3 ways to create a space that moves you from a Broadway set designer David Korins

You’re sitting there,

and it’s incredibly frustrating.

It’s maddening.

You’ve been sitting there for hours,

filling in those little tiny circles
with your No. 2 pencil –

this is a standardized test.

You look up, half-erased chalkboard,

you can see that perfectly
written cursive alphabet,

the pull-down maps,

you can hear, tick, tick, tick, ticking
on the wall, that industrial clock.

But most importantly, you can feel
that oppressive fluorescent light,

that death ray over your head.

Bzzzzzz.

And you can’t take it anymore,
but you don’t have to,

because Miss Darling says,
“OK, boys and girls, you’re done.”

So you jump up – I mean, there is nothing
left of you but a vapor trail.

You move so quickly, you slam
that little molded plastic chair,

and you sprint down the hallway;

you go past the Lysol smell
and the BO smell and the cubbies,

and you push the door –

(Inhales deeply)

and finally, you’re outside.

Oh, you can feel the wind on your face,

then the sun on your skin

and most importantly, the big blue sky.

That is a revelation of space.

Making revelations of space is what I do;
I’m a designer and creative director,

and that’s what I do for a living.

I do it for all sorts of people
in all kinds of different ways,

and it might seem
complicated, but it’s not.

And over the next couple of minutes,
I’m going to give you three ways

that I think you can
move through your world

so that you, too, can make revelations
of space, or at least reveal them.

Step one: therapy.

I know, I know, I know: blah, blah, blah,
New Yorker, blah, blah, blah, therapy.

But seriously, therapy – you have to know
why you’re doing these things, right?

When I got the job
of designing “Hamilton,”

I sat with Lin-Manuel Miranda, writer,

Tommy Kail, director, and I said,

“Why are we telling
this 246-year-old story?

What is it about the story
that you want to say,

and what do you want people to feel like
when they experience the show?”

It’s important. When we get that,
we move into step two: the design phase.

And I’ll give you
some little tricks about that,

but the design phase is important
because we get to make these cool toys.

I reach into Lin’s brain,
he reaches into mine,

this monologue becomes a dialogue.

And I make these cool toys,

and I say, “Does this world
look like the world

that you think could be a place
where we could house your show?”

If the answer is yes –
and when the answer is yes –

we move into what I think
is the most terrifying part,

which is the execution phase.

The execution phase is when
we get to build this thing,

and when this conversation goes
from a few people to a few hundred people

now translating this idea.

We put it in this beautiful little thing,

put it in the “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids”
super-sizer machine

and blow it up full-scale,

and we never know if we did it right

until we show up onstage and go,
“Is it OK? Is it OK?”

Here’s the thing:

you don’t have to be Lin,

you don’t have to have a book
that you want to turn into a show

in order to do this in your real life.

You’re already starring in a show,
by the way. It’s called your life.

Congratulations. (Laughter)

But seriously, Shakespeare said it:
“All the world’s a stage.”

He nailed that part.

What he screwed up royally
was that part where he said,

“And we are merely players.”

It’s ridiculous. We’re not merely players.

We are the costume designers
and the lighting designers

and the makeup artists in our own world,

and I want to get you to think about
being the set designer in your world.

Because I think you can leave here
if you do these three steps

and a couple of little tricks,
as I said, I’m going to tell you,

and you can begin to change the world

the way you want to.

You want to do it?

OK. Everybody write a show.

(Laughter)

No. Just kidding.

OK. Step one: therapy. Right?

How are you feeling?

That’s what the therapist says:
“How are you feeling today?”

It’s important to remember that,
because when we design the world for you,

the therapy is important.

It tells you that emotion
is going to become light and color.

A good example of that light and color

is a show I designed called
“Dear Evan Hansen.”

(Cheers)

“Dear Evan Hansen” exists – oh my God –

“Dear Evan Hansen” exists in a world
of almost all light and color.

So I chose a color: inky-black darkness.

(Laughter)

Inky-black darkness is a color
the way that sadness is an emotion.

And this show transforms people,
but not before it wrecks people.

I bet you’re wondering, “How expensive
could the set possibly be to transform you

if you sit for two hours and 20 minutes

in inky-black darkness?”

The answer is: cheap!

Inky-black darkness,

turn the lights on at the right time.

Seriously, think about leaving
Miss Darling’s class.

Inky-black darkness gives way
at the right moment,

we fly away that wall and reveal
a beautiful blue sky.

It blows people away
and it transports them,

and it makes them feel hopeful.

And we know this because color is emotion,

and when you paint with color,
you’re painting with feelings.

So think about that emotion, the one I had
you file away in your mental Rolodex.

What color is it?

Where in your wardrobe does it exist,
and where in your home does it exist?

When we design the show for you,

we’re going to use that color
to tell you how you feel in certain times.

But also, you know this exists
because you put the hero in white,

you put the lead character in red,
you put the villain in all black.

It’s typecasting. You know that.

So think about it.

But there’s also something else
that happens in the world

that helps us move through
the world in a safe way.

They’re called architectural standards.

They make us not fall down and go boom.

Doorknobs are all at the same height.
Light switches are all at the same height.

Toilet bowls are always –
thank God – at the same height,

because no one ever
misses the toilet bowl.

But seriously,

what would happen if we started
to tweak those architectural standards

to get what we wanted?

It reminds me of the stairs
I made for Pee-Wee Herman.

Pee-Wee Herman is a child,

and his entire world is created
so that we perceive Pee-Wee as a child.

The architecture and the furniture
and everything come to life,

but nothing more important
than those stairs.

Those stairs are 12 inches high,

so when Pee-Wee clomps
up and down those stairs,

he interacts with them like a kid.

You can’t fake that kind of interaction,

and that’s the exact opposite
of what we ask people in opera to do.

In opera, we shrink those stairs

so that our main characters
can glide up and down effortlessly

without ever breaking their voice.

You could never put an opera singer
in Pee-Wee’s Playhouse,

(Sings in Pee-Wee’s voice)
or they wouldn’t be able to do their job.

(Laughter)

But you couldn’t put Pee-Wee
in an opera set.

He couldn’t climb
up and down those stairs.

There’d be no Pee-Wee.

He’d be like James Bond slinking
elegantly up and down the stairs.

It wouldn’t work.

(Laughter)

Now think of your set, your home,
what you exist in every single day.

If you’re anything like me,
the trash can is just too small

for the amount of takeout
that you buy every night, right?

And I find myself jamming
like I’m kneading dough at a pizza place,

I’m jamming it in
because I don’t understand.

Or, maybe the light switch in your foyer

is just stashed behind too many
precariously placed coats,

and so you don’t even go for it.

Therefore, day after day,

you wind up walking in and out
of a chasm of darkness.

(Laughter)

It’s true.

But what would happen if the space
revealed something about yourself

that you didn’t even know?

Kanye never told me specifically
that he wanted to be God.

But –

(Laughter)

when we started working together,
we were sending images back and forth,

and he sent me a picture
of the aurora borealis

with lightning strikes through it.

And he sent me pictures
from a mountaintop looking down

at a smoke-filled canyon,

or smoke underneath
the surface of water –

like, epic stuff.

So the first set I designed for him
was a huge light box

with the name of his record label.

He would stand triumphantly
in front of it,

and it would flash lights
like a lightning bolt.

And it was epic, but, like,
starter-kit epic.

We moved on to a large swath of sky
with a tear down the middle,

and through the tear, you could see
deep parts of the cosmos.

Getting closer.

We evolved to standing
on top of an obelisk,

standing on top of a mountainside,
standing on top of boxes.

You know, he was evolving
as an artist through space,

and it was my job to try and keep up.

When we did Coachella,

there he was,

standing in front of an 80-foot-wide
by 40-foot-tall ancient artifact,

literally handed down from God to man.

He was evolving,
and we were all witness to it.

And in his last show,
which I didn’t design but I witnessed,

he had self-actualized.

He was literally standing
on a floating plexiglass deck

over his adoring fans,

who had no choice but to praise
to Yeezus up above.

(Laughter)

He had deified himself.

You can’t become Yeezus
in your living room.

The space told him
who he was about himself,

and then he delivered that to us.

When I was 20 years old,

I was driving through a parking lot,
and I saw a puddle.

I thought, “I’m going to veer to the left.
No – I’m going through it.”

And I hit the puddle, and – ffftt! –
all the water underneath my car,

and instantly, I have an aha moment.

Light bulb goes off.

Everything in the world
needs to be designed.

I mean, I’m sure I was thinking,
“The drainage needs to be designed

in this parking lot.”

But then I was like, “Everything
in the world needs to be designed.”

And it’s true: left to its own devices,

Mother Nature isn’t going to carve
an interesting or necessarily helpful path

for you.

I’ve spent my career
reaching into people’s minds

and creating worlds out here
that we can all interact with.

And yeah, you might not get
to do this with fancy collaborators,

but I think if you leave here,
those three easy steps –

therapy, who do I want to be,
why do I do the things that I do;

design, create a plan and try
and follow through with it,

what can I do;

execute it –

I think if you add that
with a little color theory –

(Laughter)

some cool design choices and a general
disrespect for architectural standards,

you can go out

and create the world
that you want to live in,

and I am going to go home
and buy a new trash can.

Thank you.

(Applause)

你坐在那里

,这令人难以置信的沮丧。

真让人抓狂。

你已经坐在那里好几个小时了,

用你的 2 号铅笔填满那些小圆圈——

这是一个标准化的测试。

你抬起头,擦了一半的黑板,

你可以看到完美
书写的草书字母

,下拉地图,

你可以听到,滴答,滴答,滴答,滴答
,墙上的那个工业时钟。

但最重要的是,你能感觉到
那令人窒息的荧光灯,

那道死亡射线从你的头顶掠过。

呸呸呸。

你不能再忍受了,
但你不必,

因为达林小姐说,
“好吧,男孩和女孩,你们已经完成了。”

所以你跳了起来——我的意思是,
除了一条蒸汽痕迹,你什么都没有留下。

你移动得如此之快,你猛地撞上
那把模制塑料小椅子,

然后你冲进了走廊;

你经过 Lysol 气味
、BO 气味和小房间,

然后推门——

(深吸一口气

)最后,你到了外面。

哦,你可以感觉到脸上的风,

然后是皮肤上的阳光

,最重要的是,大蓝天。

那是空间的启示。

揭示空间是我的工作;
我是一名设计师和创意总监

,这就是我的谋生之道。

我以各种不同的方式为各种各样的人做这件事

,它可能看起来很
复杂,但事实并非如此。

在接下来的几分钟里,
我将给你

三种我认为你
可以穿越你的世界的方式,

这样你也可以
揭示空间,或者至少揭示它们。

第一步:治疗。

我知道,我知道,我知道:废话,废话,废话,
纽约客,废话,废话,废话,治疗。

但说真的,治疗——你必须知道
你为什么要做这些事情,对吧?

当我得到
设计“汉密尔顿”的工作时,

我和作家林曼努尔米兰达

、导演汤米凯尔坐在一起,我说:

“我们为什么要讲述
这个 246 年的故事?

你想说

,你希望
人们在体验演出时有什么感觉?”

这一点很重要。 当我们得到这个,
我们进入第二步:设计阶段。

我会给你
一些小技巧,

但设计阶段很重要,
因为我们可以制作这些很酷的玩具。

我伸进林的大脑,
他伸进我的大脑,

这段独白变成了对话。

我制作了这些很酷的玩具,

然后我说,“
这个世界看起来像

你认为
我们可以容纳你的节目的世界吗?”

如果答案是肯定的
——当答案是肯定的时候——

我们进入我
认为最可怕的部分,

即执行阶段。

执行阶段是当
我们开始构建这个东西时

,当这个对话
从几个人变成现在的几百人时,我们

正在翻译这个想法。

我们把它放在这个漂亮的小东西里,

把它放在“亲爱的,我把孩子们缩小了”的
超大尺寸机器里,

然后把它完全炸开,直到我们出现在舞台上

,我们才知道我们做得对不对


“没事吧?没事吧?”

事情是这样的:

你不必是林,

你不必为了在现实生活中做这件事而拥有一
本想要变成表演

的书。 顺便说一句

,你已经主演了一个
节目。 这叫做你的生活。

恭喜。 (笑声)

但严肃地说,莎士比亚说:
“整个世界都是一个舞台。”

他确定了那部分。

他把王室搞砸的
是他说的那部分,

“我们只是球员。”

这太荒谬了。 我们不仅仅是玩家。

我们是我们自己世界中的服装设计师
、灯光设计师

和化妆师,

我想让你考虑
成为你世界中的布景设计师。

因为我认为
如果你完成这三个步骤

和几个小技巧,你就可以离开这里,
正如我所说,我要告诉你

,你可以开始以

你想要的方式改变世界。

你想做吗?

行。 每个人都写一个节目。

(笑声)

不,开个玩笑。

行。 第一步:治疗。 对?

你感觉怎么样?

这就是治疗师所说的:
“你今天感觉如何?”

记住这一点很重要,
因为当我们为您设计世界时

,治疗很重要。

它告诉你,
情绪会变成光和颜色。

我设计的一个名为
“亲爱的埃文汉森”的节目就是一个很好的例子。

(欢呼声)

“亲爱的埃文汉森”存在——哦,我的上帝——

“亲爱的埃文汉森”存在于一个
几乎所有光和颜色的世界。

所以我选择了一种颜色:墨黑色。

(笑声)

漆黑的黑暗是一种
颜色,就像悲伤是一种情绪一样。

这个节目改变了人们,
但不是在它破坏人们之前。

我敢打赌你会想,“

如果你在漆黑的黑暗中坐了两个小时 20 分钟

,这套装置要改变你的身体可能有多贵?”

答案是:便宜!

漆黑的黑暗,

在正确的时间打开灯。

说真的,想想离开
达林小姐的班级吧。

漆黑的黑暗
在适当的时候让位,

我们飞离那堵墙,
露出美丽的蓝天。

它把人们吹走
并运送他们

,让他们感到充满希望。

我们知道这一点,因为颜色就是情感

,当你用颜色
绘画时,你就是在用感觉绘画。

所以想想那种情绪,我让
你在你的精神通讯录中归档的那种情绪。

它是什么颜色?

它存在于你衣橱的什么地方,
又存在于你家的什么地方?

当我们为您设计节目时,

我们将使用该颜色
来告诉您在某些时候的感受。

而且,你知道这是存在的,
因为你把英雄穿成白色

,把主角穿成红色
,把恶棍穿成黑色。

这是类型转换。 你知道的。

所以想想吧。

但是世界上还
发生了一些其他事情

,可以帮助我们
以安全的方式穿越世界。

它们被称为架构标准。

它们使我们不会跌倒并繁荣。

门把手都在同一高度。
电灯开关都在同一高度。

马桶总是——
感谢上帝——在同一个高度,

因为没有人会
错过马桶。

说真的,如果我们
开始调整这些架构标准

以获得我们想要的东西会发生什么?

它让我想起了
我为 Pee-Wee Herman 做的楼梯。

Pee-Wee Herman 是一个孩子

,他的整个世界都是为了
让我们将 Pee-Wee 视为一个孩子而创造的。

建筑、家具
和一切都栩栩如生,

但没有什么
比那些楼梯更重要了。

这些楼梯有 12 英寸高,

所以当 Pee-Wee
上下楼梯时,

他会像孩子一样与他们互动。

你不能伪造那种互动,

这与
我们要求歌剧中的人们做的完全相反。

在歌剧中,我们缩小了这些楼梯,

以便我们的主角
可以毫不费力地上下滑行

而不会破坏他们的声音。

你永远不能让一个歌剧歌手
进入 Pee-Wee 的剧场

(用 Pee-Wee 的声音唱歌),
否则他们将无法完成他们的工作。

(笑声)

但是你不能把 Pee-Wee
放在歌剧布景里。

他不能
爬上爬下那些楼梯。

不会有小便。

他会像詹姆斯邦德一样
优雅地上下楼梯。

它行不通。

(笑声)

现在想想你的场景,你的家,
你每天都存在的东西。

如果你和我一样
,垃圾桶

对于你每晚买的外卖量来说太小了
,对吧?

我发现自己
像在比萨饼店揉面团一样卡住,

我卡住是
因为我不明白。

或者,也许你门厅的电灯开关

只是藏在太多
不稳定的外套后面

,所以你甚至不去买它。

因此,日复一日,

你最终在
黑暗的鸿沟中进进出出。

(笑声)

这是真的。

但是,如果空间
揭示了一些

你甚至不知道的关于你自己的事情,会发生什么?

Kanye 从未明确告诉我
他想成为上帝。

但是——

(笑声)

当我们开始合作时,
我们来回发送图像

,他给我发了一张北极光的照片
,上面

有闪电。

他从山顶上给我发了照片
,俯视

着烟雾弥漫的峡谷,

或者
水面下的烟雾——

就像史诗般的东西。

所以我为他设计的第一套
是一个巨大的灯箱,上面

写着他的唱片公司的名字。

他会得意洋洋
地站在它面前

,它会
像闪电一样闪光。

这是史诗般的,但是,就像
入门套件史诗一样。

我们继续前进到一大片天空
,中间有一道裂痕

,透过裂痕,你可以看到
宇宙的深处。

越来越近。

我们进化到
站在方尖碑上,

站在山坡上,
站在箱子上。

你知道,他正在
通过空间发展成为一名艺术家,

而我的工作就是努力跟上。

当我们制作科切拉音乐节时

,他就

站在一个 80 英尺宽
、40 英尺高的古代神器前,它

是从上帝传给人类的。

他在进化
,我们都见证了这一点。

在他的最后一场演出中
,我没有设计但我亲眼目睹,

他已经自我实现了。

他真的
站在一个漂浮的有机玻璃甲板

上,顶着崇拜他的粉丝,

他们别无选择,只能
向上面的 Yeezus 表扬。

(笑声)

他把自己神化了。

你不能成为
客厅里的 Yeezus。

空间
告诉他他是谁,

然后他将其传递给我们。

当我 20 岁的时候,

我开车经过一个停车场
,我看到了一个水坑。

我想,“我要转向左边。
不——我正在经历它。”

我撞到了水坑里,然后——ffftt! -
我车底下的所有水

,瞬间,我有一个哈哈的时刻。

灯泡熄灭。

世界上的一切都
需要设计。

我的意思是,我确定我在想,
“这个停车场需要设计排水系统

。”

但后来我想,“
世界上的一切都需要设计。”

这是真的:任凭它自己,

大自然母亲不会为你开辟
一条有趣或必然有用的

道路。

我的职业生涯一直在
深入人们的思想

并在这里
创造我们都可以与之互动的世界。

是的,你可能不会
和花哨的合作者一起做这件事,

但我认为如果你离开这里,
那三个简单的步骤——

治疗,我想成为谁,我
为什么要做我所做的事情;

设计,制定计划并尝试

执行,我能做什么;

执行它——

我想如果你
加上一点色彩理论——

(笑声)

一些很酷的设计选择和
对建筑标准的普遍不尊重,

你可以

出去创造
你想要生活的世界

,我是 打算
回家买一个新的垃圾桶。

谢谢你。

(掌声)