Reimagining the Economy to Save the Climate

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have you ever seen

2 million wildebeest running at

full pace across the serengeti it

happens every year

and it’s one of the great natural

wonders of the world

a couple of years ago i went with my

family to kenya to

watch it and there’s one part in the

masai mara where

the wildebeest need to cross the mara

river it’s not a wide river but there

are lots of hungry crocodiles

in it we watched quite frankly with

horror as we watched thousands

of wildebeests plunging over a cliff

down to the river across the rocks

lost children some broken bones

panic chaos some very happy and

fat crocodiles my 13 year old daughter

charlotte reminded us that just earlier

on we’ve seen just a mile down river

other wildebeest crossing the same river

in an

orderly way with no cliffs and avoiding

the crocodiles altogether

and she said well why would this group

put themselves in so much

danger so i actually asked some experts

and they said well actually we don’t

know the best we can come up with

is that this is how they’ve always done

it

for tens of generations they’ve been

going

over this cliff this is the way it is

this is how we’ve always done it and it

got me to thinking that

perhaps that’s the way that we are

running our world economy and we’re

running

our society why do we

run an economy that’s so unfair

that’s so vulnerable that’s so polluting

do we need to

no but we always have

why do we design our cities for

automobiles

rather than for people why do we spend

two trillion dollars a year

subsidizing the use of fossil fuels

why do we recycle only nine percent

of the things we use why do the richest

30 people in the world have more wealth

than the

poorest three billion in the world

why does the 25 year old stock broker

on wall street earn multiples of the 50

year old

teacher who’s devoted her entire life

to teaching underprivileged children

is it experience is it somehow that it’s

socially more useful

for the stockbrokers to do what they do

no no no it’s because we’ve always done

it that way

we are like the wilder beasts

now you could say so do we need to

change

can’t we just keep doing it the way

we’ve done it for generation after

generation after generation

well unfortunately not because just like

the wildebeest we’ve come

to a cliff you’ve seen the fires

the droughts the hurricanes the ice

melts

you’ve seen how year after year they are

getting worse

did you know that 19 of the 20 hottest

years in recorded history have happened

in the first

19 years of this century

now partly we’re a victim of our own

success we have been

spectacularly successful at growing our

economy

and growing our numbers quite frankly

the size of the world economy

in terms of the amount of extraction the

amount of stuff we produce

is now 20 times what it was 100 years

ago

and if the world economy keeps growing

and say three percent a year which

economists tell us is perfectly

reasonable that will be another

20-fold increase this century as well

so no wonder with this huge increase in

the human

footprint no wonder that we are messing

up that equilibrium that we’ve enjoyed

for 10

000 years during the holocene period and

we now

are having to change the name to the

anthropocene because for the first time

ever

humans can change the planet

itself so that’s why for example we are

losing species at a rate one thousand

times

the natural rate that’s why 2.5

billion people may be short of water by

2025

and that’s why we have the existential

crisis

of climate change during my lifetime

alone

emissions of greenhouse gases have gone

up six

fold so what do we need to do well

scientists tell us

that we need to reduce carbon emissions

by half

this decade in the 2020s and then by

half again

in the 2030s and half again in the 2040s

if we’re to achieve that

it will involve the most radical

reordering of the world economy that

we’ve ever

seen before we will need radical

system-wide change

not only in our energy systems but in

our urban planning

in our agriculture and food systems in

our transportation

in our manufacturing and in even

our consumption now one thing we know

for sure

is that we can’t get there by

incremental change

gradualism simply won’t do it we need

pretty radical change now sometimes when

you talk to management gurus

they like to talk about the need for

disruptive change

i always found that puzzling i didn’t

know why change needed to be disruptive

i mean why couldn’t we just have change

that would be less trouble and the

reason we need disruptive change is

because of a concept

that’s called path dependency it’s a

concept in the social sciences and

economics and basically

it says that we’re on a path and we know

the path is actually not the best path

we know there’s another path that’s

better but we aren’t able to get from

one of these

from the current path to the future path

in a gradual way and the reason is

we’ve got so much invested in the

current path we’ve got physical

investment

we’ve got social investment we’ve got

economic investment

and we’ve got a lot of vested interest

so the only way we can get to the better

path

is through jumping through

disruptive change and that’s why we need

it consider for example

transportation in the united states we

spend

nine billion hours each year

stuck in traffic this steals people’s

time

takes it away from their families it

lowers productivity

it increases pollution it causes tens of

thousands of premature deaths a year

and it hurts future generations because

of its toxic effect

on climate change is there a better way

well yes there certainly is

in the coming decade we could move to

electric autonomous

and shared transportation linked to

very high efficiency carbon-free public

transportation systems

if we did that we would only need half

of the roads that we have now

we’d have more green space more parks we

could have bicycling we could have

walking

we’d have healthier people cleaner air

more productivity

and we’d address the problem of climate

change but would it cost more no

it would actually cost less and we can

show that will it happen

i don’t know it would require some

things we don’t have

it would require a degree of cooperation

and

action by central governments and city

governments it would require coalitions

between technology companies energy

companies

transportation companies it would

require citizens to get behind this and

really push for it

and be part of it and it would require

even international cooperation which is

difficult

and what’s true for transportation is

true for many of the other things

the revolutions that we need to go

through we need

carbon neutral buildings by 2030 we need

to move from today’s

take make waste economy to tomorrow’s

circular economy and in all of these

areas we need

the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle to be

put together so that we get

disruptive change

but i know what you’re saying you’re

saying this is surely impossible

this scale of change in the decade is

impossible and you may be right

it will require degree of collective

action and international cooperation

that doesn’t exist in today’s

uncooperative world just look at the

current

pandemic for example and there are still

vested interests that need to be

overcome

but let me suggest there are actually

two areas of

real hope that could make this the

decisive

decade in the right direction the first

is economics which you may find boring

but you shouldn’t because it’s so

interesting and important

there was a time maybe 20 years ago when

the economics profession really

believed that it would be nice to act on

climate change and nature

and on addressing poverty and so on but

it cost a lot of money

and it would uh it would cost us jobs

perhaps

and it would make us less productive

less competitive

so politicians stayed away we now know

that that’s actually the economics of

the last century

today we know that for example smart

climate policy will lead to more

economic efficiency

it will drive new technologies and

it will lower risks whether the risks

for a small farmer or a huge corporation

and combined these three three things

lead to a

dynamism in the economy more

competitiveness

more jobs and much much better higher

quality

of life future so that’s the first good

news

there’s a second piece of good news

which actually relates to the current

tragic crisis relating to health and

the economy the worst in a hundred years

the one thing we

surely have learned in this pandemic is

that we are not as safe as we thought we

were

most of us believe that we put in place

government structures

that would protect us we were wrong we

were wrong

we were assuming that the past is a good

predictor of the future

we were wrong we now know we need to

look at the future

with different eyes and put new systems

in place

we are now ready for change in a way

that we were not before

we have a window of opportunity to break

through

that inertia indeed we’ve seen that we

can make changes that are pretty radical

such as

working at home and and staying in and

we’ve also learned

for example through the black lives

matter movement we’ve learned that

actually incremental change nice as it

is

will not solve the problem so we have

this window of opportunity

that we must seize in the next two years

the world economy

will have about 20 trillion dollars

pumped into it by the world’s

governments

it is very very important that that

money be spent on tomorrow’s economy

not the past we know that investing for

example in energy efficiency will create

more and better jobs than investing in

fossil fuels

we know that investing in nature-based

solutions will lead to better jobs and a

better economy

and a better society than investing in

more roads and bridges and pouring

a lot of concrete we have lots of

evidence on this it’s

really important that we skate to where

the puck will be not where the puck

is now so these are two very exciting

possibilities

to promote system-wide change but let’s

remember

finally that when we talk about system

change and we need it

we are actually part of that system we

are a key part of it

let me give you an example why are we

losing

the tropical forests in southeast asia

in borneo

and in malaysia two words palm oil

and who is it that’s consuming all this

palm oil

two words we are we are palm oil is a

wonderful commodity it’s in

half of all the products in all of the

supermarkets in the united states

you and i have probably used it three or

four times uh today already

nothing wrong with the product of palm

oil but there is a lot wrong

with how it’s produced where it comes

from and how it’s planted

after cutting down tropical forests

we can change that by demanding change

think about the consumption of food

think about the beef we eat

each unit of nutrition of beef

will use 20 times as much land 20 times

as much water and will emit 20 times as

much greenhouse gases

as the same amount of nutrition from

plant-based

food we can change it we can

be part of this remarkable change this

decade

we’ll see disruptive change i guarantee

it

but it could be bad disruptive change

really bad

or it could open up an entirely new way

and you and i have a fantastically

exciting adventure ahead of us we have

instruments at our disposal

we have our votes we have our

consumption patterns

we have our charitable giving we have

our conversations

we have the lobbying that we do we have

the choice of career we make

we have our lives that can really

influence

change so the trick is don’t be scared

by what’s going on although it is scary

rather fix our eye on the horizon to

where we want to go to

what is the world we want and then be

part of it

so there were two i started with a story

about animals i’ll finish with one but

this one

may not be true so there were two

butterfly

larvae sitting on a log having a good

time

and after a while a beautiful colorful

butterfly

fluttered by and one of the larvae

looked up

and then he looked to his friend and he

said you’re not going to get me going up

in one of those things

so the point of the story is don’t be a

larvae

know who you are know who you want to be

also don’t be a wildebeest

identify the change we want and then be

that very change

thank you very much indeed

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你见过

200 万只角马

在塞伦盖蒂全速奔跑吗?它

每年都会发生

,这是世界上最伟大的自然

奇观

之一 在

马赛马拉的一部分

,角马需要穿过马拉

河,它不是一条宽阔的河流,但里面

有很多饥饿的鳄鱼

当我们看到成千上万

的角马从悬崖上跳下

穿过河道时,我们非常坦率地惊恐地看着 岩石

丢失 孩子 一些骨折

恐慌 混乱 一些非常快乐和

肥胖的鳄鱼 我 13 岁的女儿

夏洛特提醒我们,就在早些时候

,我们看到

其他角马在河流下游一英里处有条不紊地穿过同一条河流

,没有悬崖,避免

鳄鱼

,她说很好,为什么这群人

会把自己置于如此

危险的境地,所以我实际上问了一些专家

,他们说很好,实际上我们不

认识贝斯 我们能想出的

是,这就是他们数十代以来一直这样做的方式

他们

一直在

翻越悬崖

这就是我们一直这样做的方式,这

让我开始思考

也许这就是

我们经营世界经济和

经营

社会的方式 为什么我们要

经营一个如此不公平

、如此脆弱、如此污染的经济

我们不需要,

但我们总是有

为什么我们要设计我们的城市

汽车

而不是人 为什么我们

每年花费 2 万亿美元

补贴化石燃料的使用

为什么我们只回收

我们使用的 9% 的东西 为什么世界上最富有的

30 人

最贫穷的 30 亿人拥有更多的财富 世界

为什么华尔街这位 25 岁的股票经纪人的

收入是 50

岁的

老师的数倍,这位老师毕生

致力于教育贫困儿童

Kers做他们

所做的事情,因为我们总是这样

做,

我们就像我们就像是野蛮的野兽一样,

现在你可以这么做,我们需要

改变,

我们只能继续这样做

我们所做的方式 一代又

一代 不幸的是 不是因为

就像角马一样 我们

来到了悬崖 你见过

大火 干旱 飓风 冰

融化

你见过他们年复一年地

变得

更糟 你知道吗

历史上最热的 20 年中有

19 年发生在本世纪的前 19 年

就开采量而言,经济现在

我们生产的东西的数量

是 100 年前的 20 倍

,如果世界经济保持增长,

并且说经济学家告诉我们的每年 3%

是完全

合理的

本世纪还将再增加 20 倍,

因此难怪

人类

足迹的巨大增长难怪我们正在破坏

我们

在全新世期间享受了 10000 年的平衡,

我们

现在不得不 将名称改为人类世,

因为人类有史以来第一次

可以改变地球

本身,这就是为什么我们正在

以自然速度的一千倍的速度失去物种,这就是为什么

到 2025 年将有 25 亿人缺水

,这就是 为什么我们

在我有生之年就面临气候变化的生存危机

温室气体排放量

增加了

六倍那么我们需要做好哪些工作

科学家告诉我们

,我们需要在 2020 年代将碳排放量减少

一半,然后到

2030 年代再减半,2040 年代再减半

不仅在我们的能源系统中,而且

在我们的农业和食品系统的城市规划中,在

我们的交通运输

中,甚至在

我们的消费

中,都需要在全系统范围内进行彻底的变革

渐进式变革

渐进主义根本行不通 我们现在需要

相当彻底的变革 有时当

您与管理大师交谈时,

他们喜欢谈论破坏性变革的必要性

我总是觉得令人费解 我不

知道为什么变革需要具有破坏性

为什么我们不能只做

一些麻烦更少的改变,

我们需要颠覆性改变的原因是

因为一个

叫做路径依赖的

概念,它是社会科学和经济学中的一个概念

,基本上

它说我们在一条道路上并且 我们知道

这条路径实际上不是最好的路径

我们知道还有另一条更好的路径,

但我们无法从

其中一条

路径中逐步从当前路径到未来

路径 原因是

我们在

目前的道路上投入了太多资金 我们有实物

投资

我们有社会投资 我们有

经济

投资 我们有很多既得利益

所以只有这样我们才能得到 更好的

道路

是通过

颠覆性变革,这就是为什么我们需要

它考虑例如

在美国的交通我们

每年花费 90 亿小时

堵在交通中这偷走了人们的

时间

从他们的家人身上带走了它

降低了生产力

它增加了污染 它

每年导致数以万计的人过早死亡,

并因其

对气候变化的毒性影响

而伤害

后代 高效无碳公共

交通系统

如果我们这样做,我们将只需要

现有道路的一半

我们将拥有更多的绿色空间 公园 我们

可以骑自行车 我们可以

步行

我们会有更健康的人 更清洁的空气

更多的

生产力 我们会解决气候变化的问题

但它会不会花费更多

不知道它需要

一些我们没有的东西

它需要中央政府和市政府的一定程度的合作

行动

它需要

科技公司之间的联盟 能源

公司

运输公司 它

需要公民支持并

真正推动 为了它

并成为其中的一部分,它甚至需要

国际合作,这很

困难

,对于运输来说是

正确的,对于许多其他事情

也是如此 我们需要经历的革命 我们需要

到 2030 年实现碳中和建筑 我们

需要从 从今天

的浪费经济到明天的

循环经济,在所有这些

领域,我们都

需要拼图的

碎片 团结起来,这样我们就会产生

颠覆性的变化,

但我知道你在说什么,你在

说这肯定

是不可能的,十年来这种规模的变化是

不可能的,你可能是对的,

这需要一定程度的集体

行动和国际

合作 在当今

不合作的世界中不存在仅以

当前的

大流行为例,仍然

存在需要克服的既得利益,

但让我建议实际上有

两个

真正希望的领域可以使这

十年成为朝着正确方向的决定性十年 首先

是经济学,你可能会觉得很无聊,

但你不应该,因为它是如此

有趣和重要

,大概 20 年前

,经济学界真的

相信对

气候变化和自然采取行动

以及解决贫困和 依此类推,但这

会花费很多钱

,而且可能会导致我们失去工作,并且会降低我们的

生产力,

降低竞争力,

所以政客们 远离我们现在

知道这实际上是上个世纪的经济学

今天我们知道例如智能

气候政策将带来更高的

经济效率

它将推动新技术并

降低风险无论

是小农还是大公司的风险

并将这三件事结合起来

,带来经济活力 更多

竞争力

更多就业机会和更好

的生活质量

一百年来最糟糕的经济

我们

在这场大流行中肯定学到的一件事是

我们并不像我们认为的那样安全 我们

大多数人相信我们建立

了可以保护我们的政府结构 我们错了

错了

我们假设过去可以很好地

预测未来

我们错了 我们现在知道我们需要

以不同的眼光看待未来 睁大眼睛并建立新系统

我们现在已经准备好以一种我们之前没有的方式进行改变

我们有机会打破

这种惯性确实我们已经看到我们

可以做出非常激进的改变,

比如

工作 在家和待在家里,

我们还

通过黑人生命

问题运动了解到,

实际上渐进式改变

并不能解决问题,

因此我们必须抓住这个机会之窗 未来

两年,世界各国政府

将向世界经济注入约 20 万亿美元

,将这些资金用于未来经济非常重要,而

不是过去我们知道,

例如投资于能源效率将创造

更多更好的就业机会

我们知道,与投资于化石燃料相比,投资于基于自然的

解决方案将带来更好的工作、

更好的经济

和更美好的社会,而不是投资于

更多的道路和桥梁 ges 和

浇注大量混凝土 我们有很多

证据

表明我们

滑到冰球所在的地方而不是现在冰球所在的地方非常重要,

所以这是

促进全系统变革的两个非常令人兴奋的可能性,但最后让我们

记住 当我们谈论系统

变化并且我们需要它时,

我们实际上是该系统的一部分,我们

是其中的关键部分,

让我举个例子,为什么我们

在婆罗洲

和马来西亚失去了东南亚的热带森林两个词棕榈油

和 谁在消耗所有这些

棕榈油

两个词我们是我们是棕榈油是一种

很棒的商品它

占美国所有超市所有产品的一半

你和我可能已经使用它三到

四次呃今天

棕榈油的产品已经没有问题

,但它

的生产方式以及砍伐热带森林后的种植方式存在很多问题,

我们可以通过要求改变来改变这一点

关于食物的消费

想想我们吃的牛肉

每单位营养的牛肉

将使用 20 倍的土地

20 倍的水 排放

的温室气体

是相同数量的

植物性

食物营养的 20 倍 可以改变它 我们

可以在这十年中成为这一显着变化的一部分

我保证会看到颠覆性的变化

但它可能是糟糕的颠覆性变化,

非常糟糕,

或者它可能开辟一条全新的道路

,你和我将有一个非常

激动人心的冒险 我们有

工具可以使用

我们有投票 我们有我们的

消费模式

我们有我们的慈善捐赠 我们有

我们的对话

我们有游说 我们所做的我们

有选择的职业

我们有我们的生活可以真正

影响

改变 所以诀窍是不要

被正在发生的事情吓到,尽管它很可怕,

而是将我们的眼睛注视在地平线上

,我们想要去的

地方是我们想要的世界,然后成为

它的一部分,

所以那里 是两个,我从一个关于动物的故事开始,

我会以一个结束,

但这一个

可能不是真的,所以有两只

蝴蝶

幼虫坐在一根圆木上玩得很开心

,过了一会儿,一只美丽的五颜六色的

蝴蝶

飞过,其中一只 幼虫

抬起头

,然后看着他的朋友,他

说你不会让我

参与其中的一件事情,

所以故事的重点是不要成为

幼虫,

知道你是谁,知道你想成为谁

也不要做角马

找出我们想要的改变 然后

就是那个改变

真的非常感谢你

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