A memory scientists advice on reporting harassment and discrimination Julia Shaw

Me Too and Time’s Up have highlighted

that harassment and discrimination
are a shockingly common part

of many people’s lived reality,

and that this reality
extends into the workplace.

Whether in tech or finance,
sports or the service industry,

every day we seem to hear another story
about an abuse of power

or another grossly inappropriate
workplace behavior.

People are furious.

They’re taking to Twitter and social media
to voice that this must change.

But it’s time to move beyond the hashtag.

It’s time for us to report
harassment and discrimination

to those who can fix this mess.

And it’s time for us
to talk about harassment

in a more inclusive way:

not just about sexual harassment,

but to encourage people to come forward

about harassment and discrimination
based on other characteristics

such as age, disability or ethnicity.

Because only together can we fix

the underlying causes
and consequences of harassment.

You see, most of us will,

at some point in our lives,

experience workplace
harassment or discrimination.

Research shows that particularly
women, people of color

and people who openly identify as LGBTQI
are likely to be targeted,

and for some people, this is a pervasive
and persistent part of their reality.

And for most of these people –

98 percent according to some studies –

most of these people will never
speak up and tell their employer.

Too often, harassment and discrimination
is a lonely and isolating experience,

but we need to help people
out from under their desks.

We need to empower people to have a voice.

The reasonable first question
that everybody asks

once they’ve been harassed
is “What do I do now?”

And this is what I want to help you with.

Navigating the barriers to reporting
can be absolutely dizzying.

How can we speak up in a society

that too often discredits
or diminishes our experiences?

How can we speak up in a society

that is likely to be
retributive towards us?

How can we deal with the silencing
that goes on all around us?

Making matters worse,

often our memories are the only
evidence we have of what happened.

Now, here’s where I can come in.

I’m a memory scientist,

and I specialize in how we remember
important emotional events.

I’ve particularly focused
on how the memory interview process

can severely impact the evidentiary
quality of reports that we produce.

A bad interview can lead you
to forget details or misremember them

while a good interview can forever
change your life for the better.

After looking at lab reports
and working,

studying this issue both in the courtroom
and in research settings,

I’ve dissected all the different things
that can go wrong with our memories

that can really threaten your case.

And now I’m turning my attention
to helping people tackle

recording and reporting of workplace
harassment and discrimination.

There’s three things that I’ve learned
from my research on this

that you can immediately apply

if you’ve been harassed
or discriminated against at work.

I want to help you
turn your memory into evidence –

evidence that even
a memory skeptic like me

is unlikely to find fault with.

First of all, James Comey had it right.

The former head of the FBI
used to sit in his car,

lock himself in after meetings
with the president

and write down absolutely everything
he could remember about what happened.

The now-famous recordings
proved to be quite useful later on.

Be like Comey.

Now, you don’t need to lock yourself
into your car to do this,

but please, immediately
after something happens,

I want you to contemporaneously
record what happened.

And do this before talking
to anyone else about it.

Because as soon as your share your story

with friends or family
or colleagues or therapists,

you have the potential to distort
or change your memory of the event.

Uncontaminated, contemporaneous
evidence is worth gold.

Second: the type of evidence matters.

Sure, you can do a handwritten
note of what happens,

but how do you prove when you wrote it?

Instead, pull out
your computer or smartphone

and make a note that’s time-stamped,

where you can prove
this was recorded at this time.

Contemporaneous,
time-stamped evidence is better.

Finally, make sure what you’re writing
down is actually relevant.

Too often, we see that people
bring out Facebook messages,

they bring out time-stamped
pieces of evidence,

but sure, they’re
not particularly relevant,

they’re not particularly useful.

It’s easy to write an emotional,
unstructured account of what happened –

understandable because
it’s an emotional experience –

but those might not actually be
the details that matter later on

for an investigation.

Write down this list.

I want you to keep track of this
and simply fill in the blanks.

First of all, what happened?

In as much detail as possible,

describe the situation,

and do it on the day it happened
if at all possible.

Second, who was there?

Were there any witnesses?

This becomes crucial potentially later on.

What exact time and date did this happen?

What location? Where did this happen?

Who did you tell after the event?

How did it make you feel
during and after it happened?

And is there any other evidence
such as WhatsApps, photos or emails

that might lend
more credibility to your case.

These are all details that are incredibly
easy to record contemporaneously

but are also incredibly easy
to forget later on.

Humans, according to research,
often overestimate their ability

to remember important
emotional details later on.

Assume that you’re going to forget.

Assume you have to write it down.

Now, these three pieces of advice
are a good start,

but of course they don’t overcome
a lot of the other barriers to reporting.

According to the Equality
and Human Rights Commission,

which published a report in 2018,

there’s one key recommendation
to overcome some of the other fears

often associated with reporting
these kinds of incidents to your employer.

One piece of advice that they made?

Have an online, anonymous reporting tool.

Only that way, they say,

can you truly overcome many
of the fears associated with reporting.

Now, in line with this,

and informed by what
was happening all around me

and taking and applying
the memory science,

the science that I had
been doing for many years,

I sat down with a number of people

and we together created TalkToSpot.com.

Spot is an online,
anonymous reporting tool

that helps you record and report
workplace harassment and discrimination.

It allows you to do it anonymously,

it allows you to do it for free,

and it’s completely evidence-based.

You don’t have to talk to a person,

there’s no fear of judgment,

and you can do it
whenever and wherever you need.

Now you have the power to walk through
an evidence-based memory interview.

Now, this is called a cognitive interview.

This is the same technique that police use
when they’re doing their job properly.

So in best-case scenarios,

people who are being asked
about important emotional events

are being asked in line
with the cognitive interview.

Now, this walks you through
all the relevant information

so that at the end,
after you’ve talked to the bot –

which is an automatic messaging system –

after you’ve talked to the bot,

it generates a PDF record
that’s time-stamped and securely signed

that you can keep for yourself as evidence
in case you want to share it later,

or you can submit it
to your employer right away.

And in line with recommendations,

you can submit it
to your employer anonymously.

But a reporting tool is only as useful
as the audience that’s listening.

So if your employer
is truly committed to change,

we’ve decided to also offer them
the tool to respond.

So if organizations work with us

and are truly committed to doing something

about workplace harassment
and discrimination,

they’re also able to respond to you
even if you’ve chosen to stay anonymous.

We think it’s important that you can work
together with your employer

to tackle this issue.

We think that everybody wins
when we bring light into this dark issue.

Whether it happens to you
or to someone you know,

recording and reporting what happened

can really improve
how we talk about these issues.

And if you’re an organization,

this is a call to give
your employees access

to better and more effective
reporting mechanisms.

We know that the current methods
that are used in most organizations

don’t work effectively.

It’s time to change that if you’re
committed to inclusion and diversity.

It’s time for us
to celebrate our diversity.

It’s time for us to give a voice

to those who have for too long
been denied one.

It’s time for us to celebrate
those who come forward,

even if they feel
they need to stay anonymous –

to stay masked to do so.

It’s time for a reporting revolution.

Thank you.

(Applause)

Me Too 和 Time’s Up 强调

,骚扰和歧视

是许多人生活现实中令人震惊的普遍部分,

而且这种现实
延伸到工作场所。

无论是在科技或金融、
体育或服务行业,

我们似乎每天都听到另一个
关于滥用权力

或另一个严重不当的
工作场所行为的故事。

人们很愤怒。

他们在 Twitter 和社交媒体
上表示,这种情况必须改变。

但现在是超越主题标签的时候了。

现在是我们向

能够解决这个问题的人报告骚扰和歧视的时候了。

现在是我们

以更具包容性的方式谈论骚扰的时候了:

不仅仅是性骚扰,

而是鼓励人们提出

基于

年龄、残疾或种族等其他特征的骚扰和歧视。

因为只有团结起来,我们才能解决骚扰

的根本原因
和后果。

你看,我们大多数人都会

在生活中的某个时刻

经历工作场所的
骚扰或歧视。

研究表明,尤其是
女性、有色人种

和公开认定为 LGBTQI 的
人很可能成为目标,

而对于某些人来说,这
是他们现实中普遍而持久的一部分。

而对于这些人中的大多数人来说——

根据一些研究,98%——

这些人中的大多数人永远不会
直言不讳地告诉他们的雇主。

很多时候,骚扰和歧视
是一种孤独和孤立的经历,

但我们需要帮助人们
走出办公桌。

我们需要赋予人们发言权。

一旦受到骚扰
,每个人都会问的第一个合理问题

是“我现在该怎么办?”

这就是我想帮助你的。

跨越报道的障碍
绝对令人眼花缭乱。

在一个

经常抹黑
或贬低我们的经历的社会中,我们如何发声?

在一个可能对我们进行报复的社会中,我们如何发声

我们如何
应对周围发生的沉默?

更糟糕的是,

我们的记忆通常是
我们所拥有的关于所发生事情的唯一证据。

现在,这就是我可以进入的地方。

我是一名记忆科学家

,我专注于我们如何记住
重要的情感事件。

我特别
关注记忆访谈过程

如何严重影响
我们制作的报告的证据质量。

一次糟糕的面试会导致
你忘记细节或记错,

而一次好的面试可以永远
改变你的生活。

在查看了实验室报告
和工作,

在法庭和研究环境中研究了这个问题之后

我剖析
了我们记忆中可能出现问题的所有不同事情,这些事情可能会

真正威胁到你的案件。

现在,我将注意力
转向帮助人们处理

工作场所
骚扰和歧视的记录和报告。

我从这方面的研究中学到了三件事,

如果你
在工作中受到骚扰或歧视,你可以立即申请。

我想帮助你
把你的记忆变成证据——

即使
像我这样的记忆怀疑论者

也不太可能找错的证据。

首先,詹姆斯·科米是对的。

这位前联邦调查局局长
过去常常坐在他的车里,

在与总统会面后把自己锁在车里,

并写下
他能记住的关于所发生的一切。

现在著名的录音
后来被证明非常有用。

像科米一样。

现在,你不需要把自己锁
在车里来做这件事,

但是请
在事情发生后立即

记录下发生的事情。


与其他人谈论它之前做到这一点。

因为一旦你

与朋友、家人
、同事或治疗师分享你的故事,

你就有可能扭曲
或改变你对事件的记忆。

未受污染的同时代
证据价值连城。

第二:证据的类型很重要。

当然,您可以手写
记录所发生的事情,

但是您如何证明您何时写过呢?

相反,请拿出
您的计算机或智能手机

并做一个带有时间戳的笔记

,您可以在其中证明
这是此时记录的。

同期的、
有时间戳的证据更好。

最后,确保你写下的
内容实际上是相关的。

我们经常看到人们
拿出 Facebook 消息,

他们拿出带有时间戳
的证据,

但可以肯定的是,它们
并不是特别相关,

也不是特别有用。 对所发生的事情

写一个情绪化的、非结构化的描述很容易
——这是可以

理解的,因为
这是一种情绪化的体验——

但这些可能实际上并不是
后来调查的重要细节

写下这份清单。

我希望您跟踪这一点
并简单地填写空白。

首先,发生了什么?

尽可能详细地

描述情况,

并尽可能在事情发生的那一天
进行。

第二,谁在那里?

有证人吗?

这在以后可能变得至关重要。

这件事发生的确切时间和日期是什么?

什么位置? 这发生在哪里?

活动结束后你告诉了谁?

在这件事发生期间和之后,你有什么感受?

是否有任何其他证据,
例如 WhatsApp、照片或电子邮件

,可以
为您的案件增加可信度。

这些都是非常
容易同时记录的细节,

但也非常容易
在以后忘记。

根据研究,人类
经常高估自己以后

记住重要
情感细节的能力。

假设你会忘记。

假设你必须把它写下来。

现在,这三条建议
是一个好的开始,

但当然它们并没有
克服许多其他报告障碍。

根据 2018 年发布报告的平等
与人权委员会的说法

有一个关键建议
可以克服

通常与
向雇主报告此类事件相关的其他一些恐惧。

他们提出的一条建议?

拥有一个在线匿名报告工具。

他们说,只有这样,

你才能真正克服
与报道相关的许多恐惧。

现在,根据这一点,

并了解
我周围发生的事情

并采用和
应用记忆

科学,这是我
多年来一直从事的科学,

我与许多人坐下来

,我们一起创建了 TalkToSpot.com .

Spot 是一种在线
匿名举报工具

,可帮助您记录和举报
工作场所的骚扰和歧视。

它允许您匿名进行,

它允许您免费进行,

并且完全基于证据。

您无需与人交谈

,无需担心判断

,您可以
随时随地进行。

现在你有能力通过
基于证据的记忆访谈。

现在,这被称为认知访谈。

这与警察
在正常工作时使用的技术相同。

因此,在最好的情况下,

被问及重要情感事件

的人会
根据认知访谈被问及。

现在,这将引导您浏览
所有相关信息,

以便最后,
在您与机器人(

这是一个自动消息传递系统)

交谈之后,在您与机器人交谈之后,

它会生成一个 PDF 记录
,即时间 - 盖章和安全签名

,您可以保留自己作为证据,
以备日后分享,

或者您可以立即提交
给您的雇主。

根据建议,

您可以匿名将其提交
给您的雇主。

但报告工具仅与
正在倾听的听众一样有用。

因此,如果您的
雇主真正致力于改变,

我们决定也为
他们提供响应工具。

因此,如果组织与我们合作

并真正致力于解决

工作场所的骚扰
和歧视,即使您选择保持匿名,

他们也能够回复您

我们认为您可以
与您的雇主

一起解决这个问题,这一点很重要。

我们认为,
当我们为这个黑暗的问题带来光明时,每个人都会获胜。

无论是发生在您身上还是发生在
您认识的人身上,

记录和报告所发生的事情

都可以真正改善
我们谈论这些问题的方式。

如果您是一个组织,

这是一个让
您的员工

访问更好、更有效的
报告机制的呼吁。

我们知道,
大多数组织中使用的当前方法

都不能有效地发挥作用。

如果您致力于包容和多元化,是时候改变这种状况了

现在是
我们庆祝我们的多样性的时候了。

现在是

我们为那些长期
被拒绝的人发声的时候了。

现在是我们庆祝
那些挺身而出的人的时候了,

即使他们觉得
自己需要保持匿名——

为了这样做而保持蒙面。

现在是报道革命的时候了。

谢谢你。

(掌声)