Why democracy matters Rory Stewart

so little Billy goes to school and he

sits down and the teacher says what does

your father do and little Billy says my

father plays the piano in an opium den

so teacher rings up to the parents and

says very shocking story from little

Billy today just heard that he claimed

that you play the piano in an opium den

and the father says I’m very sorry yes

it’s true I lied but how can I tell an

eight-year-old boy that his father is a

politician now as a politician myself

standing in front of you are indeed

meeting any stranger anywhere in the

world when I eventually revealed the

nature of my profession they look at me

as though I’m somewhere between a snake

a monkey and an iguana and through all

of this I feel strongly that something

is going wrong 400 years of maturing

democracy colleagues and Parliament who

seemed to me as individuals reasonably

impressive an increasingly educated

energetic informed population and yet a

deep deep sense of disappointment my

colleagues in Parliament include my new

intake family doctors businesspeople

professors distinguished economists

historians writers army officers ranging

from Colonels down to regimental

sergeant majors all of them however

including myself as we walk underneath

those strange stone gargoyles just down

the road feel that we become less than

the sum of our parts feel as though we

have become profoundly diminished

and this isn’t just a problem in Britain

it’s a problem across the developing

world and a middle-income countries too

in Jamaica for example look at Jamaican

members of parliament you meet them and

they’re often people who are Rhodes

Scholars who’ve studied at Harvard or

Princeton and yet you go down to

downtown Kingston and you are looking at

one of the most depressing sites that

you can see in any middle-income country

in the world a dismal depressing

landscape of burnt and half abandoned

buildings and this has been true for 30

years in the handover in 1979-1980

between one Jamaican leader who was the

son of a Rhodes Scholar and a QC to

another who done a economics doctorate

at Harvard over 800 people were killed

in the streets in drug-related violence

10 years ago however the promise of

democracy seemed to be extraordinary

George W Bush stood up in his State of

the Union address in 2003 and said that

democracy was the force that would beat

most of the ills of the world he said

because democratic governments respect

their own people and respect their

neighbors freedom will bring peace

distinguished academics at the same time

argued that democracies had these

incredible range of side benefits they

would bring prosperity security

overcomes sectarian violence ensure that

states would never again Harbor

terrorists since then what’s happened

well what we’ve seen is the creation in

places like Iraq and Afghanistan of

democratic systems of government which

haven’t had any of those side benefits

in Afghanistan for example we haven’t

just had one election or two elections

we’ve gone through three elections

presidential and parliamentary and what

do we find do we find a flourishing

civil society of vigorous rule of law

and good security no what we find that

Afghanistan is a judiciary

that is weak and corrupt a very limited

civil society which is largely

ineffective a media which is beginning

to get on to its feet but a government

that’s deeply unpopular perceived as

being deeply corrupt and security that

is shocking security that’s terrible

in Pakistan in lots of sub-saharan

Africa again you can see democracy and

elections are compatible with corrupt

governments with states that are

unstable and dangerous and when I have

conversations with people I remember

having a conversation for example in

Iraq with a community that asked me

whether the riot we were seeing in front

of us this was a huge mob ransacking a

provincial council building was a sign

of the new democracy the same I felt was

true in almost every single one of the

middle and developing countries that I

went to and to some extent the same is

true of us well what is the answer to

this is the answer to just give up on

the idea of democracy well obviously not

it would be absurd if we were to engage

again and the kind of operations we were

engaged in in Iraq and Afghanistan if we

would suddenly find ourselves in a

situation in which we were imposing

anything other than the democratic

system anything else would run contrary

to our values it would run contrary to

the wishes of the people on the ground

it would run contrary to our interests

I remember in Iraq for example that we

went through a period of feeling that we

should delay democracy we went through a

period of feeling that the lesson

learned from Bosnia was that elections

held too early enshrined sectarian

violence enshrined extremist parties so

in Iraq in 2003 a decision was made

let’s not have elections for two years

let’s invest in voter education let’s

invest in democratization the result was

that I found stuck outside my office a

huge crowd of people the secchi of

photograph taken in Libya but I saw the

same scene in Iraq

of people standing outside screaming for

the elections and when I went out and

said what is wrong with the interim

provincial council what is wrong with

the people that we have chosen there is

a Sunni Shey there’s a Shia Shaikh

there’s the seven leaders of the seven

major tribes there’s a Christian there’s

a Sabian there are female

representatives there’s every political

party in this council what’s wrong with

the people that we chose the answer came

the problem isn’t the people that you

chose the problem is that you chose them

I have not met in Afghanistan in even

the most remote community anybody who

does not want a say in who governs them

most remote community I’ve never met a

villager who does not want a vote so we

need to acknowledge that despite the

dubious statistics despite the fact that

84 percent of people in Britain feel

politics is broken despite the fact that

when I was in Iraq we did an opinion

poll in 2003 and asked people what

political systems they preferred and the

answer came back that seven percent

wanted the United States five percent

wanted France three percent wanted

Britain and nearly 40 percent wanted

Dubai which is after all not a

democratic state at all but a relatively

prosperous minor monarchy democracy is a

thing a value for which we should be

fighting but in order to do so we need

to get away from instrumental arguments

we need to get away from saying

democracy matters because of the other

things it brings we need to get away

from feeling in the same way Human

Rights matters because of the other

things it brings or women’s rights

matters for the other things this brings

why should we get away from those

arguments because they’re very dangerous

if we set about saying for example

torture is wrong because it doesn’t

extract good information or we’d say you

need women’s rights because it

stimulates II can

growth by doubling the size of the

workforce you leave yourself open to

position where the government of North

Korea can turn around and say well

actually we’re having a lot of success

extracting good information with our

torture at the moment or the government

of Saudi Arabia to say our economic

growth so okay thank you very much

considerably better than yours so maybe

we don’t need to go ahead with this

program on women’s rights the point

about democracy is not instrumental it’s

not about the things that it brings the

point about democracy is not that it

delivers legitimate effective prosperous

rule of law it’s not that it guarantees

peace with itself or with its neighbors

the point of our democracy is intrinsic

democracy matters because it reflects an

idea of a quality and an idea of Liberty

reflects an idea of dignity the dignity

of the individual the idea that each

individual should have an equal vote an

equal say in the formation of their

government but if we’re really to make

democracy vigorous again we’re ready to

Reaver fie it we need to get involved in

the new projects of the citizens and the

politicians democracy is not simply a

question of structures it is a state of

mind it is an activity and part of that

activity is honesty after I speak to you

today I’m going on a radio program

called any questions and the thing you

would have noticed about politicians on

these kind of radio programs is that

they never ever say that they don’t know

the answer to a question doesn’t matter

what it is the answer about child tax

credits the future of the Penguins and

the South Antarctic ask to hold forth on

whether or not the developments in

Chungking contribute to sustainable

development and carbon capture and we

will have an answer for you we need to

stop that to stop pretending to be

omniscient beings politicians also need

to learn occasionally to say that

certain things that voters want

certain things that voters have been

promised maybe things that we cannot

deliver or perhaps that we feel we

should not deliver and the second thing

we should do is understand the genius of

our societies our societies have never

been so educated have never been so

energized have never been so healthy

have never known so much cared so much

will wanted to do so much and it is a

genius of the local one of the reasons

why we’re moving away from banqueting

halls such as the one in which we stand

banqueting walls with extraordinary

images on the ceiling of Kings enthroned

the entire drama played out here on this

face where the King of England had his

head locked off why we’ve moved from

spaces like this Thrones like that

towards the town hall is we’re moving

more and more towards the energies of

our people and we need to tap that that

can mean different things in different

countries in Britain it could mean

looking to the French learning from the

French getting directly elected mayor’s

in place in a French commune system in

Afghanistan it could have mean instead

of concentrating on the big presidential

and parliamentary elections we should

have done what was in the Afghan

Constitution from the very beginning

which is to get direct local elections

going at a district level and elect

people’s provincial governors but for

any of these things to work the honesty

and language the local democracy it’s

not just a question of what politicians

do it’s question of what the citizens do

for politicians to be honest the public

needs to allow them to be honest and the

media which mediates between the

politicians and the public needs to

allow those politicians to be honest if

local democracy is to flourish it is

about the active and informed engagement

of every citizen in other words if

democracy is to be rebuilt is to become

again vigorous and

vibrant it is necessary not just for the

public to learn to trust their

politicians but for the politicians to

learn to trust the public thank you very

much

所以小比利去上学,他

坐下来,老师说

你父亲是做什么的,小比利说我

父亲在鸦片馆弹钢琴,

所以老师打电话给父母,

今天刚刚听到的小比利的一个非常令人震惊的故事 他

声称你在鸦片馆弹钢琴

而父亲说我很抱歉是的

这是真的我撒了谎但我怎么能告诉一个

八岁的男孩他的父亲

现在是一名

政客 在你面前确实

遇到了世界上任何地方的任何陌生人

当我最终揭示

了我的职业性质时,他们看着我

,好像我在

蛇、猴子和鬣蜥之间的某个地方,通过这

一切,我强烈地感觉到有什么

错了 400 年成熟的

民主同事和议会

在我看来,他们作为个人相当

令人印象深刻,受过越来越多的教育,

精力充沛,知识渊博,但

我的同事却深感失望

议会中的学生包括我新

入学的家庭医生 商人

教授 杰出的经济学家

历史学家 作家 军官,

从上校到

军士长,他们所有人,但

包括我自己,当我们走

在路上那些奇怪的石像鬼下面时

,感觉我们变得

比不上 我们各部分的总和感觉好像我们

已经被严重削弱了

,这不仅是

英国的问题,也是整个

发展中国家和牙买加的中等收入国家的问题

,例如看看

你遇到的牙买加议会议员和

他们通常是

在哈佛或普林斯顿学习过的罗德学者

,但你去

金斯顿市中心,你正在寻找

世界上

任何中等收入国家都能看到

的最令人沮丧的地方之一

被烧毁和半废弃的

建筑物令人沮丧的令人沮丧的景观,这

在 1979 年至 1980 年的移交中已经持续了 30 年

一位牙买加领导人

是罗德学者的儿子,另一位是 QC 与

另一位

在哈佛大学攻读经济学博士学位的领导人之间,10 年前有 800 多人

在与毒品有关的暴力事件中在街头丧生,

但民主的承诺

似乎是非凡的

乔治 W 布什

在 2003 年的国情咨文中站出来说,

民主是战胜

世界上大多数弊病的力量,他说,

因为民主政府尊重

自己的人民并尊重他们的

邻国,自由将带来和平,

杰出的学者 同时

认为,民主国家拥有这些

令人难以置信的附带利益,它们

将带来繁荣,安全

克服宗派暴力,确保

国家永远不会再窝藏

恐怖分子,从那时起发生的事情

很好,我们看到的是在

伊拉克和阿富汗等地创造了

民主 在阿富汗没有任何附带好处的政府系统,

例如我们

不止一次或两次选举

我们经历了三次

总统和议会选举

我们发现了什么 我们发现了一个繁荣

的法治

和良好安全的公民社会 我们发现

阿富汗是一个司法

机构 软弱且腐败 一个非常有限的

公民社会 很大程度上是

无效的 媒体

开始站稳脚跟 但一个

非常不受欢迎的政府被认为

是严重腐败 安全

令人震惊 安全

在巴基斯坦很多地方都很糟糕

再次撒哈拉非洲,你可以看到民主和

选举与腐败的

政府和

不稳定和危险的国家兼容,当我

与人们交谈时,我记得

伊拉克与一个社区进行过交谈,该社区问我

我们所看到的骚乱是否在

在我们面前这是一个巨大的暴徒洗劫

省议会大楼

是新民主的标志我也觉得

在我去过的几乎每一个

中间国家和发展中国家

都是

如此,在某种程度上,我们也是

如此 如果我们再次参与

以及我们

在伊拉克和阿富汗参与的那种行动将

荒谬的 这将违背

当地人民的意愿

这将违背我们的利益

我记得在伊拉克,例如,我们

经历了我们

应该推迟民主的时期 我们经历

了吸取教训的时期

来自波斯尼亚的是,选举

举行得太早了 教派

暴力 极端主义政党因此

在 2003 年的伊拉克做出了一个决定,

让我们两年不举行选举

让我们 投资于选民教育 让我们

投资于民主化 结果

是我发现一大群人被困在我的办公室外面,这

是在利比亚拍摄的照片,但我

在伊拉克看到了同样的场景

,人们站在外面

为选举而尖叫,当我去的时候 出来

说临时

省议会有什么问题

我们选择的人有什么问题

有逊尼派 谢伊 有什叶派谢赫

有七个主要部落的七位领袖

有基督徒

有萨比安 有女性

代表 有

这个议会中的每个政党

我们选择的人有什么问题 答案来

了 问题不在于你

选择的人 问题在于你选择了他们

我在阿富汗没有见过,即使是

在最偏远的社区 任何

没有见过的人 想要对谁管理他们

最偏远的社区有发言权 我从来没有遇到

过不想投票的村民,所以我们

需要承认,尽管

尽管我在伊拉克时,我们

在 2003 年进行了一次民意调查并询问人们

他们更喜欢哪种政治制度,但

答案却是 7% 的人

想要 美国 5%

想要法国 3% 想要

英国,近 40% 想要

迪拜,毕竟迪拜根本不是一个

民主国家,而是一个相对

繁荣的小君主制民主国家

,这是我们应该为之奋斗的价值,

但为了这样做 我们

需要摆脱工具性争论

我们需要摆脱说

民主之所以重要,是因为

它带来了其他东西 我们需要摆脱

同样的感觉 人权很

重要,因为

它带来的其他东西或妇女权利

这带来的其他事情

为什么我们应该摆脱这些

争论,因为

如果我们开始说例如

侵权,它们是非常危险的 ure 是错误的,因为它没有

提取好的信息,或者我们会说你

需要妇女的权利,因为它

通过将劳动力规模增加一倍来刺激 II 可以增长,

你让自己

处于朝鲜政府

可以转身说的位置上 好吧,

实际上,我们现在

用我们的

酷刑或

沙特阿拉伯政府说我们的经济

增长很好,非常成功地提取了很好的信息,谢谢你

比你的要好得多,所以也许

我们不需要继续 有了

这个关于妇女权利的计划,

关于民主的意义不是工具性的,

不是关于它带来的东西,

关于民主的意义不是在于它

提供合法有效的繁荣

法治,不是它保证

与自己或与邻国和平

的意义 我们的民主是内在的

民主问题,因为它反映

了一种品质观念,一种自由

观念反映了一种尊严

观念 个人认为每个

人都应该有平等的投票权

,在组建政府时拥有平等的发言权,

但如果我们真的要让

民主再次充满活力,我们已经准备

好接受它,我们需要参与到政府

的新项目中来 公民和

政治家 民主不仅仅是

结构的问题,它是一种

心态,它是一种活动,其中一部分

是诚实在我今天与你交谈之后,

我将参加一个

名为任何问题和你的事情的广播节目

这类广播节目中,政客们会注意到的是,

他们从不说他们不知道

一个问题

的答案不管它是什么关于儿童税收

抵免的答案 企鹅和南极洲的未来

询问重庆

的发展是否

有助于可持续

发展和碳捕获,我们

将为您提供答案,我们需要

停止这种情况以停止假装

无所不知 gs 政客还

需要偶尔学会

说选民想要的

某些事情 选民已经

承诺的某些事情可能是我们无法

兑现的事情,或者我们认为我们

不应该兑现的事情,

我们应该做的第二件事是了解

我们的天才 社会 我们的社会从未

受过如此教育 从未如此

充满活力 从未如此健康

从未有过如此多的关心 如此多的

意愿 想要做的如此多 这

是当地的天才

我们要离开的原因之一 从宴会

厅,例如我们所站立的

宴会厅,

在国王的天花板上带有非凡图像的宴会厅登上

了整个戏剧在这张

英格兰国王

被锁住的面孔上上演了为什么我们要离开这样的

空间 像

市政厅这样的王座是我们越来越倾向于

我们人民的能量,我们需要利用它

在不同的地方可能意味着不同的

事情 在英国,这可能意味着

向法国学习

法国

在阿富汗的法国公社系统中直接选举市长,

这可能意味着我们不

应该专注于大型总统

和议会选举,而是

应该做阿富汗的事情

宪法从一

开始就是

在地区一级进行直接地方选举并选举

人民的省长,但

要使这些事情中的任何一个发挥诚实

和语言地方民主的作用,这

不仅仅是政治家

做什么的问题,而是什么的问题 公民

为政客诚实做事 公众

需要让他们诚实,在政治家和公众

之间进行调解的媒体

需要

让这些政治家诚实 如果

地方民主要蓬勃发展,那

就是积极和知情的参与

换句话说,

如果要重建民主,就要重新变得

充满活力,并且

v 显然,不仅

公众有必要学会信任他们的

政客,而且政客们也必须

学会信任公众,非常感谢