Why women and people of colour fall off the glass cliff

[Music]

so i spend most of my time

talking and thinking and writing about

women’s experiences in uk and u.s

workplaces

particularly black women’s experiences

and so for me understanding the glass

cliff the situation

that underrepresented leaders find

themselves in when they take on

leadership positions

only to find that their chances of

success have been limited before they

even begin

really was an eye-opener

now i’m aware that for a lot of people

this might be the first time you’re

hearing about the glass cliff

and so i think the easiest way into the

conversation is by starting with the

glass ceiling

that invisible but seemingly impossible

to break through barrier

that sits above the heads of women in

business and stops them from reaching

the absolute pinnacles of their

professional capabilities

we talk a lot about the glass ceiling

being there and what it’s like to live

and to work underneath it

but we don’t really talk about what

happens to those people who do

manage to break through i feel like we

maybe have this

shared imagination that if someone were

able to break through the glass ceiling

it would be onwards and upwards from

there you know the sky’s the limit

but in reality that’s not what often

happens

because all too often when somebody does

break through the glass ceiling

they find themselves in a new dangerous

position

they find themselves teetering on the

edge of the glass cliff

so i’m going to talk about

underrepresented people a lot in this

and that can mean so many different

things to different people in different

moments and different contexts

but i’m talking about those people who

are most underrepresented

at the most senior levels of business so

that is women

and that’s racially marginalized people

essentially anybody who’s not both white

and male and so the story often goes

that when underrepresented people take

over a business

that business seems to start to fail

and that’s really strange and if that’s

true that’s worth looking into

and so the times newspaper did look into

it

and they released an article with a

headline women on the board

a help or hindrance and they said what

i’ve just told you

that when women take over businesses at

those most senior levels

board member ceo that those businesses

seem to find themselves in a moment of

trouble

and so they concluded that women on the

board were in fact

bad for business and they were right

but just in one small way

in a hundred other much bigger much more

important ways they were absolutely

wrong

but we can start with where they were

right they were right that the research

does show

that when underrepresented people do

take on those most senior roles

that businesses do seem to be in a

moment of trouble

but it’s not like they want you to think

it’s not that we’ve you know

stomped our way into boardrooms only to

look around and think

oh god i don’t know what i’m doing here

it’s not that at all but the reason you

might think that

is that they haven’t told you the

beginning of the story

and the beginning of the story is what

we need to understand

if we want to see what’s stopping more

people who aren’t both white and male

from being successful when they take on

leadership

roles

so there’s a piece of research from the

university of exeter

and they looked at ftse 100 companies

and when they appointed

female leaders those businesses were

much more likely than average

to have already been in a consistent

period

of five months of poor performance

and that poor performance can look like

all kinds of things

it could be a reputational scandal where

the tarnish is likely to be passed on to

the new leader

it could be a hit to market valuations

or to profit but whatever that was

these businesses were all much more

likely than average

to have already been in a consistent

period of poor performance before that

new leader

was appointed and this isn’t a single

piece of research

and it’s not even limited to a single

country

researchers at the university of utah

did a really similar thing

but they didn’t just look at the

appointment of women they looked at the

appointment of women

and racially marginalized men and they

looked at fortune 500 companies over a

15-year period

so a huge data set and they found

exactly the same those businesses that

appointed

underrepresented leaders were much more

likely than average

to already be in a period of poor

performance

so maybe you’re listening to this and

you’re thinking well so what

so long as these people are getting an

opportunity why does it matter if the

businesses aren’t in perfect condition

before these people arrive

well one of the reasons it matters is

the narrative that that pushes back to

us

if an underrepresented person takes on a

role and their chances of being

successful

are limited before they even begin if

they do fail

if they do fall off that cliff the

message that we get back is

well of course they did someone like

that

that’s the not the right kind of person

to run a successful

business and so that message compounds

and we just internalize it

so i think all of this logically leads

us to two

questions the first of which is

why is this happening why

are businesses that are in trouble more

likely to appoint an underrepresented

leader

well it could be that in patriarchal

societies women are viewed as caregivers

as nurturers

and so research has shown that when a

business is in trouble

women are often appointed to lead not

for their ability to make

transformational change but because of

their perceived

soft skills for their ability to

re-engage that

workforce and to get them back motivated

again

but importantly because she’s not hired

for her ability to make transformational

change

research shows that she’s often not

given the tools or the time

necessary to make that change and so her

chances of falling off that cliff

are increased before she even begins

because of the limitations of the

imaginations

of the people who have brought her in

the second reason to paraphrase kristen

anderson who’s a psychology professor at

the university of houston

is that in business women might be seen

as more disposable

more expendable and that means they make

really good scapegoats

in that case if your business isn’t

doing well

bringing in a female leader could be a

real win-win scenario

if she comes in and is able to make that

transformational change then great your

business is transformed

but if she’s not all of the blame is

able to be put onto her shoulders

and she’s able to get pushed out of the

business pushed over that cliff

importantly the research then shows that

she’s more likely than not to be

replaced by a white

man a move known as the savior effect

and that savior effect signals to us to

shareholders investors employees

that the business is back in a safe pair

of hands

it’s back to business as usual and

really importantly that new

white male safe pair of hands is more

likely to be given

both the tools and the time necessary to

succeed

where the underrepresented person has

failed

so up until now we’ve been talking

about what happens when you are a

racially marginalized person

or a woman but as i said the majority of

my work

looks at black women so what happens

when we do take that more intersectional

look

when we think about the experiences of

people with not just one but

two marginalized identities

as you might imagine it’s not the best

story

if a new black woman takes over the most

senior role in the business

board member ceo we can safely assume

two things the first thing that we can

assume

as we’ve discussed is the business might

not be in great shape

and the second thing that we can assume

is that she’s likely to be managing a

large team of white men

that leadership layered just below her

her closest cohort

and we can assume that because in 2019

the lenient foundation

reported that white men make up about 30

of that

entry-level junior cohort but by time we

get to the c-suite

that’s actually ballooned up to 68

that means white men are the only group

whose representation

grows as they become more senior

or to put it a different way they’re the

only group

who experience the opposite of the glass

ceiling

instead of looking up and not being able

to see themselves reflected back at all

they look up and see nothing but

themselves at the most

senior levels there is of course until

they don’t

until they have a new boss who’s

somebody like a black woman

and the reason this matters is there’s

research from the university of texas

and the university of michigan

and they look to what happens to that

group of men

who are so used to seeing themselves

directly mirrored back

when they get a new boss who doesn’t

mirror both their whiteness and their

maleness

and what they found was amazing they

found that as soon as they get a boss

who doesn’t directly mirror them in both

of those ways

they report feeling less personally

connected to the business

less able to personally identify with it

and less personally invested in it

and that means that their work

performance suffered they did worse at

their jobs

now if a business is already in trouble

even the greatest leader is not going to

solve it single-handedly

she needs her team particularly her

senior team

and so if they’ve stopped doing their

jobs properly all they’re doing

is continuing to push her towards the

edge of that cliff

the second thing that same piece of

research found was that

they stopped doing a really important

part of any manager’s job

that’s managing their teams they stopped

developing

mentoring working with the people who

was their job to take care of but they

didn’t stop doing that equally

no they mostly stopped helping working

with developing

anyone in that team who was also

racially marginalized

and so in that way the glass cliff bites

twice

we’re not only pushing the existing

leader closer to the edge of their cliff

we’re stopping what could be this new

cohort of underrepresented leaders from

coming up

because we’re not giving them the same

support

guidance mentorship development that the

rest of their colleagues are getting

so i’m telling you this because i want

you to be a part

of making this change and that might

sound impossible you might be thinking

well

i can’t change businesses or charities

governments

any of the places where we see the glass

cliff playing out

but and stay with me for a second

you can because none of those things are

real

businesses government charities all of

these things they’re just groups of

people who’ve come together to do

something

and we’re a group of people who have

come together to do something

and so we can make that change

we can look at our own conscious and

unconscious biases

and we can decide that we see the value

in all people all of the time

not just some people when we have a

problem that they might be able to solve

or something that we might be able to

blame them for

so as angela davis says we have to act

as though it’s possible to change the

world

and you have to do it all of the time

and so that’s what i’m asking you to do

i’m asking you to look at yourself and

to decide that you are not going to be

part of pushing anybody else closer

towards the edge of their own cliff

and i want you to know that i’m going to

be right alongside you

trying to do the same

you

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所以我大部分时间都

在谈论、思考和撰写

女性在英国和美国

工作场所

的经历,尤其是黑人女性的经历

,所以对我来说,理解玻璃

悬崖

是代表人数不足的领导

者仅在

担任领导职务时所处的境地

发现他们的

成功机会在他们开始之前就已经被限制了,这

真的让我大开眼界,

现在我知道对于很多人来说,

这可能是你第一次

听说玻璃悬崖

,所以我认为 进入对话的最简单方法

是从玻璃天花板开始,它

是无形但似乎

不可能突破的屏障

,它位于商界女性的头顶

,阻止

她们达到专业能力的绝对顶峰。

我们经常谈论玻璃天花板

在那里以及在其下生活

和工作的感觉,

但我们并没有真正谈论那些人

会发生什么 那些

成功突破的人

很多时候,当有人确实

突破了玻璃天花板时,

他们发现自己处于一个新的危险

位置,

他们发现自己在玻璃悬崖的边缘摇摇欲坠,

所以我将在这里谈论

很多代表性不足的人

,这可能意味着很多

在不同的时刻和不同的背景下,不同的人会有不同的事情,

但我说的是那些

在最高级别的企业中代表性

最低的人,那就是女性,这是种族边缘化的人,

基本上是任何既不是白人

又不是男性的人,所以 故事经常这样说

,当代表性不足的人

接管一家企业时

,企业似乎开始失败

,这真的很糟糕 通用电气,如果这是

真的,那值得调查

,所以《泰晤士报》确实调查了

,他们发表了一篇文章,

标题是董事会上的女性

是帮助还是阻碍,他们说了

我刚刚告诉过你的

事情,当女性接管企业时 在

那些最高级别的

董事会成员首席执行官中,这些企业

似乎发现自己陷入了困境

,因此他们得出结论,

董事会中的女性实际上

对企业不利,她们是对的,

但只是百分百中的一小

部分 更大更

重要的方面他们绝对是

错误的,

但我们可以从他们正确的地方开始,

他们是正确的,研究

确实表明

,当代表性不足的人确实

担任那些最高级的职位时

,企业似乎确实陷入

了困境,

但这是 不像他们想让你认为

这不是我们知道你

跺着脚走进会议室只是为了

环顾四周然后想

哦天哪我不知道我在这里

做什么不是那样 除了你

可能认为

的原因之外,他们没有告诉你

故事的开始,而

故事的开始是

我们需要了解的,

如果我们想看看是什么阻止了更多

既不是白人又不是男性的人

埃克塞特大学

的一项研究

,他们研究了富时 100 家公司

,当他们任命

女性领导者时,这些企业

比平均水平

更有可能已经处于一致的

时期 五个月的糟糕表现

,而糟糕的表现看起来像

各种各样的事情,

这可能是一场声誉丑闻

,玷污可能会传递

给新的领导者,

这可能会打击市场估值

或利润,但不管是什么

在任命新领导人之前,这些企业都比平均水平更可能一直处于业绩不佳的时期,而这并不是

一项研究

,甚至不限于一个

国家

犹他大学的研究人员

做了一个非常相似的事情,

但他们不只关注

女性的任命,他们还关注女性

和种族边缘化男性的任命,他们

看起来 财富 500 强公司在

15 年期间

如此庞大的数据集,他们发现

完全相同的那些

任命

代表性不足的领导者的企业

比平均水平更有可能

已经处于业绩不佳的时期,

所以也许你正在听这个 而且

您想得很好,

只要这些人有

机会,为什么

在这些人顺利到达之前业务不处于完美状态,这

很重要,重要的原因

之一是回击我们的叙述

如果一个代表性不足的人担任一个

角色,并且他们

成功

的机会在他们开始之前就受到了限制,如果

他们确实失败了,

如果他们真的掉下悬崖

我们得到的信息

当然很好,他们做了这样的人

那不是

经营成功

企业的合适人选,因此信息复合

,我们只是将其内化,

所以我认为所有这些合乎逻辑地引导

我们提出两个

问题 首先是

为什么会发生这种情况 为什么

陷入困境的企业更有

可能任命代表性不足的

领导者,

这可能是在父权制

社会中,女性被视为照顾

者和养育者

,因此研究表明,当

企业陷入困境时

女性被任命为领导往往不是

因为她们有能力进行

转型变革,而是因为

她们认为

软技能能够

重新吸引

劳动力并让他们重新获得动力

但更重要的是,因为她没有

能力做出变革性

变革而被聘用

研究表明,她经常没有

得到做出改变所需的工具或时间

,因此她

跌倒的机会

甚至在她开始之前,她就已经从悬崖上跳了下来,

因为

那些把她带到她身上的人的想象力的限制

第二个原因是解释休斯顿大学心理学教授克里斯汀安德森的第二个原因

是,在商界女性可能被

视为 更多一次性

更易消耗,这

意味着如果您的业务表现不佳,

他们会成为真正的

替罪羊 您的

业务发生了转变,

但如果她不是所有的责任都

可以推到她的肩上,

并且她能够被赶出

企业被推下悬崖,

重要的是,研究表明

她更有可能

被一个

白人 一种被称为救世主效应的举动

,这种救世主效应向我们发出信号,向

股东投资者员工员工

表明企业已恢复安全

手,

它恢复了正常工作,而且

非常重要的是,新的

白人男性安全双手更有

可能

获得成功所需的工具和时间

,在代表性不足的人

失败的

情况下,直到现在我们一直在谈论

关于当你是一个

种族边缘化的人

或女性时会发生什么,但正如我所说,我的大部分

工作都

着眼于黑人女性,所以

当我们考虑更多人

的经历时会

发生什么

两个边缘化的身份,

正如你想象的那样,

如果一个新的黑人女性

担任商业董事会成员 CEO 中最高级的职位,这不是最好的故事,

我们可以安全地假设

两件事,正如我们所讨论的,我们可以假设的第一件事

是业务 可能

不是很好

,我们可以假设的第二件事

是,她可能正在管理一个

庞大的白人团队

,领导层就在

她最亲近的 c 之下。 哦

,我们可以假设,因为在 2019 年

,宽松基金会

报告说,白人男性约占

入门级初级队列的 30 人,但当我们

到达

实际激增至 68 人的 C-Suite 时,

这意味着白人男性是唯一的

代表

随着年龄的增长而增加的群体,

或者换一种说法,他们是

唯一

一个经历与玻璃

天花板

相反的群体,而不是抬头看,

完全看不到自己的倒影。

除了

他们自己处于最高

级别之外,当然有,

直到他们有一个像黑人女性一样的新老板,

这很重要的原因是

德克萨斯

大学和密歇根大学的研究

,他们看起来

那些习惯于看到自己

直接反映

在他们身上的男人会发生什么,当他们得到一个不

反映他们的白人和

男性特征的新老板时,

以及什么 他们发现很神奇 他们

发现一旦他们遇到一个

不直接以这两种方式反映他们的老板,

他们就会报告说感觉

与企业的个人联系

减少了,个人无法认同

它并且个人投资较少

意味着他们的工作

表现受到影响

如果企业已经陷入困境,

即使是最伟大的领导者也不会

单枪匹马地解决问题,

她需要她的团队,尤其是她的

高级团队

,所以如果他们已经停止做他们的

他们所做的一切

都是继续把她推向

悬崖

的边缘第二件事同一项

研究发现,

他们不再做

任何经理工作中非常重要的一部分,

即管理他们的团队,他们停止了

与他们合作的指导 那些

是他们的工作要照顾的人,但他们

并没有停止这样做,

他们大多停止

帮助开发

任何人 那个在

种族上也被边缘化的团队

,因此玻璃悬崖咬了

两次,

我们不仅将现有

领导者推向了悬崖边缘,

我们还阻止了

这群代表性不足的新领导者的

出现,

因为 我们没有为他们提供与其他同事相同的

支持

指导指导发展,

所以我告诉你这个是因为我希望

成为做出这种改变的一部分,这

听起来不可能,你可能想

得很好

我 不能改变企业或慈善

政府

任何我们看到玻璃悬崖正在上演的地方,

但和我在一起

你可以,因为这些东西都不是

真正的

企业政府慈善机构所有

这些东西它们只是团体

聚在一起

做某事的人

,我们是一

群聚在一起做某事的人

,所以我们可以做出改变,

我们可以看看我们自己的意识和

未知 有意识的偏见

,我们可以决定,我们

始终看到所有人的价值,

而不仅仅是某些人,当我们遇到

他们可能能够解决的问题

或我们可能会

责怪他们的

事情时,就像安吉拉戴维斯所说的那样 我们必须表现

得好像改变世界是可能的

,你必须一直这样做

,所以这就是我要你做的,

我要你看看自己,

决定你不去 成为

将其他人

推向自己悬崖边缘的一部分

,我想让你知道我

会在你身边

尝试做同样的

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