The question of consent for intersex people

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hello everyone

so essentially intersex people are

individuals whose

hormones chromosomes and body types

don’t fit a typical what we may call

male or female body

and these people aren’t rare per se they

make up

up to 150 people in the uk which is

higher than the number of ginger people

and people with green eyes

and ultimately these individuals are

subjected to what i may call

a very specific type of abuse

essentially whilst other people in the

lgbt community we might even say

uh have sort of the freedom to express

that or choose their preferred gender

ultimately intersex people are stripped

of the

uh stripped of this right through

through medically unnecessary corrective

corrective surgeries these surgeries

ultimately

aim to change the body types of intersex

people to conform to a male or female

body

and this is done to children as young as

as young as infants against their will

and these surgeries have even been

likened by the un and the world health

organizations to

other abusive practices such as female

genital mutilation

and ultimately this leaves intersex

people the silent majority of the queer

community

because whilst other queer people are

able to

as i mentioned relish in their true

gender intersex people

um don’t have the opportunity to choose

theirs instead that

and instead theirs is chosen to them by

essentially by essentially a surgical

scalpel

and essentially theirs is chosen to them

by

by a surgical scalpel and

many many walk through life completely

unaware of their intersex identity

with many with many surgeons having

deprived them of this knowledge

telling the pet telling the parents to

sort of conceal this what they call

a shape this shameful secret and many

intersex people only finding out about

this until well into adulthood

and the sheer number of intersex people

that exist

in the uk makes us wonder how many are

still hiding in the shadows

now ultimately what’s important to

acknowledge when we talk about this

issue

is that these surgeries aren’t actually

predominantly performed in developing

what we may call like culturally behind

countries in the global south

in fact the countries that are most

likely to pursue them

are people most likely to pursue them

are living in the west right now

so take for example in 2015 zimbabwe

created a task force to attempt to sort

of

eliminate these surgeries a practice

which only one western country malta has

successfully banned

and ultimately western nations try their

best to sort of

justify their complicity in what many

may call these human rights abuses

by arguing that these surgeries are a

way to sort of save intersex people from

leading a lonely life

of insecurity and discrimination many

people in the west

sort of condemn the marginalization and

the violence that a lot of intersex

people are subjected to in the global

self for example but

simultaneously uphold these medical

practices

because they see removing the

unconventional nature of intersex

people’s bodies as a sort of humane

gesture

to help them assimilate michaela rabb

for example was a german intersex woman

who when she sued her doctors for

performing surgery on her without a

consent the doctor said in court

that they’ve as a defense that they were

merely trying to save her

from the social discrimination that she

would have faced had she kept her sort

of

convention her unconventional intersex

body as they described

and this all highlights how a lot of

people or suggest how a lot of people in

the west view

the loss of intersex people’s identity

as sort of

a small price to pay for a lifetime of

what they

see as integration and not being

ostracized and seen as freakish or other

however assimilation is not acceptance

and

nor is it nor has it ever been been the

solution

so take so if we take for example

firstly the assimilation that does come

about from these surgeries

does not guarantee the great quality of

life that a lot of

these western nations are say are

claiming it does for example a lot of

intersex people who do undergo surgery

they a lot of them still face routine

discrimination

as well as the additional trauma of

potentially

developing a gender that doesn’t align

with the sex they were assigned during

surgery

but even disregarding this and assuming

that these surgeries are able to give

intersex people the wonderful good

quality of life

that they that they dream of ultimately

they still

they still at the end of the day place

society

parents and ultimately societies

discomforted feelings and

concerns and prejudices about intersex

people

above the child’s welfare take for

example

a lot of anti-lgbt people try to

disguise their prejudice and opposition

to the queer community

as a sort of preservation attempt to

uphold science and what they call

facts over felix a very common time

that’s been used but ultimately

i would i would incredibly question that

because surely forcing an intersex child

with an other otherwise natural body to

conform to an otherwise

unnatural and artificial idea of what

the normal or standard body should look

like

isn’t that the epitome of prioritizing

feelings in this case society’s feelings

regarding

intersex people above facts or in the

facts as as well as most importantly the

child’s welfare

when has assimilation ever been the

answer to oppression

do we demand to this extent that

therefore

gay people should try to hide their

sexuality to avoid discrimination

and if you say no then i question why we

should subject

intersex people to the same type of can

of conform conforming for conforming for

example

um conforming for example um

for example for for a society that for a

society that frankly

for a society that frankly places

society’s feelings above the child’s

welfare needs to critically think

rethink its concern for children now

that being said

you people watching this right now might

question well what can i do

in my everyday life to try to prevent

this um like i’m a small individual

compared to a big government that has

the power to actually

reform these laws and change them and

get rid of these

get rid of these non-consensual

surgeries but i believe that you as an

individual can do a lot

and i urge you as an individual to

question the ideas that

you have about consent because i i say

this because i believe

that the way we talk and look at consent

with regards to children

is incredibly important to trying to

tackle this issue of these surgeries

and the reason and the reason being is

that

um the reason being is that the way we

talk about consent

especially in schools is predominantly

limited

to consent in sex for example in sex ed

and that means that what’s left a lot

out of these discussions

is ultimately how consent relates to

children’s

children and their personal boundaries

for example

there were a bunch of studs a bunch of

stuff a variety of studies have

have shown that a lot of parents have

never asked

or like asked their children if they

were comfortable with physical contact

and this spurred the uk government 2018

to introduce

um consent classes in schools for

children to teach children as young as

four about personal boundaries

and ultimately these in classes spurred

black backlash amongst

a lot of parents who saw them as an

attempt by the government

by the government to try to police what

they say police the way they were

raising their children

and all raising their children

ultimately

this does suggest that a lot of parents

sort of don’t see or understand the

importance of

children learning about personal

boundaries and personal boundaries and

consent

and the reason why that is incredibly

important when we’re talking about

surgeries on

intersex minors is that children who

grow up to think that

ultimately consent is non-essential that

take for example if a parent or a

relative

cooks for them brings them a gift that

they’re entitled to a hug or physical

contact that the child would otherwise

not want

or that the child isn’t entitled to

their own personal boundaries however

young

will go these children will go on to

become adults who condone these

surgeries lawmakers who uphold them and

surgeons who

who perform them insurgents who perform

them

this issue of these surgeries is

inextricably linked

to a culture that sort of trivializes

the idea of consent in children

erases children’s agency over their body

and assumes parents the government and

doctors complete complete control and

doctors complete control

control over it and

complete control over it that being that

being said i urge everyone watching this

right now

to question their ideas about consent

maybe potentially potentially try to

change old patterns

um with how you interact with your ch

with children

how you teach them about personal

boundaries that before you would have

seen as harmless but

now you understand may send the wrong

message because i believe

i believe that whilst the government

sure has loads of power to reform these

surgeries i believe that it’s only

through us as individuals to create

small patterns and actions in our

everyday lives that we can truly tackle

this

this large issue thank you so much for

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大家

好,所以本质上,双性人是

荷尔蒙染色体和体型

不符合我们所谓的

男性或女性身体的典型个体

,这些人本身并不罕见,他们

在英国多达 150 人 这

比姜人和绿眼睛的人的数量还要多

,最终这些人

受到了我所谓的

一种非常特殊的虐待,

而在 lgbt 社区中的其他人,

我们甚至可以说,

呃有某种自由

表达或选择他们喜欢的性别

最终双性人被剥夺

通过医学上不必要的矫正

矫正手术剥夺了这个权利 这些手术

最终

旨在改变双性人的身体类型

以适应男性或女性的

身体

,这已经完成 对小

至小至婴儿的孩子

,这些手术甚至

被联合国和世界比作他 alth

组织对

其他虐待行为(例如

切割女性生殖器)的态度

,最终这使双性

人成为酷儿社区中沉默的大多数,

因为虽然其他酷儿

能够

像我提到的那样津津乐道于他们真正的

性别双性人,但他们

没有机会 选择

他们的,

而不是他们的选择,基本上是通过外科手术刀选择给他们的,而他们的选择

基本上是通过外科

手术刀选择给他们

许多人在生活中完全

不知道他们的双性人身份

,许多外科医生

剥夺了他们 这些知识

告诉宠物告诉父母

隐瞒这个他们所谓

的形状这个可耻的秘密,许多双性

直到成年才发现这

一点,而英国存在的双性人数量之多

让我们想知道 现在有多少人

仍然躲在阴影

中最终什么对交流很重要

当我们谈论这个问题时的知识

是,这些手术实际上并不是

主要在发展

我们所谓的文化落后

于全球南方国家时进行的

,事实上,最

有可能追求它们的国家是

最有可能追求它们的人。

现在生活在西方,

所以以 2015 年为例,津巴布韦

成立了一个工作组,试图在某种程度上

消除这些手术

,只有一个西方国家马耳他

成功禁止了这种做法

,最终西方国家

尽最大努力

为他们的同谋辩护 许多人

可能会称这些侵犯人权行为

是因为他们争辩说这些手术是

一种使双性人免于

上不安全和歧视的孤独生活的一种方式

西方许多人在

某种程度上谴责

许多双性

人的边缘化和暴力 例如,在全球自我中受到影响,

同时坚持这些医疗

实践,

因为 他们认为消除双

性人身体的非传统性质

是一种人道

姿态,

以帮助他们同化 michaela

rabb 例如,她是一名德国双性人女性

,当她起诉医生

未经同意对她进行手术时

,医生在法庭上

说 他们辩称,他们

只是想把她

从社会歧视中拯救出来,

如果她按照他们所描述的那样保持她那种

非传统的双性人身体的惯例,她就会面临这种社会歧视

,这一切都突显了很多

人或暗示如何 西方很多人

认为失去双性人的身份

他们所

认为的融合而不被

排斥和被视为怪诞或其他的一生付出的小代价,

但是同化不是接受

也不是,也不是 它是否曾经是

解决方案

,所以如果我们首先采取例如

这些手术

确实产生的同化并不能保证

很多西方国家都

声称他们的生活质量很高,例如很多

接受手术的双性人

他们中的很多人仍然面临着常规的

歧视

以及

潜在

的性别发展带来的额外创伤 这

与他们在手术期间被分配的性别不一致,

但即使忽略这一点,并

假设这些手术能够为双性

人提供他们梦寐以求的美好

生活质量

,最终

他们仍然处于结束状态 日间

社会

父母和最终社会 对双性人的

不满情绪、

担忧和偏见

凌驾于儿童的福利之上,

例如,许多反 LGBT 人士试图

掩饰他们对酷儿社区的偏见和反对

以此作为维护科学的一种保护尝试

以及他们所说的

关于 felix 的事实,这是一个非常常见的时间

,但最终

我会我会 令人难以置信的问题是,

因为肯定会迫使双性人儿童

与其他自然的身体

符合正常或标准身体应该

是什么样子的其他不自然和人为的想法,这

不是在这种情况下优先考虑感受的缩影

社会对双性人的

感受 人们高于事实或

事实以及最重要的是

儿童的福利

当同化曾经是

压迫的答案时,

我们是否要求到这种程度,

因此

同性恋者应该试图隐藏他们的

性取向以避免歧视

,如果你说不,那么 我质疑为什么我们

应该让双性

人接受同样类型

的顺从例如

嗯顺从例如嗯

例如对于一个社会来说对于一个

坦率地说

对于一个坦率地将

社会的感受置于儿童福利之上的

社会 既然有人说你 p,需要批判性地思考

重新考虑它对孩子的关注

现在看到这个的人可能会

质疑

我在日常生活中可以做些什么来防止

这种情况

发生 这些

摆脱了这些未经同意的

手术,但我相信您作为

个人可以做很多事情

,我敦促您作为个人

质疑您对同意的想法,

因为我这样说是因为我

相信我们说话的方式和 查看

关于儿童的同意对于试图

解决这些手术的这个问题非常重要

,原因和原因是

嗯,原因是我们谈论同意的方式,

特别是在学校里,主要

限于

性同意 例如在性教育中

,这意味着

这些讨论中留下的很多内容

最终是同意与

孩子的

孩子及其个人界限之间的关系

,例如

,我们 重新一堆螺柱一堆

东西各种研究

表明,很多父母

从未问过

或喜欢问过他们的孩子是否

对身体接触感到满意

,这促使英国政府 2018 年

在学校引入了同意课程 让

孩子们教

四岁的孩子关于个人界限

,最终这些在课堂上激起

了许多父母的强烈反对,他们认为这是

政府试图

通过政府试图监管

他们所说的监管他们的

抚养方式 他们的孩子

和所有抚养孩子的人

最终确实表明,很多父母

都没有看到或理解

孩子学习个人

界限和个人界限和

同意

重要性,以及当我们谈话时这非常重要的原因 关于双性

人未成年人的手术是,那些

长大后认为

最终同意是不必要的

孩子 例如,如果父母或亲戚

为他们做饭给他们送礼物,

他们有权获得孩子不想要的拥抱或身体

接触,

或者孩子无权享有

自己的个人界限,无论多么

年轻 去吧,这些孩子将继续

成为成年人 纵容这些

手术 支持他们的立法者和

执行他们的外科医生 执行

这些手术的叛乱分子 这个问题

与一种文化密不可分

机构对他们的身体

并假设父母政府和

医生完全控制,

医生完全控制

控制并

完全控制它,话

虽如此,我敦促现在观看这个节目的每个人

质疑他们关于同意的想法

可能有可能尝试

改变 旧模式

嗯,你如何与孩子互动 你

如何教他们关于 perso

在你之前

认为是无害的但

现在你理解的最终界限可能会发出错误的

信息,因为我相信

我相信虽然政府

肯定有很多权力来改革这些

手术,但我相信只有

通过我们作为个人来创造

小模式 和我们

日常生活中的行动,我们可以真正解决

这个大问题,非常感谢你

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