Can democracy exist without trust Ivan Krastev

I’m afraid I’m one of those Pickers you

hope you’re not going to meet at that

first I don’t have a mobile so I’m on

the safe side secondly political series

who is going to talk about the crisis of

democracy is probably not the most

exciting topic you can think about and

plus I’m not going to give you any

answers I’m much more trying to add to

some of the questions we are talking

about and one of the things that I want

to question is this very popular hope

these days the transparency and openness

can restore the trust in democratic

institutions there is one more reason

for you to be suspicious about me you

people the Church of Tet a very

optimistic community basically you

believe in complexity but not in a bigot

as you have been told I’m Bulgarian and

according to the surveys we among the

most pessimistic people in the world The

Economist magazine recently wrote an

article covering one of the recent

studies on happiness and the title was

the happy done happy and the Bulgarians

so now when you know what to expect

let’s give you the story and this is a

rainy election day in a small country

that can be my country but could be also

your country and because of the rain

till four o’clock in the afternoon

nobody went to the polling stations but

then the rain stopped people went to

vote and to end the votes have been

counted the three-fourths of the people

have voted with a blank ballots the

government in the opposition they have

been simply paralyzed because you know

what to do about the protests you know

whom to RS come to negotiate with but

what to do about people who are voting

with the blank ballots so the government

decided to have the elections once again

in this type even a greater number

eighty-three percent of the people voted

with the blank ballots basically they

went to the ballot boxes to tell that

they have nobody to vote for this is the

opening of a beautiful novel by joseph

serumaga old seeing but in my view it

very well captures part of the problem

that we have with democracy in Europe

these days on one level nobody is

questioning the democracy is the best

form of government democracy is the only

game in town the problem is that many

people start to believe that it is not a

game worth playing for the last 30 years

political scientists has observed that

there is a constant decline in electoral

turnout and the people who are least

interested to vote are the people whom

you expect a going to vote to gain most

out of voting I’m in the unemployed down

the privileged this is a major issue

because especially now with the economic

crisis you can see that the trust in

politics that in trusting democratic

institutions was really destroyed

according to the latest survey being

done by the European Commission

eighty-nine percent of the citizens of

Europe believe that there is a growing

gap between the opinion of the

policymakers and the opinion of the

public only eighteen percent of the

Italians and fifteen percent of Greeks

believed that their vote matters what

basically people start to understand

that they can change governments but

they cannot change policies and the

question which I want to ask is the

following how it happened that we are

living in a societies which are much

freer than ever before we had more

rights we can travel easier we have

access to more information at the same

time the trust in our democratic

institutions basically has collapsed so

basically i want to ask foot went right

and what went wrong in these fifty years

when we talk about democracy until start

with what went right

and the first thing that went right was

of course these five revolutions which

in my view very much change the way

we’re living and deepened our democratic

experience and the first was the

cultural and social revolution of the

1960s which put the individual at the

center of politics it was the human

rights moment basically this was also a

major outbreak a culture of dissent a

culture of basically non-conformism

which was not known before so I do

believe the different things like that

very much the children of 68

nevertheless it most of us he had been

even not born there but after that you

have the market revolution of the 1980s

and nevertheless that many people on the

left tries to hate it the truth is that

it was very much the market revolution

that sent the message the government

does not know better and you have a much

more choice driven societies and of

course you have the 1989 the end of

communism the entered the Cold War and

it was the birth of the global world did

you get the internet and this is not the

audience to which I’m going to preach to

what extent the internet empowered

people it has changed the way we are

communicating and basically we’re

viewing politics the very idea of

political community totally has changed

and I’m going to name one more

revolution and this is the revolution in

brain sciences which totally changed the

way we understand how people are taking

decisions so this is what went right but

if you are going to see what went wrong

we’re going to end up with the same five

revolutions because first you have 1960s

and 1970s cultural and social revolution

which in a certain way destroy the idea

of a collective purpose the very idea

all this collective nouns that we have

been taught about nation class family we

start to like they were stinky

premiering at all all this was very much

under attack and it is so difficult to

engage people in politics which they do

believe that what really matters is

where they personally stand

and you have the market revolution of

the 1980s and the huge increase of

inequality and societies remember till

1970s the spread of democracy has always

been accompanied by the decline of

inequality the more democratic our

societies have been the more than equal

they have been becoming now we have the

reverse tendency the spread of democracy

now is very much accompanied by the

increase inequality and I find this very

much disturbing when we’re talking about

what’s going on right and wrong with

democracy these days until go to the

1989 something that basically don’t

expect that anybody is going to

criticize but many are going to tell you

listen it was the end of the Cold War

that aired the social contract between

their leads and the people in Western

Europe when the Soviet Union was still

there the rich and the powerful they

needed the people because they feared

them now they leads basically have been

liberated they’re very mobile you cannot

text them and basically they don’t fear

the people so as a result of it you have

this very strange situation in which

they leads basically got out of the

control of the voters so this is not by

accident that the voters are not

interested to vote anymore and when we

talk about the Internet yes it’s true

internet-connected all of us but we also

know that internet created this equal

chambers and political ghettos in which

for all your life you can state with the

political community you belong to and

it’s becoming more and more difficult to

understand the people who are not like

you I know that many people here you

splendidly speaking about the digital

world and the possibility for

cooperation but you could see what the

digital world you have done to the

American politics these days this is

also parked the results of the internet

revolution this is the other side of the

things that we like and when you go to

the brain sciences what political

consultants weren’t from the brain

scientist is don’t talk me about ideas

anymore don’t talk me about policy pro

what really matter is basically to

manipulate the emotions of the people

and to have this very strongly to the

extent that even if you see when we talk

about revolutions these days these

revolutions are not named any more

around ideologies or ideas before

revolutions used to have ideological

names they could be communists they

could be liberal they could be fascist

or Islamic now the revolutions are

called under the media which is most

used you have facebook revolutions

Twitter’s revolutions the content

doesn’t matter anymore the problem is

the media and saying this because one of

my major point is what went right is

also what went wrong and when we’re now

trying to see how we can change the

situation when basically we’re trying to

see what can be done about democracy we

should keep this ambiguity in mind

because probably some of the things that

we love most are going to be also the

things that can hurt us most this date

is very kind of popular to believe that

this push for transparency this kind of

a combination between active citizens

new technologies and much more

transparency friendly regulation can

restore trust in politics you believe

that when you have these new

technologies and people who are ready to

use this it can make much more difficult

for the government’s July it’s going to

be more difficult for them to steal and

probably it’s even going to be more

difficult for them to kill this is

probably true but I do believe that we

shall be also very clear that now when

we put the transparency at the center of

politics where the messages it is the

transparency stupid transparency is not

about restoring trust in institutions

transparency is a politics as management

of mistrust we’re assuming that our

societies are going to be based on

mistrust and by the way mistress was

always very important for democracy this

is why you have check and balances this

is why basically you have all this

creative minstrels between the

representatives and those whom they

represent but when politics

is only management of mistrust then I’m

very glad that 1984 have been mentioned

now we are going to have 1984 in Reverse

it’s not going to be the Big Brother

watching kill is going to be we being

the Big Brother watching the political

class but if this day give a free

society for example can you imagine that

the decent Civic talented people is

going to run for office if they really

do believe that politics is also about

managing mistrust are you not afraid

that with all these technologies that

are going to track down any statement

the politicians are going to make on

certain issues are not afraid that it’s

very going to be a very strong signal to

politicians to repeat their positions

even the very wrong positions because

consistency is going to be more

important than common sense and the

Americans who I’d the room are you not

afraid that your presidents are going to

govern on the base what they said on the

primary elections I find this extremely

important because democracy is about

people changing their views based on the

rational arguments and discussions and

we can lose this with the very noble

idea to keep people accountable for

showing the people that we are not going

to tolerate politicians they opportunism

in politics so for me this is extremely

important and i do believe that when we

are discussing politics these days

probably it makes sense to work also

about this type of a story and those who

don’t forget any unveiling is also

veiling nevertheless how transparent our

governments want to be there going to be

selectively transparent in a small

country that could be my country but

could be also your country they took a

decision it is a real case story that

all of the governmental decisions

discussions of the council of ministers

are going to be published on the

internet 24 hours after the council

discussions took place and the public

was extremely old for it so he had the

opportunity to talk to the Prime

Minister why he took this decision

listen this is the best way to keep the

mouse of my ministers closed

because it’s going to be very difficult

for them to be sent knowing the 24 hours

after this is going to be on the public

space and this is in a certain way go

interview political crisis so when we

talk about transparency when we talk

about openness I really do believe that

we should keep in mind is that what went

right is what went wrong and this is

yoder who is neither Bulgarian no

political scientists some centuries ago

he said there is a big shadow where

there is much light thank you very much

恐怕我是那些你

希望你一开始不会见面的选择

者中的一员

民主可能不是

你能想到的最激动人心的话题,而且

我不会给你任何

答案我更想补充

一些我们正在谈论的问题

和我想要的事情之一

问题是现在这个非常受欢迎的

希望,透明度和开放性

可以恢复对民主机构的信任

还有一个理由

让你怀疑我你们这些

人春节教会一个非常

乐观的社区基本上你

相信复杂性但不相信 偏执者,

正如你被告知的那样,我是保加利亚人,

根据调查,我们是世界上

最悲观的人之一 《

经济学人》杂志最近写了

一篇文章,涵盖了最近

关于幸福的一项研究,标题

是快乐的人 保加利亚人,

所以现在当你知道会发生什么时,

让我们给你讲个故事吧,这

是一个小国家的下雨选举日,

它可能是我的国家,但也可能是

你的国家,因为下雨

到下午四点

没有人去投票站

但雨停了 人们去

投票并结束 选票已被

清点 四分之三的人

用空白选票投票

反对党政府

他们简直瘫痪了,因为你

知道 要处理抗议活动,你知道

RS 来与谁谈判,

但要如何处理用空白选票投票的人,

所以政府

决定再次

举行这种类型的选举,甚至更多的

83% 人们

基本上用空白选票投票,他们

去投票箱告诉

他们没有人可以投票这是

约瑟夫·塞拉加老看的一部美丽小说的开场,

但在我看来,我 t

很好地抓住了当今

欧洲民主

问题的一部分,没有人

质疑民主是政府的最佳

形式 民主

是城里唯一的游戏问题是许多

人开始相信它是

过去 30 年不值得玩的游戏

政治学家观察到

,选举投票率不断下降,

最不

感兴趣的人是你期望投票的人,他们

会从投票中获得最大收益

在失业者中,

这是一个主要问题,

因为尤其是在经济

危机的今天,你可以看到,根据欧盟委员会正在进行的最新调查,对

政治的信任以及对民主

制度的信任被摧毁

89% 的欧洲公民

认为,

政策制定者的意见与公众意见之间的差距越来越大,

只有 18%

意大利人和 15% 的希腊人

认为他们的投票很重要,

基本上人们开始

明白他们可以改变政府但

他们不能改变政策

,我想问的问题是

,我们

生活在一个

比以往任何时候都更自由的社会 我们拥有更多的

权利 我们可以更轻松地旅行 我们

可以获得更多的信息

同时对我们的民主制度的信任

基本上已经崩溃 所以

基本上我想问一下正确的做法

以及这些方面出了什么问题 五十年来,

当我们谈论民主时,直到

从正确

的开始,首先正确

的当然是这五次革命,

在我看来这极大地改变了

我们的生活方式并加深了我们的民主

经验,首先是

文化 和

1960 年代的社会革命,将个人置于

政治的中心,这是

人权时刻,基本上这也是 一次

重大爆发 异议

文化 一种基本上不墨守成规的文化,

这是以前不为人知的,所以我确实

相信不同的事情,

就像 68 岁的孩子一样,

尽管如此,我们大多数人

甚至没有出生在那里,但在那之后你

有 1980 年代的市场革命

,但许多

左翼人士试图憎恨它,事实是,

正是市场

革命发出了政府

不知道的信息,而你有一个

更多选择驱动的社会和

当然,你有 1989 年

共产主义的终结,进入冷战,

这是全球世界的诞生

你有没有互联网,这不是

我要宣扬的受众,

互联网在多大程度上赋予

人们权力 它改变了我们沟通的方式

,基本上我们正在

看待政治,

政治共同体的理念完全改变了

,我

将再举出一场革命,这就是革命

脑科学中的离子彻底改变

了我们理解人们如何

做出决定的方式,所以这是正确的,但

如果你要看看哪里出了问题,

我们最终会经历同样的五次

革命,因为首先你有 1960 年代

和 1970 年代的文化和社会

革命在某种程度上摧毁

了集体目标的

观念 我们

被教导的关于民族阶级家庭的所有这些集体名词的观念 我们

开始喜欢它们在

首映时很臭 所有这一切都受到了

攻击 让人们参与政治是如此困难,

以至于他们认为真正重要的

是他们个人的立场

,你有

1980 年代的市场革命和不平等的巨大增长

,社会记得直到

1970 年代民主的传播

一直是 伴随着不平等的减少,

我们的社会越民主,

他们变得越平等

,现在我们有了

逆转 现在民主的传播趋势

伴随着

不平等的加剧,

当我们谈论

这些天来民主的对与错时,我发现这

非常令人不安,直到进入 1989

任何人都会

批评,但很多人会告诉你,

听着,冷战的结束

他们的领导与西欧人民之间的社会契约得以宣扬,而

当时苏联仍在

他们需要的富人和强者那里

人们,因为

他们现在害怕他们,所以他们的领导基本上已经

解放

选民的控制权,所以这不是

偶然的,选民不再有

兴趣投票,当我们

谈论互联网时,是的,它是真正的

互联网连接的所有 我们,但我们也

知道,互联网创造了这个平等的

会议室和政治贫民区,

在你的一生中,你可以与你所属的政治社区进行陈述,

并且越来越

难以理解与

你不同的人我知道很多 在座的人们,你们

精彩地谈论了数字

世界和合作的可能性,

但你们可以看到

你们

这些天对美国政治所做的数字世界这

也是互联网革命的结果,

这是事物的另一面

我们喜欢,当你

去脑科学时,政治

顾问不是来自脑

科学家的,不要再跟我谈论想法

,不要再跟我谈论政策

专家,真正重要的是

操纵人民的情绪

和 非常强烈地拥有这

一点,即使你看到

这些天我们谈论革命时,这些

革命也不再

围绕意识形态命名 革命前的思想或思想

曾经有意识形态的

名字 他们可能是共产主义者 他们

可能是自由主义者 他们可能是法西斯主义者

或伊斯兰主义者

问题

是媒体并这么说是因为

我的主要观点之一是正确的

也是错误的,当我们现在

试图看看我们如何改变这种

情况时 民主,我们

应该牢记这种模棱两可,

因为可能

我们最喜欢的一些事情也将

是最能伤害我们的事情这个日期

很流行相信

这种推动透明度的

这种结合 积极的公民

新技术和更加

透明的友好监管可以

恢复对政治的信任 你

相信当你拥有这些新

技术和人时 谁准备好

使用它,这可能会使

政府的 7 月

变得更加困难,他们将更加难以窃取,

甚至可能更加

难以杀死这

可能是真的,但我相信我们

会 还要非常清楚,现在当

我们将透明度置于政治的中心时

,传递的信息就是

透明度,愚蠢的透明度不是

关于恢复对机构的信任,

透明度是一种政治,因为

管理不信任,我们假设我们的

社会将 建立在

不信任的基础上,顺便说一句,情妇

对于民主总是非常重要,这

就是为什么你有制衡机制这

就是为什么基本上你在代表和他们所代表的人之间拥有所有这些

创造性的吟游诗人

但是当政治

只是对不信任的管理时 我

很高兴现在提到

了 1984 年,我们将在 Reverse 中看到 1984 年,

它不会是老大哥

看基尔 我将成为

观看政治课的老大哥,

但如果这一天给了一个自由的

社会,你能想象如果他们真的相信政治也是关于管理的,

那么体面的公民人才

会竞选公职

吗?

不信任你不

害怕所有这些

技术将追踪

政治家将在

某些问题上发表的任何声明不害怕这

将是一个非常强烈的信号,让

政客们重复他们的立场,

即使是非常错误的 立场,因为

一致性

将比常识更重要,

而我愿意参加会议的美国人,你不

害怕你的总统会

根据他们在初选时所说的话来执政,

我认为这非常

重要,因为民主是 关于

人们根据

理性的争论和讨论改变他们的观点,

我们可以用让人们负责的非常崇高的想法来失去这一点

向人们展示我们

不会容忍政客们

在政治上投机主义,所以对我来说这非常

重要,我相信当我们

这些天讨论政治时,

可能也有必要

讨论这种类型的故事和那些 谁

不忘记任何揭幕,也

蒙着面纱。然而,我们的

政府希望在那里的

透明度将在

一个可能是我的国家但

也可能是你的国家的小国家选择性地透明他们

做出决定这是一个真实的案例故事

部长理事会的所有政府决定讨论

都将

在理事会讨论开始后 24 小时在互联网上公布,

而公众

对此非常敏感,因此他有

机会与总理交谈,

他为什么要这样做 决定

听着 这是

关闭我的部长们的老鼠的最好方法,

因为他们很难被派去知道

这将在 24 小时后出现在公共

空间,这在某种程度上是

采访政治危机,所以当我们

谈论透明度时,当我们

谈论开放时,我真的

相信我们应该记住的是,

正确的是 出了什么问题,这是

几个世纪前既不是保加利亚人也不是政治科学家的约德,

他说有一个很大的阴影,

那里有很多光,非常感谢