This scientist makes ears out of apples Andrew Pelling

I’ve got a confession.

I love looking through people’s garbage.

Now, it’s not some creepy thing.

I’m usually just looking
for old electronics,

stuff I can take to my workshop and hack.

I do have a fetish for CD-ROM drives.

Each one’s got three different motors,

so now you can build things that move.

There’s switches so you can
turn things on and off.

There’s even a freaking laser,

so you can make a cool robot
into an awesome robot.

Now, I’ve built
a lot of stuff out of garbage,

and some of these things
have even been kind of useful.

But here’s the thing,

for me, garbage is just a chance to play,

to be creative and build things
to amuse myself.

This is what I love doing,
so I just made it part of my day job.

I lead a university-based
biological research lab,

where we value curiosity
and exploration above all else.

We aren’t focused
on any particular problem,

and we’re not trying to solve
any particular disease.

This is just a place where people can come

and ask fascinating questions
and find answers.

And I realized a long time ago

that if I challenge people
to build the equipment they need

out of the garbage I find,

it’s a great way to foster creativity.

And what happened

was that artists and scientists
from around the world

started coming to my lab.

And it’s not just because
we value unconventional ideas,

it’s because we test and validate them

with scientific rigor.

So one day I was hacking something,
I was taking it apart,

and I had this sudden idea:

Could I treat biology like hardware?

Could I dismantle a biological system,

mix and match the parts

and then put it back together
in some new and creative way?

My lab started working on this,

and I want to show you the result.

Can any of you guys
tell me what fruit this is?

Audience: Apple!

Andrew Pelling:
That’s right – it’s an apple.

Now, I actually want you to notice as well

that this is a lot redder
than most apples.

And that’s because
we grew human cells into it.

We took a totally innocent
Macintosh apple,

removed all the apple cells and DNA

and then implanted human cells.

And what we’re left with
after removing all the apple cells

is this cellulose scaffold.

This is the stuff that gives plants
their shape and texture.

And these little holes that you can see,

this is where all
the apple cells used to be.

So then we come along,

we implant some mammalian cells
that you can see in blue.

What happens is,
these guys start multiplying

and they fill up this entire scaffold.

As weird as this is,

it’s actually really reminiscent
of how our own tissues are organized.

And we found in our pre-clinical work

that you can implant
these scaffolds into the body,

and the body will send in cells
and a blood supply

and actually keep these things alive.

This is the point
when people started asking me,

“Andrew, can you make
body parts out of apples?”

And I’m like, “You’ve come
to the right place.”

(Laughter)

I actually brought this up with my wife.

She’s a musical instrument maker,

and she does a lot
of wood carving for a living.

So I asked her,

“Could you, like,
literally carve some ears

out of an apple for us?”

And she did.

So I took her ears to the lab.

We then started preparing them.

Yeah, I know.

(Laughter)

It’s a good lab, man.

(Laughter)

And then we grew cells on them.

And this is the result.

Listen, my lab is not
in the ear-manufacturing business.

People have actually been working
on this for decades.

Here’s the issue:

commercial scaffolds can be
really expensive and problematic,

because they’re sourced
from proprietary products,

animals or cadavers.

We used an apple and it cost pennies.

What’s also really cool here

is it’s not that hard
to make these things.

The equipment you need
can be built from garbage,

and the key processing step
only requires soap and water.

So what we did was put all
the instructions online as open source.

And then we founded
a mission-driven company,

and we’re developing kits
to make it easier

for anyone with a sink
and a soldering iron

to make these things at home.

What I’m really curious
about is if one day,

it will be possible to repair, rebuild
and augment our own bodies

with stuff we make in the kitchen.

Speaking of kitchens,

here’s some asparagus.

They’re tasty, and they make
your pee smell funny.

(Laughter)

Now, I was in my kitchen,
and I was noticing

that when you look down
the stalks of these asparagus,

what you can see
are all these tiny little vessels.

And when we image them in the lab,

you can see how the cellulose
forms these structures.

This image reminds me of two things:

our blood vessels

and the structure and organization
of our nerves and spinal cord.

So here’s the question:

Can we grow axons and neurons
down these channels?

Because if we can,

then maybe we can use asparagus
to form new connections

between the ends of damaged
and severed nerves.

Or maybe even a spinal cord.

Don’t get me wrong –

this is exceptionally challenging

and really hard work to do,

and we are not the only ones
working on this.

But we are the only ones using asparagus.

(Laughter)

Right now, we’ve got
really promising pilot data.

And we’re working with tissue engineers

and neurosurgeons

to find out what’s actually possible.

So listen, all of the work I’ve shown you,

the stuff that I’ve built
that’s all around me on this stage

and the other projects
my lab is involved in

are all a direct result
of me playing with your garbage.

Play – play is a key part
of my scientific practice.

It’s how I train my mind
to be unconventional and to be creative

and to decide to make human apple ears.

So, the next time any of you
are looking at some old,

broken-down, malfunctioning,
piece-of-crap technology,

I want you to think of me.

Because I want it.

(Laughter)

Seriously, please find any way
to get in touch with me,

and let’s see what we can build.

Thank you.

(Applause)

我有一个坦白。

我喜欢翻看人们的垃圾。

现在,这不是什么令人毛骨悚然的事情。

我通常只是在
寻找旧的电子产品,

这些东西我可以带到我的工作室并破解。

我确实对 CD-ROM 驱动器有一种迷恋。

每个人都有三个不同的马达,

所以现在你可以建造移动的东西。

有开关,所以你可以
打开和关闭东西。

甚至还有一个可怕的激光,

所以你可以把一个很酷的机器人
变成一个很棒的机器人。

现在,我已经
用垃圾构建了很多东西,

其中
一些甚至还很有用。

但事情是这样的,

对我来说,垃圾只是一个玩耍的机会,

是有创造力的,是创造一些东西
来娱乐自己。

这是我喜欢做的事情,
所以我只是把它作为我日常工作的一部分。

我领导着一个以大学为基础的
生物研究实验室,

在这里我们重视好奇心
和探索高于一切。

我们没有专注
于任何特定的问题,

也没有试图解决
任何特定的疾病。

这只是一个人们可以

来提出有趣的问题
并找到答案的地方。

很久以前我就

意识到,如果我挑战人们
用我发现的垃圾制造他们需要的设备

这是培养创造力的好方法。

发生的事情

是来自世界各地的艺术家和科学家

开始来到我的实验室。

这不仅仅是因为
我们重视非传统的想法,

还因为我们以科学严谨的态度测试和验证它们

所以有一天我在破解一些东西,
我正在把它拆开

,我突然有了一个想法:

我可以像对待硬件一样对待生物学吗?

我可以拆解一个生物系统,

混合和匹配各个部分

,然后
以一些新的和创造性的方式将它重新组合在一起吗?

我的实验室开始研究这个

,我想向你展示结果。

谁能
告诉我这是什么水果?

观众:苹果!

Andrew Pelling:
没错——它是一个苹果。

现在,我实际上也想让你注意到

,这
比大多数苹果都要红。

那是因为
我们在其中培养了人类细胞。

我们取了一个完全无辜的
Macintosh 苹果,

去除了所有的苹果细胞和 DNA

,然后植入了人体细胞。

去除所有苹果细胞后,我们剩下的

就是这个纤维素支架。

这是赋予
植物形状和质地的东西。

还有这些你可以看到的小洞,

这里是
所有苹果细胞的地方。

所以我们来了,

我们植入了
一些你可以看到蓝色的哺乳动物细胞。

发生的事情是,
这些家伙开始繁殖

,他们填满了整个脚手架。

尽管这很奇怪,

但它实际上真的
让人想起我们自己的组织是如何组织的。

我们在临床前工作中

发现,您可以将
这些支架植入体内,

然后身体会输送细胞
和血液供应

,实际上让这些东西保持活力。

这就是
人们开始问我的时候,

“安德鲁,你能用
苹果做身体部位吗?”

我想,“你
来对地方了。”

(笑声)

我实际上是和我妻子提起这件事的。

她是一名乐器制造商

,以
木雕为生。

所以我问她

,“你能不能

从一个苹果上为我们雕刻一些耳朵?”

她做到了。

所以我把她的耳朵带到了实验室。

然后我们开始准备它们。

是的,我知道。

(笑声)

这是一个很好的实验室,伙计。

(笑声

) 然后我们在它们上面培养细胞。

这就是结果。

听着,我的实验室
不是做耳业的。

人们实际上已经
为此工作了几十年。

问题是:

商业脚手架可能
非常昂贵且有问题,

因为它们
来自专有产品、

动物或尸体。

我们用了一个苹果,它花了几美分。

这里真正酷的


制作这些东西并不难。

你需要的设备
可以用垃圾建造

,关键的加工步骤
只需要肥皂和水。

所以我们所做的就是把所有
的指令作为开源放在网上。

然后我们成立
了一家以使命为导向的公司

,我们正在开发工具包

让任何有水槽
和烙铁的人更容易

在家中制作这些东西。

我真正好奇的
是,如果有一天,

我们有可能用我们在厨房里做的东西来修复、重建
和增强我们自己的身体

说到厨房,

这里有一些芦笋。

它们很好吃,它们让
你的小便闻起来很有趣。

(笑声)

现在,我在我的厨房里
,我

注意到当你向下看
这些芦笋的茎时,

你能看到
的都是这些小小的容器。

当我们在实验室中对它们进行成像时,

您可以看到纤维素
是如何形成这些结构的。

这张图片让我想起了两件事:

我们的血管

以及
我们的神经和脊髓的结构和组织。

那么问题来了:

我们可以在这些通道中生长轴突和神经元
吗?

因为如果可以的

话,也许我们可以用芦笋

在受损
和切断的神经末端之间形成新的连接。

或者甚至是脊髓。

不要误会我的意思——

这是一项极具挑战性

且非常艰巨的工作,

而且我们并不是唯一
致力于此的人。

但我们是唯一使用芦笋的人。

(笑声)

现在,我们得到了
非常有希望的试点数据。

我们正在与组织工程师

和神经外科医生合作,

以找出实际可行的方法。

所以听着,我向你

展示的所有工作,我在这个舞台上围绕我建造的东西

以及
我实验室参与的其他项目

都是
我玩你的垃圾的直接结果。

玩——玩
是我科学实践的关键部分。

这就是我如何训练自己的
思想不落俗套、发挥创造力

并决定制作人类苹果耳朵的方式。

所以,下次当你们
中的任何人看到一些陈旧的、

故障的、故障的、
垃圾技术时,

我希望你们想到我。

因为我想要它。

(笑声)

说真的,请
想办法联系我

,看看我们能建什么。

谢谢你。

(掌声)