How to train employees to have difficult conversations Tamekia MizLadi Smith

We live in a world
where the collection of data

is happening 24 hours a day,
seven days a week,

365 days a year.

This data is usually collected by
what we call a front-desk specialist now.

These are the retail clerks
at your favorite department stores,

the cashiers at the grocery stores,

the registration specialists
at the hospital

and even the person that sold you
your last movie ticket.

They ask discreet questions, like:
“May I please have your zip code?”

Or, “Would you like to use
your savings card today?”

All of which gives us data.

However, the conversation
becomes a little bit more complex

when the more difficult questions
need to be asked.

Let me tell you a story, see.

Once upon a time, there was
a woman named Miss Margaret.

Miss Margaret had been
a front-desk specialist

for almost 20 years.

And in all that time, she has never,
and I do mean never,

had to ask a patient their gender,
race or ethnicity.

Because, see, now Miss Margaret
has the ability to just look at you.

Uh-huh.

And she can tell
if you are a boy or a girl,

black or white, American or non-American.

And in her mind,
those were the only categories.

So imagine that grave day,

when her sassy supervisor invited her
to this “change everything” meeting

and told her that would have to ask
each and every last one of her patients

to self-identify.

She gave her six genders,
eight races and over 100 ethnicities.

Well, now, Miss Margaret was appalled.

I mean, highly offended.

So much so that she marched down
to that human-resource department

to see if she was eligible
for an early retirement.

And she ended her rant by saying

that her sassy supervisor invited her
to this “change everything” meeting

and didn’t, didn’t, even, even

bring, bring food, food, food, food.

(Laughter)

(Applause) (Cheers)

You know you’ve got to bring food
to these meetings.

(Laughter)

Anyway.

(Laughter)

Now, that was an example
of a healthcare setting,

but of course, all businesses
collect some form of data.

True story: I was going
to wire some money.

And the customer service
representative asked me

if I was born in the United States.

Now, I hesitated to answer her question,

and before she even realized
why I hesitated,

she began to throw the company
she worked for under the bus.

She said, “Girl, I know it’s stupid,
but they makin' us ask this question.”

(Laughter)

Because of the way she presented it to me,

I was like, “Girl, why?

Why they makin' you ask this question?

Is they deportin' people?”

(Laughter)

But then I had to turn on
the other side of me,

the more professional
speaker-poet side of me.

The one that understood that there were
little Miss Margarets all over the place.

People who were good people,
maybe even good employees,

but lacked the ability
to ask their questions properly

and unfortunately, that made her look bad,

but the worst, that made
the business look even worse

than how she was looking.

Because she had no idea who I was.

I mean, I literally could have been
a woman who was scheduled to do a TED Talk

and would use her as an example.

Imagine that.

(Applause)

And unfortunately,

what happens is people would decline
to answer the questions,

because they feel like
you would use the information

to discriminate against them,

all because of how you presented
the information.

And at that point, we get bad data.

And everybody knows what bad data does.

Bad data costs you time,
it costs you money

and it costs you resources.

Unfortunately, when you have bad data,

it also costs you a lot more,

because we have health disparities,

and we have social determinants of health,

and we have the infant mortality,

all of which depends
on the data that we collect,

and if we have bad data,
than we have those issues still.

And we have underprivileged populations

that remain unfortunate
and underprivileged,

because the data that we’re using
is either outdated,

or is not good at all
or we don’t have anything at all.

Now, wouldn’t it be amazing
if people like Miss Margaret

and the customer-service
representative at the wiring place

were graced to collect data
with compassionate care?

Can I explain to you
what I mean by “graced?”

I wrote an acrostic poem.

G: Getting the front desk specialist
involved and letting them know

R: the Relevance of their role
as they become

A: Accountable for the accuracy
of data while implementing

C: Compassionate care within
all encounters by becoming

E: Equipped with the education
needed to inform people

of why data collection is so important.

(Applause)

Now, I’m an artist.

And so what happens with me

is that when I create
something artistically,

the trainer in me is awakened as well.

So what I did was, I began to develop
that acrostic poem into a full training

entitled “I’m G.R.A.C.E.D.”

Because I remember,
being the front-desk specialist,

and when I went to the office
of equity to start working,

I was like, “Is that why they asked us
to ask that question?”

It all became a bright light to me,

and I realized that I asked people
and I told people about –

I called them by the wrong gender,
I called them by the wrong race,

I called them by the wrong ethnicity,

and the environment became hostile,

people was offended and I was frustrated
because I was not graced.

I remember my computerized training,

and unfortunately, that training did not
prepare me to deescalate a situation.

It did not prepare me to have
teachable moments when I had questions

about asking the questions.

I would look at the computer and say,
“So, what do I do when this happens?”

And the computer would say …

nothing, because a computer
cannot talk back to you.

(Laughter)

So that’s the importance
of having someone there

who was trained to teach you
and tell you what you do

in situations like that.

So, when I created
the “I’m G.R.A.C.E.D” training,

I created it with that experience
that I had in mind,

but also that conviction
that I had in mind.

Because I wanted
the instructional design of it

to be a safe space
for open dialogue for people.

I wanted to talk about biases,

the unconscious ones
and the conscious ones,

and what we do.

Because now I know
that when you engage people in the why,

it challenges their perspective,
and it changes their attitudes.

Now I know that data
that we have at the front desk

translates into research that eliminates
disparities and finds cures.

Now I know that teaching people
transitional change

instead of shocking them into change

is always a better way
of implementing change.

See, now I know people are more likely
to share information

when they are treated with respect
by knowledgeable staff members.

Now I know that you
don’t have to be a statistician

to understand the power
and the purpose of data,

but you do have to treat people
with respect and have compassionate care.

Now I know that when you’ve been graced,

it is your responsibility
to empower somebody else.

But most importantly, now I know

that when teaching human beings

to communicate with other human beings,

it should be delivered by a human being.

(Applause)

So when y’all go to work

and y’all schedule that
“change everything” meeting –

(Laughter)

remember Miss Margaret.

And don’t forget the food, the food,
the food, the food.

Thank you.

(Applause) (Cheers)

Thank you.

(Applause)

我们生活在

一个每天 24 小时、
每周 7 天、

每年 365 天都在进行数据收集的世界。

这些数据通常由
我们现在所说的前台专家收集。

这些是
你最喜欢的百货公司的零售店员、

杂货店的收银员、医院

的登记专家

,甚至是卖给
你最后一张电影票的人。

他们会问一些谨慎的问题,例如:
“请问您的邮政编码可以吗?”

或者,“你今天想用
你的储蓄卡吗?”

所有这些都为我们提供了数据。

但是,当需要提出更难的问题时,对话
会变得有点复杂

给你讲个故事,看吧。

从前,有
一个女人叫玛格丽特小姐。

玛格丽特小姐做

了将近 20 年的前台专家。

在那段时间里,她从来没有
,我的意思是从来没有,

不得不问病人他们的性别、
种族或民族。

因为,看,现在玛格丽特小姐
有能力只看你一眼。

嗯。

她可以分辨出
你是男孩还是女孩、

黑人还是白人、美国人还是非美国人。

在她看来,
这些是唯一的类别。

因此,想象一下那个严重的日子,

当她那时髦的主管邀请她
参加这个“改变一切”的会议

并告诉她必须要求
她的每一位

病人自我认同时。

她给了她六种性别、
八种种族和 100 多个种族。

好吧,现在,玛格丽特小姐吓坏了。

我的意思是,非常冒犯。

以至于她
走到那个人力资源部门

,看看她是否有
资格提前退休。

她结束了她的咆哮,

说她那时髦的主管邀请她
参加这个“改变一切”的会议

,但没有,没有,甚至,甚至没有

带来,带来食物,食物,食物,食物。

(笑声)

(掌声) (欢呼声)

你知道你必须带食物
参加这些会议。

(笑声)

无论如何。

(笑声)

现在,这是一个医疗环境的例子

,当然,所有的企业都会
收集某种形式的数据。

真实故事:我
打算汇一些钱。

客服
代表

问我是不是出生在美国。

现在,我犹豫着回答她的问题,

而她甚至还没有意识到
我犹豫的原因,

就开始将
她工作的公司扔到公共汽车下面。

她说:“女孩,我知道这很愚蠢,
但他们让我们问这个问题。”

(笑声)

因为她向我展示的方式,

我想,“女孩,为什么?

他们为什么让你问这个问题

?他们是在驱逐人吗?”

(笑声)

但后来我不得不转向我
的另一面,

我更专业的
演说家和诗人的一面。

那个明白到处
都是小玛格丽特小姐的人。

那些是好人,
甚至是好员工,

但缺乏
正确提出问题的能力

,不幸的是,这让她看起来很糟糕,

但最糟糕的是,这
让公司看起来

比她看起来更糟糕。

因为她不知道我是谁。

我的意思是,我真的可以成为
一个预定做 TED 演讲的女人,

并以她为例。

想象一下。

(掌声

)不幸的

是,人们会
拒绝回答这些问题,

因为他们觉得
你会利用这些信息

来歧视他们,

这都是因为你
提供信息的方式。

在那一点上,我们得到了错误的数据。

每个人都知道不良数据的作用。

不良数据会耗费您的时间、
金钱

和资源。

不幸的是,当你有糟糕的数据时,

你也会付出更多的代价,

因为我们有健康差异,我们有健康的

社会决定因素

,我们有婴儿死亡率,

所有这些都
取决于我们收集的数据

,如果 我们有糟糕的数据
,但我们仍然有这些问题。

而且我们的弱势

群体仍然不幸
和弱势,

因为我们使用的数据
要么已经过时,

要么根本不好,
或者我们根本没有任何东西。

现在,
如果像玛格丽特小姐


接线处的客户服务代表这样的

人有幸以
富有同情心的关怀收集数据,那不是很神奇吗?

我能解释
一下我所说的“优雅”是什么意思吗?

我写了一首离合诗。

G:让前台专家
参与并让他们知道

R:他们成为角色时的相关性

A:
在实施时对数据的

准确性负责 C:
通过成为

E:配备必要的教育
来告知

人们为什么数据收集如此重要。

(掌声)

现在,我是一名艺术家。

所以发生在我身上的

是,当我在
艺术上创造一些东西时,

我内心的教练也被唤醒了。

所以我所做的是,我开始将
那首离合诗发展成一个完整的训练,

题为“我是 G.R.A.C.E.D.”。

因为我记得,
作为前台专家

,当我去
股权办公室开始工作时,

我想,“这就是他们让
我们问这个问题的原因吗?”

这一切对我来说都是一道亮光

,我意识到我问过人们
,我告诉过人们——

我用错误的性别称呼他们,
我用错误的种族

称呼他们,我用错误的种族

和环境称呼他们 变得充满敌意,

人们被冒犯了,我很沮丧,
因为我没有得到恩典。

我记得我的计算机化培训

,不幸的是,培训并没有
让我准备好缓和局势。

当我对提问有疑问时,它并没有让我准备好有可教的时刻

我会看着电脑说,
“那么,当这种情况发生时我该怎么办?”

电脑会说……

什么也不说,因为电脑
不能和你说话。

(笑声)

所以这
就是让

一个受过训练的人来教你
,告诉你

在这种情况下你会做什么的重要性。

因此,当我
创建“我是 G.R.A.C.E.D”培训时,

我是根据
我心中的经验以及我心中

的信念
来创建它的。

因为我希望它
的教学设计成为

人们公开对话的安全空间。

我想谈谈偏见

,无意识的
和有意识的,

以及我们所做的。

因为现在我
知道,当你让人们参与其中时,

它会挑战他们的观点,
并改变他们的态度。

现在我
知道我们在前台拥有的数据可以

转化为消除
差异并找到治疗方法的研究。

现在我知道,教人们
过渡性变革,

而不是让他们震惊地去改变,

这始终是实施变革的更好方式

看,现在我知道人们在

受到知识渊博的员工尊重时更有可能分享信息。

现在我知道,你
不必成为统计学家

就能理解数据的力量
和目的,

但你必须
尊重他人并富有同情心。

现在我知道,当你得到恩典时

,你有责任
赋予别人权力。

但最重要的是,现在我

知道,在教

人类与其他人交流时,

它应该由一个人来传递。

(掌声)

所以当你们都去上班

并安排
“改变一切”的会议时——

(笑声)

记住玛格丽特小姐。

不要忘记食物,食物
,食物,食物。

谢谢你。

(掌声)(干杯)

谢谢。

(掌声)