

Let me explain.

In the early 1980s and 1990s,

obesity was considered
a potential global problem,

a global problem of a magnitude

that led WHO in the end of 1990s

to declare obesity a global pandemic.

And I probably don’t have to tell you why.

Higher rates of diabetes, hypertension,
cardiovascular disease, even some cancers,

osteoarthritis and a clear link
to mental conditions such as depression.

So as the number
of obese individuals grew,

so did the number of people
suffering from these diseases.

Today, more than 50 percent
of the US adult population

are living with obesity or overweight.

From a health perspective,
that is devastating.

But it’s not only a US problem.

The obesity surge has made obesity
a global health problem.

Many inside and outside
the medical community

believe obesity is not a disease.

They believe that obesity is a condition,

a condition brought about
by too much eating

and too little exercise.

As a matter of fact, a lot of people
living with obesity think that too.

They believe that their weight
is 100 percent their own fault,

which can lead to self-blame
and low self-esteem,

and perhaps even shame or stress eating,

which is both heartbreaking,
as well as counterproductive.

But where is the scientific proof
that obesity is a disease?

Well, medically speaking,
there’s many ways to define disease,

but let me give you just three examples.

As a process that impairs
your functionality

and reduces life expectancy
– obesity, check.

You can define disease as a process

that leaves you more susceptible
to other diseases or causes disease.

Obesity, check.

Or you can define disease
as a genetic impairment

that leads to functional impairment,

like, for instance,
a duplication of genes on chromosomes.

There is clear evidence

that a single gene mutation
can lead to obesity,

such as, for instance,
leptin deficiency and POMC deficiency.

We also have two-three genes
leading to obesity.

And it’s my prediction that we,
by the year 2030,

will be able to explain most obesity
by the genetic makeup of the individual.

So obesity as a disease
by this measure, check.

Let me be clear.

We humans have had
the same genes for decades.

And just recently,
obesity has become a bigger problem.

How do we then explain that?

One obvious thing is actually food,
especially calorie-rich food,

which is much more readily available.

It’s relatively easy
and also relatively cheap

to eat your entire daily need of calories
by a fast food or big soft drinks.

So genes do play a role,

but the environment
also plays a huge role.

The overabundance of calories
in certain communities

is a relatively new thing,

and our genes haven’t quite adapted yet.

In the history of feast and famine,

genetic selection has prepared us
much better for famine,

and for good reason.

Starvation is bad,

but you could also argue obesity is bad.

And if obesity is a disease,

how do we then prevent,
treat or even cure it?

I believe that the brain holds the key.

I have always been fascinated

with how small electrical signals
in discrete parts of the brain

lead to big behavioral changes.

And my study of the brain
led me to Glucagon-Like Peptide 1,

or GLP-1 for short.

GLP-1 is a hormone and a signal molecule

that is produced
both in the gut and in the brain.

The brain speaks to the gut
and the gut speaks to the brain.

Yes, that’s right.

Your belly and your brain
are literally connected.

Our research led us to see
that GLP-1 has an effect on nerve cells

sitting in areas that control
whether we eat or not.

So, for instance,
if we increase the level of GLP-1,

the body’s desire to eat
or overeat food gets turned off.

GLP-1 serves as the full signal
in your car’s gas tank.

I’ve spent years and decades
mapping the circuitry of GLP-1

and how GLP-1 interacts
with other signal molecules and hormones.

All of these things go together
and control food intake,

body weight and the control
of eating behavior.

And what does that all mean?

Well, today, we have engineered
and studied the molecule,

so we now have a molecule

that can lead to
a significant weight loss.

Obviously, GLP-1 is not the whole answer.

We and others have discovered
numerous hormones

and other signal molecules

that are also pivotal for the regulation
of food intake and body weight.

And it may end up

that these signal molecules and hormones
are even more important than GLP-1.

So …

There’s plenty for us to do.

There’s still plenty for us to explore.

So this is not the end.

It’s not even the beginning to the end.

But perhaps this may be
the end to the beginning.

We may have a massive weight crisis
on the planet today,

but the good news is
we are on the right path.

We now have solutions
for people living with obesity,

and the next steps will be
to understand even better

the problems people
living with obesity are facing.

To understand even better
how genes and environment play together.

And understand, finally,
how all these things come together

and determine our body weight.

Then, and maybe just then,

we will be able
to come up with a prevention,

a treatment or even a cure

for people living with obesity,

like we strive for
with any other chronic disease.

And this – this still remains
our audacious life’s goal.

Thank you.

抄写员:

你有没有想过
为什么一对兄弟姐妹

住在同一所房子
里,父母

一样,吃一样的食物,

有时会
在体重范围的对立面结束?

我叫 Mads

,在过去的 25 年里,

我一直在研究我们吃什么、
什么时候吃以及吃多少。

也许更重要的是,

我一直在研究
我们每个独特的身体

如何对相同的食物
和相同的环境做出不同的反应。

更准确地说,我研究肥胖。

在接受医学博士培训期间,

我对
Barry Levin 所做的一系列实验非常着迷。

他带走了 100 只老鼠,让
它们接受高脂肪喂养。

经过几个月的喂养,

他最终得到了钟形曲线

和体重分布

,一些瘦老鼠和一些肥胖老鼠

,还有一些在中间。

然后他所做的
就是把瘦的老鼠

和它们之间的繁殖,

以及沉重的老鼠。

他在他们之间培育了这些人。

经过几轮的繁殖,
他最终得到了两个不同的种群:

一种抗饮食的老鼠

和一种容易肥胖的老鼠。

这是真正有趣的部分。

然后,他选择了瘦或肥胖的人

,要么严重
过量,要么营养不足。

当然,他们的体重会

根据饮食方案上下波动。

但就好像小身体会
记住同样的旧体重轨迹。

因此,一旦停止饮食方案

,老鼠就会立即
回到最初的体重轨迹。

就好像你可以
给肥胖

的老鼠穿上瘦羊皮一样。

但肥胖的老鼠
天性仍然抓挠着要出去。

同样的事情也适用于人类。

如果你拿一千个
孩子称重,

他们的体重也会
呈钟形曲线分布。

有的瘦,有的中等
,有的重。

我们知道,有些瘦的孩子
终生会保持瘦

,有些肥胖的孩子
会终生保持肥胖。

你可以争辩说,它们的重量
在某种程度上是预先确定的。

你也可以
说肥胖是一种疾病。

等等,我刚才
说肥胖是一种疾病吗?

是的。

实际上有数据
和科学证明了这一点。

我已将

提出预防、治疗甚至治愈肥胖症的解决方案作为我大胆的人生目标。

让我解释。

在 1980 年代初和 1990 年代初期,

肥胖被认为
是一个潜在的全球性问题,

这一全球性

问题导致世卫组织在 1990 年代

末宣布肥胖成为全球流行病。

我可能不必告诉你为什么。

糖尿病、高血压、
心血管疾病,甚至某些癌症、

骨关节炎的发病率更高,并且
与抑郁症等精神疾病有明显联系。

因此,随着
肥胖人数的增加,

患有这些疾病的人数也在增加。

今天,超过 50%
的美国

成年人患有肥胖或超重。

从健康的角度来看,
这是毁灭性的。

但这不仅仅是美国的问题。

肥胖症的激增使肥胖症
成为一个全球性的健康问题。 医学界

内外的许多人

认为肥胖不是一种疾病。

他们认为肥胖是一种状态,

一种
由吃得

太多而运动太少所带来的状态。

事实上,很多
肥胖的人也这么认为。

他们认为自己的
体重 100% 是他们自己的错,

这会导致自责
和自卑,

甚至可能导致羞耻或压力饮食,

这既令人心碎,
又适得其反。

但是,肥胖是一种疾病的科学证据在哪里

好吧,从医学上讲,
有很多方法可以定义疾病,

但我只举三个例子。

作为一个损害
您的功能

并缩短预期寿命的过程

  • 肥胖,请检查。

您可以将疾病定义为

使您更容易感染
其他疾病或导致疾病的过程。

肥胖,检查。

或者,您可以将疾病定义
为导致功能障碍的遗传损伤

,例如
染色体上的基因重复。

有明确的证据

表明,单个基因突变
可导致肥胖

,例如
瘦素缺乏症和 POMC 缺乏症。

我们也有两三个
导致肥胖的基因。

我的预测是,
到 2030 年,我们

将能够
通过个体的基因构成来解释大多数肥胖症。

所以肥胖作为一种疾病
通过这个衡量,检查。

让我说清楚。

几十年来,我们人类拥有相同的基因。

就在最近,
肥胖已经成为一个更大的问题。

那我们怎么解释呢?

一件显而易见的事情实际上是食物,
尤其是富含卡路里的食物,

它更容易获得。

通过快餐或大份软饮料

来吃掉你每天所需的卡路里相对容易而且相对便宜

所以基因确实发挥了作用,

但环境
也起着巨大的作用。

某些社区中过多的卡路里

是一个相对较新的事情

,我们的基因还没有完全适应。

在盛宴和饥荒的历史上,

基因选择使
我们为饥荒做好了充分的准备,这

是有充分理由的。

饥饿是不好的,

但你也可以说肥胖是不好的。

如果肥胖是一种疾病,

那么我们如何预防、
治疗甚至治愈它?

我相信大脑掌握着关键。

我一直

对大脑离散部分的小电信号如何

导致重大的行为变化着迷。

我对大脑的研究
使我想到了胰高血糖素样肽 1,

简称 GLP-1。

GLP-1 是

在肠道和大脑中产生的激素和信号分子。

大脑与肠道对话
,肠道与大脑对话。

是的,这是正确的。

你的腹部和你的
大脑实际上是相连的。

我们的研究使我们
看到 GLP-1 对

位于控制
我们是否进食的区域的神经细胞有影响。

因此,例如,
如果我们增加 GLP-1 的水平

,身体吃或暴饮暴食的欲望
就会被关闭。

GLP-1 用作
汽车油箱中的完整信号。

我花了数年和数十年的时间
绘制 GLP-1 的电路图以及

GLP-1 如何
与其他信号分子和激素相互作用。

所有这些东西
一起控制食物摄入量、

体重和
饮食行为的控制。

这一切意味着什么?

好吧,今天,我们已经设计
和研究了这种分子,

所以我们现在有了一种

可以
显着减轻体重的分子。

显然,GLP-1 并不是全部答案。

我们和其他人发现
了许多激素

和其他信号分子

,它们对于
调节食物摄入和体重也很重要。

最终可能会

发现这些信号分子和
激素甚至比 GLP-1 更重要。

所以……

我们有很多事情要做。

我们还有很多值得探索的地方。

所以这不是结束。

它甚至不是从头到尾。

但也许这可能是
开始的结束。 今天,

我们可能在地球上遇到了巨大的体重危机

但好消息是
我们正走在正确的道路上。

我们现在有针对肥胖症患者的解决方案

,下一步将是
更好地了解

肥胖症患者面临的问题。

更好地
了解基因和环境如何共同发挥作用。

最后,
了解所有这些因素如何结合在一起

并决定我们的体重。

然后,也许就在那时,

我们将能够
为患有肥胖症的人提出预防

、治疗甚至治愈方法

就像我们
为任何其他慢性病所做的努力一样。

而这——这仍然是
我们大胆的人生目标。

谢谢你。