The story of a parents transition and a sons redemption Paula Stone and Jonathan Williams

Paula Stone Williams: So, I was the CEO
of a large, religious nonprofit,

spoke at some of the largest
churches in America,

was on television in 70 different markets,

but more than anything else,

I just wanted to be a good parent.

I told all three of my children,

“When the going gets tough,

you have to choose the road less traveled,

the narrow path.”

I had no idea how difficult
that was going to become.

I knew from the time I was three
or four years of age

that I was transgender.

I knew if I came out,
I would lose everything.

But the call toward authenticity is sacred

and for the greater good,

and it asks you to trust that the truth
not only sets you free,

it will set everyone free.

I decided to stake my life on it.

So I came out.

Turns out, if you spend most of your life

working in the conservative
religious world,

coming out as transgender
is not all that great for your career.

(Laughter)

Who knew?

(Laughter)

Within seven days, I lost
every single one of my jobs.

My family was supportive but struggling.

Most of my friends
and coworkers had rejected me;

the rest were confused.

One friend said,
“You really messed with me.”

I said, “Yeah, well, get in line.”

They said, “You were my only example
of an alpha male who was gentle.”

And I thought, “Oh. You’re right.”

I was an alpha male.

And I was gentle.

And if it was hard for him,

how much more difficult
was it for my own son?

Jonathan Williams: Estrangement
was not an option.

It was Father’s Day and my girls
brought me craft beer

and a homemade jar of pickles,
which, in my estimation,

is the perfect Father’s Day gift.

(Laughter)

But the question remained:

Do I call my own father?

To call him, and I continue down
this spiral of denial,

pretending that my dad was still –

well, my dad.

To not call was to acknowledge
that everything had changed.

It meant that I was in for years of pain
and mourning and sadness,

but ultimately, hope for reconciliation.

There’s no playbook for when one’s father
of 30 plus years decides to transition

to the female gender.

But my dad did teach me one thing.

He said the road to redemption always
comes from choosing the narrow path.

And so I decided not to call that day,

and a few months later, Paula flew
out and met me at a hotel in New York,

my wife and I.

I knocked on the door,
and this woman answered.

It definitely wasn’t my dad.

“It’s good to see you,” she said.

It didn’t sound like my dad, either.

We went to lunch, and the waiter
came to take our order.

He said, “Let’s start with the ladies,”

but there was only one lady
at the table and it was my wife,

and – oh my God, there are two
women at the table.

And my dad ordered something like lettuce,

and I was like, I have fries on my plate.

Did my dad like fries? I don’t remember.

I think he liked them.

But she wasn’t eating them.

Here’s this woman who knew
everything about me,

and I knew nothing about her.

I don’t even remember saying goodbye.

PSW: All I could think about that day

was that it was late
September in New York,

and I was wearing white jeans.

(Laughter)

You don’t wear white
after Labor Day in New York.

There was a knock at the door,

and all I could think about was,
here I stand in my wrong jeans.

And then I saw these big,
blue eyes I love so much,

and they were staring
back at me in disbelief.

And I thought, “Oh, this is not
going to be easy.”

When one person in a family transitions,

the entire family transitions
whether they want to or not.

Now, for those on the fringes it was easy.

The liberals said, “Oh, wonderful!

She’s found her truth, how delightful.”

And the conservatives said,
“That’s messed up, I’m out of here.”

(Laughter)

But for my family, neither extreme
was going to work.

Their anger, their hurt,

their love and loyalty –

all of it had to be brought
on to the road of trials.

JW: Was it all a lie?

Every game of catch in the front yard,
the Mets season tickets –

was that with my dad or was that with her?

I remember this one time,

my dad took me on a bike ride
through Heckscher Park

to teach me about sex.

He explained the parts of the body
that I now know he wished weren’t hers.

Had my father ever even existed?

Now, grief –

grief is without rules.

Grief borrows your car without asking,

wrecks it

and then doesn’t apologize.

And I was a wreck.

This was heavy.

I retreated into myself.

I was angry.

I felt betrayed.

And I guess I should have known

by the fact that you encouraged
me to be a Mets fan

that you were preparing me
for life’s really big disappointments.

(Laughter)

That’s true.

And yet, there were the games of catch,

and there were the season tickets

and bacon, egg and cheese
sandwiches every Saturday

from the best bagel place on Long Island.

My father lived this life
he didn’t want to live,

but he lived it so
that I could have a dad.

I stopped wondering
if my dad had ever existed.

He had existed – willfully,
consciously, intentionally –

each and every day of my growing up.

For that, I was thankful.

Paula’s body was hers now
and her transformation was complete,

but my transformation was just beginning.

I had another trial, another journey,
another choice to heed my father’s advice

and continue down that narrow path.

PSW: So most days
I believe there is a God.

Tuesdays and Thursdays can be tough,

and any day that you’re
on the New Jersey Turnpike.

I mean, really, you know?

(Laughter)

It’s hard to believe in God
when your soul is in the wrong body.

Still, somehow I ended up in ministry.

When I lost all my jobs,
it was nothing personal.

It’s what religious tribes do.

They believe an enemy is necessary
for the tribe to survive,

so where no enemy exists,

they create one.

Right now, sexual minorities
are the enemy;

my departure was swift and sure.

I was surprised when my son
left his job teaching in West Philadelphia

to go into the ministry.

I did not see that one coming.

And now I wondered:

What would he do?

I didn’t have to wait that long
to find an answer.

Six months after that first visit,

he invited me back to New York.

JW: The designers of the Brooklyn Bridge,

they had their share of bad luck.

John Roebling, he died shortly after
the bridge’s construction began.

His son Washington took over,

but he suffered
from decompression sickness.

His wife Emily became the surrogate
executive engineer

who oversaw the bridge’s completion.

Father and son,

John and Washington,

done in by their work.

It was this sunny day in May

and my father and I sat in the shadow
of that Brooklyn Bridge.

Would our lives follow the Roeblings' –

father and son, done in by our work?

My father thought
that her friends in church

would carry her through her transition,

and they did not.

They ditched her and they clung to me.

I was the pastor
of a new church in Brooklyn.

This wonderful group
of forward-thinking people,

and yet, we were financially tied
to really conservative churches.

To hold space for Paula meant jeopardizing
our own church’s livelihood.

I sort of straddled the line
between these warring worlds.

So I said to my dad,

“Dad, I still live and work
in your old world.

Is it possible that you might extend
an olive branch for my sake?”

And her response was impassioned.

You said to me, “Do you have
any idea what it feels like

to finally show yourself
to your true friends

and have them completely reject you?

To ask you to live a lie?

Do you know what that feels like?”

And I didn’t know what that felt like.

But I knew I had a decision to make.

It was the decision to continue
down that narrow path through nights,

but for the first time,

I caught a glimpse of light.

I cannot ask my father to be anything
other than her true self.

(Applause)

PSW: So as we sat by the river that day,

Jonathan talked about his pain,
his suffering, his grief, his confusion.

He brought all of himself
to that conversation,

and it tore at me

to be the cause of such pain.

But as he talked, there was something
redemptive going on,

full of tension but possibility,

grounded in that narrow path.

He said, “This is always going to be hard.

It always will be.

But Dad,

I love you.”

My son is the best of me and more.

He’s bold and strong,

sensitive and thoughtful.

I guess you could say,

he’s an alpha male who’s gentle.

JW: It was time for my daughters
to meet their – Paula.

We went back to my apartment,

and my daughters were coloring
at the dining room table,

and there was this awkward silence.

And finally, my youngest asked
a single, confident question.

“So, Grandpa, do you have a penis?”

(Laughter)

And after the tension abated
and the laughter subsided,

my girls took their grandpa
back into their room

and showed her their new toys,

and they christened her with a new name.

They called her “GrandPaula.”

(Laughter)

PSW: So this past summer, I had all five
of my granddaughters at my home,

there in the foothills
of the Rocky Mountains.

We went swimming
in the cool waters of the river

that flows through our little town.

And one day, one of Jonathan’s
girls said to me,

“GrandPaula, can we go
tubing on the river?”

And I said, “Well, you know,

I’d really wait until your daddy
gets here for that.

That feels to me like
that ought to be his call.”

And she said, “Oh, but GrandPaula,

he’ll exactly make the same
decision you would.

He’s a lot like you, you know.”

(Laughter)

And I thought, yeah, he is a lot like me,

both of us determined
to find the narrow path

and follow it through
the long, dark night,

all the way to the light of dawn.

JW: Have you ever noticed
that a child who is secure,

a child who knows love,

that child will dance?

They wave their arms,

they kick their legs to music
that only they can hear.

It’s the music of a child
who is safe and unharmed

and wholly loved.

The day after my children
met their GrandPaula,

she took them to go get doughnuts,

and I watched as they walked
down the street,

and my girls took my father’s arms,

and they danced.

My father’s arms swung wildly.

You bought them one too many doughnuts,
because you always do –

(Laughter)

I watched my older daughter
take a bite of her doughnut,

and she unleashed two jumps and a twirl.

It was perfect.

That narrow path,

it always has its share
of burdens and challenges.

But I was certain that we were going
to see this through to redemption.

I looked at my dad

and I looked at my girls who were dancing
and eating their doughnuts,

and I said aloud to no one in particular,

I said, “This …

this is how God sees my dad.”

My father was literally born again.

And by choosing the narrow
path of redemption,

I was born again with her.

Thank you.

(Applause and cheers)

Paula Stone Williams:所以,我
是一家大型宗教非营利组织的首席执行官,曾在美国

一些最大的教堂发表演讲,

在 70 个不同的市场上过电视,

但最重要的是,

我只想成为一个好父母。

我告诉我的三个孩子,

“当事情变得艰难时,

你必须选择人迹罕至的道路

,狭窄的道路。”

我不知道
这会变得多么困难。

从我
三四岁的时候起

,我就知道我是变性人。

我知道如果我出来,
我会失去一切。

但对真实性的呼唤是神圣的,

也是为了更大的利益

,它要求你相信真相
不仅让你自由,

它还会让每个人都自由。

我决定赌上我的生命。

于是我就出来了。

事实证明,如果你大部分时间

都在保守的宗教世界工作,那么

作为变性人出柜
对你的职业生涯并不是那么好。

(笑声)

谁知道?

(笑声)

在 7 天内,我失去了
每一份工作。

我的家人很支持但很挣扎。

我的大多数朋友
和同事都拒绝了我。

其余的人都很困惑。

一位朋友说:
“你真的惹我了。”

我说:“是的,好吧,排队。”

他们说,“你是我唯一
一个温柔的阿尔法男性的例子。”

我想,“哦。你是对的。”

我是一个阿尔法男性。

而我很温柔。

如果这对他来说很难

,对我自己的儿子来说更难吗?

乔纳森·威廉姆斯:
疏远不是一种选择。

那是父亲节,我的女儿们
给我带来了精酿啤酒

和一罐自制的泡菜
,在我看来,这

是完美的父亲节礼物。

(笑声)

但问题仍然存在:

我会打电话给我自己的父亲吗?

打电话给他,我
继续否认,

假装我爸爸还在——

嗯,我爸爸。

不打电话就是
承认一切都变了。

这意味着我多年来一直处于痛苦
、哀悼和悲伤之中,

但最终还是希望和解。

当一个
30 多年的父亲决定过渡

到女性时,没有任何剧本。

但我父亲确实教会了我一件事。

他说救赎之路总是
来自选择狭窄的道路。

所以那天我决定不打电话

,几个月后,宝拉飞
出去,在纽约的一家旅馆里和我会面,

我和我的妻子。

我敲了门
,这个女人接了电话。

肯定不是我爸。

“很高兴见到你,”她说。

听起来也不像我爸爸。

我们去吃午饭,服务员
过来接我们的订单。

他说,“让我们从女士们开始吧,”

但餐桌上只有一位
女士,那是我的妻子,

而且——哦,天哪,
餐桌上有两位女士。

我爸爸点了生菜之类的东西

,我就像,我的盘子里有薯条。

我爸爸喜欢薯条吗? 我不记得了。

我想他喜欢他们。

但她没有吃它们。

这个女人
对我了如指掌,

而我对她一无所知。

我什至不记得说再见。

PSW:那一天我能想到的只有

九月下旬在纽约

,我穿着白色牛仔裤。

(笑声) 纽约劳动节过后

你就不穿白色了

敲门声响起

,我能想到的是,
我站在这里,我穿错了牛仔裤。

然后我看到了
我非常喜欢的这双蓝色的大眼睛

,它们
难以置信地盯着我。

我想,“哦,这
并不容易。”

当一个家庭中的一个人转变时

,整个家庭都会转变,
无论他们愿意与否。

现在,对于那些处于边缘的人来说,这很容易。

自由主义者说:“哦,太棒了!

她找到了她的真相,多么令人愉快。”

保守派说,
“这搞砸了,我要离开这里。”

(笑声)

但对我的家人来说,这两个
极端都行不通。

他们的愤怒,他们的伤害,

他们的爱和忠诚——

这一切都必须被
带到试炼的路上。

JW:都是谎言吗?

前院的每一场接球比赛
,大都会队的季票——

是和我爸爸一起玩的,还是和她一起玩的?

我记得有一次,

我爸爸带我骑自行车
穿过赫克歇尔

公园教我关于性的知识。

他解释了
我现在知道他希望不属于她的身体部位。

我父亲曾经存在过吗?

现在,悲伤——

悲伤是没有规则的。

悲伤不问就借了你的车,

把它弄坏了

,然后不道歉。

我是一个残骸。

这很重。

我退回到自己里面。

我很生气。

我感到被背叛了。

而且我想我应该

知道,你鼓励
我成为大都会队的球迷

,你让我
为生活中真正的大失望做好了准备。

(笑声)

这是真的。

然而,每周六都有接球比赛,

还有季票

和培根、鸡蛋和奶酪
三明治

,这些三明治来自长岛最好的百吉饼店。

我父亲过着
他不想过的生活,

但他过着这样的生活是为了
让我有一个爸爸。

我不再
怀疑我父亲是否曾经存在过。 在我成长的每一天,

他都存在——有意识地、
有意识地、有意识地

为此,我很感激。

宝拉的身体现在是她的了
,她的转变已经完成,

但我的转变才刚刚开始。

我有另一个考验,另一个旅程,
另一个选择来听从父亲的建议

,继续沿着那条狭窄的道路前进。

PSW:所以大多数时候
我相信有一个上帝。

周二和周四可能会很艰难

,任何一天你都
在新泽西收费公路上。

我的意思是,真的,你知道吗?

(笑声)

当你的灵魂在错误的身体里时,你很难相信上帝。

尽管如此,我还是以某种方式最终进入了事工。

当我失去所有工作时,
这与个人无关。

这是宗教部落所做的。

他们相信敌人是
部落生存所必需的,

所以在没有敌人的地方,

他们创造了一个。

现在,性少数
是敌人;

我的离开是迅速而确定的。

当我的儿子
离开他在西费城的教书工作

进入事工时,我感到很惊讶。

我没有看到那个来。

现在我想知道:

他会怎么做?

我不必等那么久
就能找到答案。

第一次访问六个月后,

他邀请我回纽约。

JW:布鲁克林大桥的设计师们,

他们也有不幸的经历。

约翰·罗布林(John Roebling)
在桥梁建设开始后不久就去世了。

他的儿子华盛顿接任,

但他
患有减压病。

他的妻子艾米丽成为

监督桥梁完工的代理执行工程师。

父亲和儿子,

约翰和华盛顿,

通过他们的工作完成了。

那是五月阳光明媚的一天

,我和父亲坐在
布鲁克林大桥的阴影下。

我们的生活会跟随罗布林一家——

父亲和儿子,由我们的工作完成吗?

我父亲
认为她在教堂的朋友

会带她度过过渡期

,但他们没有。

他们抛弃了她,紧紧抓住我。

我是
布鲁克林一家新教堂的牧师。

这群有远见的人

,然而,我们在经济上却
与真正保守的教会联系在一起。

为保拉留出空间意味着危及
我们自己教会的生计。

我有点跨越了
这些交战世界之间的界限。

于是我对爸爸说:

“爸爸,我
还在你的旧世界生活和工作

,你有没有可能
为了我伸出橄榄枝?”

而她的反应是热情洋溢的。

你对我说:“
你知道

最终
向你真正的朋友展示自己

并让他们完全拒绝你是什么感觉吗

?要求你活在谎言中?

你知道那是什么感觉吗?”

我不知道那是什么感觉。

但我知道我必须做出决定。

这是决定继续
沿着那条狭窄的小路穿过夜晚

,但

我第一次瞥见了一丝曙光。

我不能要求我父亲成为
她真实的自我。

(掌声)

PSW:那天我们坐在河边,

乔纳森谈到了他的痛苦,
他的痛苦,他的悲伤,他的困惑。

他全身心地
投入到那次谈话中

,让我

感到痛苦是造成这种痛苦的原因。

但就在他说话的时候,有一些
救赎正在发生,

充满了张力,但也有可能,

根植于那条狭窄的道路上。

他说:“这总是会很艰难

。总是会这样。

但是爸爸,

我爱你。”

我的儿子是我中最好的,甚至更多。

他大胆而坚强,

敏感而深思熟虑。

我想你可以说,

他是一个温柔的阿尔法男性。

JW:是时候让我的女儿
们见见他们的——宝拉了。

我们回到了我的公寓

,我的女儿们在餐桌上涂着颜色

,这是一种尴尬的沉默。

最后,我最小的孩子问
了一个自信的问题。

“那么,爷爷,你有阴茎吗?”

(笑声

) 紧张情绪消退
,笑声平息后,

我的女儿们把他们的爷爷
带回房间

,给她看他们的新玩具,

并给她取了一个新名字。

他们称她为“GrandPaula”。

(笑声)

PSW:所以去年夏天,我的
五个孙女都在我家

,在
落基山脉的山脚下。

我们在

流经我们小镇的清凉河水中游泳。

有一天,乔纳森的一个
女孩对我说:

“大宝拉,我们可以去
河上玩油管吗?”

我说,“嗯,你知道,

我真的会等到你爸爸
来这里。

我觉得
这应该是他的电话。”

她说,“哦,但是GrandPaula,

他会做出和
你一样的决定。

他很像你,你知道的。”

(笑声)

我想,是的,他和我很像,

我们俩都
决心找到那条狭窄的小路

,沿着它
走过漫长的黑夜,

一直到黎明的曙光。

JW:你有没有
注意到一个安全

的孩子,一个懂得爱的孩子,

那个孩子会跳舞?

他们挥舞着手臂

,踢着腿跟着
只有他们能听到的音乐。

这是一个孩子的音乐,
他安全无恙

,全心全意地被爱着。

在我的孩子们
遇到他们的 GrandPaula 的第二天,

她带他们去买甜甜圈

,我看着他们走
在街上

,我的女儿们挽着我父亲的

手臂跳舞。

我父亲的手臂疯狂地摆动着。

你给他们买了太多的甜甜圈,
因为你总是这样做——

(笑声)

我看着我的大女儿
咬了一口她的甜甜圈

,她两次跳跃和旋转。

它是完美的。

这条狭窄的道路

,总是有它
的负担和挑战。

但我确信我们
会经历救赎。

我看着我爸爸

,我看着我的女儿们正在跳舞
和吃甜甜圈,

我大声对任何人

说,我说:“这……

这就是上帝看待我爸爸的方式。”

我父亲真的重生了。

通过选择狭窄
的救赎之路,

我与她重生了。

谢谢你。

(掌声和欢呼)