The science of cells that never get old Elizabeth Blackburn

Where does the end begin?

Well, for me, it all began
with this little fellow.

This adorable organism –

well, I think it’s adorable –

is called Tetrahymena
and it’s a single-celled creature.

It’s also been known as pond scum.

So that’s right, my career
started with pond scum.

Now, it was no surprise
I became a scientist.

Growing up far away from here,

as a little girl I was deadly curious

about everything alive.

I used to pick up lethally poisonous
stinging jellyfish and sing to them.

And so starting my career,

I was deadly curious
about fundamental mysteries

of the most basic building blocks of life,

and I was fortunate to live in a society
where that curiosity was valued.

Now, for me, this little
pond scum critter Tetrahymena

was a great way to study
the fundamental mystery

I was most curious about:

those bundles of DNA
in our cells called chromosomes.

And it was because I was curious
about the very ends of chromosomes,

known as telomeres.

Now, when I started my quest,

all we knew was that they helped
protect the ends of chromosomes.

It was important when cells divide.

It was really important,

but I wanted to find out
what telomeres consisted of,

and for that, I needed a lot of them.

And it so happens
that cute little Tetrahymena

has a lot of short linear chromosomes,

around 20,000,

so lots of telomeres.

And I discovered that telomeres
consisted of special segments

of noncoding DNA right
at the very ends of chromosomes.

But here’s a problem.

Now, we all start life as a single cell.

It multiples to two.
Two becomes four. Four becomes eight,

and on and on to form
the 200 million billion cells

that make up our adult body.

And some of those cells
have to divide thousands of times.

In fact, even as I stand here before you,

all throughout my body,
cells are furiously replenishing

to, well, keep me
standing here before you.

So every time a cell divides,
all of its DNA has to be copied,

all of the coding DNA
inside of those chromosomes,

because that carries
the vital operating instructions

that keep our cells in good working order,

so my heart cells can keep a steady beat,

which I assure you
they’re not doing right now,

and my immune cells

can fight off bacteria and viruses,

and our brain cells
can save the memory of our first kiss

and keep on learning throughout life.

But there is a glitch
in the way DNA is copied.

It is just one of those facts of life.

Every time the cell divides
and the DNA is copied,

some of that DNA from the ends
gets worn down and shortened,

some of that telomere DNA.

And think about it

like the protective caps
at the ends of your shoelace.

And those keep the shoelace,
or the chromosome, from fraying,

and when that tip
gets too short, it falls off,

and that worn down telomere
sends a signal to the cells.

“The DNA is no longer being protected.”

It sends a signal. Time to die.

So, end of story.

Well, sorry, not so fast.

It can’t be the end of the story,

because life hasn’t died
off the face of the earth.

So I was curious:

if such wear and tear is inevitable,

how on earth does Mother Nature make sure

we can keep our chromosomes intact?

Now, remember that little
pond scum critter Tetrahymena?

The craziest thing was,
Tetrahymena cells never got old and died.

Their telomeres weren’t shortening
as time marched on.

Sometimes they even got longer.

Something else was at work,

and believe me, that something
was not in any textbook.

So working in my lab with
my extraordinary student Carol Greider –

and Carol and I shared
the Nobel Prize for this work –

we began running experiments

and we discovered
cells do have something else.

It was a previously undreamed-of enzyme

that could replenish,
make longer, telomeres,

and we named it telomerase.

And when we removed
our pond scum’s telomerase,

their telomeres ran down and they died.

So it was thanks
to their plentiful telomerase

that our pond scum critters never got old.

OK, now, that’s
an incredibly hopeful message

for us humans to be
receiving from pond scum,

because it turns out

that as we humans age,
our telomeres do shorten,

and remarkably,
that shortening is aging us.

Generally speaking,
the longer your telomeres,

the better off you are.

It’s the overshortening of telomeres

that leads us to feel and see
signs of aging.

My skin cells start to die

and I start to see fine lines, wrinkles.

Hair pigment cells die.

You start to see gray.

Immune system cells die.

You increase your risks of getting sick.

In fact, the cumulative research
from the last 20 years

has made clear that telomere attrition

is contributing to our risks
of getting cardiovascular diseases,

Alzheimer’s, some cancers and diabetes,

the very conditions many of us die of.

And so we have to think about this.

What is going on?

This attrition,

we look and we feel older, yeah.

Our telomeres are losing
the war of attrition faster.

And those of us who feel youthful longer,

it turns out our telomeres
are staying longer

for longer periods of time,

extending our feelings of youthfulness

and reducing the risks
of all we most dread

as the birthdays go by.

OK,

seems like a no-brainer.

Now, if my telomeres are connected

to how quickly
I’m going to feel and get old,

if my telomeres can be
renewed by my telomerase,

then all I have to do to reverse
the signs and symptoms of aging

is figure out where to buy
that Costco-sized bottle

of grade A organic
fair trade telomerase, right?

Great! Problem solved.

(Applause)

Not so fast, I’m sorry.

Alas, that’s not the case.

OK. And why?

It’s because human genetics has taught us

that when it comes to our telomerase,

we humans live on a knife edge.

OK, simply put,

yes, nudging up telomerase
does decrease the risks of some diseases,

but it also increases the risks
of certain and rather nasty cancers.

So even if you could buy
that Costco-sized bottle of telomerase,

and there are many websites
marketing such dubious products,

the problem is you could
nudge up your risks of cancers.

And we don’t want that.

Now, don’t worry,

and because, while I think
it’s kind of funny that right now,

you know, many of us may be thinking,
“Well, I’d rather be like pond scum,” …

(Laughter)

there is something for us humans

in the story of telomeres
and their maintenance.

But I want to get one thing clear.

It isn’t about enormously
extending human lifespan

or immortality.

It’s about health span.

Now, health span is the number
of years of your life

when you’re free of disease,
you’re healthy, you’re productive,

you’re zestfully enjoying life.

Disease span, the opposite of health span,

is the time of your life
spent feeling old and sick and dying.

So the real question becomes,

OK, if I can’t guzzle telomerase,

do I have control
over my telomeres' length

and hence my well-being, my health,

without those downsides of cancer risks?

OK?

So, it’s the year 2000.

Now, I’ve been minutely scrutinizing
little teeny tiny telomeres

very happily for many years,

when into my lab walks
a psychologist named Elissa Epel.

Now, Elissa’s expertise is in the effects
of severe, chronic psychological stress

on our mind’s and our body’s health.

And there she was standing in my lab,

which ironically overlooked
the entrance to a mortuary, and –

(Laughter)

And she had a life-and-death
question for me.

“What happens to telomeres
in people who are chronically stressed?”

she asked me.

You see, she’d been studying caregivers,

and specifically mothers of children
with a chronic condition,

be it gut disorder,
be it autism, you name it –

a group obviously under enormous
and prolonged psychological stress.

I have to say, her question

changed me profoundly.

See, all this time
I had been thinking of telomeres

as those miniscule
molecular structures that they are,

and the genes that control telomeres.

And when Elissa asked me
about studying caregivers,

I suddenly saw telomeres
in a whole new light.

I saw beyond the genes and the chromosomes

into the lives of the real people
we were studying.

And I’m a mom myself,

and at that moment,

I was struck by the image of these women

dealing with a child with a condition

very difficult to deal with,
often without help.

And such women, simply,

often look worn down.

So was it possible their telomeres
were worn down as well?

So our collective curiosity
went into overdrive.

Elissa selected for our first study
a group of such caregiving mothers,

and we wanted to ask:
What’s the length of their telomeres

compared with the number of years
that they have been caregiving

for their child with a chronic condition?

So four years go by

and the day comes
when all the results are in,

and Elissa looked down
at our first scatterplot

and literally gasped,

because there was a pattern to the data,

and it was the exact gradient
that we most feared might exist.

It was right there on the page.

The longer, the more years that is,

the mother had been
in this caregiving situation,

no matter her age,

the shorter were her telomeres.

And the more she perceived

her situation as being more stressful,

the lower was her telomerase
and the shorter were her telomeres.

So we had discovered something unheard of:

the more chronic stress you are under,
the shorter your telomeres,

meaning the more likely you were
to fall victim to an early disease span

and perhaps untimely death.

Our findings meant
that people’s life events

and the way we respond to these events

can change how you
maintain your telomeres.

So telomere length wasn’t
just a matter of age counted in years.

Elissa’s question to me,

back when she first came to my lab,
indeed had been a life-and-death question.

Now, luckily, hidden
in that data there was hope.

We noticed that some mothers,

despite having been carefully caring
for their children for many years,

had been able to maintain their telomeres.

So studying these women closely revealed
that they were resilient to stress.

Somehow they were able
to experience their circumstances

not as a threat day in and day out

but as a challenge,

and this has led to a very important
insight for all of us:

we have control over the way we age

all the way down into our cells.

OK, now our initial curiosity
became infectious.

Thousands of scientists
from different fields

added their expertise
to telomere research,

and the findings have poured in.

It’s up to over 10,000
scientific papers and counting.

So several studies
rapidly confirmed our initial finding

that yes, chronic stress
is bad for telomeres.

And now many are revealing

that we have more control
over this particular aging process

than any of us could ever have imagined.

A few examples:

a study from the University
of California, Los Angeles

of people who are caring
for a relative with dementia, long-term,

and looked at their caregiver’s
telomere maintenance capacity

and found that it was improved

by them practicing a form of meditation

for as little as 12 minutes
a day for two months.

Attitude matters.

If you’re habitually a negative thinker,

you typically see a stressful situation
with a threat stress response,

meaning if your boss wants to see you,

you automatically think,
“I’m about to be fired,”

and your blood vessels constrict,

and your level of the stress
hormone cortisol creeps up,

and then it stays up,

and over time, that persistently
high level of the cortisol

actually damps down your telomerase.

Not good for your telomeres.

On the other hand,

if you typically see something stressful
as a challenge to be tackled,

then blood flows to your heart
and to your brain,

and you experience a brief
but energizing spike of cortisol.

And thanks to that habitual
“bring it on” attitude,

your telomeres do just fine.

So …

What is all of this telling us?

Your telomeres do just fine.

You really do have power
to change what is happening

to your own telomeres.

But our curiosity
just got more and more intense,

because we started to wonder,

what about factors outside our own skin?

Could they impact
our telomere maintenance as well?

You know, we humans
are intensely social beings.

Was it even possible
that our telomeres were social as well?

And the results have been startling.

As early as childhood,

emotional neglect, exposure to violence,

bullying and racism

all impact your telomeres,
and the effects are long-term.

Can you imagine the impact on children

of living years in a war zone?

People who can’t trust their neighbors

and who don’t feel safe
in their neighborhoods

consistently have shorter telomeres.

So your home address
matters for telomeres as well.

On the flip side,

tight-knit communities,
being in a marriage long-term,

and lifelong friendships, even,

all improve telomere maintenance.

So what is all this telling us?

It’s telling us that I have the power
to impact my own telomeres,

and I also have the power to impact yours.

Telomere science has told us
just how interconnected we all are.

But I’m still curious.

I do wonder

what legacy all of us

will leave for the next generation?

Will we invest

in the next young woman or man

peering through a microscope
at the next little critter,

the next bit of pond scum,

curious about a question
we don’t even know today is a question?

It could be a great question
that could impact all the world.

And maybe, maybe you’re curious about you.

Now that you know
how to protect your telomeres,

are you curious what are you going to do

with all those decades
of brimming good health?

And now that you know you could impact
the telomeres of others,

are you curious

how will you make a difference?

And now that you know the power
of curiosity to change the world,

how will you make sure
that the world invests in curiosity

for the sake of the generations
that will come after us?

Thank you.

(Applause)

结束从哪里开始?

嗯,对我来说,这一切都是从
这个小家伙开始的。

这种可爱的生物——

嗯,我认为它很可爱——

被称为四膜虫
,它是一种单细胞生物。

它也被称为池塘浮渣。

没错,我的职业生涯
始于池塘浮渣。

现在,
我成为一名科学家也就不足为奇了。

在远离这里的地方长大,

作为一个小女孩,我

对活着的一切都充满了好奇。

我过去常常捡起致命的有
毒刺水母并为它们唱歌。

因此,在我的职业生涯开始时,

对生命最基本组成部分的基本奥秘非常好奇

,我很幸运生活在一个
重视这种好奇心的社会。

现在,对我来说,这个小
池塘浮渣生物四膜虫

是研究

我最好奇的基本奥秘的好方法:

我们细胞中称为染色体的那些 DNA 束。

那是因为我
对染色体的末端非常好奇,

也就是端粒。

现在,当我开始我的探索时

,我们只知道它们有助于
保护染色体的末端。

细胞分裂时很重要。

这真的很重要,

但我想
知道端粒是由什么组成的

,为此,我需要很多端粒。

碰巧可爱的小四膜虫

有很多短的线性染色体,

大约 20,000 条,

所以有很多端粒。

我发现端粒
由位于染色体末端的特殊

非编码DNA片段组成

但这里有个问题。

现在,我们都以单细胞开始生活。

它的倍数为二。
二变成四。 四变成八

,不断地形成构成我们成人身体
的 2 亿个细胞

其中一些细胞
必须分裂数千次。

事实上,即使我站在你面前,

我全身的
细胞都在疯狂地

补充,好吧,让我
站在你面前。

所以每次细胞分裂时,它的
所有 DNA 都必须被复制,

这些染色体内的所有编码 DNA,

因为它携带
着重要的操作指令

,使我们的细胞保持良好的工作状态,

所以我的心脏细胞可以保持稳定

我向你保证,
他们现在没有这样做

,我的免疫细胞

可以抵抗细菌和病毒

,我们的脑细胞
可以保存我们第一次接吻的记忆,

并在一生中不断学习。


DNA 的复制方式存在故障。

这只是生活中的事实之一。

每次细胞分裂
并复制

DNA 时,末端的一些 DNA
就会磨损和缩短,

其中一些是端粒 DNA。

把它想象

成你鞋带末端的保护帽。

那些可以防止鞋带
或染色体磨损

,当尖端
太短时,它会脱落

,磨损的端粒会
向细胞发出信号。

“DNA 不再受到保护。”

它发出一个信号。 是时候死了。

所以,故事结束。

好吧,对不起,没那么快。

这不可能是故事的结局,

因为
地球表面还没有死去。

所以我很好奇:

如果这样的磨损是不可避免的,

那么大自然母亲究竟是如何确保

我们能够保持染色体完整的呢?

现在,还记得那个小
池塘浮渣生物四膜虫吗?

最疯狂的是,
四膜虫细胞永远不会变老和死亡。

随着时间的推移,它们的端粒并没有缩短。

有时他们甚至变得更长。

还有其他东西在起作用

,相信
我,任何教科书中都没有。

所以在我的实验室里和
我非凡的学生卡罗尔格雷德一起工作

——卡罗尔和我分享
了这项工作的诺贝尔奖——

我们开始进行实验

,我们发现
细胞确实有别的东西。

它是一种以前无法想象的酶

,可以补充
、延长端粒

,我们将其命名为端粒酶。

当我们去除
池塘浮渣的端粒酶时,

它们的端粒会下降并死亡。

因此,多亏
了它们丰富的端粒酶

,我们的池塘浮渣生物才不会变老。

好的,现在,

对于我们人类来说,
从池塘浮渣中接收到的信息令人难以置信,

因为事实证明

,随着人类年龄的增长,
我们的端粒确实会缩短,

而且值得注意的是,
这种缩短正在使我们衰老。

一般来说,
你的端粒越长,

你的情况就越好。

正是端粒的过度缩短

导致我们感觉到和看到
衰老的迹象。

我的皮肤细胞开始死亡

,我开始看到细纹和皱纹。

头发色素细胞死亡。

你开始看到灰色。

免疫系统细胞死亡。

你会增加生病的风险。

事实上,
过去 20 年的累积

研究表明,端粒磨损

会导致我们
患心血管疾病、

阿尔茨海默氏症、某些癌症和糖尿病的风险

,而这些正是我们许多人死于这些疾病的原因。

所以我们必须考虑这一点。

到底是怎么回事?

这种损耗,

我们看起来,我们感觉更老了,是的。

我们的端粒正在
更快地输掉消耗战。

而我们这些感觉年轻的人,

事实证明,我们的
端粒停留

的时间更长,

延长了我们的年轻感,

并减少了生日
过后我们最害怕的一切风险

好的,

看起来很简单。

现在,如果我的端粒与

我感觉和变老的速度有关,

如果我的端粒可以
被我的端粒酶更新,

那么我要扭转
衰老的迹象和症状所要做的

就是弄清楚在哪里买
那个 Costco 大小

的 A 级有机
公平贸易端粒酶瓶,对吧?

伟大的! 问题解决了。

(掌声)

没那么快,对不起。

唉,事实并非如此。

行。 为什么?

这是因为人类遗传学告诉我们

,当涉及到端粒酶时,

我们人类生活在刀刃上。

好吧,简单地说,

是的,轻推端粒酶
确实降低了某些疾病的风险,

但它也增加
了某些相当讨厌的癌症的风险。

因此,即使你能
买到 Costco 大小的一瓶端粒酶,

而且有许多网站在
推销这种可疑产品

,但问题是你可能会增加
患癌症的风险。

我们不希望这样。

现在,别担心

,因为,虽然我觉得
这很有趣,但

你知道,我们中的许多人可能会想,
“好吧,我宁愿像池塘的人渣一样,”……

(笑声) 在端粒及其维护的故事中

,我们人类有一些东西

但我想弄清楚一件事。

这不是关于极大地
延长人类寿命

或不朽。

这是关于健康跨度。

现在,健康跨度是指
您一生中

没有疾病、
身体健康、富有成效、

满怀热情地享受生活的年数。

疾病跨度,与健康跨度相反,

是你一生中
感觉老、病和垂死的时间。

所以真正的问题变成了,

好吧,如果我不能消耗端粒酶,

我是否可以
控制我的端粒长度

,从而控制我的幸福,我的健康,

而没有癌症风险的那些不利因素?

好的?

所以,现在是 2000 年。

现在,多年来,我一直非常高兴地仔细检查
微小的端粒


一位名叫 Elissa Epel 的心理学家走进我的实验室时。

现在,Elissa 的专长
是严重的慢性心理压力

对我们的思想和身体健康的影响。

她站在我的实验室里

,讽刺地忽略
了停尸间的入口,而且——

(笑声

) 她有一个生死攸关的
问题要问我。


长期处于压力之下的人的端粒会发生什么变化?”

她问我。

你看,她一直在研究照顾者

,特别是患有慢性疾病的孩子的母亲

,无论是肠道疾病
,还是自闭症,你说出来的——

一个显然承受着巨大
而长期心理压力的群体。

不得不说,她的问题

深深地改变了我。

看,一直以来,
我一直认为端粒

是它们所具有的微小
分子结构,

以及控制端粒的基因。

当 Elissa 问我
关于研究护理人员的问题时,

我突然对
端粒有了全新的认识。

我看到了超越基因和染色体,

进入了我们正在研究的真实人物的生活

而我自己也是一个妈妈

,在那一刻,

我被这些妇女

与一个患有非常难以处理的疾病的孩子

打交道的形象所震撼,而且
往往没有帮助。

而这样的女性,简单地说,

往往看起来很疲惫。

那么他们的端粒是否也有可能
被磨损?

因此,我们的集体好奇心
变得超速。

Elissa 为我们的第一项研究选择了
一组这样的照顾母亲

,我们想问:与照顾患有慢性病的孩子的年数相比
,他们的端粒长度是多少

四年过去了

,所有结果都出来的那一天

,Elissa 低头
看着我们的第一个散点图

,简直倒吸一口凉气,

因为数据有一个模式

,这
是我们最担心可能存在的确切梯度。

它就在页面上。 母亲在这种照顾环境中

的时间越长,也就是越长,

无论她的年龄大小,

她的端粒越短。

她越是觉得

自己的处境压力越大,

她的端粒酶
越低,端粒越短。

所以我们发现了一些闻所未闻的事情:

你承受的慢性压力
越多,你的端粒越短,

这意味着你越有可能
成为早期疾病的受害者

,甚至可能过早死亡。

我们的发现
意味着人们的生活事件

以及我们对这些事件的反应方式

可以改变
您维持端粒的方式。

所以端粒长度
不仅仅是一个以年计的年龄问题。

当艾丽莎第一次来到我的实验室时,她向我提出的问题

确实是一个生死攸关的问题。

现在,幸运的是,隐藏
在这些数据中的是希望。

我们注意到,一些母亲

尽管多年来一直在悉心
照顾自己的孩子,

但仍然能够维持她们的端粒。

因此,对这些女性的仔细研究表明
,她们能够承受压力。

不知何故,他们能够
将自己的环境体验

为不是日复一日的威胁,

而是一种挑战

,这为我们所有人带来了一个非常重要的
见解:

我们可以控制自己的年龄一直到我们的年龄。

细胞。

好的,现在我们最初的好奇心
变得具有感染力。

来自不同领域的数千名科学家

将他们的专业知识添加
到端粒研究中,

并且研究结果源源不断地涌现

。多达 10,000
多篇科学论文并且还在增加。

因此,几项研究
迅速证实了我们最初的发现

,是的,慢性
压力对端粒有害。

现在许多人透露

,我们
对这一特定衰老过程的控制力

超出了我们任何人的想象。

举几个例子:

加利福尼亚大学洛杉矶

分校对
长期照顾患有痴呆症的亲戚的人进行的一项研究,

并观察了他们的照顾者的
端粒维持能力

,发现

他们通过练习某种形式的冥想得到了改善

两个月内每天只需 12
分钟。

态度很重要。

如果你习惯性地消极思考,

你通常会看到一个
带有威胁压力反应的压力情况,

这意味着如果你的老板想见你,

你会不由自主地想,
“我要被解雇了”

,你的血管会收缩,

你的压力
荷尔蒙皮质醇水平会上升,

然后它会保持上升,

随着时间的推移,持续
高水平的

皮质醇实际上会抑制你的端粒酶。

对你的端粒不好。

另一方面,

如果您通常将压力
视为需要解决的挑战,

那么血液会流向您的心脏
和大脑

,您会经历短暂
但充满活力的皮质醇峰值。

并且由于习惯性的
“带上它”的态度,

你的端粒做得很好。

所以……

这一切告诉我们什么?

你的端粒做得很好。

你真的有
能力改变

你自己的端粒发生的事情。

但是我们的
好奇心越来越强烈,

因为我们开始想,

我们自己皮肤之外的因素呢?

它们也会影响
我们的端粒维护吗?

你知道,我们人类
是高度社会化的生物。

我们的端粒是否也可能是社交的?

结果令人吃惊。

早在童年时期,

情感忽视、接触暴力、

欺凌和种族主义

都会影响你的端粒,
而且影响是长期的。

你能想象

在战区生活多年的孩子对孩子的影响吗?

不能信任邻居

并且
在他们的社区中感到不安全的人

总是有较短的端粒。

所以你的家庭住址
对端粒也很重要。

另一方面,

紧密的社区
,长期的婚姻

,甚至终身的友谊,

都可以改善端粒的维持。

那么这一切告诉我们什么呢?

它告诉我们,我有
能力影响我自己的端粒

,我也有能力影响你的端粒。

端粒科学告诉我们,
我们是多么相互关联。

但我还是很好奇。

我确实想知道

我们所有人

将为下一代留下什么遗产?

我们是否会投资

于下一个年轻女性或男性,他们

通过显微镜凝视
下一个

小动物,下一个池塘浮渣,


我们今天甚至不知道的问题感到好奇?

这可能是一个影响全世界的好问题

也许,也许你对你很好奇。

既然您知道
如何保护您的端粒,

您是否好奇您将如何

处理这几十年
的健康?

既然您知道您可以影响
他人的端粒,

您是否好奇

您将如何有所作为?

既然你知道
好奇心改变世界的力量,

你将如何
确保世界

为了我们之后的几代人而投资于好奇心

谢谢你。

(掌声)