How to reduce the wealth gap between Black and white Americans Kedra Newsom Reeves

Transcriber: Joseph Geni
Reviewer: Joanna Pietrulewicz

As last recorded
by the US Federal Government,

the median wealth for a white family
in the United States was 171,000 dollars

and the median wealth for a Black family
was just 17,000 dollars,

a 10x different over 150 years
after the end of slavery.

I think first we have to ask ourselves,
what is wealth really?

Well, wealth is all of your assets,
all of the things that you own,

minus all of your liabilities.

Assets are things like your car,
your house, your savings account,

your checking account, your investments,
if you own other properties,

your business.

Well, that gap, that 10x gap,

is partially because for many years,

decades in fact,

Black Americans
were left off of that ladder

and didn’t really have access to it.

Well, why are we talking about this now?

Well, in 2020, in the midst of
a global pandemic and a looming recession,

inequities are really laid bare

across nearly every system
in the United States:

health care, education,
criminal justice and finance,

and people were moved
to take action online, in streets,

in meetings at work,
in corporate boardrooms.

And I, as a consultant, started
having conversations with clients

that I thought I would never have.

I guess the question
that I’d been asking myself is,

how do we make sure that in this moment,
this results in action and progress

that starts to close that wealth gap
for Black versus white Americans?

So who am I?

My name is Kedra Newsom Reeves.

I am a consultant
for banking institutions,

hedge funds, asset managers.

But before any of that,

I am a Black American
who is the descendant of slaves.

And when we talk about the wealth gap,

it’s really important
to understand the history,

so I thought I’d tell a little story
about a family, my family,

and how policy intersects with wealth.

So we’ll start with
my great-great-grandfather.

He was a man named Silas Newsom,

and Silas was born a slave
outside Nashville, Tennessee,

on Newsom Station,

where he and his family
worked on a quarry.

He didn’t own anything.

He didn’t own his home.
He didn’t own property.

He didn’t really even own his own body,

his own labor, his children.

Any of those things, all of those things,

were here to create wealth
for someone else.

So we believe that he was a servant

during the Civil War
for a Confederate general

who was actually fighting
to keep him enslaved,

so he really had no wealth,
he had no control over his life.

Well, at the end of slavery,
there was a policy opportunity.

There was a question:

what do we do for
the hundreds of years of slavery

now that we are ending slavery
and the country is coming together?

And there was a choice.

We could make a settlement
with the slaves,

or we could make a settlement
with the slave owners.

Well, the slaves had no power
to advocate for themselves in that moment,

and the country had to be united,

so the federal government decided
to give that settlement to slave owners,

essentially giving them money
for the property that they had lost

at the end of the war.

And not their physical property,
not their homes, but people,

the slaves that had provided
free labor for years and decades.

So Silas, at the end of the Civil War,

had no wealth.

He was free but had no wealth.

He became a sharecropper.

My great-grandfather Silas was born

a number of years
after the end of slavery,

and he was drafted to serve in World War I

along with 350,000
other Black American soldiers

in segregated units.

He served in the war.

When he came back to the United States,

at the end of the war,
there was very anti-Black sentiment.

The economy was compressing,
there were a lot of stressors,

and Black people could not get land,
they could not get loans for homes,

they really could not acquire any credit
to build wealth over time,

so he also became a farmer.

And he had a son, also named Silas –

there are a lot of Silases in my family –

my grandfather.

My grandfather Silas was also a soldier
and fought in World War II.

After World War II,

the US Federal Government
passed the GI Bill,

which provided support for veterans.

And the bill provided
for building of hospitals,

student loans

and, most importantly for wealth-building,
low-interest home mortgages for veterans.

In the years following the war,

the GI Bill accounted for
four billion dollars of funding

to nine million veterans.

But Black veterans
largely did not benefit.

So Silas, my grandfather,
came back to Nashville, Tennessee,

and he married my grandmother,
whose name is Cinderella.

Yes, my grandmother’s name was Cinderella.

And they had eight children.

But they never bought a home.

And the highlight of their housing journey

was moving into
a new public housing project

with their children

and paying rent for that housing project,

which in terms of the quality of housing
was fantastic for them and a step up,

but did not allow them to build wealth.

My father, another soldier,

a 20-year veteran
of the United States Marines,

bought his first home in his early 50s,

but it took four generations
for our family to move into homeownership

and begin to build ownership
and equity in a home.

That’s one family’s story,
and I skipped a lot of things

that happened between
the end of slavery and today:

redlining, housing discrimination
before the Fair Housing Act in the 1970s,

the really important role
that Black-owned banks played

in building Black communities,

the Savings and Loan Crisis of the 1980s,

which crushed a lot of Black banks,

and the subprime crisis in 2008,

which stripped a lot of Black
and brown homeowners of their homes.

There’s a lot of history there,

but that story tells you a bit
about how we get to this 10x gap

where we are today.

Now, certainly, as we think
about the size of that gap,

it is critical for the Federal Government
to take a number of actions.

That said, financial institutions
play a really important role

in providing access to credit,
access to capital,

to build communities

and allow Black communities to thrive.

We have to be clear;

managing 17,000 dollars better
does not get us there.

Better education does not get us there.

Access to credit and capital are critical.

So I want to talk
about four solutions today

that financial institutions can contribute
to start to close the wealth gap.

Number one is getting
more people on the ladder,

getting more people banked.

We know today that
about half of Black Americans

are un- or underbanked.

Unbanked means that
you don’t have a banking account.

Underbanked means
that you have a bank account

but you use alternative services
for check-cashing or payday lending

or paying bills.

And that’s not just expensive
from a transaction perspective

in terms of the fees that you pay,

it’s also expensive in terms of the time
that you commit to paying a bill.

Think about how you pay
your utility bill today.

It probably comes
out of your checking account.

You don’t even think about it.

You set it up in advance,
and it’s automatic.

Well, if you’re unbanked,

you are probably going
to get a money order somewhere,

physically, a piece of paper.

You then travel to City Hall or your DMV

to pay that bill.

About 40 percent of people
who are unbanked

say they are unbanked because they think
they don’t have the minimum amount

to really maintain a checking account.

Well, that’s just not true.

In the last several years,

credit unions, community banks
and major banking institutions

have created low-cost, no-minimum
checking and savings account products

specifically made for this population.

So we have an issue with awareness.

Banks, community partners and others

have to work together to increase
the awareness of these products

in communities that need them,

so that we can start to reduce
the number of people

who are un- and underbanked

and get them on the ladder
that we talked about earlier.

The challenge is about 28 percent
of Black and Latinx families

are credit-invisible,

which means that you have
a thin credit file or no credit file.

And the way that credit works
and creditworthiness assessments work

is to say, if you can prove

that you have paid credit back
consistently previously,

then I can lend you more credit.

It’s kind of a chicken
or an egg situation.

The interesting thing is that banks
and financial technology companies

have really innovated in recent years
to use alternative data –

cable bills,

utility bills,

rent payments, etc. –

to show that you’re able
to consistently make payments.

The additional challenge on this one,
unlike the last one,

which was more about awareness,

is that you need to have
regulatory support to do these things.

You need to prove to regulators

that you are able
to fairly use alternative data

to lend credit to marginalized groups.

What we need to see is,
from the Federal Government

and the banking industry,

to come together
to create innovation sandboxes

to start to use alternative data
to expand to marginalized groups.

Well, what about communities?

Without community wealth,

individual wealth, in a way,
is on an island.

And if you go into most
major cities in the United States

to most communities of color,

what you’ll find
is underinvested communities.

For every economic crisis,
these communities have suffered severely.

For every economic boom,
they have not benefited.

And so what we’re seeing
in a number of cities across the country,

and I’ll use Chicago as an example,

is the partnerships occurring

between banking institutions,

philanthropists,

the city and community leaders

to invest hundreds of millions of dollars

to build community resources

and communities that have
historically been disinvested.

Lastly, we’ve got to talk about business,

and not just small businesses.

Now, when you have individual stability
and a banking institution,

and you have access to credit,
and when you have community wealth,

those are all fantastic things,
but we need also job creation.

Take all of the new tech companies,

and I say “new” because now
they’re not so new,

but take Facebook, Google, Amazon.

At some point, all of those companies
were sole proprietorships

with one employee

or a few employees

that were building a technology
that was not yet proven.

What those companies received early on

was venture capital money.

And when you look
at venture capital today,

only one percent of venture capital funds
go to Black founders.

So if Black entrepreneurs
are largely shut out of those networks

they’re not able to grow,

and the only way for that to change

is from within the industry itself.

In this generation, we must not only
be talking about thriving businesses

in Black communities.

We must also be talking
about seeing more Black-owned

and founded businesses going public.

Those are just four solutions.

There’s many other things
that can and should be done

to close the wealth gap.

This gap is not new.

It was born and perpetuated
by federal policy, social constructs

and business practice over time,

and all of those things need to change

to start to close the gap.

Financial institutions
play a really critical role

at the individual level,
at the community level

and at the business level.

It’s important to our families,
it’s important to our communities

and it’s important to our economy.

Instead of talking about
how the gap continues to grow,

let’s begin to close the gap now.

Thank you.

抄写员:Joseph
Geni 审稿人:Joanna Pietrulewicz

根据美国联邦政府的最新记录,美国

白人家庭的财富中位数为
171,000 美元

,而黑人家庭的财富中
位数仅为 17,000 美元

,150 年来相差 10 倍
奴隶制结束后。

我认为首先我们必须问自己,
财富到底是什么?

好吧,财富是你所有的资产,
你拥有的所有东西,

减去你所有的负债。

资产是诸如您的汽车
、房屋、储蓄账户

、支票账户、投资、
如果您拥有其他财产、

您的企业之类的东西。

嗯,这个差距,那个 10 倍的差距

,部分是因为

多年来,事实上,几十年来,

美国黑人
被排除在这个阶梯之外

,也没有真正接触到它。

好吧,为什么我们现在谈论这个?

好吧,在 2020 年,在
全球大流行和迫在眉睫的衰退中,美国几乎每个系统的

不平等现象都暴露无遗

医疗保健、教育、
刑事司法和金融

,人们被转移
到网上采取行动, 在街道上,

在工作会议上,
在公司董事会中。

而我,作为一名顾问,开始

我认为我永远不会有的客户进行对话。

我想我一直在问自己的问题是,

我们如何确保在这一刻,
这会导致行动和进步

,开始缩小
美国黑人与白人之间的贫富差距?

那我是谁?

我的名字是 Kedra Newsom Reeves。


是银行机构、

对冲基金、资产管理公司的顾问。

但在此之前,

我是一个美国黑人
,是奴隶的后裔。

当我们谈论贫富差距时

,了解历史真的很
重要,

所以我想我会
讲一个关于家庭、我的家庭

以及政策如何与财富相交的小故事。

所以我们将从
我的曾曾祖父开始。

他是一个名叫塞拉斯纽森的人,

塞拉斯出生
在田纳西州纳什维尔郊外的

纽森车站

,他和他的家人
在那里的一个采石场工作。

他什么都没有。

他没有自己的家。
他没有财产。

他甚至没有真正拥有自己的身体,

自己的劳动,自己的孩子。

任何这些东西,所有这些东西,

都是
为了给别人创造财富。

所以我们相信他

在内战期间
是一位联邦将军的仆人,

他实际上是在为奴役他而战

所以他真的没有财富,
他无法控制自己的生活。

好吧,在奴隶制结束时,
有一个政策机会。

有一个问题:

既然我们正在结束奴隶制
并且国家正在团结起来,我们为数百年的奴隶制做了什么?

还有一个选择。

我们可以
和奴隶

和解,也可以
和奴隶主和解。

好吧,那一刻奴隶们没有
为自己辩护的权力

,国家必须团结起来,

所以联邦政府决定
把这个和解给奴隶主,

本质上是给他们钱来
弥补他们最后失去的财产

的战争。

不是他们的有形财产,
不是他们的房屋,而是人

,多年来提供
免费劳动力的奴隶。

因此,在内战结束时,塞拉斯

没有财富。

他是自由的,但没有财富。

他成了佃农。

我的曾祖父塞拉斯在

奴隶制结束多年后出生

,他

与 350,000 名
其他黑人美国士兵一起被征召

在第一次世界大战中服役。

他在战争中服役。

当他回到美国时,

在战争结束时,
有非常反黑人的情绪。

经济紧缩
,压力大

,黑人拿不到土地
,拿不到房贷,久而久之

他们真的拿不到任何信贷
来积累财富,

所以他也成了农民。

他有一个儿子,也叫西拉斯——

我家有很多西拉斯——

我的祖父。

我的祖父塞拉斯也是一名
士兵,曾参加过二战。

二战后

,美国联邦政府
通过了《

退伍军人法案》,为退伍军人提供支持。

该法案规定
了建设医院、

学生贷款

以及最重要的是
为退伍军人提供的低息住房抵押贷款。

在战后的几年里

,GI 法案为 900 万退伍军人
提供了 40 亿美元的资金

但黑人退伍军人
在很大程度上没有受益。

于是,我的祖父赛拉斯
回到田纳西州的纳什维尔,

娶了我的祖母,
她的名字叫灰姑娘。

是的,我祖母的名字是灰姑娘。

他们有八个孩子。

但他们从未买过房子。

他们的住房之旅的亮点是与他们的孩子

一起搬进
一个新的公共住房项目

并为该住房项目支付租金,就

住房质量而言,这
对他们来说非常棒并且有进步,

但不允许他们建造 财富。

我的父亲是另一名士兵

,在美国海军陆战队服役 20 年

,他在 50 岁出头时买了他的第一套房子,

但我们家花了四
代人的时间才拥有房屋

并开始在房屋中建立所有权
和股权。

那是一个家庭的故事
,我跳过了

从奴隶制结束到今天发生的很多事情:

红线,
1970 年代公平住房法之前的住房歧视

,黑人拥有的银行

在建设黑人社区中发挥的真正重要作用,

1980 年代的储蓄和贷款危机

摧毁了许多黑人银行,

2008 年的次贷危机

剥夺了许多黑人
和棕色房主的家园。

那里有很多历史,

但这个故事告诉你一些
关于我们如何达到今天这个 10 倍的

差距。

现在,当然,当我们
考虑到这一差距的规模时

,联邦政府
必须采取一些行动。

也就是说,金融机构

在提供信贷
、资本

、建设社区

和让黑人社区蓬勃发展方面发挥着非常重要的作用。

我们必须清楚;

更好地管理 17,000 美元
并不能使我们达到目标。

更好的教育不会让我们到达那里。

获得信贷和资本至关重要。

所以我今天想谈谈

金融机构
可以为缩小贫富差距做出贡献的四种解决方案。

第一是让
更多的人上梯子,

让更多的人入金。

我们今天知道,
大约一半的美国黑人

没有银行账户或银行账户不足。

无银行账户意味着您没有银行账户。

银行不足
意味着您有一个银行账户,

但您使用替代服务
进行支票兑现或发薪日贷款

或支付账单。

从交易的

角度来看,

这不仅在您支付的费用方面很昂贵,而且在您承诺支付账单的时间方面也很昂贵

想想你
今天如何支付水电费。

它可能
来自您的支票账户。

你甚至不去想它。

你提前设置好了
,它是自动的。

好吧,如果你没有银行账户,

你可能会
在某个地方收到一张汇票,

实际上是一张纸。

然后您前往市政厅或您的

DMV 支付该账单。

大约 40%
没有银行账户的人

说他们没有银行账户是因为他们认为
自己没有

真正维持支票账户的最低金额。

好吧,那不是真的。

在过去的几年里,

信用合作社、社区银行
和主要银行机构

已经创建了专门针对这一人群的低成本、无最低限额的
支票和储蓄账户产品

所以我们在意识方面存在问题。

银行、社区合作伙伴和其他

人必须共同努力,
提高需要这些产品的社区对这些产品的认识

这样我们才能开始减少

没有银行账户和资金不足的人的数量,

让他们登上
我们谈到的阶梯 早些时候。

挑战在于大约 28%
的黑人和拉丁裔家庭

是信用不可见的,

这意味着您
的信用档案很薄或没有信用档案。

信用
和信用评估的工作方式

是说,如果你能

证明你以前一直偿还信用

那么我可以借给你更多的信用。

这是一种鸡
或蛋的情况。

有趣的是,银行
和金融科技公司

近年来确实进行了创新,
以使用替代数据——

电缆账单、

水电费、

租金支付等——

来表明你
能够持续付款。 与

上一个更关注意识的挑战不同,这一挑战的另一个挑战

是,您需要获得
监管支持才能做这些事情。

您需要向监管机构

证明您
能够公平地使用替代数据

来向边缘化群体提供信贷。

我们需要看到的是
,联邦政府

和银行业联合

起来创建创新沙箱

,开始使用替代
数据扩展到边缘化群体。

那么,社区呢?

没有社区财富,

个人财富在某种程度上
就在孤岛上。

如果你
走进美国大多数主要城市的

大多数有色人种社区,

你会
发现投资不足的社区。

对于每一次经济危机,
这些社区都遭受了严重的损失。

对于每一次经济繁荣,
他们都没有受益。

因此,我们
在全国许多城市看到

,我将以芝加哥为例,

银行机构、

慈善家

、城市和社区

领袖之间建立的伙伴关系投资数亿美元

来建设

社区资源和
历史上被撤资的社区。

最后,我们必须谈论商业,

而不仅仅是小企业。

现在,当你拥有个人稳定
和银行机构

,你可以获得信贷
,当你拥有社区财富时,

这些都是很棒的事情,
但我们还需要创造就业机会。

以所有新技术公司为例

,我说“新”是因为现在
它们不是那么新了,

但以 Facebook、谷歌、亚马逊为例。

在某些时候,所有这些公司
都是独资企业

,只有一名员工

或几名

员工正在开发一种
尚未得到证实的技术。

这些公司早期收到的

是风险投资资金。

当你看
今天的风险投资时,

只有百分之一的风险投资
资金流向了黑人创始人。

因此,如果黑人企业家
在很大程度上被排除在

他们无法成长的网络之外

,那么改变这种情况的唯一途径

就是从行业内部开始。

在这一代人中,我们不能
只谈论

黑人社区中蓬勃发展的企业。

我们还必须
谈论看到更多黑人拥有

和创立的企业上市。

这些只是四个解决方案。 为了缩小贫富差距,

还有很多其他的
事情可以而且应该做

这种差距并不新鲜。

随着时间的推移,联邦政策、社会结构和商业实践产生并延续了它

,所有这些都需要改变

才能开始缩小差距。

金融机构

在个人层面
、社区层面

和企业层面都发挥着非常关键的作用。

这对我们的家庭
很重要,对我们的

社区很重要,对我们的经济也很重要。

与其谈论
差距如何继续扩大,

不如让我们现在开始缩小差距。

谢谢你。