Emma Teeling The secret of the bat genome

Translator: Joseph Geni
Reviewer: Morton Bast

What I want you all to do right now

is to think of this mammal that I’m going to describe to you.

The first thing I’m going to tell you about this mammal

is that it is essential for our ecosystems to function correctly.

If we remove this mammal from our ecosystems,

they simply will not work.

That’s the first thing.

The second thing is that due to the unique sensory abilities

of this mammal, if we study this mammal,

we’re going to get great insight into our diseases

of the senses, such as blindness and deafness.

And the third really intriguing aspect of this mammal

is that I fully believe that the secret of everlasting youth

lies deep within its DNA.

So are you all thinking?

So,

magnificent creature, isn’t it?

Who here thought of a bat?

Ah, I can see half the audience agrees with me,

and I have a lot of work to do to convince the rest of you.

So I have had the good fortune for the past 20 years

to study these fascinating and beautiful mammals.

One fifth of all living mammals is a bat,

and they have very unique attributes.

Bats as we know them have been around on this planet

for about 64 million years.

One of the most unique things that bats do

as a mammal is that they fly.

Now flight is an inherently difficult thing.

Flight within vertebrates has only evolved three times:

once in the bats, once in the birds,

and once in the pterodactyls.

And so with flight, it’s very metabolically costly.

Bats have learned and evolved how to deal with this.

But one other extremely unique thing about bats

is that they are able to use sound

to perceive their environment. They use echolocation.

Now, what I mean by echolocation –

they emit a sound from their larynx out through their mouth

or through their nose. This sound wave comes out

and it reflects and echoes back off objects in their environment,

and the bats then hear these echoes

and they turn this information into an acoustic image.

And this enables them to orient in complete darkness.

Indeed, they do look very strange. We’re humans.

We’re a visual species. When scientists first realized

that bats were actually using sound to be able to fly

and orient and move at night, we didn’t believe it.

For a hundred years, despite evidence to show

that this is what they were doing, we didn’t believe it.

Now, if you look at this bat, it looks a little bit alien.

Indeed, the very famous philosopher Thomas Nagel

once said, “To truly experience an alien life form

on this planet, you should lock yourself inside a room

with a flying, echolocating bat in complete darkness.”

And if you look at the actual physical characteristics

on the face of this beautiful horseshoe bat,

you see a lot of these characteristics are dedicated

to be able to make sound and perceive it.

Very big ears, strange nose leaves, but teeny-tiny eyes.

So again, if you just look at this bat, you realize

sound is very important for its survival.

Most bats look like the previous one.

However, there are a group that do not use echolocation.

They do not perceive their environment using sound,

and these are the flying foxes.

If anybody has ever been lucky enough to be in Australia,

you’ve seen them coming out of the Botanic Gardens in Sydney,

and if you just look at their face, you can see

they have much, much larger eyes and much smaller ears.

So among and within bats is a huge variation

in their ability to use sensory perception.

Now this is going to be important for what I’m going

to tell you later during the talk.

Now, if the idea of bats in your belfry terrifies you,

and I know some people probably are feeling a little sick

looking at very large images of bats,

that’s probably not that surprising,

because here in Western culture,

bats have been demonized.

Really, of course the famous book “Dracula,”

written by a fellow Northside Dubliner Bram Stoker,

probably is mainly responsible for this.

However, I also think it’s got to do with the fact

that bats come out at night, and we don’t

really understand them. We’re a little frightened by things

that can perceive the world slightly differently than us.

Bats are usually synonymous with some type of evil events.

They are the perpetrators in horror movies,

such as this famous “Nightwing.”

Also, if you think about it, demons

always have bat wings, whereas birds, they typically –

or angels have bird wings.

Now, this is Western society, and what I hope to do tonight

is to convince you of the Chinese traditional culture,

that they perceive bats as

creatures that bring good luck, and indeed, if you walk

into a Chinese home, you may see an image such as this.

This is considered the Five Blessings.

The Chinese word for “bat” sounds like the Chinese word

for “happiness,” and they believe that bats

bring wealth, health, longevity, virtue and serenity.

And indeed, in this image, you have a picture of longevity

surrounded by five bats.

And what I want to do tonight is to talk to you

and to show you that at least three of these blessings

are definitely represented by a bat, and that if we study bats

we will get nearer to getting each of these blessings.

So, wealth – how can a bat possibly bring us wealth?

Now as I said before, bats are essential for our ecosystems

to function correctly. And why is this?

Bats in the tropics are major pollinators of many plants.

They also feed on fruit, and they disperse the seeds

of these fruits. Bats are responsible for pollinating

the tequila plant, and this is a multi-million dollar industry

in Mexico. So indeed, we need them

for our ecosystems to function properly.

Without them, it’s going to be a problem.

But most bats are voracious insect predators.

It’s been estimated in the U.S., in a tiny colony

of big brown bats, that they will feed

on over a million insects a year,

and in the United States of America, right now

bats are being threatened by a disease known as white-nose syndrome.

It’s working its way slowly across the U.S. and wiping out

populations of bats, and scientists have estimated

that 1,300 metric tons of insects a year are now

remaining in the ecosystems due to the loss of bats.

Bats are also threatened in the U.S.

by their attraction to wind farms. Again, right now

bats are looking at a little bit of a problem.

They’re going to – They are very threatened

in the United States of America alone.

Now how can this help us?

Well, it has been calculated that if we were to remove bats

from the equation, we’re going to have to then use

insecticides to remove all those pest insects

that feed on our agricultural crops.

And for one year in the U.S. alone, it’s estimated

that it’s going to cost 22 billion U.S. dollars,

if we remove bats. So indeed, bats then do bring us wealth.

They maintain the health of our ecosystems,

and also they save us money.

So again, that’s the first blessing. Bats are important

for our ecosystems.

And what about the second? What about health?

Inside every cell in your body lies your genome.

Your genome is made up of your DNA,

your DNA codes for proteins that enable you to function

and interact and be as you are.

Now since the new advancements in modern molecular technologies,

it is now possible for us to sequence our own genome

in a very rapid time and at a very, very reduced cost.

Now when we’ve been doing this, we’ve realized

that there’s variations within our genome.

So I want you to look at the person beside you.

Just have a quick look. And what we need to realize

is that every 300 base pairs in your DNA, you’re a little bit different.

And one of the grand challenges right now

in modern molecular medicine is to work out

whether this variation makes you more susceptible to diseases,

or does this variation just make you different?

Again, what does it mean here? What does this variation

actually mean? So if we are to capitalize on all of this

new molecular data and personalized genomic information

that is coming online that we will be able to have

in the next few years, we have to be able to differentiate

between the two. So how do we do this?

Well, I believe we just look at nature’s experiments.

So through natural selection, over time,

mutations, variations that disrupt the function of a protein

will not be tolerated over time.

Evolution acts as a sieve. It sieves out the bad variation.

And so therefore, if you look at the same region

of a genome in many mammals that have been

evolutionarily distant from each other

and are also ecologically divergent, you will get a better

understanding of what the evolutionary prior of that site is,

i.e., if it is important for the mammal to function,

for its survival, it will be the same

in all of those different lineages, species, taxa.

So therefore, if we were to do this,

what we’d need to do is sequence that region

in all these different mammals and ascertain if it’s the same

or if it’s different. So if it is the same,

this indicates that that site is important for a function,

so a disease mutation should fall within that site.

So in this case here, if all the mammals that we look at

have a yellow-type genome at that site,

it probably suggests that purple is bad.

This could be even more powerful if you look at mammals

that are doing things slightly differently.

So say, for example, the region of the genome

that I was looking at was a region that’s important for vision.

If we look at that region in mammals that don’t see so well,

such as bats, and we find that bats that don’t see so well

have the purple type, we know that this is probably

what’s causing this disease.

So in my lab, we’ve been using bats to look at two different

types of diseases of the senses.

We’re looking at blindness. Now why would you do this?

Three hundred and fourteen million people are visually impaired, and

45 million of these are blind. So blindness is a big problem,

and a lot of these blind disorders come from inherited diseases,

so we want to try and better understand

which mutations in the gene cause the disease.

Also we look at deafness. One in every 1,000

newborn babies are deaf, and when we reach 80,

over half of us will also have a hearing problem.

Again, there’s many underlying genetic causes for this.

So what we’ve been doing in my lab

is looking at these unique sensory specialists, the bats,

and we have looked at genes that cause blindness

when there’s a defect in them,

genes that cause deafness when there’s a defect in them,

and now we can predict which sites are most likely to cause disease.

So bats are also important for our health,

to enable us to better understand how our genome functions.

So this is where we are right now,

but what about the future?

What about longevity?

This is where we’re going to go, and as I said before,

I really believe that the secret of everlasting youth

lies within the bat genome.

So why should we be interested in aging at all?

Well, really, this is a picture drawn from the 1500s

of the Fountain of Youth. Aging is considered

one of the most familiar, yet the least well-understood,

aspects of all of biology, and really,

since the dawn of civilization, mankind has sought to avoid it.

But we are going to have to understand it a bit better.

In Europe alone, by 2050, there is going to be

a 70 percent increase of individuals over 65,

and 170 percent increase in individuals over 80.

As we age, we deteriorate, and this deterioration

causes problems for our society, so we have to address it.

So how could the secret of everlasting youth actually lie

within the bat genome? Does anybody want to hazard

a guess over how long this bat could live for?

Who – put up your hands – who says two years?

Nobody? One? How about 10 years?

Some? How about 30?

How about 40? Okay, it’s a whole varied response.

This bat is myotis brandtii. It’s the longest-living bat.

It lived for up to 42 years,

and this bat’s still alive in the wild today.

But what would be so amazing about this?

Well, typically, in mammals there is a relationship

between body size, metabolic rate,

and how long you can live for, and you can predict

how long a mammal can live for given its body size.

So typically, small mammals live fast, die young.

Think of a mouse. But bats are very different.

As you can see here on this graph, in blue,

these are all other mammals, but bats

can live up to nine times longer than expected

despite having a really, really high metabolic rate,

and the question is, how can they do that?

There are 19 species of mammal that live longer

than expected, given their body size, than man,

and 18 of those are bats.

So therefore, they must have something within their DNA

that ables them to deal with the metabolic stresses,

particularly of flight. They expend three times more energy

than a mammal of the same size,

but don’t seem to suffer the consequences or the effects.

So right now, in my lab, we’re combining

state-of-the-art bat field biology, going out and catching

the long-lived bats, with the most up-to-date,

modern molecular technology to understand better

what it is that they do to stop aging as we do.

And hopefully in the next five years, I’ll be giving you a TEDTalk on that.

Aging is a big problem for humanity,

and I believe that by studying bats, we can uncover

the molecular mechanisms that enable mammals

to achieve extraordinary longevity. If we find out

what they’re doing, perhaps through gene therapy,

we can enable us to do the same thing.

Potentially, this means that we could halt aging or maybe even reverse it.

Just imagine what that would be like.

So really, I don’t think we should be thinking of them

as flying demons of the night, but more as our superheroes.

And the reality is that bats can bring us so much benefit

if we just look in the right place. They’re good for our ecosystem,

they allow us to understand how our genome functions,

and they potentially hold the secret to everlasting youth.

So tonight, when you walk out of here and you look up

in the night skies, and you see this beautiful flying mammal,

I want you to smile. Thank you. (Applause)

译者:Joseph Geni
审稿人:Morton Bast

我想让你们现在做的

是想想我要向你们描述的这种哺乳动物。

关于这种哺乳动物,我要告诉你的第一件事

是,它对我们的生态系统正常运作至关重要。

如果我们将这种哺乳动物从我们的生态系统中移除,

它们将根本无法工作。

这是第一件事。

第二件事是,由于这种哺乳动物独特的感官

能力,如果我们研究这种哺乳动物,

我们将深入了解我们

的感官疾病,例如失明和耳聋。

这种哺乳动物的第三个真正有趣的方面

是,我完全相信,永葆青春的秘密

深藏在它的 DNA 中。

所以大家都在想吗?

所以,

伟大的生物,不是吗?

谁想到了蝙蝠?

啊,我可以看到一半的观众同意我的观点

,我还有很多工作要做才能说服其他人。

所以在过去的 20 年里

,我有幸研究了这些迷人而美丽的哺乳动物。

五分之一的现存哺乳动物是蝙蝠

,它们具有非常独特的属性。

我们所知道的蝙蝠在这个星球上已经存在

了大约 6400 万年。

蝙蝠作为哺乳动物所做的最独特的事情之一

就是它们会飞。

现在飞行本来就是一件很困难的事情。

脊椎动物的飞行只进化了三次:

一次是蝙蝠,一次是鸟类

,一次是翼龙。

因此,对于飞行来说,它的代谢成本非常高。

蝙蝠已经学会并进化了如何处理这个问题。

但是蝙蝠的另一件非常独特的事情

是它们能够使用声音

来感知周围环境。 他们使用回声定位。

现在,我所说的回声定位是什么意思——

它们从喉咙发出声音,

通过嘴巴或鼻子发出。 这种声波出来

后会反射并从环境中的物体回声,

然后蝙蝠会听到这些回声,

并将这些信息转化为声学图像。

这使他们能够在完全黑暗中定向。

确实,它们看起来确实很奇怪。 我们是人类。

我们是视觉物种。 当科学家们第一次

意识到蝙蝠实际上是利用声音来实现

夜间飞行、定向和移动时,我们并不相信。

一百年来,尽管有证据

表明他们正在这样做,但我们并不相信。

现在,如果你看看这只蝙蝠,它看起来有点陌生。

的确,著名哲学家托马斯·内格尔(Thomas Nagel)

曾经说过:“要真正体验这个星球上的外星生命形式

,你应该把自己锁在一个房间里

,里面有一只飞行的、回声定位的蝙蝠,完全黑暗。”

如果你看看

这只美丽的马蹄蝠脸上的实际物理特征,

你会发现很多这些特征都是

为了能够发出声音和感知它。

非常大的耳朵,奇怪的鼻叶,但很小的眼睛。

所以再一次,如果你只看这只蝙蝠,你就会意识到

声音对于它的生存非常重要。

大多数蝙蝠看起来像以前的蝙蝠。

但是,有一组不使用回声定位。

他们不通过声音感知周围的环境

,这些就是狐蝠。

如果有人有幸来到澳大利亚,

你会看到他们从悉尼植物园出来

,如果你只看他们的脸,你会发现

他们的眼睛大得多,耳朵小得多。

因此,在蝙蝠之间和内部

,它们使用感官知觉的能力存在巨大差异。

现在,这对于我

稍后将在演讲中告诉你的内容很重要。

现在,如果你的钟楼里有蝙蝠的想法让你感到害怕,

而且我知道有些人可能会在

看到非常大的蝙蝠图像时感到有点恶心,

这可能并不奇怪,

因为在西方文化中,

蝙蝠被妖魔化了。

真的,当然,

北区都柏林人布拉姆·斯托克(Bram Stoker)写的著名著作《德古拉》(Dracula)

可能主要负责这一点。

然而,我也认为这与

蝙蝠在晚上出来的事实有关,我们并不

真正了解它们。 我们

对能够感知世界的事物与我们略有不同感到有点害怕。

蝙蝠通常是某种邪恶事件的代名词。

他们是恐怖电影的肇事者,

比如这部著名的《夜翼》。

另外,如果你想一想,恶魔

总是有蝙蝠的翅膀,而鸟类,它们通常——

或者天使有鸟的翅膀。

现在,这是西方社会,我今晚希望做的

是让你相信中国的传统文化

,他们认为蝙蝠

是带来好运的生物,事实上,如果你

走进一个中国人的家,你可能会看到一个 像这样的图像。

这被认为是五福。

“蝙蝠”的中文单词听起来像

“幸福”的中文单词,他们认为蝙蝠

带来财富、健康、长寿、美德和宁静。

事实上,在这张图片中,你有一张

被五只蝙蝠包围的长寿图片。

今晚我想做的就是和你谈谈

,向你展示,

蝙蝠肯定代表了这些祝福中的至少三个,如果我们研究蝙蝠,

我们将更接近获得这些祝福中的每一个。

那么,财富——蝙蝠怎么可能给我们带来财富呢?

正如我之前所说,蝙蝠对于我们的生态系统

正常运作至关重要。 这是为什么?

热带地区的蝙蝠是许多植物的主要传粉者。

它们也以水果为食,并散播

这些水果的种子。 蝙蝠负责为

龙舌兰酒植物授粉,这是墨西哥价值数百万美元的产业

。 因此,确实,我们需要它们

才能使我们的生态系统正常运行。

没有他们,这将是一个问题。

但大多数蝙蝠是贪婪的昆虫捕食者。

据估计,在美国,在一小

群棕色大蝙蝠中,它们每年会

以超过一百万只昆虫为食,

而在美利坚合众国,

蝙蝠正受到一种被称为白鼻病的威胁 综合征。

它正在美国缓慢地传播并消灭

蝙蝠种群,科学家估计

,由于蝙蝠的消失,现在每年有 1,300 公吨昆虫

留在生态系统中。

蝙蝠在美国也

因其对风电场的吸引力而受到威胁。 同样,现在

蝙蝠正在寻找一个小问题。

他们将要– 仅

在美利坚合众国,他们就受到很大威胁。

现在这对我们有什么帮助?

好吧,据计算,如果我们

要从等式中去除蝙蝠,我们将不得不使用

杀虫剂来去除

以我们的农作物为食的所有害虫。

仅在美国一年,如果我们移除蝙蝠

,估计将花费 220 亿美元

。 的确,蝙蝠确实给我们带来了财富。

它们维护了我们生态系统的健康

,也为我们节省了资金。

再说一遍,这是第一个祝福。 蝙蝠

对我们的生态系统很重要。

第二个呢? 健康呢?

在你身体的每一个细胞里都有你的基因组。

你的基因组由你的 DNA 组成,

你的 DNA 编码蛋白质,使你能够发挥作用

、相互作用并保持现状。

现在,由于现代分子技术的新进展,

我们现在可以

在非常快的时间内以非常非常低的成本对我们自己的基因组进行测序。

现在,当我们这样做时,我们已经

意识到我们的基因组中存在变异。

所以我想让你看看你身边的人。

快速浏览一下。 我们需要意识到的

是,你的 DNA 中每 300 个碱基对,你就有一点不同。

现代分子医学目前面临的重大挑战之一

是弄清楚

这种变异是否会让你更容易患疾病,

或者这种变异只会让你与众不同?

再说一遍,这里是什么意思? 这种变化

实际上意味着什么? 因此,如果我们要利用所有这些

新的分子数据和即将上线的个性化基因组信息

,我们将

在未来几年内拥有这些信息,我们必须能够

区分这两者。 那么我们该怎么做呢?

好吧,我相信我们只看大自然的实验。

因此,通过自然选择,随着时间的推移

,破坏蛋白质功能的突变和变异

将不会随着时间的推移而被容忍。

进化就像一个筛子。 它筛选出不良的变化。

因此,如果您查看

许多哺乳动物基因组的同一区域,这些哺乳动物在

进化上彼此相距遥远,

并且在生态上也存在分歧,您将更好地

了解该位点的进化先验是什么,

即,如果 哺乳动物的功能很重要,

为了生存,它

在所有这些不同的谱系、物种、分类群中都是相同的。

因此,如果我们要这样做,

我们需要做的是

对所有这些不同哺乳动物的那个区域进行测序,并确定它是相同

的还是不同的。 因此,如果相同,

则表明该位点对功能很重要,

因此疾病突变应落在该位点内。

所以在这种情况下,如果我们观察到的所有哺乳动物

在该位点都有黄色基因组,

这可能表明紫色是不好的。

如果你看看做事略有不同的哺乳动物,这可能会更强大

比如说

,我正在观察的基因组区域是一个对视力很重要的区域。

如果我们观察看不太清楚的哺乳动物(

例如蝙蝠)的那个区域,我们发现看不太清楚的蝙蝠

有紫色类型,我们知道这可能

是导致这种疾病的原因。

所以在我的实验室里,我们一直在用蝙蝠来观察两种不同

类型的感官疾病。

我们正在研究失明。 现在你为什么要这样做?

3.14亿人视力受损,其中

4500万人失明。 所以失明是个大问题

,很多这些失明疾病都来自遗传病,

所以我们想尝试更好地了解

基因中的哪些突变导致了这种疾病。

我们也看看耳聋。 每 1000 个新生婴儿中就有一个

是耳聋,当我们达到 80 岁时,

超过一半的人还会有听力问题。

同样,这有许多潜在的遗传原因。

所以我们在我的实验室里一直在研究

这些独特的感官专家,蝙蝠

,我们研究了

当它们有缺陷时会导致失明的

基因,当它们有缺陷时会导致耳聋的基因

,现在 我们可以预测哪些部位最有可能引起疾病。

所以蝙蝠对我们的健康也很重要

,它使我们能够更好地了解我们的基因组是如何运作的。

这就是我们现在所处的位置,

但未来呢?

长寿呢?

这就是我们要去的地方,正如我之前所说,

我真的相信永葆青春的秘诀

在于蝙蝠基因组。

那么我们为什么要对衰老感兴趣呢?

嗯,真的,这是一张取自

1500 年代青春之泉的照片。 衰老被认为

是所有生物学中最熟悉但最不为人所知的

方面之一,实际上,

自从文明诞生以来,人类就一直在努力避免它。

但我们将不得不更好地理解它。

仅在欧洲,到 2050 年,

65 岁以上的人口将增加 70%,

80 岁以上的人口将增加 170%。

随着年龄的增长,我们会恶化,这种恶化

会给我们的社会带来问题,所以我们必须 解决它。

那么,永葆青春的秘密怎么可能真的存在

于蝙蝠基因组中呢? 有人想

冒险猜测这只蝙蝠能活多久吗?

谁——举手——谁说两年?

没有人? 一? 10年怎么样?

一些? 30个怎么样?

40个怎么样? 好吧,这是一个完全不同的反应。

这只蝙蝠是myotis brandtii。 这是寿命最长的蝙蝠。

它的寿命长达 42 年

,今天这种蝙蝠还活着在野外。

但这有什么了不起的呢?

嗯,通常情况下,在哺乳动物中,

体型、代谢率

和你能活多久之间存在关系,你可以预测

哺乳动物在给定体型的情况下能活多久。

所以通常情况下,小型哺乳动物活得快,死得早。

想想老鼠。 但是蝙蝠就很不一样了。

正如你在这张图上看到的,蓝色的,

这些都是其他哺乳动物,但是蝙蝠

的寿命是预期的九倍,

尽管它们的新陈代谢率非常非常高

,问题是,它们怎么能做到这一点? 考虑到体型,

有 19 种哺乳动物的寿命

比人类预期的要长,

其中 18 种是蝙蝠。

因此,他们的 DNA 中必须有一些东西能够让

他们应对新陈代谢压力,

尤其是飞行压力。 它们消耗的能量

是同等体型的哺乳动物的三倍,

但似乎没有受到后果或影响。

所以现在,在我的实验室里,我们正在将

最先进的蝙蝠野外生物学、外出

捕捉长寿蝙蝠与最新的

现代分子技术相结合,以更好地

了解它是什么 是他们像我们一样阻止衰老。

希望在接下来的五年里,我会给你一个关于这个的 TED 演讲。

衰老是人类面临的一个大问题

,我相信通过对蝙蝠的研究,我们可以

揭示使

哺乳动物获得超常寿命的分子机制。 如果我们发现

他们在做什么,也许通过基因治疗,

我们可以让我们做同样的事情。

潜在地,这意味着我们可以停止衰老甚至逆转它。

想象一下那会是什么样子。

所以说真的,我认为我们不应该将它们

视为夜空中的恶魔,而应该将它们视为我们的超级英雄。

而现实情况是,只要我们找对地方,蝙蝠就能给我们带来很多好处

。 它们对我们的生态系统有好处,

它们使我们能够了解我们的基因组是如何运作的,

并且它们可能掌握着永葆青春的秘密。

所以今晚,当你走出这里,抬头

仰望夜空,看到这只美丽的飞行哺乳动物,

我希望你微笑。 谢谢你。 (掌声)