Trusting the ensemble Charles Hazlewood

I am a conductor and I’m here today to

talk to you about trust my job depends

upon it there has to be between me and

the orchestra an unshakable bond of

trust born out of mutual respect through

which we can spin a musical narrative

that we all believe in now in the old

days conducting music making was less

about trust and more frankly about

coercion up tune around about the second

world war conductors were invariably

dictators these tyrannical figures who

would rehearse not just the orchestra as

a whole but individuals within it within

an inch of their lives and I’m happy to

say now that the world’s moved on musics

moved on with it we now have a more

democratic view and way of making music

a two-way street as the conductor have

to come to the rehearsal with a

cast-iron sense of the outer

architecture of that music within which

there is then immense personal freedom

for the members of the orchestra to

shine for myself of course I have to

completely trust my body language that’s

all I have at the point-of-sale it’s

silent gesture

I can hardly bark out instructions while

we’re playing

ladies and gentlemen the Scottish

ensemble

so in order for this to work obviously I

have got to be in a position of trust I

have to trust the orchestra and even

more crucially I have to trust myself

think about it when you’re in a position

of not trusting what do you do you

overcompensate and in my game that means

you over gesticulate you end up like

some kind of rabid windmill and the

bigger your gesture gets the more

ill-defined blurry and frankly useless

it is to the orchestra you become a

figure of fun there’s no trust anymore

only ridicule and I remember at the

beginning of my career again and again

these dismal outings with orchestras I

would be going completely insane on the

podium trying to engender a small-scale

crescendo really just a little upsurge

in volume bugger me they wouldn’t give

it to me I spent a lot of time in those

early as weeping silently in dressing

rooms and how few tiles seemed the words

the words of advice to me from the great

british veteran conductor Sir Colin

Davis who said conducting Charles is

like holding a small bird in your hand

if you hold it too tightly you crush it

if you order too loosely it flies away I

have to say in those days I couldn’t

really even find the bird now a

fundamental and really viscerally

important experience for me in terms of

music has been my adventures in South

Africa the most dizzyingly musical

country on the planet in my view but a

country which through its musical

culture has taught me one fundamental

lesson that through music making can

come deep levels of fundamental

life-giving trust back in 2000 had the

opportunity to go to South Africa to

form a new opera company so I went out

there and I auditioned mainly in rural

Township locations right around the

country at about 2,000 singers and

pulled together a company of 40 of the

most jaw-droppingly amazing young

performers the majority of whom were

black but there were a handful of white

performers now it emerged early on in

the first rehearsal period that one of

those white performers had in his

previous incarnation been a member of

the south african police force and in

the last years of the old regime he

would routinely be detailed to go into

the township to aggress the community

you can imagine what this knowledge did

to the temperature in the room the

general atmosphere let’s be under no

illusions in South Africa the

relationship most devoid of trust is

that between a white policeman and the

community so how do we recover from that

ladies and gentlemen simply through

singing we sang we sang we sang and

amazingly new trust grew and indeed

friendship blossomed and that showed me

such a fundamental truth that music

making and other forms of creativity can

so often go to places where mere words

cannot so we got some shows off the

ground we started touring them

internationally one of them was Carmen

we then thought we’d make a movie of

Carmen which we recorded and shot inside

on location in the township outside cape

town called Khayelitsha the piece was

sung entirely in Plaza which is a

beautifully musical language if you

don’t know it it’s called Oh Carmen of

Kyle each are literally carmen of

Khayelitsha when I play with tiny clip

of it now for no other reason than to

give you proof positive that there is

nothing tiny about South African music

making

Hey

something which I find utterly

enchanting about South African music

making is that it’s so free you know

South Africans just make music really

freely and I think in no small way

that’s due to one fundamental fact they

don’t they’re not bound to a system of

notation they don’t read music they

trust their ears you can teach a bunch

of South Africans a tune in about five

seconds flat and then it’s if by magic

they will spontaneously improvise a load

of harmony around that tune because they

can now those of us that live in the

West if I can use that term I think have

a much more hidebound attitude or sense

of music that somehow it’s all about

skill and systems therefore it’s the

exclusive preserve of an elite talented

body and yet ladies and gentlemen every

single one of us on this planet probably

engages with music on a daily basis and

if I can broaden this out for a second

I’m willing to bet that every single one

of you sitting in this room would be

happy to speak with acuity with total

confidence about movies probably about

literature but how many of you would be

able to make a confident assertion about

a piece of classical music why is this

and what I want to say to you now is I

just urging you to kind of get over this

its supreme lack of self confidence to

take the plunge to believe that you can

trust your ears you can hear some of the

fundamental muscle tissue fiber DNA what

makes a great piece of music great I’ve

got a little experiment but I want to

try with you did you know that Ted is a

tune very simple tune based on three

notes te D now hang on a minute I know

you’re gonna say to me t doesn’t exist

in music well ladies and gentlemen

there’s a time-honored system which

composers have been using for hundreds

of years which proves actually that it

does if I sing you a musical scale

ABCD efg and I just carry on with the

next set of letters in the alphabet same

scale h i j k l m n o p q r s t there

you got TC it’s the same as f in music

so t is f so t ee d is the same as f ee

d now that piece of music that we played

the start of this session had enshrined

at its heart the theme which is Ted have

listened

you hear it or do I smell some doubt in

the room okay we’ll play for you again

now and we’re gonna highlight we’re

gonna poke out the te D okay if you

pardon the expression oh my goodness me

there it was loud and clear Shirley I

think we should make this even more

explicit they’ve done it’s nearly time

for tea what do you reckon you need to

sing for your tea I think we need to

sing for our tea we’re going to sing

those three wonderful notes te D would

never go for me yeah you sound a bit

more like cows really than than human

being so we try that one again and look

if you’re adventurous you got the art of

TD once more with them

there I am like a bloody windmill again

you see now we’re gonna put that in the

context of the music okay the music will

start and then and a signal from me you

will sing that

I think it wasn’t wasn’t a bad debut for

the Ted choir not a bad debut at all now

there’s a project that I’m initiating at

the moment that I’m very excited about I

wanted to share with you because it is

all about changing perceptions and

indeed building a new level of trust the

youngest of my children was born with

cerebral palsy which is you can imagine

if you don’t have an experience of it

yourself is quite a big thing to take on

board but the great gift that my

gorgeous daughter has given me aside

from her very existence is that it’s

opened my eyes to a whole stretch of the

community that was hidden to hidden the

community of disabled people and Pharma

start looking at the Paralympics in

thinking how incredible how technology

has been harnessed to prove beyond doubt

that disability is no barrier to the

highest levels of sporting achievement

of course is a grimmer side to that

truth which is that it’s actually taken

decades for the world at large to come

to a position of trust to really believe

that disability and sports can go

together in a convincing an interesting

fashion so I find myself asking where is

music in all of this you can’t tell me

that there aren’t millions of disabled

people in the UK alone with massive

musical potential so decided to create a

platform for that potential it’s going

to be Britain’s first ever national

disabled Orchestra it’s called

para Orchestra I want to show you a clip

now of the very first improvisation

session that we had was a really

extraordinary moment just me and for

astonishingly gifted disabled musicians

in a normally when you improvise an idea

at all the time around the world there’s

this initial period of kind of horror

like everyone’s to fright to throw their

hat into the ring an awful pregnant

silence and then suddenly as if by magic

bang they’re all in there it’s complete

bedlam you can’t hear anything no one’s

listening no one’s trusting no one’s

kind of responding to each other now in

this room with these four disabled

musicians within five minutes there was

a rapt listening a rapt response and

some really insanely beautiful music

my name is Nicolas McAfee I’m 22 and I’m

a left-handed pianist and I was born

without my left hand right hand I do

that one again when I’m making music I

feel like a pilot in the carpet flying

aeroplanes I become alive

I would rather be able to play an

instrument again than walk there’s so

much joy and things I could get from

playing an instrument and performing

yeah it’s um

removed some of the paralysis

I only wish that some of those musicians

were here with us today’s you could see

it firsthand how utterly extraordinary

they are peril or kissers the name of

that project if any of you thinks you

want to help me in any way to achieve

what is a fairly impossible implausible

dream still at this point please let me

know now a parting shot comes courtesy

of the great Joseph Haydn wonderful

Austrian composer of the second half of

the 18th century spent the bulk of his

life in the employ of Prince Nikolaos

Esterhazy along with his orchestra

now this prince loved his music he also

loved the country castle that he tended

to reside in most of the time which was

just on the austro-hungarian border

place called Esterhazy a long way from

the big city of Vienna

and one day early in 1772 the prince

decreed that the musicians families the

orchestral musicians families were no

longer welcome in the castle they were

not allowed to stay there anymore they

had to be returned to Vienna as I say an

unfeasibly long way away in those days

you can imagine the musicians were

disconsolate Hyden demonstrated with the

prince but to no avail so given the

prince loved his music I didn’t thought

he’d write a symphony to make the point

I’m going to play just a very tail end

of this symphony now and you’ll see the

orchestra in a kind of sullen revolt and

please let’s say the Prince did take the

tip from the orchestral performance the

musicians were reunited with their

families but I think it sums up my talk

rather well this that where there is

trust

there is music by extension life where

there is no trust the music quite simply

withers away

you

我是一名指挥,今天我来这里是

想和你谈谈信任 我的工作取决于信任

我和管弦乐队之间必须有

一种不可动摇的信任纽带,这种纽带

源于相互尊重

现在所有人都相信,在过去,

指挥音乐创作不是

关于信任,更坦率地说是关于

强迫调高关于

第二次世界大战的指挥家总是

独裁者,这些暴虐的人物

不仅会排练整个管弦乐队,还会排练乐队

内部的个人

他们生活的一英寸,我很高兴地

说,现在世界在继续音乐

,我们现在有了更

民主的观点和方式,让音乐

成为一条双向的街道,因为指挥

必须带着

对那种音乐的外部结构的铸铁感觉

,然后管弦乐队的成员有巨大的个人自由

为自己发光当然我必须

完全相信我的身体 语言就是

我在销售点的全部 它是

无声的姿态

我们演奏

苏格兰合奏的女士们先生们时,我几乎无法发出指令,

所以为了让这个工作显然

我必须处于信任的位置 我

必须相信管弦乐队,

更重要的是,我必须相信

自己,当

你不相信你做了什么,你会

过度补偿,而在我的比赛中,这意味着

你过度打手势,你最终会像

某种 狂暴的风车,

越大的手势越

模糊,坦率地说

,对管弦乐队来说毫无用处,你变成了一个

有趣的人物,不再信任,

只有嘲笑,我

一次又一次地记得在我职业生涯的开始,

这些令人沮丧的郊游 管弦乐队 我

会在

讲台上完全发疯 试图产生一个小规模的

渐强 真的只是

音量有点上升 操我他们不会

给我的 我花了很多时间在那些

早在更衣室里默默地哭泣时

,几块瓷砖看起来是那么

几句话

英国资深指挥家科林

戴维斯爵士对我的忠告,他说指挥查尔斯

就像手里拿着一只小鸟,

如果你握得太紧,你就会粉碎

如果你订购得太松,它就会飞走 我

不得不说,在那些日子里,

我什至找不到这只鸟现在

对我来说,在音乐方面,一个基本且非常重要的经历是我在

南非的冒险最令人眼花缭乱的音乐

在我看来,这个星球上的国家,但这个

国家通过其音乐

文化教会了我一个基本的

教训,即通过音乐制作

可以达到深层次的基本

生命赋予信任早在 2000 年就有

机会去南非

组建一个新的 歌剧院,所以我去了

那里,我主要在全国

各地的乡镇地区试听

了大约 2,000 名歌手,并

组建了一个由 40 名歌手组成的公司

大多数令人瞠目结舌的年轻

表演者,其中大多数是

黑人,但现在有少数白人

表演者,在

第一次排练早期就出现了,其中

一名白人表演者在他

的前世

是南非警察的成员 武力,在

旧政权的最后几年里,

他经常被

派往乡镇侵略社区,

你可以想象这些知识

对房间的温度有什么影响,

一般的气氛让我们

对南非的关系不要抱任何幻想

最缺乏信任的

是白人警察和

社区之间,所以我们如何从

女士们先生们那里恢复过来,仅仅通过

唱歌我们唱歌我们唱歌我们唱歌,

令人惊讶的是,新的信任增长了,而且确实

友谊开花了,这向我展示了

一个如此基本的事实, 音乐

制作和其他形式的创造力

经常可以去到单纯的文字无法达到的地方,

所以我们得到了一些

炫耀 然后我们开始在国际上巡回他们,

其中一个是卡门

,然后我们想我们会制作一部卡门的电影

,我们

在开普敦

郊外的小镇 Khayelitsha 录制并拍摄了这首曲子,这首曲子

完全在广场演唱,这是一部

美妙的音乐剧 语言如果你

不知道它被称为凯尔的哦卡门

当我现在玩它的小片段时,每个人实际上都是卡耶利莎的卡门,

只是为了

给你一个肯定的证据,证明

南非音乐制作没有什么小事

我觉得

南非音乐制作完全迷人的

一点是它是如此自由,你知道

南非人只是真正

自由地制作音乐,我认为这在很大程度上

是由于一个基本事实,他们

不这样做,他们不受系统的约束

记谱法 他们不读音乐 他们

相信自己的耳朵 你可以

在大约五秒钟内教一群南非人一首

曲子 然后他们会通过魔法

自发即兴

围绕那首曲子有很多和谐,因为他们

现在可以像我们这些生活在

西方的人一样,如果我可以使用这个词,我认为他们

的态度或音乐感会更加

保守 一个精英才华横溢的

身体,然而女士们先生们

,这个星球上的每一个人可能

每天都在接触音乐,

如果我能扩大这一点,

我愿意打赌

你们每一个人都坐在 这间屋子很

乐意以敏锐的态度和完全

自信地谈论电影可能是关于

文学的,但是你们中有多少人

能够对一段古典音乐做出自信的断言

为什么会这样

,我现在想对你们说的是我

只是敦促你克服

这种极度缺乏

自信去冒险相信你可以

相信你的耳朵你可以听到一些

基本的肌肉组织纤维 DNA

什么是伟大的馅饼 ce of music great I’ve

got a little experiment but I want to

try with you 你知道Ted是一

首非常简单的曲调,基于三个

音符te D现在等一下我知道

你会对我说t

在音乐中并不存在 女士们先生们

有一个历史悠久的系统

作曲家已经使用了

数百年 这实际上证明

如果我给你唱一个音阶

ABCD efg 然后我继续

下一组 字母表中的字母 相同的

音阶 hijklmnopqrst

你得到了 TC 它与音乐中的 f 相同,

所以 t 是 f 所以 t ee d 与 f ee d 相同

现在我们在

本节开始时播放的那首音乐已经供奉

在它的 心是泰德的主题

你听到了吗 或者我在房间里闻到了一些怀疑

好吧我们现在再为你演奏

我们要强调 我们

要戳出 te D 好吧 如果你

原谅这个表达 哦,我的天哪,

那里声音很大,很清晰,雪莉,我

想我们应该马 更

明确地说,他们已经完成了几乎

是喝茶的时间了你认为你需要

为你的茶唱歌我认为我们需要

为我们的茶唱歌我们将唱出

这三个美妙的音符 te D

永远不会去唱 我是的,你听起来

更像牛,而不是

人类,所以我们再试一次,

看看你是否有冒险精神,你在那里再次获得了 TD 的艺术

我就像一个该死的风车,

你现在看到了,我们 重新把它放在

音乐的背景下好吧,音乐会

开始,然后我发出一个信号,你

会唱歌,

我认为这

对泰德合唱团来说不是一个糟糕的处女作,一点也不糟糕,现在

有 我现在正在启动的一个项目

,我非常兴奋,我

想与你分享,因为这

一切都是为了改变观念,并

确实建立一个新的信任水平

我最小的孩子出生时

患有脑瘫,这是 你可以想象

如果你自己没有经历过

这是一件很重要的事情,

但我

美丽的女儿给我的

除了她的存在之外的伟大礼物是,它让

我看到了整个社区,这些

社区被隐藏到隐藏

的残疾人社区和制药业

开始 看着残奥会,

思考如何

利用技术来证明

毫无疑问残疾不是

最高水平的体育成就

的障碍是多么不可思议

来到一个值得信赖的位置,真正

相信残疾和运动

可以以一种令人信服的有趣方式结合在一起,

所以我发现自己在问

音乐在所有这一切中在哪里,你不能告诉

我没有数百万

残疾人 仅在英国就具有巨大的

音乐潜力,因此决定

为这种潜力创建一个平台,这

将成为英国有史以来第一个国家

残疾人管弦乐团。 ed

para Orchestra 我想给你看一段

我们第一次即兴演奏

的片段 最初的恐怖时期,

每个人都害怕把他们的

帽子扔进擂台上 可怕的怀孕

般的沉默,然后突然就像魔法一样,

他们都在里面,这是完全的

混乱,你什么都听不见,没有人在

听,没有人的信任 没有人

这个房间里和这四位残疾

音乐家在五分钟内互相回应有

一种全神贯注的听着全神贯注的反应和

一些非常美妙的音乐

我的名字是尼古拉斯迈克菲我22岁,我

是左- 双手钢琴家,我天生就

没有左手右手

当我制作音乐时我再次这样做我

感觉自己像地毯上的飞行员飞行

飞机我变得活着

我宁愿成为 e 再次演奏

乐器而不是走路

我可以从演奏乐器和表演中得到很多快乐和东西

如果你们中的任何一个人认为你们

想以任何方式帮助我

实现一个相当不可能的难以置信的

梦想,那么他们是危险的,或者

亲吻这个项目的

名字 伟大的约瑟夫·海顿(Joseph Haydn)是 18

世纪下半叶出色的奥地利作曲家,

他的大部分

时间都受雇于尼古拉斯·

埃斯特哈齐王子和他的管弦乐队,

现在这位王子喜欢他的音乐,他也

喜欢他经常居住的乡村城堡

那个时候

就在奥匈边境

的埃斯特哈兹,离大城市维也纳很远

,1772 年初的一天,王子

下令 音乐家的家人

管弦乐队的家人

不再在城堡里受到欢迎 他们不再被

允许呆在那里 他们

不得不返回维也纳,正如我所说的

那样,在那些日子里,

你可以想象音乐家们很

沮丧 海顿表现出 和王子在一起,

但无济于事,所以鉴于

王子喜欢他的音乐,我没想到

他会写一首交响曲来说明这一点

管弦乐队处于一种闷闷不乐的反抗中,

请假设王子确实

从管弦乐表演中得到了提示,

音乐家们与家人团聚,

但我认为它很好地总结了我的谈话

,即有

信任的地方

就有延长生命的音乐 在

没有信任的地方,音乐很简单地

让你枯萎