Building ecosystems for innovation and social good

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an introduction um grace

which is the founder and ceo of revel

innovation

rebel innovation builds and design

programs for organizations that better

the world

so grace 2011 you spoke about social

entrepreneurship back then

and you were just starting impact hub so

10 years on

is this where you think you would be

yeah

wow so 10 years ago i was 10 years

younger

10 years more optimistic tedx singapore

was really special

it was really that talk and that video

that captured the essence of what i was

set out to do for the next 10 years

the first four years so from i would say

2012 to 2016

it was very much around ecosystem

building and

creating a market that did not exist it

was

educating people explaining to people

what are startups

right what is social entrepreneurship

people didn’t know that these

things were in fashion at that time and

people didn’t know that it was going to

be the future and my litmus test

is always to talk to a taxi driver right

if they can answer you what

you know what a startup is then you know

that it has been mainstreamed

i remember having had to have 400

conversations even before

having the courage to really start the

hub and

right now if you ask a grab driver or

taxi driver

they they can’t tell you what what the

startup is you know they can

quote local champions winners like

carousel

shopback or grab and you know 10 years

ago

none of them were as successful or even

existed yet

from 2016 onwards the ecosystem has

matured a lot

and there were a lot more actors coming

in

you know people have all found their

roles the government

knew how much to do what not so much to

do um the investors were all coming in

you’re definitely a pioneer in uh you

know the social entrepreneurship scene

can you just share with us some insights

so how do you think it has progressed

social entrepreneurship you know to

to those who don’t know i i define it

simply and it was also in my

bio during the first tedx talk you know

it’s the combination of having the heart

of mother theresa and the brain of

richard branson

right that was popularized by my mentor

um almost second mom a pioneer in the

global social entrepreneurship pamela

had pamela hartigan so these these

profiles of individuals right having the

heart of mother teresa and the brains of

richard branson they they form a very

niche market they they were at the

sidelines they were the mavericks they

were

the rebels they were the crazy ones

um but i’m glad to say that 10 years on

this is no longer a niche

industry social entrepreneurship impact

investing it has grown to become

a 31 trillion asset under management

world right and in 10 years by 10 years

now

it’s now became mainstream you see a lot

more

pension funds all the way to

investment funds all the way to

corporates and small startups of one to

ten people

integrating um a wider purpose that is

beyond themselves and beyond returning

um shareholder gains to including

stakeholder gains to including

the you know the tree piece right profit

people and

planet to measuring more than one bottom

line to measuring double bottom line

sometimes triple bottom line

and so that has became a mainstream

movement now

are we there yet i don’t think so i i

still think we have a couple more years

to go

where the taxi driver is able to to

explain

what a social entrepreneur or what a

triple bottom line is

but the big guys the allocators of funds

have definitely embraced it and that is

a very very positive sign

given the pandemic situation how do you

think this has impacted uh

the the social entrepreneurship scene

has he accelerated anything

or caused more stumbling blocks what’s

your take on that

i think research has shown enough that

responsible companies who are part of

communities who

are responsible towards their

stakeholders

have performed better during a pandemic

and

the demand for social entrepreneurial

solutions

market-driven solutions from impact

ventures sustainability ventures have

totally

increased during the pandemic you know i

think it is

really the pure sort of traditional

selfish

capitalistic myopic kind of companies

that have

perhaps been tested during the pandemic

and i always feel that is crisis like

that that

you know give everyone a chance to

re-imagine their purpose to reflect

on what is their role in the business

community sure but also

as a global citizen pandemics are not

equitable

it always affects the marginalized

communities more as we have seen in

singapore

it always affects the low-income

communities more

so more and more we have seen companies

who are again have welcomed the pandemic

as a wake-up call

to be more inclusive to be more

equitable

and to be more global in that sense

grace in all your 10 years

i’m personally very curious as well what

was

the most difficult decision that you’ve

you had to make the most difficult

decision

by far would be you know during a

consolidation phase in my industry back

in 2018

where we have had a couple of

acquisition offers

oh yeah that would mean a

semi-retirement for me

that would mean joining a bigger company

and you know just maybe have to work for

another one to three years and you know

you’re off

and so those were those were offers that

i’ve

taken seriously and i have gone to

shanghai and here to learn about the

potential acquirers company culture

management

business model but after that process

and that journey i’ve just

realized that they were going to not be

a cultural fit and they were not going

to extend

um or continue the mission of the

behind the work that i’ve been doing and

therefore i walked away

for vote from both and my friends my

other entrepreneur friends were saying

like are you crazy rarely do people walk

away from

acquisition offers but i would not have

forgiven myself

for taking those with the social

impact ecosystem growing and expanding

i’m sure we would also see a lot of the

next generation the younger generation

wanting to be part of this ecosystem as

well and you know

yourself as well um you have a 19 month

old

girl baby girl so just wondering from

your point of view you know what are

some words of advice

that you would give to the younger

generation um

that would want to be part of this

ecosystem moving forward

wow the younger generation is the

world’s best hope

in repairing the world and improving it

so my short word of advice is be

demanding be demanding ask for what you

want

ask for the better versions of products

and services that have been offered to

you

at first i thought it was a cliche when

people say that

oh once you have children your

you will get a different perspective on

the world you will

place purpose and impact and and doing

good a lot higher because you’re gonna

do it for them

right i thought it was just a cliche but

i’ve really experienced firsthand

how having a daughter really

accelerated my my commitment

a lot more even to going back to impact

work and and

and really doubling down on that you

know when when i talk about

bottom-up work and bottom-up ecosystem

then that generation is is what i mean

they are the reason they are the core

for it

you know large companies large fmcg

companies

large investment banks they are not

doing good for the world because a

government said so they are not

doing it primarily because of tax

rebates they are doing it because the

younger generation will not buy from

them

if they are not responsible corporate

actors

if they destroy the planet if they

are unfair to their equals um

to their communities and their

stakeholders

younger generations of wealthy families

and wealthy businesses will not go to a

bank

that practices unethical behavior

that that siphons of money to left and

right

so it is the younger generation that

will

be the new north star of how corporates

behave

it is really them who will dictate and

determine

what new generation of products and

services

of food of non-meat food

right that will be produced at scale

because it is them

who will be the new budget holders

purchasing power

and everything else so i am super super

excited and so optimistic

to see what they will demand of

the the people in power yeah and

i think it can only be better than

all our hundreds of years before

you

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] 介绍 um Grace

,它是 revel Innovation rebel 的创始人兼首席执行官

,为改善世界的组织创新构建和设计计划,

所以 Grace 2011 那时你谈到了社会

企业家精神

,你刚刚开始影响中心,所以

10 年后

是 这就是你认为你会成为的地方,

是的,

哇,所以 10 年前我

年轻了

10 岁,更乐观了 10 岁 tedx

新加坡真的很特别

,真的是那个谈话和那个视频

抓住了我接下来要做的事情的精髓

10

年 前四年 所以从

2012 年到 2016

年,主要是围绕生态系统

建设和

创造一个不存在的市场,它

正在

教育人们向人们解释

什么是初创公司,

对什么是社会企业家精神,

人们不知道 这些

东西当时很流行,

人们不知道它会

成为未来,我的试金石

总是与出租车司机交谈,对

吧 如果他们能回答你

你知道什么是创业公司,那么你就

知道它已经成为主流

我记得在有勇气真正开始创业之前,我必须进行 400 次

对话

如果你现在问一个抓

车司机或出租车司机

他们不能告诉你这家

初创公司是什么你知道他们

可以引用本地冠军赢家的话,比如

carousel

shopback 或 grab 你知道 10 年前

他们都没有那么成功,甚至

从 2016 年起还没有存在过,生态系统已经

成熟了很多

还有更多的演员进来

你知道人们都找到了自己的

角色政府

知道做多少事情不做太多

投资人都进来了

你绝对是呃你

知道社会企业家精神的先驱 场景

你能和我们分享一些

见解吗?你认为它是如何推动

社会

企业家精神的 第一次 tedx 演讲,你知道

是我的导师,

嗯,几乎是第二个妈妈,

全球社会企业家精神的先驱

帕梅拉有帕梅拉·哈蒂根,所以这些

个人资料是正确的 拥有特蕾莎修女的

心和理查德布兰森的

头脑 他们形成了一个非常

利基市场 他们在

场边 他们是特立独行 他们

是叛逆者 他们是疯狂的人

嗯,但我很高兴地说,10 年后

这不再是一个利基

行业 社会企业家精神影响

投资 它已经发展成为

管理世界的 31 万亿资产

,在 10 年到 10 年的时间里,

它现在已经成为主流,你会看到

越来越多的

养老基金一直到

投资基金

一到十个人的企业和小型创业公司的道路,

整合了一个更广泛的目标,

超越了他们自己,也超越了返回

um 的股东 r 包括

利益相关者的收益

包括你知道的树块 正确的利润

人和

地球 衡量一个以上的

底线 衡量双重底线

有时是三重

底线 所以这已经成为一种主流

运动,

现在我们在那里但我不知道 不这么

认为我仍然认为我们还有几年的

时间

去出租车司机能够

解释

什么是社会企业家或什么是

三重底线

但资金分配者的大人物

肯定已经接受了它,那就是

鉴于大流行情况,这是一个非常积极的信号,您

认为这

对社会创业领域有何

影响,他是否加速了任何事情

或造成了更多的绊脚石

在大流行

对社会创业

解决方案的需求期间,对利益相关者负责的人表现更好

来自 Impact Ventures 的以市场为导向的解决方案

可持续性企业

在大流行期间完全增加了你知道的,我

认为这

真的是纯粹的那种传统

自私的

资本主义短视的公司

可能在大流行期间受到了考验

,我总是觉得这就像危机

你知道,这让每个人都有机会

重新想象他们的目的,以

反思他们在商界中的作用,

当然,但

作为一个全球公民,流行病并不

公平,

它总是会

更多地影响边缘化社区,正如我们在新加坡看到的那样

总是

越来越多地影响低收入社区

,我们看到越来越多的

公司再次欢迎大流行,这

是一个警钟

,要更加包容,更加

公平

,更加全球化,

在你所有的 10 多年来

我个人也很好奇

你做过的最艰难的决定是什么

你必须做出最艰难的

决定

到目前为止,您是否知道在 2018

年我所在行业的整合阶段

,我们收到了一些

收购要约,

哦,是的,这

对我

来说意味着半退休,这意味着加入一家更大的公司

,您知道也许必须 再工作

一到三年,你知道

你已经离开了

,所以那些是

认真对待的提议,我已经去

上海和这里了解

潜在的收购者公司文化

管理

商业模式,但在那个过程之后

那段旅程我刚刚

意识到他们将不

适合文化,他们不会

延长或继续

我一直在做的工作背后的使命,

因此我

离开了双方的投票 和我的朋友们 我的

其他企业家朋友

都说你疯了

翼和扩展

我相信我们也会看到很多

下一代年轻一代也

希望成为这个生态系统的

一部分,你也很了解

自己,嗯,你有一个 19 个月

大的

女婴,所以只是想知道

你的 观点 你

知道你会给年轻

一代

什么建议 忠告

要求 要求 要求

你想要什么 以不同的视角

看待世界,你

会赋予目标和影响力,并且

做得更好,因为你

会为他们做

对的,我认为这只是陈词滥调,但

我真的第一次经历过 以及

如何拥有一个女儿真的

加速了我的承诺,

甚至更多地回到影响

工作,

并且真的加倍努力

当我谈论

自下而上的工作和自下而上的生态系统时

,那一代就是 我的意思是

他们是他们成为核心的原因

你知道大公司大快消品

公司

大投资银行他们没有

为世界做好事因为

政府说所以他们不

这样做主要是因为

退税他们这样做是因为 如果他们不是负责任的企业行为者,

年轻一代不会从

他们

那里购买 如果他们

对平等的人不公平

对他们的社区和

利益相关者不公平,如果他们破坏地球,

年轻一代的富裕家庭

和富裕企业不会去

银行

不道德的

行为会左右吸金,

因此年轻一代

成为企业如何运作的新北极星

表现

出真正是他们将决定并

决定将大规模生产哪些非肉类食品权的新一代食品和服务,

因为

他们将成为新的预算持有者

购买力

和其他一切,所以我是 超级超级

兴奋和如此乐观

地看到

他们对当权者的要求是的,

我认为它只能比

你之前的数百年更好