How to understand and be understood

imagine this

you are 13 years old you’re sitting in

your bedroom

doodling away on a sheet of paper and

suddenly

your father walks in he comes straight

towards you

looks you in the eye and says

who are you

you’re like what what kind of question

is that

well that happened to me and i was that

kid

at that moment all i wanted to do was

outsmart him so as a teenager what do i

do

i start listing everything i know i said

dad

i’m richie your daughter i’m a girl i’m

13 i’m in eighth grade i love dogs i

like playing badminton and so on

to which he replies richie

everything you’ve said to me is true

they are facts

but is that really who you are

that messed with my brain it took me

down this rabbit hole

where i have been ever since searching

for the answers

i spent 10 years studying psychology

that helped a bit

and another decade working within

universities

researching and teaching what it means

to relate to others

how do we negotiate an understanding in

relationships

as humans the one thing that fascinates

us all

well are other humans we have this need

to understand them

to be able to tell stories about who

they are and a need

to be understood you

and i have felt the pleasure of

understanding

and the pain of misunderstanding in

relationship with our parents

our friends our partners our children

even our colleagues

at work more so now when we live

in a polarized society misunderstandings

creep in rather quickly

when you’re discussing politics religion

identity

inequality environment and all the other

social issues

in fact we live in a world where under

misunderstanding is the misery we

inflict on others

humans are hard to read they are even

harder to understand you

have this unique access to your own mind

you know for the most part what you’re

feeling

what you’re thinking and what drives you

some of who you are is observable but

most of who you are

is invisible and yet we are baffled

in conversations and discussions and

negotiations

when others don’t see us or the world as

we see it

understanding and misunderstanding are

topics close to my heart

fifteen years ago when i was doing my

phd i looked at how taking perspective

and empathizing affects how we react to

betrayal

whether we choose to forgive and trust

again

or we take revenge for the last 11 years

i’ve studied

how we deal with conflicts and

disagreements at work whether we reflect

on them

how do we listen to others perspectives

ideas

how do we deliberate and use them in our

own decisions

from that body of work one thing an

important thing that i’ve learned

is we are very good at spotting

misunderstanding

while we suck at creating understanding

so at this point we should be asking

ourselves what does it mean

to understand where and when does it

happen

and let’s start by dissecting the very

word

understand the word under in understand

is actually derived from an old persian

possibly sanskrit

root called antar antar

means among and between things

and the word stand in understand is

actually derived from a german dutch

root

which means to be present and to exist

so to understand is to be present

and exist among and between things

not over not under but among

so the next question in your mind should

be where am i supposed to exist like

what is that space well if you ask the

philosophers and the psychologists

they’d argue

that you have to somehow exist

in the mind of the other that

understanding

is walking in a person’s shoes mentally

and simulating what they’re feeling and

what they’re thinking

i want to challenge that view i want to

show you that it’s problematic

to look at understanding as an

individual’s responsibility to replicate

another person’s inner world i want to

suggest to you that understanding

is not what a person does understanding

is not a thing

it’s not a noun it’s not an outcome or

an

endpoint that we have to somehow

permanently achieve

rather understanding is a verb

it’s a process where two parties come

into a shared space

where they co-create a frame where they

define

and interpret the meaning and

significance

of each other’s realities and truths

let’s take a detour for a moment and

let’s look

at the language we use to talk about

misunderstanding

we often say things like they distorted

what i said

or they misconstrued what i was saying

common in these expressions is the idea

that somehow the

other did not replicate

and mirror my inner world and my inner

thoughts

now it’s problematic to look at it

because

by that logic to understand you’d have

to be what

michelangelo and you know

someone who can carve from a block of

stone

a form that is so perfect that it

unquestionably represents its subject’s

truth

now you and i know we can’t all be as

skilled as michelangelo

so i want to suggest to you that if we

need to reimagine

how we look at understanding that we

need to see it

as a collaborative process of

molding with clay

if you see understanding as this

collaborative process

happening in a shared space where you’re

molding with clay

you realize that both parties have to

work on it together

that your actions to add layers

and subtract layers of knowledge and

clay are not in isolation

that they’re going to impact the moves

of the other

that both of you have to dynamically

adapt

to what’s happening on the other side

that you have to creatively coordinate

to form a shape and

talking is essential talking about

what’s happened

in the past what’s happening right now

and what

may be future goals that are worth

pursuing

when you see understanding as a

collaborative process of molding

you also realize that you have to

entertain multiple possibilities

and that sometimes those possibilities

are contradictory

that you have to remain present among

those possibilities

even when the clay collapses that you

have to rebuild

and that it is futile to try and achieve

a permanent or a perfect state of

understanding

that like molding all understanding

is fundamentally partial and incomplete

with scope for further improvement

i’ve been teaching negotiation skills

for over a decade

i have observed and analyzed thousands

of discussions and negotiations and i’ve

seen people

fail and some succeed in this

collaborative process of molding

so what aren’t we doing well and what

can you

do to get better at it what i found

is that those who fail at the process of

understanding

are the ones who see understanding as

knowing

they look at it as an act of uncovering

facts

you know they tend to present themselves

in terms of those facts and positions

a little bit like the 13 year old me did

to my dad’s question

and they tend to seek similar facts and

positions from others

knowing is like hearing

understanding is the process of

listening it’s about

seeing the connection between ideas and

far more importantly

the meaning and significance of those

positions ideas perspectives

for the other for yourself and in that

relationship

why they matter the other reason why i

have found

why people fail at understanding is

because they love

they absolutely love to conclude

and they do so based on unidentified and

unquestioned assumptions

assumptions are our beliefs about how

the world works

how things are connected what actions

lead to

outcomes and what goals are worth

pursuing in fact

assumptions are the springboard from

where logic

and reason flow so now

you know a fair bit you know a fair bit

about

what why we fail so what can we do

to get better at this process well the

first thing we can do

is we can start to identify and

articulate

our assumptions early in conversations

and invite the other to do the same

when you allow assumptions to exist in

that shared space

you are allowing for multiple

interpretations of reality

where you can experiment and look if

assumptions don’t match

or are they overlapping

the other thing you can do in that

process is start caring

about the semantics words don’t mean the

same thing for everyone

they don’t have objective truths we need

to clarify the meaning behind

our spoken word which means we need to

define

things early in conversations we need to

provide examples use more synonyms

in the way we speak so that the context

gets

more clarified we need to search

for the non-apparent meaning behind the

other people’s spoken words

you can do that by checking and

re-checking

the essence of what you’ve heard till

multiple ways of interpreting and saying

that idea

is acceptable to the other

to get better at identifying assumptions

and clarifying meaning

we need to start getting curious we need

to learn how to probe

and ask better questions especially the

what if questions

the what if questions are when you

present hypothetical scenarios during

discussions where for example you could

say

if x then what listen to the reaction of

the other

follow it up with why and why not

so you’ve been here for about 10 minutes

were you hearing or were you

understanding

do you now feel that you’re more aware

of what the process of understanding

entails

are you going to take this into your

life the next time you interact with

someone

the next time you sit down with your

child your parent partner

friend colleague at work where you want

to create understanding

you want to co-create that shared frame

are you going to remember to remain

present

entangled amongst ideas

so take the memory of the words you’ve

heard today

share it tonight with one other person

someone with whom you can debate the

assumptions behind the ideas you’ve

heard today

to clarify the meaning and the logic and

reason from where it flows

so you can collaboratively mold

your own deep understanding about

understanding

thank you

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想象一下,

你 13 岁,你坐在

卧室

里,在一张纸上涂鸦,

突然

你父亲走进来,他径直

走向你,

看着你的眼睛,说

你是谁,你是什么样的 问题

发生在我身上的那件事很好,那时我就是那个

孩子,我想做的就是比

他更聪明,所以作为一个十几岁的孩子,我该怎么做

我开始列出我知道的一切我说

爸爸

我是里奇你的女儿我是 一个女孩,我

13 岁,我在八年级

大脑把我

带进了这个兔子洞

,自从我寻找答案以来,我一直在这个洞里

学习心理学

,这对我有帮助

,又在大学里工作了十年,

研究和

教授与他人

交往的意义我们如何协商理解 相对而言

作为人类,让我们所有人着迷的一件事

是其他人类 我们

需要了解他们

才能讲述关于他们是谁的故事,

需要被理解你

,我感受到了理解的乐趣

和痛苦

与父母关系的误解

我们的朋友 我们的合作伙伴 我们的孩子

甚至

我们的工作同事现在更是如此

我们生活在这样一个世界里,

误解就是我们

对他人造成的痛苦

人类难以阅读 他们

更难以理解 你

有这种独特的方式进入你自己的思想

你知道你的大部分

感受

你是什么 思考和驱动你的

一些人是可以观察到的,但

大多数人

是不可见的,但我们

在对话和讨论中感到困惑

15 年前,当我

攻读博士学位时,我研究了观点

和同情如何影响我们对背叛的反应。

在过去的 11 年里,

我们选择再次原谅和

信任,

否则我们会报仇 我们

自己

从那份工作中做出的决定

我学到的一件重要的事情

是,我们非常善于发现

误解,

而我们却不善于创造理解,

所以在这一点上,我们应该问

自己

,理解何时何地意味着什么 它

会发生吗?

让我们从剖析这个词开始,

理解这个

词实际上来自一个古老的波斯语,

可能是梵语的

词根 calle d antar antar 的

意思是事物之间和事物之间

,而stand in understand这个词

实际上源自德语荷兰语

词根

,意思是存在和存在,

因此理解是存在

和存在于事物之间和之间

,不是在事物之上,不是在事物之下,而是在事物

之中 你脑海中的下一个问题

应该是我应该存在于哪里,就像

那个空间很好,如果你问

哲学家和心理学家,

他们会争辩

说你必须以某种方式存在

于另一个人

的头脑中 一个人的鞋子在

心理上模拟他们的感受和

他们的想法

我想挑战这种观点 我想

告诉你,将

理解视为

个人复制

他人内心世界的责任是有问题的 我想

向你建议 理解

不是一个人所做

的事情 理解不是事物

它不是名词 它

不是我们必须以某种方式

永久实现的结果或终点

相反,理解是一个动词,

它是一个过程,两方

进入一个共享空间

,在那里他们共同创建一个框架,在那里他们

定义

和解释

彼此现实和真理的意义和意义

让我们绕道而行,让我们

看看 我们用来谈论

误解的语言

我们经常说诸如他们扭曲

了我所说的

或者他们误解了我所说

的这些表达中的常见观点

是,对方没有以某种方式

复制

和反映我的内心世界和我的内心

想法

现在这是有问题的 看它

是因为按照

这种逻辑要理解你

必须成为

米开朗基罗,你知道

有人可以从一块石头上雕刻出一种

如此完美的形式,以至于它

毫无疑问地代表了它的主题的

真相

现在你我都知道我们可以 并不是所有人都

像米开朗基罗一样熟练,

所以我想向您建议,如果我们

需要重新

想象我们如何看待理解,我们

需要将其

视为合作

如果您将理解理解为这种

协作过程

发生在您正在使用粘土进行成型的共享空间中,那么您将

意识到双方必须

一起努力

,您的行动来添加

和减少知识和

粘土层 不是孤立

的 它们会影响

对方

的动作 你们俩都必须动态地

适应对方正在发生的

事情 你们必须创造性地协调

以形成一个形状

谈论是必不可少的 谈论

发生的

事情 过去现在正在发生的事情

以及

未来值得

追求的目标

当您将理解视为

塑造的协作过程时,

您还会意识到您必须

接受多种可能性

,有时这些可能性

是矛盾的

,您必须保持在其中

那些

即使泥土崩塌也

必须重建

的可能性 y 并

达到永久或完美的理解状态

,就像塑造所有理解

一样,基本上都是片面的和不完整的

,还有进一步改进的

余地 已经

看到人们

在这个协作的成型过程中失败了,有些人成功了

所以我们做得不好,你

可以

做些什么来做得更好我

发现那些在理解过程中失败

的人是那些看到理解的人 因为

知道

他们将其视为发现事实的行为,

您知道他们倾向于

根据这些事实和立场来展示自己,这

有点像 13 岁的我

对我父亲的问题所做的那样

,他们倾向于寻求类似的事实和

立场 别人

知道就像听力

理解是聆听的过程

这是关于

看到想法之间的联系,

更重要

的是意义 和这些

立场的意义 想法

对他人的看法 对你自己和在那种

关系中

为什么它们很重要

我发现

人们为什么无法理解的另一个原因是

因为他们喜欢

他们绝对喜欢得出结论

并且他们这样做是基于不明和

毫无疑问的假设

假设是我们

对世界如何运作的信念

事物是如何联系起来的 哪些行动

会导致

结果以及值得

追求的目标实际上

假设是

逻辑

和推理流动的跳板 所以现在

你知道一点 你知道一点点

为什么我们会失败所以我们可以做些什么

来更好地在这个过程中做得更好

我们可以做的第一件事

是我们可以

在对话的早期开始识别和阐明我们的假设,

在你允许假设存在时邀请对方做同样的

事情

您允许对现实进行多种

解释的共享空间

,您可以在其中进行实验并查看

假设是否不匹配

或者他们是否重叠

了你在这个过程中可以做的另一件事

是开始

关心语义单词

对每个人来说并不意味着同样的事情

他们没有客观真理我们

需要澄清我们口语背后的含义

这意味着我们需要 为了

在对话的早期定义事物,我们需要

提供示例

在我们说话的方式中使用更多的同义词,以便

更清楚地说明上下文我们需要

搜索其他人所说的话背后的非明显含义

你可以通过检查和重新来做到这一点

-检查

你所听到的内容的本质,直到

多种方式解释和说出

对方可以接受的想法

以便更好地识别假设

和澄清含义

我们需要开始变得好奇我们

需要学习如何探索

和提出更好的问题 特别

是假设

问题假设问题是当您

在讨论期间提出假设场景时假设

问题,例如您可以

如果 x 那么什么 li 关注对方的反应

跟进为什么和为什么不,

所以你已经在这里待了大约 10

分钟 你听到了还是

理解了

你现在觉得你更

清楚理解的过程需要什么

下次您与某人互动时,您将把它带入您的生活

下次您与孩子坐下来时

您的父母伴侣

朋友同事在工作中您

想要建立理解

您想要共同创建共享

框架您打算 记住要

在思想中纠缠不清,

所以记住你今天听到的单词

,今晚与另一个人分享

,你可以和他辩论

你今天听到的想法背后的假设,

以澄清含义和逻辑,

原因,

以便您可以协作塑造

自己对理解的深刻理解

谢谢

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